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Follow up to the stories written about Selma City Council President Cecil Williamson Attending the Birthday Celebration/Rally Honoring KKK Founder Nathan Bedford Forrest.

Williamson, "former member" of hate group League of the South, speaking at the event

The South and its heritage is the only thing restraining the liberals, multiculturalists and the politically correct from completely eradicating the values and principles upon which this nation was founded," Williamson wrote in a 2000 essay titled "The Real Reason Our Heritage Is Attacked."

Let it be said that a picture speaks 1,000 words once again and in this case we should say more. Interesting that the Selma Times Journal would not publish these pictures. They did however allow Williamson the opportunity to pontificate on his neo-Confederacy views in this YouTube video which we posted yesterday

Williamson said of the celebration

It's a good time had by all . . . it's free but we do accept contributions because we want to build a confederate park . . .

Williamson also said about the racist characterization picture of the child eating the watermelon

"It's a 1922 art deco piece. I"m not offended by it. History is what it is . . . "

If the Selma Times Journal was engaged in real journalism they would have written this story in one article. They would have posted pictures for the world to see. Instead, we had to engage in alternative journalism to write the rest of the story. Had the pictures been published along with some of the other information, the people themselves would have been able to make their own decision.

Originally posted to alpolitics on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 11:45 AM PDT.


Is the picture of the black child and watermelon offensive?

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  •  history is what it is? (11+ / 0-)

    how do you even respond to that?

    I'm again looking for that signature line that says it all. Any ideas?

    by alpolitics on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 11:47:37 AM PDT

  •  Looks pretty sparsely attended to me. (5+ / 0-)

    I'll spare you my "it's a big country" disquisition.

  •  tipped and rec'd (3+ / 0-)
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    marabout40, alpolitics, grannycarol

    Thanks for sharing.

  •  I wonder how Williamson would take to (9+ / 0-)

    Jesus' General's idea: Burn The Confederate Flag Day at the 9/12 Tea Party Event.

    Probably not too kindly, but hey . . . history is what it is.

    This ain't no party. This ain't no disco. This ain't no foolin' around!

    by Snud on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 11:54:16 AM PDT

  •  This "I'm not offended by it." (1+ / 0-)
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    Shows an amazing lack of contact with logic or reality.

    "The joy of activity is the activity itself, not some arbitrary goal which, if not achieved, steals the joy." ~John "the Penguin" Bingham

    by sheddhead on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 11:58:05 AM PDT

  •  Got a problem with the poll - (3+ / 0-)
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    hooper, alpolitics, tacklelady

    yes the picture is offensive, but history is indeed what it is.  When I was a child "colored" or "negro" were polite terms.  "Picaninny" had already dropped from the standard language, but I remember my grandmother using it (I had to ask her what it meant).  "Uncle Ben" and "Aunt Jemima" were courtesies well-known enough to become national brands.

    I find it interesting but depressing that these idiots think a "return" to those days would make them all rich, powerful plantation owners.  They're "white trash" now and they would have been "white trash" then - yes they would have had more power over black folks (and women) than they do now, but they would have been dirt-grubbers on marginal lands and considerably worse off than they are now with the (vigorously denied) benefits of union-earned and federal-government mandated wage and safety laws.

    •  yeah it's not scientific (1+ / 0-)
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      by any means. good call. it spurred some discussion at least

      I'm again looking for that signature line that says it all. Any ideas?

      by alpolitics on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 12:02:02 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Discussion (as opposed to rants) (1+ / 0-)
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        is good.  Our nation was a slave-based-on-race-holding nation.  That will always cause multiple views.  But more than that, the patriarchical view of those earlier times meant that women were slaves with some minor differences in the restraints, that children were slaves until they reached their majority (whatever that age was in a given state).  You don't get two views of the past, you get dozens of them - and each of them has validity to the person holding it.

  •  When people show you who they are, (1+ / 0-)
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    believe them. At least when people are open about their hate, it's easier to fight back.

