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  • Joe Scarborough really is a wanker.
  • KY-Sen: Run for your lives! Rand Paul says Hitler is coming to America because of Obama and the Democrats!

    Remember when it was beyond the pale to compare the political opposition to Hitler? But that rule only applies to Democrats. Conservatives can do it with impunity.

  • And while we're visiting with Kentucky blogger Barefoot and Progressive, he got video of Rand Paul's former campaign manager, and asked him why he didn't pull the plug on the Rachel Maddow interview which got his general election campaign off to such a horrid start.

    The answer? Because Rand Paul was looking really good and making a lot of sense. So much so, in fact, that they had to stick him in Cheney's underground undisclosed bunker for weeks as they waited for the storm to pass.

  • July marks a distressing record.

    With the deaths of three more American troops on Friday, July became the deadliest month for U.S. forces in the nine-year Afghan war.

    The killings came in a manner and location that has typified the recent increase in violence in Afghanistan. NATO officials said two of the American service members died in a roadside bombing while another was killed by a separate insurgent attack, all of them in southern Afghanistan, where the Taliban insurgency is strongest. The rudimentary bombs often made from fertilizer are a favored weapon of the Taliban and the predominant killer of U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

    The latest killings, a total of six over two days, pushed the death toll to 66 Americans, surpassing June, when 60 Americans were killed. The overall toll for NATO forces in July is still below the record reached in June, when 103 NATO troops were killed.

    What a fucking mess. Bring our troops home.

  • I want to see Hailey Barbour, Rush Limbaugh, and Bobby Jindal eat Gulf Coast seafood.

    Scientists have found signs of an oil-and-dispersant mix under the shells of tiny blue crab larvae in the Gulf of Mexico, the first clear indication that the unprecedented use of dispersants in the BP oil spill has broken up the oil into toxic droplets so tiny that they can easily enter the foodchain.

  • Mosque madness.

    And here we actually get to the nub of the problem. Joking about the exact scope of the proposed mosque exclusion zone the issue here is whether or not we should be defining Islam, as such, as an “ideolog[y] opposed to America” comparable to the ideology that powered the Soviet Union. I say “no,” Team Newt says yes. That’s both repugnant and strategically disastrous.

    And while the ADL embarrasses itself, J Street shows how the issue should be handled.

  • Atrios:

    If We Cared About The Women And Children Of The World

    It would be far better to spend $100 billion per year granting them political asylum and paying for their transport and relocation to the US than invading their countries and caressing them with our freedom bombs.

  • Rolling my eyes at the latest Fred Barnes idiocy.
  • Scientists now believe that there was no such animal as triceratops. Rather, the beloved and well-known dinosaur was the juvenile form of Torosaurus. Here's a diagram of how the triceratops/torosaur skull might've morphed over time. Note, this isn't established fact, just the latest theory from two paleontologists.

    Luckily, triceratops was named first. So if this is confirmed by peer review, and consensus builds that they're the same animal, then "torosaur" will get the axe. That'll avoid the mess we got when Brontosaur was axed because 1) it was the same animal as Apatosaurus, and 2) Apatosaurus came first.

  • Who knew Manta Rays could leap nine feet out of the water? So incredibly cool.
  • A two-fer: 1) more evidence of Republicans who lie with abandon, and don't give a shit about the fact that they're lying, and 2) more evidence that filibuster reform is long overdue.

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  •  what's on your playlist? (4+ / 0-)

    Here's mine:

  •  You're making MSNBC mgmt upset (5+ / 0-)

    Please don't diss Schmo Scarborough any more.

    /heard that idiot bloviating on NPR about how Obama should come to Florida for vacation the other day.

    •  I laughed my butt off yesterday while (1+ / 0-)
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      Chris Matthews was defending MSNBC for not bashing Shirley Sherrod during the fiasco...  He must of missed Morning Joe that early Tuesday morning with his racist cohort, Pat Buchanan, starting at 6:00 a.m. trashing her and calling her a racist and glad that she was fired by Vilsack.

      The amazing thing is that on Wed. morning, he was blaming Obama for Vilsack having fired her!  He's such a game-playing, right-wing tool and the entire crew should be upgraded with some intelligent minds instead of their clueless, beltway shtick.

      To Congress: "GO BIG" or go home

      by mjd in florida on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:42:20 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  That is one of Morning Jokes favorite memes.... (0+ / 0-)

      Jon Stewart/Kos/Olberman=Beck/Limbaugh/FOX.  The extreme right is justified by the extreme left.

      Teh mean, ignorant, crazy is justifiable if it is met with self defense.  Worked for Vilsack didn't it!  No egg on his face!

      It gets even worse for Joe when teh mean, ignorant, and crazy is met with the ridicule and contempt it justly deserves instead of people being embarrassed, uncomfortable, and looking the other way.

  •  first brontosaurus (17+ / 0-)

    now triceratops.

    and they took away one of my planets.

    where has my childhood gone?!?!

  •  that death toll in Afghanistan is pretty serious (5+ / 0-)

    but don't worry, kos.  Worrying about it is only for the Unserious people.

    /snark off

    •  Our losses are a tragedy... (0+ / 0-)

      ...but the civilian deaths in Afghanistan far outweigh our own casualties.

