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History is a good thing to learn. If learned well there is not the need to repeat it. Not learned, history will be repeated until it is learned.

Unemployment is an insurance tax that is paid by each working American just in case they ever become unemployed. As with all insurance one hopes that they will never need to use it, however, if they ever need it, it's nice to know that it is there.

Perhaps if we all took a page from Chris Rock and called it what it really is, incaseshit. You know, in case shit happens, you have a plan B.

Unemployment is not a hand out, unemployment is not an alternative form of work, and most of all, unemployment is not the easy way out!

Since unemployment is a fund so to speak, that is paid into, (by the same folks that are now collecting from it), it is not a handout. It is an insurance or a safty net, you know, just incaseshit (happens).

Only a creative idiot (such as those Californians supported by half term governors) would think that unemployment is an alternative form of work. Most people that recieve unemployment would prefer to receive actual paychecks. Because of certain policies at many companies, many, many jobs have been outsourced to foreign countries, leaving thousands of Californians (and Americans per se) without jobs. That creative idiot from California ran such a company until she was dethroned.

To say that unemployment is the easy way out, could only be said by someone that knows very little about unemployment, save for the term and the political miles that may be garnered from such. Unemployment pays a person only a fraction of their normal salary and Americans as a whole, live well beyond their means, not under their means. This means that unemployment payments, while helpful and sometimes lifesaving, cannot even begin to cover normal expenses for those upon which the benefits befall. Thus, the hole gets bigger, unemployment merely gives the person a chance to fight back to begin to dig out of the hole. The hole does not diminish best a status quo (of being in debt) is maintained.

Maybe as a country we need to rethink how we how we value people, work, and what our ethics really are. Do we put people first or must the status quo be maintained at all costs and who are we really fooling anyway?

Originally posted to Sunny in Cali on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 02:00 PM PDT.


Do you support unemployment benefit extension? Do you feel that there should be restrictions on benefits?

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  •  Sunny, the poll is impossible for me to take. (7+ / 0-)

    I would answer yes to the first question and no to the second if I could.

    "A man of true science uses but few hard words, and those only when none other will answer his purpose..." - Melville

    by ZedMont on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 02:06:53 PM PDT

  •  I don't pay into UI in MT, employers do though nt (1+ / 0-)
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    "Go well through life"-Me (As far as I know)

    by MTmofo on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 02:07:21 PM PDT

    •  me too, I think. (in Colorado) (2+ / 0-)
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      MTmofo, HylasBrook

      Ive been wondering how it all works. There is a reason employers fight paying unemployment insurance.

      Apparently, if they have to pay for any reason, their rate that they have to pay into the fund goes up? It's not exactly insurance in the normal sense?

      It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it - George Carlin

      by OLinda on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 02:23:45 PM PDT

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    •  UI is always paid by employers..that is why they (3+ / 0-)
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      MTmofo, HylasBrook, Bluerall

      fight claims tooth and nail.

      "When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

      by lakehillsliberal on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 03:17:33 PM PDT

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      •  Back when I quit working for Wal-Mart (2+ / 0-)
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        MTmofo, HylasBrook

        for denying breaks.
        They went out of their way to claim they fired me.
        Wal-Mart is a big one for trying to block former employees getting it.
        They had no reason to fear as I was getting disability and no desire to go for UI.
        Wal-Mart games the system, including sending employees to get food stamps and other benefits.

        •  The more they have, the less they want to give. (1+ / 0-)
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          I get so disgusted at ads about big multi-national companies that talk about all the "good" they do - helping to build playground, financial little league teams, all the stuff that sells well on TV.

          They never talk about how they screw over their employees on a regular basis.

          Aud, the Deep Minded

          by HylasBrook on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 04:21:23 PM PDT

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  •  i thought we had enough evidence and support (1+ / 0-)
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    To radically address and correct the corrupt corridors of tunnel visioned inequity which have severely wounded the lives and quality of this country and its ignorant assinine fiscal, foreign, judicial, social, political and economic policies. Been waiting to see it come fast forward. But the choke down has continued, mostly unaltered, and the denials of reality are worsening the consequences. Some peope think we're shy 15 milion jobs. There's plenty of work that could + should be done. But we've generally gone boutique instead of bold. Just like 'robust' now means: weak. Centrist now means: we gave up. We like it broken. A 90 pct defense budget cut seems right. And alotta high crooks in jail. (+ RICO those assets back to the people they were stolen from.)

    support the conscience of information. Ruining lives and water for shale gas, sea oil and quick mountain coal is sick. Stop The Gasastrophe.

    by renzo capetti on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 02:28:43 PM PDT

  •  actually, employers pay unemployment insurance (1+ / 0-)
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    renzo capetti

    From CA's Employment Development Dept.

    The Unemployment Insurance Program, commonly referred to as UI, provides weekly unemployment insurance payments for workers who lose their job through no fault of their own. The UI program is funded by employers who pay taxes on wages paid to employees.


    Costs are Truly Shared by Federal and State Government
    Operating as a federal-state partnership, UC is based on federal law, but administered by the states. The UC program is unique among U.S. social insurance programs in that it is funded almost totally by either federal or state taxes paid by employers.

    Currently, employers pay federal unemployment taxes of 6.2 percent on the first $7,000 earned by each of their employees during a calendar year. These federal taxes are used to cover the costs of administering the UC programs in all states. In addition, the federal UC taxes pay one-half of the cost of extended unemployment benefits (during periods of high unemployment) and provide for a fund from which states may borrow, if necessary, to pay benefits.

    The stimulus bill extended the length of time of coverage by federal money going to the states.

    Life is full of disappointments; yes, and I am full of life. -- John Gorka

    by bubbanomics on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 02:53:28 PM PDT

  •  Here's the logic for extending UI benefits (2+ / 0-)
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    Ralph Martire: Deficit hawks wrong to nix jobless benefits extension

    Start with the cost of the extension — $40 billion. Sure, that’s a lot of money in the abstract. In context of the federal deficit, however, not so much. In fact, it’s just 3 percent of the fiscal year 2010 deficit. Compare that to the $450 billion cost this year for the Bush administration’s tax cuts, plus the interest on the federal debt incurred to finance those tax cuts and the wars. Those Bush policies are more than 11 times costlier than extending UI and account for more than 40 percent of the current deficit.

    Oh, and according to Citizens for Tax Justice, 70 percent of Bush’s tax break — or just over $200 billion in fiscal 2010 — goes to the wealthiest 20 percent of Americans. Certainly, helping everyday folks who’ve lost jobs put food on the table and sleep indoors is worth one-fifth of the welfare given to the wealthiest by Bush’s tax cuts. Moreover, the $40 billion for extending UI is a one-time, short-term cost, while the Bush tax cuts are long-term, recurring costs that drill holes in the budget every single year, are the greatest single cause of the long-term deficit and account for more of the problem than the recession and Barack Obama’s stimulus programs combined.

    It's 4AM, the phone rings. All our politicians are in bed -- with the gawd damned corporations.

    by CitizenOfEarth on Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 03:35:44 PM PDT

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