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I'm writing this for two reasons:

  1. There haven't been too many blogs on what an actual immigration plan should or shouldn't look like.
  1. "OMG Arizona NOOOOOOOOO" sounds a lot like the GOP in reference to the HIS bill: lots of "no", not much of "here's a better plan."

So here goes. Rough draft obviously since I have neither the time nor will to write it in legalese. Emphasis on "practical" and "reasonable", while upholding the rule of law; less emphasis on "Fair", "feelings", "emotions", "yeah but that makes me feel sorry and bad", and "punitive punishment".

2010 Immigration & Naturalization plan for the United States of America.


  1. To more concisely A. enforce border and immigration integrity and security, and B. deal with the millions of undocumented & illegally-entered immigrants in the US.


1. Central Computer system
Described below.

2. OASIS border stations.

OASIS border/immigration stations will be set up at one border location in each state along the southern border with Mexico (Texas will have 2), and one each constructed in New York, Florida, northern California, and Michigan. Temporary locations will be set up across the 50 states for 1 year after plan is enacted.

OASIS border/immigration complexes will exist for the purpose of evaluating immigration status, sponsorship, electronic guest cards, and medical evaluation of potential immigrants.

3. International money-transfer tax

All forms of money transfer by a non-citizen currently residing in the US will be subject to a 5% tax upon transfer (excludes gambling winnings).

Immigration & Guest-Working

The immigration and guest-worker system will be completely revamped, including a central computer system that tracks all incoming & outgoing non-citizens via an electronic card that must be carried at all times while traveling in the US. The electronic card will act as both ID and driving privilege, and each state will endorse driving privileges as they see fit, and provided funding by the Federal Government in order to upgrade and connect their DMV's to the central system.

 A. Those wishing to live & work in the United States will have their applications processed electronically. Those potential immigrants with verifiable skills which are on the "most-desired" list compiled by the Labor Dept/US Chamber of Commerce/Commerce Dept. will be fast-tracked and will be eligible to receive green-card status within 2 weeks; those merely wishing to emigrate into the US must wait 3 months and show adequate assets in order to support themselves and dependents for a period of at least 6 months, UNLESS sponsored by an employer in the US who will vouch for the need of their labor.

 B. Green cards shall be renewable, and must be renewed, each year, and proof of employment (not having expired more than 2 months prior to renewal date) shall be required in order for the green card to be renewed.

 C. Citizenship will be available after at least 5 years of solid green-card work history and clean criminal background, provided the existing requirements are also met (those not superceded or eliminated by this plan). Those non-citizens serving in the US military will be eligible after 2 years of service and shall be fast-tracked, provided they are not dishonorably discharged prior to the application being approved. Green-card status may not be maintained for more than 8 consecutive years, regardless of employment or sponsorship.

 D. Those individuals who are not citizens and are not employed in the US, but are legally married to a US citizen, shall be granted expedited green-card guest status. Should the marriage dissolve or the spouse decease, spouse must return to an OASIS center within 6 months with verification of employment, UNLESS he/she is responsible for children of the deceased & immigrant, in which case permanent green-card status will be provided until the children reach the age of 18.


  A. All undocumented immigrants currently living in the US, that entered the US as a minor and have lived in the US for at least 5 years, shall be fast-tracked for green-card status, provided they are at least 18 years of age and can provide proof of current or recent employment. All undocumented under the age of 18 but currently residing for 5 years or more in the US shall retain the status of their parents and/or guardians. If no guardians exist and the underage undocumented immigrant wishes to remain in the US, they will be placed in foster care.

 B. All adult undocumented immigrants currently residing in the US and wishing to remain must report to an OASIS station within 6 months of the plan's enactment and must provide:

  1. Proof of employment or recent employment (2 months)
  1. $500 illegal entry fine
  1. submission to physical and blood test
  1. clean background check conducted instantly by the center

Failure to submit any of the above requirements can lead to detainment and deportation.

 C. Elderly undocumented immigrants must be sponsored and vouched for by a current citizen or card-holder in order to remain in the US. $500 illegal entry fine still applies.


Besides the regulations above, employers will be subject to a severe fine and possible confiscation of business license and assets for not dutifully verifying the citizenship status of its employees.

DMV's of the respective states MAY NOT issue drivers' licenses or non-driving ID's to anyone who is unable to verify citizenship or guest status.

Only life-saving, emergency care will be provided at hospitals and healthcare centers when no ID or guest-card is present on the patient and no family or friends can provide verification of status.