      That said I'm not convinced that withdrawing at this point wouldn't result in a civilian bloodbath in Afghanistan.

      What I really detest using casualty counts of our own troops as a metric for whether we should be involved in a conflict or not.

      War is violence, deadly violence, and either we're willing to make -- and inflict -- a blood sacrifice for a greater good or we're not. I mourn every death of one of our soldiers, but in the case of Afghanistan I see both a moral imperative for staying and a national security interest.

      Whether the policy of conducting the war, the attendant nation and institution-building, and the multilateral diplomacy necessary to support military operations is sufficient and on the right course is a matter for debate. But an obsession with our own casualty count only gives our enemies incentive to do further violence to our troops (and Afghan civilians as well, since the cycle of violence serves the Taliban and Al-Qaeda).

      Some people are intolerant, and I CAN'T STAND people like that. -- Tom Lehrer

      by TheCrank on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:08:33 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  When Obama increased troops on the ground (5+ / 0-)

        by 3x, and also tried to move out into the countryside, anyone who didn't forsee increased casualties was not a serious person.

        Obama's trying to win the war - as opposed to Bush, who tried to avoid admitting he'd lost while committing as few resources as possible.

        In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

        by blue aardvark on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:11:19 PM PDT

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        •  Define "win". I don't think that's been defined (1+ / 0-)
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          by our dear leader.

          "...I enjoy helping people who are vulnerable. And I enjoy crushing bastards.".Julian Assange

          by Sydserious on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:27:07 PM PDT

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          •  I agree he has not defined it clearly (0+ / 0-)

            Since there is little or no advantage, either political or military, to doing so, and the possibility of disadvantage.

            I would define "win" as the government ruling in Kabul does not include the worst elements of the Taliban for the next 10 years or so. Just weaken the Taliban enough that when the Afghan people settle their own problems those bastards aren't the winners. Part of that probably means leaning on the Pakistani intelligence service so they don't provide (much) aid to the Taliban - that was a part of the Taliban win in the 1990's.

            In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

            by blue aardvark on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:33:17 PM PDT

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          •  Winning defined (0+ / 0-)

            Osama bin Laden
            Ayman Al-Zawahiri
            Mullah Omar... all captured or killed.

            Then we can declare victory, no matter how fledgling the Afghan government might be. But if we leave without getting the men we came for, it will be an enormous defeat for the United States -- one that will have severe adverse consequences.

            •  so we've escalated to 100,000+ troops (1+ / 0-)
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              just to get 3 guys?

              I mean, I know bin Laden and Al-Zawahiri have been responsible for horrible atrocities, but why should we have to send in that many troops to get them?  And there have been hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths from our time spent there -- aren't those severe adverse consequences too?

            •  Severe Adverse Consequences? (1+ / 0-)
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              So most of my life has been spent after we left Vietnam and I really can't complain too much about the environment I grew up in (relative to the grand scheme of things) and I just have one question cause I honestly don't know...what were the "severe adverse consequences" of leaving Nam?
              Couldn't leaving the Middle East have similar side effects?  
              I'm gonna let my quote give the rest of my beef with this Big Bush (now Bama?) Blunder:

              "The wise are not wise because they make no mistakes. They are wise because they correct their mistakes as soon as they recognize them."

              by Peter Wiggin on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 02:06:41 PM PDT

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      •  it seems to me.... (3+ / 0-)
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        that what would result in a civilian bloodbath in Afghanistan is our continued occupation of it.  In fact, that's what has been the result, if the last 8+ years has been any indication -- and escalating the conflict as the President has done only ensures that the civilian toll will keep going up, in addition to the military toll.

        I also think there's a national security interest for leaving.  How many angry civilians who are now willing to vow revenge on the U.S. have we created as a result of bombing the place with unmanned drone attacks?  That's a question we should be asking.  Occupying a country for a long time tends to radicalize the people who are living there.

        •  It's possible you're right (0+ / 0-)

          but the Taliban were an incredibly vicious regime, and it's the same people behind the war now (who escaped because of our overattention on Iraq) who were responsible for this regime (and not incidentally for harboring the people responsible for 9/11).

          We made military mistakes that resulted in civilian casualties, and even one death is one too many, but our tactical doctrines have been adjusted and the toll we inflict directly has gone way down. Most of the civilian deaths are not the fault of our troops or actions at this point but retaliation and pure terrorism by the Taliban.

          I am not fond of war at all, nobody should be, but I believe it's naive to think that our leaving at present wouldn't be a gigantic disaster for the people of Afghanistan. I know our presence there causes problems, but this is not Iraq.

          Some people are intolerant, and I CAN'T STAND people like that. -- Tom Lehrer

          by TheCrank on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:18:30 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  It's funny how those who most firmly (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
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            believe in the healing power of high explosives tend to include disclaimers about not loving war in every statement they make.

            We need to stop going halfway around the world to wage war on people who don't even change out of their jammies to fight us.

            by JesseCW on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:25:19 PM PDT

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        •  No good answer (0+ / 0-)

          If we leave, we're going to have to go back in a few years. Afghanistan is a failed state.

