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It's beyond bad enough to see what Arizona has done and listen to the arguments, especially from certain corners of this society, justifying the Jim Crow or Nazi like ruling. Why Nazi, because it quickly comes to mind the Laws passed in Germany as to the Jews and other groups back when. Jim Crow should already be well understood in this country, unless from Texas as they seem to like re-visionist history writing.

But lets look at what's well known about the South West and the present, especially coming out of Arizona.

Obama, American guns and Mexican mayhem

The treaty in question is called the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives and Other Related Materials. Known as CIFTA for its Spanish acronym, it was adopted by the Organization of American States in 1997. All but four of its 35 members have ratified it. Bill Clinton signed the convention but did not get the Senate to bless it.

The treaty has run into fierce opposition from groups representing America’s huge army of gun owners, many of whom see CIFTA as a plot against their right, enshrined in the second amendment of the U.S. constitution, to own and bear arms. Reflecting such fears, an essay on the website of the National Rifle Association (NRA), the most powerful of the gun lobbies, terms the treaty "a blueprint for dismantling the second amendment" and part of an Obama strategy "to create the foundation for repressive and extreme gun control."

Faced with such opposition, American lawmakers are no more inclined to tangle with the NRA and other gun lobbies now than they have been in the 12 preceding years. Which really boils down to gun owners and their impact on the ballot box having more weight than national security concerns. -->-->-->

Now add to the above what is known that is going on and not only in Arizona.

Judge tosses case against Phoenix gun-shop owner

State prosecutors suffered a public setback in efforts to combat border violence Wednesday when a judge dismissed high-profile charges against a Phoenix gun dealer accused of arming Mexican cartels.

The case against George Iknadosian, owner of X-Caliber Guns, had been covered on national TV broadcasts and in stories by the New York Times and Wall Street Journal.


According to a minute entry, Gottsfield concluded that evidence against Iknadosian was not sufficient to support conviction based on a technical legal issue. Because the gun buyers all were eligible to acquire firearms, he said, their deception did not amount to a "material falsification." Consequently, Gottsfield ruled, the evidence did not show felonious conduct by Iknadosian.

Gottsfield issued a directed verdict of not guilty for Iknadosian, 47, who was charged with fraud, money-laundering and other offenses.


About 6,000 narcotics-related homicides were reported south of the border last year. Leading up to trial, Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard portrayed Iknadosian as a greedy business owner who helped fuel Mexico's bloodshed by supplying more than 700 AK-47s and other weapons to cartels.


The case was considered a landmark prosecution in part because of cooperation with Mexican authorities, who provided evidence that guns from X-Caliber were used in criminal operations south of the border.


About a dozen co-defendants pleaded guilty to felony charges before other judges. Gottsfield's ruling on Wednesday appears to question whether they committed the crimes for which they were convicted. -->-->-->

This is the key:

Because the gun buyers all were eligible to acquire firearms,

Earlier reports had him selling the guns to middlemen, U.S. citizens, who could legally buy than would quickly turn over to the cartel contacts, guns and ammunition. Earlier reports also stated when he was arrested there were boxes of guns and ammunition already to be shipped out of his shop or wherever he warehoused them.

The Drugs come North the Guns head South!

Originally posted to jimstaro on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:20 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (12+ / 0-)

    "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

    by jimstaro on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:20:10 AM PDT

  •  And yet to hear tell (7+ / 0-)

    the problems in AZ are all Obama's and Federal Governments Fault.

    I find it particularly galling to listen to this from folks in AZ. They seem to forget for year and years when the economy was good and their state was booming they turned a blind eye to the practice of hiring illegals to build and clean the houses, care for the golf courses and property that now belong to the very people cheering this bill.

    When Gov. Brewer said:

    The bill I’m about to sign into law – Senate Bill 1070 – represents another tool for our state to use as we work to solve a crisis we did not create . . .

    I thought I was going to kick in the TV.

    In the choice between changing ones mind and proving there's no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.

    by jsfox on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:33:52 AM PDT

    •  There's More (2+ / 0-)
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      testvet6778, jsfox

      Then TV's I'd like to kick!!

      They've got sooooo many issues of hypocrisy and yet many here only live in the today, the minute, including their freakin talkin heads.

      "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

      by jimstaro on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:46:27 AM PDT

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    •  Their Still Hiring (3+ / 0-)
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      Tinfoil Hat, testvet6778, jsfox

      The undocumented, CBS had a report the other day on the this along with a bill passed some three years back targeting business owners and the investigation into that was over 50% were still hiring the undocumented worker and that'll continue as it's cheap labor, much off the books so no taxes nor bennie's, so allot of pocket change!

      "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

      by jimstaro on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:56:13 AM PDT

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  •  Your last line was correct. (3+ / 0-)
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    Tinfoil Hat, jimstaro, DruidQueen

    Back in the old days, I knew pot dealers who would take guns down and just barter for the weed, no cash involved. There's another aspect now too. The cartels are now using grenades. They don't buy these at gun shows. They're getting them from the army. One of the things that we need to talk about is a corrupt Mexican government. The narco-corruption goes all the way to the top. I've taken some heat for using the term "Failed State", but a case can be made.

    •  Their Also (1+ / 0-)
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      Getting them from these gunshop owners and not only in Arizona.

      Like the reports say, the others pled out or were convicted, but he couldn't have operated, nor any others, without the knowledge of others!

      But with drugs it's a known, the suits control the trade, here and elsewhere, big business huge profits!

      "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

      by jimstaro on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 10:49:58 AM PDT

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  •  In the Peoples' Democracies, (3+ / 0-)

    everybody had to carry internal identity and travel documentation at all times (the notorious "internal passport").

    So this Law is as much Soviet as ir is Nazi.

    I get "suaviter in modo", Mr President. May we now have some "fortiter in re"?

    by tapu dali on Tue Apr 27, 2010 at 11:12:41 AM PDT

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