Issues with the above plan:

  1. It's not perfect, but no plan of any type concerning any issue is; there are always loopholes, corruption, and cheating that occur. My plan does not assume to be the first plan ever that won't be subject to cheating.
  1. We all forget ID sometimes (or have it stolen or destroyed or whatever). Cops may do as they wish if we get pulled over or detained without proper ID, just as they can do now within their legal duty.
  1. Obviously all undocumented (especially those who don't meet the requirements to remain) won't come to the centers for their cards, but hopefully the enforcement on the businesses, healthcare centers and ID's will be sufficient for most of them to not remain.
  1. 10 million undocumented x $500 = $5,000,000,000 for the debt weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Originally posted to Liberaltarianish on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 09:22 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (2+ / 0-)
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    Dr Teeth, erush1345

    On the wheel of ideology, the cogs of communism and fascism are close. -1, -1.59

    by Liberaltarianish on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 09:22:30 AM PDT

    •  Obviously, to even consider this... (1+ / 0-)
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      Deep Texan

      you'd have to have a functional, non-racist ICE.

      Which we don't.  So maybe put that as STEP ZERO.

      Also, the idea of using health care as an immigration lever is unacceptable, morally, to me.  That's just not up for debate in my head.  I'm the other way... regardless of whether you paid for it or whatever, you should get health care by virtue of being a human... i.e. I think it's a human right.  That's why single-payer is the only real way to address it in my opinion, so obviously this approach is just beyond the pale in my eyes.

      But you are right... any 'plan' will piss large sections of people off.  If you treat undocumented people as if they were people, then apparently the entire world will just pick up and move here - our only defense is to treat them as animals... if you listen to the right-wing (or your plan here).  If you treat them as animals, then people with actual human decency will be upset.

      Personally, I know that the whole world doesn't want to live here... in fact most "illegals" don;t want to live here, which would imply that maybe addressing the underlying dynamic across the border(s) is the most effective approach, even if it doesn't satisfy the urge to humiliate those you deem the wrong people.

      Bit of a pickle, really.

      •  ICE? (2+ / 0-)
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        teknofyl, erush1345

        Also, would you favor hospitals notifying immigration of an undocumented patient, if you wouldn't deny preventative/non-emergency care?

        On the wheel of ideology, the cogs of communism and fascism are close. -1, -1.59

        by Liberaltarianish on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:13:17 AM PDT

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        •  ICE = Immigration and Customs Enforcement (2+ / 0-)
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          mariachi mama, Deep Texan

          No... I don't think that you should make getting health care difficult for immigrants a part of the immigration plan.  Basically... what you are saying is that undocumented immigrants should have that status be a barrier to obtaining health care (I'm not quibbling over whether it should happen before or after they get care).

          This sets up a situation where someone doesn't seek care based on the potential ramifications.

          Again, I get your point and it's not a new approach.  For me... it comes down to the idea that health care is not a proper lever to use as part of your immigration enforcement.

          Having navigated the immigration system on behalf of my wife, I can tell you that you don't have to mess up to become 'illegal.'  We filed everything, paid everything, and did everything asked of us... one of immigration's letters was lost in the mail, and BOOM! you are illegal and there remedy takes years and thousands of dollars to play itself out; in the meantime... you are an illegal immigrant.

          In a way I'm on the other side of the enforcement first people... make the laws clear, make it so that people can follow them, give them remedies and options and basically make the system fair... then people will follow the law.  As it is right now, you almost CAN'T follow the law... because when ICE fucks up, it's YOUR fault.

          Illegal immigrants aren't illegal because they want to be.  They are illegal because the immigration system is so broken and dysfunctional that it take a miracle to get through it unscathed.

          •  healthcare is a security issue (1+ / 0-)
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            why are ppl not getting this?

            everybody in america should have healthcare.

            everybody in america should have an id.

          •  Agreed with almost everything. (1+ / 0-)
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            I would hope that the plan I put forth makes it easy for legal status to be achieved and do it all at the center, kinda like the DMV.

            I hear you on healthcare. Right now I lean toward making life unlivable for those not following the new plan, but I hear you.

            On the wheel of ideology, the cogs of communism and fascism are close. -1, -1.59

            by Liberaltarianish on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:54:15 AM PDT

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            •  Well once you have reform, it's not so crazy. (0+ / 0-)

              But I think that you'd have to get some real reform.