          Unfortunately if we leave, the Taliban comes back and takes the country back into the dark ages. And kills women - lots of them.

          •  If stopping the slaughter of women (some (3+ / 0-)

            humans are worth more than others, to some people) was our priority we'd be in the Congo Basin.

            We need to stop going halfway around the world to wage war on people who don't even change out of their jammies to fight us.

            by JesseCW on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:26:12 PM PDT

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            •  Neither can we be police (0+ / 0-)

              for the entire world. I hear you. I just hate the fact that we're in this dilemma because of such bad leadership previosly. It's like Nixon inheriting Vietnam. There were no good options by '69 (yeah, we could've got out a hell of a lot faster).

          •  as Atrios wrote today: (1+ / 0-)
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            If We Cared About The Women And Children Of The World

            It would be far better to spend $100 billion per year granting them political asylum and paying for their transport and relocation to the US than invading their countries and caressing them with our freedom bombs.

            Or you could come up thousands of other ways to spend $100 billion all of which would be almost infinitely better than invading their countries and caressing them with our freedom bombs if we cared about the women and children of the world.

            So when an asshole like Rick Stengel suggests we must stay in Afghanistan otherwise more girls will be mutilated even though we're currently in Afghanistan and poor girls are still being tragically mutilated, I don't think that's the real reason he thinks we should be there.

      •  Define enemy.... (0+ / 0-)

        the problem I have with Afghanistan is that the 9/11 hijackers were mostly Saudi.  That was our supposed justification, that Afghanistan provided shelter to Bin Laden.  What Islamic fundamentalist group would not provide him shelter?  Like any Christian fundamentalist group wouldn't give shelter to a Palin, Falwell, or Bozell?

        Parading out the Afghan women with the disfigured faces is a tad bit disingenuous when we wouldn't even see the issue for the right oil pipeline.

        So, again, these people are our enemy why?  As Atrios rightly points out-we're just showing them our better ways and our better faith with our freedom bombs?

        How in the world do you exit clean and honourable from a disaster that was dirty and dishonourable at its inception?  That is where the problem lies.  To call it what it is and stop it would be a glaring admission of where it started.

    •  4 more years....according to Froomkin..... (4+ / 0-)

      There are increasingly clear signs that President Obama's vow to start withdrawing American troops less than a year from now will be fulfilled through a technicality if at all, and that the real timeline for significant troop withdrawal -- barring a change in course -- now extends at least to 2014, if not far beyond.

      One signal was Vice President Joe Biden's offhand remark to ABC News earlier this month that the promised summer withdrawal "could be as few as a couple thousand troops" although "it could be more."

      snip

      And then last week, in a nearly unnoticed development at an international conference in Kabul, world leaders including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressed  their "support for the President of Afghanistan's objective that the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) should lead and conduct military operations in all provinces by the end of 2014."

      That's right: The end of 2014.

      Four More Years of War

      "...I enjoy helping people who are vulnerable. And I enjoy crushing bastards.".Julian Assange

      by Sydserious on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:19:41 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  One soldier brought home per month for (1+ / 0-)
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        Sydserious

        94,000 months.

        Hell, fulfills the letter of the promise, and that's all that really matters.

        We need to stop going halfway around the world to wage war on people who don't even change out of their jammies to fight us.

        by JesseCW on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:27:16 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Rand didn't say *who* the Hitler-like leader is.. (3+ / 0-)
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    RichM, h bridges, blue aardvark

    ...maybe it's him!

    Some people are intolerant, and I CAN'T STAND people like that. -- Tom Lehrer

    by TheCrank on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:02:47 PM PDT

    •  Social instability can lead to dictatorship (3+ / 0-)
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      That much is correct.

      What he fails to acknowledge is that income inequality is 10,000 more likely to lead to social instability than a government deficit.

      There is a thing that happens when the rich get too rich, and the poor, too poor

      Supposed Chinese proverb per Pearl S. Buck, The Good Earth

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:12:41 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Not sayin Rand Paul is batshit crazy, mind you (0+ / 0-)

      or jerks off to black jackboot fantasies at night.
      Im just musing out loud in a pseudo-intellectual stream of consciousness monotone.

  •  little known fact (5+ / 0-)

    triceratops, and other dinosaurs did not go extinct in the usual sense. They just evolved into birds.

    The Senate: "...trying to squeeze sixty honest votes from a group that has not, at any point in the last half century, held sixty honest senators." -Hunter

    by OLinda on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:03:02 PM PDT

  •  Once... (4+ / 0-)
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    On a boat tour in Puerta Vallarta, I say a Manta Ray breech.  Even the locals who worked on the boat where blown away.

    Irony: Apparently, the teabaggers would have apologized to the East India Trading Company for dumping their tea into the Boston Harbor.

    by RichM on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:03:27 PM PDT

    •  sailing catamarans in Fla (5+ / 0-)

      I 'flew' the windward hull, and myself trapezed on the side of said hull, over what I thought was a shipping container end, or sheet of plywood, or wooden pallet that was floating just below the water....as I passed over it I saw it was a huge Manta Ray..and more than one!

      i  saw them breech just before sunset....
      Crikey!