    I am all for racists and bigots acting exactly how they feel - sure beats having to tatoo them all on their foreheads.  

    (Yes, that was snark)  

    "All that's changed is that they don't wear their white hoods in public anymore. They wear white teabags instead." - DallasDoc

    by GrannyOPhilly on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 12:02:22 PM PDT

  •  History is what it is (1+ / 0-)
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    and it ain't what it ain't.  Too bad for him.

  •  My sister in Waco (0+ / 0-)

    works at a company that fabricates iron and steel. On MLK Jr. Day, the white owner brought watermelon for the whole place. On the day Obama gave his SOTU address, he lowered the flag to half staff.

    Dream, that's the thing to do (Johnny Mercer)

    by plankbob on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 12:16:52 PM PDT

  •  It could be a lot worse. . . . (1+ / 0-)
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    Eric Nelson

    First I want to add that during the Civil Rights Era many Northern Liberals were seen as a bigger obstacle than Southern bigots. Are we Liberals not prejudiced, too? Prejudiced against Southerners and Rural people?

    "Uncle" and "Aunt"
    When I was a little kid I thought that Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima were real people who owned and ran big corporations that sold their superior food products. They had the knack, I thought. Tycoons, to boot.

    I was much older when I found out about these racial stereotypes.

    History IS what history is, but my reply would be that when I was young a black nurse saved my life so I don't want to see any more negative stereotyping.

    Oh, I suppose the real answer to the man who shrugged it off.....would be to ask what Jesus said.
    Educational website, highly recommended:


       * Collect, exhibit and preserve objects and collections related to racial segregation, civil rights and anti-Black caricatures.

       * Promote the scholarly examination of historical and contemporary expressions of racism.

       * Serve as a teaching resource for Ferris State University courses which deal, directly or indirectly, with the issues of race and ethnicity.

       * Serve as an educational resource for scholars and teachers at the state, national and international levels.

       * Promote racial understanding and healing.

       * Serve as a resource for civil rights and human rights organizations.

    Media Reform Action Link

    by LNK on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 12:20:51 PM PDT

  •  Those Dip-Shits try to honor Traitors. (1+ / 0-)
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    The slaveocrats were crushed. Great!

    The Republic stands. Wonderful!

    Slavery was flushed down the shitter. Excellent!

    Greenspan admits his free market faith was "a mistake" - Reliance on self interest creates a flaw "in how the world works."

    by Otherday on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 12:26:27 PM PDT

  •  OT, Mark Twain will cheer you up (0+ / 0-)

    Mark Twain saw both sides of Southerners.

    He does a good analysis:


    . . . .by his single might checks this wave of progress, and even turns it back; sets the world in love with dreams and phantoms; with decayed and swinish forms of religion; with decayed and degraded systems of government; with the sillinesses and emptinesses, sham grandeurs, sham gauds, and sham chivalries of a brainless and worthless long-vanished society. He did measureless harm; more real and lasting harm, perhaps, than any other individual that ever wrote.
    Sir Walter had so large a hand in making Southern character, as it existed before the war, that he is in great measure responsible for the war. It seems a little harsh toward a dead man to say that we never should have had any war but for Sir Walter; and yet something of a plausible argument might, perhaps, be made in support of that wild proposition.

    Media Reform Action Link

    by LNK on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 12:29:37 PM PDT

  •  Is the picture of a black child eating watermelon (1+ / 0-)
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    ... offensive?  The art style is offensive (what, black kids can't enjoy watermelon?), definitely, but I find the term "pickaninny" more offensive and more pejorative.  The picture I can chalk up to historical art styles and point out how we've at least tried to progress beyond that.

    But there's no excuse at all for showing off anything with pejoratives terms such as "pickaninny" except in a museum meant to show the history of racism and bigotry.

    I can't imagine being proud of that kind of stuff.