              As I look at it, the VISA/Residency process should be straightforward and biased on the side of an assumption of good faith, similar to a driver's license.

              What I mean is this: if you want a DL, you can get one in almost all cases.  If you can't, chances are you fucked up inside that system already, e.g. drunk driving or hit-and-run.  You are basically presumed to be eligible for DL until you do something to mess that up.

              I'd like to see a system where we aren't screening immigrants through the immigration as much as we are controlling it through tax policy... i.e. make it so that damn near anyone can get a work permit or ID or whatever, the expect people to fucking have one.  Then... if you think that there is too much immigration, you can work it through tax policy.  This would require a couple of things... a national ID for everyone and a willingness to accept that non-resident immigrants can (and should) be handled differently by employers and the government(not in terms of working conditions, but in terms of hiring, wages, tax rates, etc.  Not better or worse, per se, but differently... where you would perhaps have work permit holders paying a different tax rate or businesses given tax penalties/credits for being on one side or the other of a threshold (say percentage of workers with a work permit as opposed to residency or citizenship) deemed to be desirable by policy-makers.

              I guess where I'm going with this is that immigration policy should be regularized and simplified, with the control on the number of people done more through economic policy rather than trying to make an individual determination every time.

      •  I also will emphasize that my plan (1+ / 0-)
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        assumes competent implementation, and that I don't favor any aspect of my plan independent of the other's designed to work together.

        On the wheel of ideology, the cogs of communism and fascism are close. -1, -1.59

        by Liberaltarianish on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:56:14 AM PDT

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      •  I could agree if "honesty" (0+ / 0-)

        ... was a required component, but until attention is paid to human "responsibility" when human "rights" issues are raised, I never feel satisfied with the proposed solution.

        What is the moral difference between an illegal immigrant and a note-passing unarmed bank robber?  They're both only in search of an easier life.

  •  Good job, but here is the thing (1+ / 0-)
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    Deep Texan

    There is no shortage of immigration reform bills.  Even worse they all basically say the same thing.  Like the health care bill, the bi-partisan discussion have taken place for over a decade now.  The problem isn't a lack of a plan.

    See the Republican base doesn't want any bill that doesn't result in getting rid of all the brown people.  So Republican politicians can't sign on to what they know is the best option.

    Now some Democrats don't want to seem soft on the brown people either.  Their constituents might just remember that they aren't too fond of the brown people either (see 2008 Democratic Primary).

    So politicians try to do what politicians do best (ignoring brown people altogether).

  •  That is fucked up (5+ / 0-)

    Only life-saving, emergency care will be provided at hospitals and healthcare centers when no ID or guest-card is present on the patient and no family or friends can provide verification of status.

    So basically, you'd use hospitals as immigration enforcement locations, and effectively force undocumented workers to forgo health care, harming them, their families, and the larger population (since if a significant subgroup goes untreated, diseases have a much easier time spreading).

  •  We can have any immigration system (1+ / 0-)
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    that you want, I really don't care. More legal immigration, fine. Less, fine. More guest workers, fine. Fewer, fine. More high-tech workers, great. Less, great. I don't care.

    But it won't amount to a hill of beans unless it's enforced!!!

    You have to get functional control over the border, the workplace and deport all people who are in the criminal justice system or who have deportation orders against them. Once you do that, then I trust that Congress can come up with a fair policy for legal immigration.

    •  Not sure what you mean by "functional" (1+ / 0-)
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      Obviously we can't build a huge fence, damage the environment, and start shooting people.

      We're going to have people cheat and come in illegally...I think the trick is to keep them from being able to function very well once they're here.

      On the wheel of ideology, the cogs of communism and fascism are close. -1, -1.59

      by Liberaltarianish on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 09:52:29 AM PDT

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      •  I think anyone who takes an honest look (2+ / 0-)
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        denise b, erush1345

        knows that it should be a combination of different things. The border can be physically reinforced. It happened in California, and that's why all the attention is on Arizona right now -- because it worked. You also have to deal harshly with employers who hire illegal immigrants. That is the magnet that pulls people across. You also have to integrate federal, state and local policing on immigration issues. There's no excuse for releasing illegal immigrants from our jails and prisons back onto the streets, where they can and have committed more crimes. We had a case in LA last year where a known illegal immigrant was released back onto the street and within two days had killed a local 17 year old football star.

        If you do those three things, you will eliminate the vast majority of the problem.