      Does this rec make my head look fat?

      by KenBee on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:10:19 PM PDT

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    •  I stayed at a villa in Puerta Vallarta in 2008 (1+ / 0-)
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      Right on the Bay, but built into the cliffside, so the veranda was at least 100' up from the water's edge.  Every morning I would listen to the SLAP of the manta rays as they breached and then hit the water again.

      The rays weren't anywhere near the water's edge, but out in the main body of the Bay, and we could hear the slap clearly.  Like a gunshot, each one.

      Sigh.  I'll never have that opportunity again, but the villa was the most amazing vacation of my life, and I will be pining over the seafood as long as I live.

      "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression." -Thomas Paine

      by sierrak9s on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 01:03:47 PM PDT

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  •  McCain: Count me out of "reform" talk. (6+ / 0-)

    When the prospects for a reform bill turned bleak earlier this year, immigration advocates told themselves to be patient. John McCain would be back, just as soon as he fended off a conservative primary challenge in Arizona next month. But now, the onetime champion of comprehensive immigration reform appears nowhere near ready to rejoin Democrats in the fight… Not a chance, McCain said, when asked about the expectations of immigration advocates that he might once again take up the cause. Link

    Funny how things changed from your position just a few years ago. Wouldn't have anything to do with that guy in the WH would it? Or that crazy primary challenge from the far right? Stick to your principles there Senator.

    stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

    by Mother Mags on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:03:42 PM PDT

    •  John McCain a sad case (6+ / 0-)

      I used to think he was independent. Now I think he just holds a grudge against whoever kept him from becoming President. Once it was GWB, now it is BHO.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:14:30 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  From about the mid-80s to the mid-90s (7+ / 0-)

        I had a fair amount of contact with his office. We didn't agree on a lot of stuff, but I grudgingly respected him in some areas. Like Goldwater, he fancied himself a defender of AZ's environment and Native peoples. And he didn't have much good to say about the religious right. That all went out the door in that South Carolina primary where Rove's lie took him out. A sad case indeed.

        stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

        by Mother Mags on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:23:08 PM PDT

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      •  I'm thinking it was Palin who cost him a (0+ / 0-)

        close race, but here she is out and about endorsing all those Reel Amerikans.

        Another one bites the dust...

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

        Sarah Palin Endorses Rita Meyer For Wyoming Governor

        CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) ― Sarah Palin has endorsed Wyoming gubernatorial candidate Rita Meyer in the Republican primary.

        In a Facebook posting Thursday, the former vice presidential candidate said "Meyer is ready to put her years of valuable public service to good use."

        Yes, finally putting all that valuable public service to good use, says Sister Sarah in her cattiest endorsement yet.  As she stumped for McCain, she said (paraphrased), "I think he will win this one".  

        Sister Sarah, always classy.

        If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library? Lily Tomlin

        by msmacgyver on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 01:44:55 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  if jdhayworth wins, can we see the 750,000 (4+ / 0-)

      emails that probably implicate the Interior Dept in cheating the tribes of their mineral royalty pittances?

      I'd love to see heads esplode when our taxes have a 2% add to pay the tribes..finally.

      and good god, I think he may even be more detestable than Scarborough...but at least he doesn't have his own show...yet.

      Does this rec make my head look fat?

      by KenBee on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:16:34 PM PDT

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  •  Glenn Beck's Yearbook Pics 1981 & 1982 (3+ / 0-)
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    HuffPo Comments worth the click :)

    If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library? Lily Tomlin

    by msmacgyver on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:04:04 PM PDT

  •  Joe Scarborough really is a wanker: not Breaking (2+ / 0-)
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    he is the epitome of weasel speak, a more disingenuous shit bag would be hard to find...unless the Newt is nearby, or the ghostly wisp of Ronald Reagan drifts by.

    Ah, the daily hate-a-thon, love it...so many to choose from, so few pixels.

    Does this rec make my head look fat?

    by KenBee on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:04:15 PM PDT

  •  For $34.95 per year... (10+ / 0-)

    a Reagan.com email address can be yours.

    Please note that there's no guarantee it'll remember which emails you've sent or read.

  •  Advanced notice (5+ / 0-)

    I'm working on a fun diary for tonight called Friday Evening Photo Blogging: High Bridge History Edition.

    Many New York photos and the history of pure clean NYC drinking water.

  •  does Joe Scarborough drive 2 1/2 hours at 4 am (1+ / 0-)
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    to catch shitty little 3 foot waves??!!

    I think not!

    How would Faux & Foxes cover this story?

    by surfdog on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:04:56 PM PDT

    •  Ugh! (0+ / 0-)

      I understand dedication, surfdog, but jeesh!  Where are you surfing that the waves are such crap but you can't move any closer?

      (I used to boogie board every day, year-round, at Pacific Beach in San Diego.  I've never worn a wetsuit in my life.  So I do understand dedication.  :))

      "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression." -Thomas Paine

      by sierrak9s on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 01:08:53 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  President Obama deserves much more... (10+ / 0-)

    credit than he is getting for propping-up the Auto Industry... all that did was save 1.1 million jobs!

