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by Marcel F. Williams

In the President's speech last night about the BP Gulf Coast environmental crisis and the petroleum industry, he said the following:

"I am happy to look at other ideas and approaches from either party –- as long they seriously tackle our addiction to fossil fuels. Some have suggested raising efficiency standards in our buildings like we did in our cars and trucks. Some believe we should set standards to ensure that more of our electricity comes from wind and solar power. Others wonder why the energy industry only spends a fraction of what the high-tech industry does on research and development -– and want to rapidly boost our investments in such research and development.
All of these approaches have merit, and deserve a fair hearing in the months ahead. But the one approach I will not accept is inaction."

We've already known how to convert urban and rural biowaste (garbage) into gasoline, diesel fuel, and jet fuel for decades. Such local resources could replace nearly 20% of our petroleum needs and provide jobs practically everywhere where garbage is produced (that's every city, town, and farm in America).


But biowaste conversion to liquid fuels waste 80% of its total carbon content. If you added hydrogen to the mix produced from clean electricity from nuclear and hydroelectric power plants, nearly 100% of our transportation and industrial hydrocarbon chemical needs could be met. Once we starting using fuel efficient plug-in-hybrid vehicles and fuel cells, the US could actually become a major exporter of clean carbon neutral fuels.

Obviously, we're not going to replace petroleum overnight, but we can start the transition if the President and the Congress would simply-- mandate-- that at least 10% of all gasoline, diesel fuel, and jet fuel sold in the US be derived from carbon neutral resources by 2020, 50% by 2030, and 90% by 2040. And any of these fuels sold in the US that does not reach these percentages should be slapped with a heavy carbon tax.

To me, its that simple!

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Originally posted to newpapyrus on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 08:17 PM PDT.


Is it time for the Federal govenrnment to mandate that a growing percentage of transportation fuel in the US be derived from non-petroleum carbon neutral sources?

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    •  Good Lord, Rational Thought In An Intellectual (0+ / 0-)


      Biomass is second only to hydro as a renewable energy resource.

      Solar, despite the massive expenditure of funds, remains a cipher with the usual deficit of intermittent energy.

      Certainly certain biomass energy has deficits and is perhaps even counterproductive, e.g. feed grains for fuel, cutting down rainforest to grow sugarcane for ethanol.

      But that is hardly all there is.

      I like this guy myself who needs no conversion of biomass to a liquid fuel:


      See here.

      Best,  Terry

  •  Oh cool! We can just eliminate all oil use now! (2+ / 0-)
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    DrFrankLives, william shipley

    WOOT! Happy days are here again!

    Gosh - I can't imagine why no-one ever realized this. What a bunch of fucking idiots.

    I'm gonna go eat a steak. And fuck my wife. And pray to GOD - hatemailapalooza, 052210

    by punditician on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 08:44:55 PM PDT

  •  The Military (1+ / 0-)
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    Right now, only the US military appears to be headed in that direction. But hopefully the rest of the country will follow.

  •  Your problem is.. (0+ / 0-)

    .. you live in a fantasy land where you think government is supposed to follow mandates.  Take the debt ceiling for instance... Congress just raises it as they see fit, nobody takes it seriously.

    All we need to do is simply invest worthwhile dollars into research.  Setting a mandate isn't going to get the job done, because even a village idiot can tell you the government does whatever the hell it wants to.  Rules be damned

    Also, I guess you agree with President Bush who wanted 80% of our energy to come from ourselves by 2025 or something to that degree.

    I don't drink the cool-ade.. liberal or conservative.

    by Raviohli on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 09:45:54 PM PDT

    •  Mandates (0+ / 0-)

      Again, we already know how to convert biomass into gasoline, diesel fuel, and jet fuel. The US military is already beginning to make the transition.

      And   Federal and State governments already mandate various clean  fuel additives  all of the time. Now its time to mandate that transportation fuels come from carbon neutral resources.

      A mandate requires a penalty if that mandate is not achieved. And that's why a carbon tax should be that penalty for any company that sells transportation fuels in the US and do not meet the Federal mandates.

  •  It's part of the solution. (1+ / 0-)
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    There's a lot of different ways energy can be produced efficiently, tailored to local conditions and reduce the need make new power plants.

    That should be the first step: stop building new power plants.

    Then, stop work on any 'grid based' system.

    Bring in locally produced carbon neutral or carbon zero sources to supplant existing requirements, and fine tune the technology as needed to adapt to the demand cycles. All of this technology is off the shelf. PV, thermal solar, wind, geo-thermal .. use the local bio-fuels as needed.

    Bio-fuels and synfuels are transition devices: they both add to the GHG load, but at least they can be brought in so that they replace out the dirtier and riskier petrol based carbon fuels.

    They will buy us the time we need to transition to fusion, or some other energy generation technology that is being worked on today.

  •  plastics (1+ / 0-)
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    Judgment at Nuremberg

    What are you going to make plastics from if you do not make them from oil?

    •  Plastics (0+ / 0-)

      Sounds like the Graduate:-)

      Some major plastic ingredients like formaldehyde can come from carbon neutral methanol.

      Also by adding renewable CO2, you can cut petroleum in half in manufacturing plastics.

      But bioplastics will probably be the principal source for replacing petroleum produced plastics, IMO.  

    •  There is even a magazine devoted to bioplastics (0+ / 0-)

      See here.

      I suppose (without the slightest knowledge) there are problems with bioplastics just as there are with petroleum-based plastic but we have rid ourselves of the dependence on petroleum at least.

      I have diaried plans of a start-up to substitute a solid powder for natural gas.  Of particular interest is the patent claim that plastics, and even metals, may be used as fuel.

      There are always obstacles to introduction of new technology and much will turn out to unfeasible for economic and/or technical reasons but the usual inertia of humans is the primary problem IMO.

      Best,  Terry

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