    •  Really? (1+ / 0-)
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      I do see the image just as offensive than the term. Both come from a time when black children disappeared at an alarming rate and law enforcement did nothing about it. The word and the picture taught an idea that Black children were in a separate, less protected class from other kids.

      It is not best that we should all think alike; it is a difference of opinion that makes horse races. Mark Twain

      by Toon on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 02:02:39 PM PDT

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  •  Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  Read Williamsons LTE (1+ / 0-)
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    Eric Nelson

    from yesterday

    Dear editor,

    Show me any person from George Washington to Martin Luther King, Jr. that you wish to honor and I will show the imperfections in his life. "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God."

    In Selma, in January we have the Martin Luther King birthday celebration. In February, we have Black History month. In March, we have the Bridge Crossing Jubilee. In June, we have the Juneteenth celebration. In August, we have the Voting Rights Bill signing celebration. Those events are fine with me. Why then can we not have out in Dallas County a re-enactment of an old fashioned southern birthday party for one southern General?

    Each year for the past 11 years, I have attended the re-enactment of a southern birthday party to celebrate the birth date of General Forrest. The typical birthday party included music ranging from gospel to spirituals to period songs, an inspirational speech, a historic speech, a fish fry with all the trimmings and a watermelon cutting. I have attended and, the Lord willing, I intend to continue to attend re-enactments from Gettysburg to Vicksburg and from the Battle of Selma to the Forrest birthday re-enactment.

    The Forrest birthday re-enactment i sopen to the public and admission is free. It is generally attended by 200 to 300 people from across the South. Everyone is invited to attend, bring your cameras and see for yourself what it is. While admission is free, donations are accepted to be used for the construction of a Confederate Museum and Park. We in Selma are foolish is we do not empathize all of our history to bring tourist dollars to our city.

    Those who re-enact Forrest’s birthday are celebrating his gallant exploits as a military commander. As for the Ku Klux Klan, Ms. Sanders knows that Forrest did not start, found or organize the Klan. If she does not, she can read her own book on the Klan by the Southern Poverty Law Center which she recently gave to city council members and find out who started the Klan in 1865. She does know the inconvenient truth for her that Forrest was responsible for disbanding the Klan in 1869.

    Why does Ms. Sanders have an obsession with the Klan? People of Selma and Dallas County: Think for yourselves! Have you seen anyone dressed as a Klansman in Selma in the past 30 years? Have you seen a Klan rally, meeting or parade in Selma in the last three decades? To talk about the Klan and to look for Klan members in Selma is like looking for unicorns in Ireland. There aren’t any!

    I beg her and her few followers from the Colorado cult to give their energies to solving problems which actually exist here: unemployment, crime, violence, poverty, miseducation and illegitimacy. If I were to leave Selma today, these problems would be just as prevalent tomorrow. Berating, castigating and hating me for attending southern heritage events only diverts attention from the actual problems here.

    Fortunately, all people of good will, black and white, do not hate one another and want to live together peacefully in a growing Selma. Unfortunately, the 30 or so who follow Ms. Sanders have forgotten that "all have sinned and come short of God’s glory.

    Cecil Williamson


    I'm again looking for that signature line that says it all. Any ideas?

    by alpolitics on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 04:12:28 PM PDT

  •  Art Deco? Is that what this POS thinks? (1+ / 0-)
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    McCamy Taylor wrote a very good Diary with a link to disgusting, frightening lynchings.. this once happened.
    This is f**cking real.
    Human beings actually did this to other himan beings.
    When I see something like this...

    This is a link within McCamy Taylor's Diary

    This is and many more examples of how corrupted the Human soul can become.

    These are the images that are not cartoons..these are the true pictures  representing these racist scum.

    Thx alpolitics t&r'd exposing the truth

    I don't want your country back..I want my country forward - Bill Maher

    by Eric Nelson on Tue Aug 03, 2010 at 06:55:44 PM PDT

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