    "I'll be damned if I let Mitt Romney take credit for all of the good things we've started." President Obama, as reported by Jonathan Alter

    by BarackStarObama on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:05:18 PM PDT

  •  And as the Pakistani's Think........ (7+ / 0-)

    Poll: Majority of Pakistanis View US as Enemy

    A new opinion poll indicates that roughly six in 10 Pakistanis view the United States as an enemy, oppose the war in Afghanistan and are becoming less concerned about the threat of the Taliban and al-Qaida.

    The survey, released by the U.S.-based Pew Research Center this week, shows that despite intense U.S. outreach and billions of dollars in aid, Pakistanis remain extremely skeptical of Washington's intentions.

    Negative image

    America's overall image remains very negative in Pakistan, says the center's president Andrew Kohut. Continued

    Gee I wonder why, and the rest of not only that region.....................!!

    "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

    by jimstaro on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:06:34 PM PDT

    •  we're never going to get past this (1+ / 0-)
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      "The serious concerns that Pakistanis have about the United States co-exist with, and are related to, the deep worries that Pakistanis have about India. In fact, Pakistanis are more worried about the external threat of India than they are worried about the internal threat of extremist groups,"

      The Indian-Pakistani animosity is generations old, and the US isn't going to kick India to the curb for better relations with Pakistan anytime soon.

      I want to join this political party - where is it?

      by h bridges on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:15:08 PM PDT

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  •  I love Atrios' idea (6+ / 0-)

    Bring the Afghan women and children here. We owe it to them for f***ing up their nation, now let's give them refuge if they want it. I can see the headlines:

    "Women leave Afghanistan in droves; men beg mercy, vow reforms"
    ;-)

  •  the adl has more than embarrassed itself (6+ / 0-)

    greg sargent:

    On this one, you're either with the bigots or you're against them. And ADL has in effect sided with them.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:06:51 PM PDT

  •  Brit Iraq War Inquiry: "doubts about intelligence (5+ / 0-)

    And all along we thought the bush was hired as the president, as history will even record, wink, wink! They chose the right stooge to be the face of and to take their hits for the rest of time!

    "former US vice-president Dick Cheney believed Iraq was "unfinished business" and was determined to press ahead with the invasion come what may. "You can't convince him of anything," Prescott said of Cheney."

    Lord Prescott admits intelligence doubts prior to Iraq war

    Lord Prescott arrives at the QE2 conference centre in London to give evidence to the Iraq Inquiry. Photograph: Lewis Whyld/PA

    30 July 2010 Former deputy PM tells Chilcot inquiry he dismissed some intelligence about Iraq threat as 'tittle-tattle'

    Lord Prescott today said he had doubts about the intelligence on Saddam Hussein's weapons programmes before the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

    Giving evidence to the Chilcot inquiry, the former deputy prime minister dismissed some intelligence about the Iraq threat as "tittle-tattle", said the former attorney general was "not a happy bunny" in the run-up to war and acknowledged that it was easy to blame the French when negotiations at the UN collapsed before the invasion.

    In a colourful session, during which he was twice asked by the inquiry panel to slow down so they could keep up with his evidence, Prescott told the inquiry he believed the war was legal but described tensions between the US and Britain over the approach to take in relation to the UN.

    He said the former US vice-president Dick Cheney believed Iraq was "unfinished business" and was determined to press ahead with the invasion come what may. "You can't convince him of anything," Prescott said of Cheney. Continued

    UK's Iraq inquiry may recall witnesses

    30 July 2010 Britain's Iraq inquiry says it may recall witnesses to offer new testimony — which could see ex-Prime Minister Tony Blair return to face the panel.

    Inquiry chairman John Chilcot said the government commissioned study had heard from about 140 witnesses over the last year. Continued

    Iraq inquiry: Chilcot committee to visit Iraq

    30 July 2010 The committee conducting the official UK Iraq war inquiry has said it intends to visit Iraq later this year.

    Chairman Sir John Chilcot said he wanted to hear "Iraqi perspectives" and see first-hand the "consequences" of UK involvement in the 2003 war. Continued

    "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

    by jimstaro on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:07:04 PM PDT

  •  66 dead Americans, huh? (7+ / 0-)

    And how many thousand dead Afghans? The kill ratio of around 140 civilians to 1 target is worse than the height of Nixon's carpet bombing of Cambodia.

  •  Spanish arrest warrants for US soldiers (4+ / 0-)

    A Spanish judge re-issued international arrest warrants on Thursday for three US soldiers over the death of a Spanish TV cameraman in Iraq seven years ago by American tank fire.

    National Court judge Santiago Pedraz's move followed a decision by Spain's Supreme Court earlier this month to reopen an inquiry into the death of Jose Couso during the shelling by US forces of a Baghdad hotel in April 2003.

    The tank fire also killed a Reuters cameraman, Ukrainian-born Taras Protsyuk.

    Snip

    In 2006 Spain's National Court, which handles crimes against humanity and genocide, threw out an initial enquiry into the killing of Couso, saying it was an act of war and not premeditated.

    The Supreme Court overruled this at the family's request and reopened the case, with a judge arguing the soldiers knew that the Palestine Hotel and the area where it was located, was occupied by civilians. Continued

    Going after the wrong people, the soldiers and not the leaders!