        •  they dig holes (1+ / 0-)
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          any solution you come up with, they will find a way around.

          we can't secure our borders, air and seas.  not possible.  sure we can make an effort but we need to focus our efforts on addressing the root of the problem.

          building a fence keeps them here as much as it keeps them out.

    •  if you want better control of the border (3+ / 0-)

      the solution is to channel people through efficient checkpoints and a clear, simple, cheap and open registration system, with quotas that match demand close enough that people don't just give up on the system entirely.

      you can channel a river to where you want it to be, but just damming it will eventually either break the dam or else divert the flow somewhere else, beyond your control. make too small a channel, and the same will happen.

      if you don't like the flow of the river, you need to work on what's pushing and pulling it, you can't just say NO and get mad when it keeps flowing. deporting people doesn't stop the problem; if it did, immigration levels would have gone down in the zeroes instead of up.

      surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

      by wu ming on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:11:39 AM PDT

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    •  You would be deporting a lot of US citizens. (0+ / 0-)

      ...and deport all people who are in the criminal justice system ...

      Do you really want to go there?

  •  We need to something, I'm not sure what yet. (1+ / 0-)
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    One good thing President Bush did, this was not a new idea it's a tradition that goes back at least to the Civil War:
    "Service During Hostilities : By Executive Order Number 13269, dated July 3, 2002, President Bush declared that all those persons serving honorably in active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States at any time on or after September 11, 2001 until a date to be announced, are eligible to apply for naturalization in accordance with the service during hostilities statutory exception in Section 329 of the INA to the naturalization requirements. This means that individuals with even one day of honorable active duty service can apply for citizenship, regardless of how long they have been a resident. Note: Under this provision, individuals who apply for citizenship after discharge must present a DD Form 214, with service characterized as "Honorable," or "General." Those with other characterizations (including Entry Level Separation), are not eligible."

  •  money transfer tax= bad for business (1+ / 0-)
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    Deep Texan

    Keep in mind that lots of immigrants are engaged in international business. Your scheme is bad for international business. Also it will open up a market for 'straw money-wirers'. A US citizen will offer to wire money for an immigrant.

    Also- what's the rationale for giving greencards to minors(?) >=18, but not minors <18?</p>

    And what physical and blood test do you have in mind for the undocumented?

  •  Here's mine - 3 year plan (1+ / 0-)
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    Deep Texan

    Live here under abiding ALL laws - you get so much as a parking ticket in the 1st 5 years - you're gone.

    Not eligible for ANY benefits - we want contributing members - not parasites.

    Learn functional English.

    After three years - you become a US Citizen.

    The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

    by ctexrep on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:01:52 AM PDT

  •  provided until the children reach the age of 18? (1+ / 0-)
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    mariachi mama


    They get sent home as soon as their children turn 18?


  •  I object (1+ / 0-)
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    Deep Texan

    Immigration in the search for work or protection from abuse is human nature, survivability. Americans have no moral standing to stop immigration and punishing the immigrant is insane and will never solve the problems. Also, Americans need the labor and taxes from more immigrants, not less.

    My immigration principles:

    1. Remove legal barriers to immigration from our neighboring countries and places of unrest, and eliminate discriminatory laws against the sick and LGBT.
    1. Open the "unclosable" borders to "neighbors" coming to work.
    1. Establish legal controls over the finite number of all non-cottage non-home-based American jobs - farm, labor, blue or white collar - with regulations covering prevailing wage laws, OSHA enforcement, unions, guest worker arrangements, etc.
    1. Automatically hold employers (only) accountable for all of the environmental and employment regulations through some sort of automated system with automated, substantial fines.
    1. Uncompensated education and health care expenses for non-citizens should be paid for by the US federal gov't which should establish treaties with Canada and Mexico for compensation.
  •  This is silly. The actual U.S. immigration (0+ / 0-)

    statutes and regulations, and directly related law, comprise tens of thousands of pages.

  •  Well (1+ / 0-)
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    I have no problem with allowing those brought here as small children to stay provided that they haven't run afoul of the law.

    What I would do is also connect law enforcement into the OASIS database that you describe. That database would be similar to the ones that carry criminal records and outstanding warrants. When a police pulls a person over, along with checking those databases, they should check for immigration status. That way everyone gets checked and it's no longer "racist".

  •  Lots of good ideas, some not, but a good (0+ / 0-)

    start in a smart debate.  So, when are you running for Congress?

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