    "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

    by jimstaro on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:07:21 PM PDT

  •  Re: I want to see Hailey Barbour, Rush Limbaugh, (6+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    cinsch, marina, panicbean, KenBee, jds1978, opoponax

    and Bobby Jindal eat Gulf Coast seafood. Like The Simpsons episode where Marge presents the mutant three-eyed fish Blinky for Mr. Burns to eat. Priceless--and probably the same reaction as Mr. Burns.

    "Offence's gilded hand may shove by justice,
    And oft 'tis seen the wicked prize itself
    Buys out the law"
    Hamlet, Act III (Claudius)

    by dewtx on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:07:35 PM PDT

  •  Webb: Responds to Agent Orange Letter (4+ / 0-)
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    lirtydies, marina, panicbean, KenBee

    Senator James Webb Responds to Agent Orange Letter

    29 July 2010 Senator Webb, We Want You on our Side!
    But the Agent Orange Science is Clear.........

    What follows is the written reply to a brother Veteran from U.S. Veteran Senator James Webb regarding his (the senator’s) stall tactics as it relates to the additional three presumptives on Agent Orange exposure.   More rhetoric like a good US Senator, has this guy has forgotten his Veteran roots?

    I urge all Veterans to do the same as our brother has done and write to Senator Webb. We must get this guy back on our side. Continued

    "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

    by jimstaro on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:07:50 PM PDT

  •  No! They can't take away Triceratops! (5+ / 0-)

    That's been my fave since I was a kid! First the Brontosaurus, then Pluto, now this???

  •  Forget filibuster reform (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    KenBee, jds1978

    It's just an excuse for not doing what needs to be done.

    Which is destroying the current incarnation Republican Party off the face of the earth. We can't function as a society and continue to treat people like Jeff Sessions as responsible adults.

    We either need a reformed GOP, or we need a new party that serves the function of responsible, honest conservatism. These guys serve no purpose.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:09:02 PM PDT

  •  Last repost--Obama seeking arms sales easements (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    KenBee, JesseCW, BarackStarObama

    Obama seeks to expand arms exports by trimming approval process    

    WASHINGTON -- The United States is currently the world biggest weapons supplier -- holding 30 per cent of the market -- but the Obama administration has begun modifying export control regulations in hopes of enlarging the U.S. market share, according to U.S. officials.

    The administration's stated reason for the changes is to simplify the sale of weapons to U.S. allies, but potential spinoffs include generating business for the U.S. defense industry, creating jobs and contributing to Obama's drive to double U.S. exports by 2015.

  •  BP Says Time For 'Scaleback' Of Cleanup Efforts (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    KenBee

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Gulf Oil Spill: BP Says Time For 'Scaleback' Of Cleanup Efforts

    BILOXI, Miss. — BP's incoming CEO said Friday that it's time for a "scaleback" of the massive effort to clean up the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, but stressed the commitment to make things right is the same as ever.

    Tens of thousands of people – many of them idled fishermen – have been involved in the cleanup, but more than two weeks after the leak was stopped there is relatively little oil on the surface, leaving less work for oil skimmers to do.

    Bob Dudley, who heads BP's oil spill recovery and will take over as CEO in October, said it's "not too soon for a scaleback" in the cleanup, and in areas where there is no oil, "you probably don't need to see people in hazmat suits on the beach."

    He added, however, that there is "no pullback" in BP's commitment to clean up the spill. Dudley was in Biloxi to announce that former Federal Emergency Management Agency chief James Lee Witt will be supporting BP's Gulf restoration work.

    We Destroyed this Village in order to save it from the Viet Cong er um Taliban

    by JML9999 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:10:33 PM PDT

  •  Hmmm... ADL (Anti-Defamation League) or right (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JesseCW

    wing organization?

    "The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting." -- Milan Kundera

    by LV Pol Girl on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:12:03 PM PDT

    •  Depends. National Organization, or 90% of (1+ / 0-)
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      the local chapters?

      The National Organization, under Foxman, has gone a long way toward becoming what the group was founded to fight.

      Many of the Regional Offices are run by people who have a much better handle on the original mission.

      We need to stop going halfway around the world to wage war on people who don't even change out of their jammies to fight us.

      by JesseCW on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:45:01 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Thanks for that Jesse. I am just so sad about (0+ / 0-)

        this. It is like the ADL is giving cover the the right-wing hate destroying this country.

        "The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting." -- Milan Kundera

        by LV Pol Girl on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:54:04 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Another contrator overcharges the govt. (4+ / 0-)
    allegedly -
    "The U.S. Department of Justice filed a lawsuit Thursday alleging that Oracle Corp. defrauded the government in a software deal that involved hundreds of millions of dollars."

     http://www.sfgate.com/...

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:12:34 PM PDT

  •  I welcome Hitler with open arms. (0+ / 0-)

    After all, Hitler's dead and thus less likely to do any real harm than the average Congresscritter.

    Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

    by dinotrac on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:12:46 PM PDT

  •  The latest oxymoron (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JML9999

    "Christian punk rock band"

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:13:49 PM PDT

  •  Andy Griffith starring in new ad promoting (3+ / 0-)
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    MTmofo, JML9999, angry marmot

    healthcare law. Expect this to be the next "scandal", that the administration spent money on ad.

    link.

  •  Like Clockwork Newt wants to blow stuff up (4+ / 0-)
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    Angie in WA State, marina, KenBee, MTmofo

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Newt Gingrich Suggests Attacking Rest Of 'Axis Of Evil' (VIDEO)

    Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich twice called on the United States to attack North Korea and Iran Thursday because the United States has only attacked "one out of three" of so-called "Axis of Evil" members by invading Iraq. He also claimed that Muslims are trying to install Sharia law on America and said that the "War on Terror" should have been a war on "radical Islamists" instead.

    Speaking at an American Enterprise Institute event yesterday, Gingrich compared not following through on President George W. Bush's "Axis of Evil" agenda with not fully engaging the Axis power in World War II.

    "If Franklin Roosevelt had done that in '41, either the Japanese or the Germans would have won," Gingrich said, adding that Americans should "over-match the problem."

    IIRC:Newt's PHD thesis was on the Dark Ages or some equally useless topic in this context

    We Destroyed this Village in order to save it from the Viet Cong er um Taliban

    by JML9999 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:14:31 PM PDT

  •  You know kos, I'd really like to hear (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    panicbean, jds1978

    your opinion on Obama's latest "let's read everybody's email and arrest whistle-blowers" shit sandwich. At this point, the fact that Scarborough and Fred Barnes are wankers is yesterday's news. I would really like to see you asking some tough questions, instead of the old, tired "republicans suck" shtick.

  •  the thing about oil is, if you can't see it, (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    panicbean, Krush

    it's not doing any harm.  Just like CO2.

  •  I was totally shocked at the ADM annoucement. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    esquimaux

    I'm shocked that the ADM would condone such blatant anti-Islamic rhetoric.  If we're painting with the brush of "anything done in your religion's name tars the whole religion" then I suppose all Christians are guilty for the crusades, all Pagans are guilty for any Roman atrocities (up to Constantine), and all Jews are guilty of the atrocities in the OT (ex: the entire book of Joshua).

    I guess it's OK to be anti-Islamic, as long as you're not anti-Semitic.

    When is this ridiculous crap going to end?

  •  Oh man, this times a million. (3+ / 0-)
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    cinsch, panicbean, Eryk

    What a fucking mess. Bring our troops home.

    For a long time, I hoped that we could find SOME WAY to  gain some sort of ... not "victory", but at least some kind of honorable conclusion to it, you know?  One that didn't leave the lingering feeling that EVERYONE who's died over there died for no reason.

    I have since given up on that.  The only thing to do now is to come up with a VIABLE exit strategy AND GET THE FUCK OUT.  Period.

    America's military went to war. America went to the mall.

    by talismanlangley on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:23:03 PM PDT

  •  Penalty for pot brownies doubled. (4+ / 0-)
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    panicbean, chigh, JesseCW, BarackStarObama

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...

    The Senate voted to pass by unanimous consent (that it, without a roll call vote) S. 258, known colloquially as the Saving Kids From Dangerous Drugs Act of 2010, introduced by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and co-sponsored by Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) and Charles Grassley (R-IA). While the bill is intended to keep drug dealers from cutting their product with sweets in order to make them more marketable to children, it applies to any drug mixed with with something that modifies its flavor -- as making pot brownies does -- if the person making the brownies "intends" to give it to someone under 18.

    "Go well through life"-Me (As far as I know)

    by MTmofo on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:23:55 PM PDT

  •  i can't take the fog anymore (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    panicbean

    nosunshineonthebay all July...

  •  Flying fish (0+ / 0-)

    I once saw a school hover over the water at a peaceful Mexican cove.  They made the sound of a breeze blowing over the surface.  It was one of the most beautiful things that I've ever seen.

    •  I remember cruising (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      cinsch, pontechango

      in the Indian Ocean.  In the wee small hours of the morning, when  all was so dark the phosphorescent trail of the ship was nearly as bright as the multitude of stars, I could see and hear flying fish skittering along the surface, fleeing from some unseen predator...

      And braining themselves on the steel hull of the 1200 foot aircraft carrier in their way.

      Scenic, but not very bright.

      My life is an open book, and I want a rewrite!

      by trumpeter on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:31:45 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Who Was That Barnburning Speaker in Detroit Today (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    panicbean

    at the auto company?

    And why can't we have one of those when we're fighting for policy?

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:26:16 PM PDT

  •  True! (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    cinsch

    "The ecclesiastical robe and the banner of human liberty have been and always will be eternally and naturally at war." --Thomas Jefferson

    Oh, okay, he never really said that, but who gives a fuck? Just circulate it. When your right-wing correspondents say it's a bogus quote, tell them to stop distorting history.  You know, the whole low-IQ two-step. I'm tired of fighting fair.

    Make up your own!

  •  Fred Barnes is just miffed (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    panicbean

    because he doesn't get a special shirt, or golf clubs, or even a membership card.  Now those would be proof he's a real member of the 'Good Old Boy's Club"!

    My life is an open book, and I want a rewrite!

    by trumpeter on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:26:46 PM PDT

  •  Saving Afgahn women (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Krush, JesseCW

    from the tyranny of the Taliban by killing them.
    Since 2001.

    Jerry Brown for CA_GOV 2010

    by GlowNZ on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:31:08 PM PDT

  •  Say it ain't so about Triceratops! (0+ / 0-)

    That was one of my favorite dinosaurs when I was little! Noooo!!

  •  OK, I don't get this (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    cinsch, panicbean, Eryk, GlowNZ

    There was a bear attack this week, someone sadly got killed. Now I'm reading that they captured the mother and her cubs involved in the attack, and they're going to put the mother bear down and send the cubs to a zoo.

    Uhhh....WHY? The bears didn't go on a murderous rampage. THEY'RE FUCKING BEARS! If you go into the woods, which is a grizzly bear's territory, no fucking shit it might attack you. It didn't do anything wrong, it did what bears do.

    I'm no PETA-type, there's nothing I love more than a big juicy steak, but to kill a bear and send the cubs to live in captivity for their whole life, because the bear did what bears do, seems utterly ridculous.

    Proud Socialist Fuckstick

    by yg17 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:44:15 PM PDT

  •  Most of us don't have dead interns... (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    cinsch, panicbean, JesseCW

    found in our offices.

    So, no, I'm nothing like Joe Scarborough.

  •  a local right-wing pundit ate seafood... (0+ / 0-)

    ...and bragged about it in the paper last week.  Oddly, he went over to the Alabama coast to do it, even though we're in Mississippi.  I'm not sure what his point was, because for weeks he's been screaming about the disasterous oil spill and how Obama's "ignoring people who know how to fix it" (like Mike Huckabee, who suggests hay and prayer).  But, I guess FOX News changed their tune and now say it's nothing to worry about or something, because he went on and on about all the seafood he ate.  Which, o' course, could've been trucked in from anywhere.  I know a UPS guy and see frozen shipments from Hawaii to local restaurants all the time.  

    But, anyway, if this local pundit comes down with something toxic, it wouldn't be any sort of tragedy.  He's one seriously miserable specimen...

    "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

    by Front Toward Enemy on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 01:26:01 PM PDT

  •  Just for the heck of it... (0+ / 0-)

  •  Re: Manta Rays flying (0+ / 0-)

    I never knew they could do this either, and I've spent 2 weeks per year at Panama City Beach. That said, I saw rays flying for the first time this summer, at Panama City Beach. I'm not so sure this is a good thing--it may be a sign of distress. I hope not.

    "Zen: Infinite respect for all things past; infinite service to all things present; infinite responsibility for all things future."--Huston Smith

    by Maggie Pax on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 01:38:45 PM PDT

  •  momma grizzley attacks campers (0+ / 0-)
    did you hear that news? first reports are that after dna tests they might have to put down her and her cubs (because they were taught "bad behavior"). now reports say the cubs might be spared.

    hey palin: nice roll model. what a joke her zoo of characters: momma grizzly, pit bull, pink elephants.... what next? stay tuned...

  •  Apparently, (0+ / 0-)

    even Temecula, California is too close to Ground Zero:

    http://www.myvalleynews.com/...

    Referenced protest was supposed to begin an hour and a half ago.  Hope it was a dud.

    Hope and Change: get on the train or get off the tracks.

    by ozoozol on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 01:56:51 PM PDT

  •  Islamazation rant by Pat Condell (0+ / 0-)

    We got a forwarded email containing a link to this rant.  First -- I doubt that the woman who forwarded it knows that (as far as I can tell) Mr. Condell is an atheist who rails against all formal religions.

    I listened to a few minutes and then, I could stand no more.  While I think building an Islamic Center two blocks from Ground Zero is perhaps ill-advised, the anti-Islam garbage this guy was spewing was downright offensive, and (IMO) very dangerous in this time of super-charged rhetoric.

    I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this and would care to comment...

  •  Anne Rice ditches Christianity (0+ / 0-)

    She still follows Christ, but she's fed-up with the religion.

    The "Interview with a Vampire" author, who wrote a book about her spirituality titled "Called Out of Darkness: A Spiritual Confession" in 2008, said Wednesday that she refuses to be "anti-gay," "anti-feminist," "anti-science" and "anti-Democrat."

    Rice wrote, "For those who care, and I understand if you don't: Today I quit being a Christian ... It's simply impossible for me to ‘belong’ to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group. For ten years, I've tried. I've failed. I'm an outsider. My conscience will allow nothing else."

    Other than that, she still believes in the magical friendly ghost... but, if she's away from the evils of the relgion the right-wing has corrupted, that part shouldn't be a problem.

    "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

    by Front Toward Enemy on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 02:12:47 PM PDT

  •  Yea, For the rest of their lives. (0+ / 0-)

    I want to see Hailey Barbour, Rush Limbaugh, and Bobby Jindal eat Gulf Coast seafood.

    We are all Fish in the Gulf..and.. I back the "Corporations Ain't People Act"

    by olo on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 02:48:40 PM PDT

  •  Barbour,Limbaugh,and Jindal (0+ / 0-)

    It's do as I say not do as I do.

  •  Support the Troops: Bring them Home Now! (0+ / 0-)

    Youth lives by personality, age lives by calculation. -- Aristotle

    by not2plato on Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 04:57:15 PM PDT

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