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I just listened to this interview and can now say what many, me included, have thought all along, not only about him but as to our own previous administration, he's certifiably crazy! I mean that in the so called World View, especially of righteousness, he just spoke. What's going on has Nothing to do with any religious ideology but does for those who want to use that as their excuse, boy do they got some splanin to do at the pearly gates. He seems to Not Understand that humans going into others countries and Destroying Them as that Kills and Maims Tens of Thousands plus and Millions of Refugees is Not going to create Rage and Hatred, not only in those countries but from others on the planet. He and like are beyond nuts, Way Beyond!!

Tony Blair On War, Globalization And 'My Political Life'

2 September 2010 - This week, Knopf will publish A Journey: My Political Life, Tony Blair's memoir.

NPR's Steve Inskeep had a conversation with the former prime minister of the United Kingdom, focusing on the war in Iraq, globalization, and Blair's political career.

Inskeep asked Blair for a "word or a sentence or a phrase" that would describe how he feels about the war in Iraq, some seven years after it began.

In the interview, as in his book, Blair chose to say that he has "a deep sense of responsibility," which prompted this exchange: {read more}

Listen to the full discussion below but it's also broken into sections of different issues at the site link above.


Originally posted to jimstaro on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:03 AM PDT.

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    •  None of our elites are accountable for their (2+ / 0-)
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      jimstaro, esquimaux

      actions in case you haven't noticed. No matter whether its in government of the corporate world.

      Just look at people like Colin Powell, or Alan Greenspan, not to mention a sociopath like Duh-bya.

      None of the Banksters lost their jobs for their costly blunders. See: Catastrophic failures in Banking ignored by dysfunctional corporate governance  

      "These old Wall Street boys are putting up an awful fight to keep the government from putting a cop on their corner." - Will Rogers

      by Lefty Coaster on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 08:36:05 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Unfortunately, the interviewer (0+ / 0-)
      Didn't ask the right question: economic opression.

      It doesn't matter how well or fair Islamics are treated in Britian, or one political or religious ideology over another, but the poverty and raping of resources over 3 centuries that has ultimatly led to radicalization and terrorism.

      But never mind; Blair would have dismissed that and dennied his country's historical role in mid-Easterna and Asian colonialism produced any such results because British people have blue jeans and freedom of speech and afternoon tea.

      Fucink bully for you, Tony.

      He's not crazy so much as a well-helled, patalogical liar.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 11:00:02 AM PDT

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  •  Britain should... (9+ / 0-)

    ...section off a piece of land just for him and call it Assholia.

    Wine is a bad thing. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor, it makes you shoot at your landlord, it makes you miss him. -- Mark Twain

    by dov12348 on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:08:30 AM PDT

  •  He isn't nuts. He's a greedy, self-serving... (13+ / 0-)

    opportunist. Frankly, I'd be less disgusted by Blair if his actions were the result of insanity, but I'm confident that he's quite sane (at least in the legal sense). He's just a lying bastard attempting to justify the war crimes he helped perpetrate.

    A liberal is a man or a woman or a child who looks forward to a better day, a more tranquil night, and a bright, infinite future. ~ Leonard Bernstein

    by AuroraDawn on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:13:44 AM PDT

    •  Blair is giving the royalties from his book (8+ / 0-)

      ..to the British Legion, some 7 million  £ or $, I forget which.

      It's said he's made $50 million in the past three years alone, perhaps even better than Bill Clinton's haul.

      Blair really is a rat-bastard of the first order. Encouraging book sales and legacy-saving (he hopes) at the same time. Cynical opportunist.

      Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

      by Scarce on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:21:48 AM PDT

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      •  How classy. Not just legacy saving... (3+ / 0-)
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        I suspect. While I doubt it will happen, Blair, unlike Bush, does live knowing that at some future date he could potentially stand trial for war crimes. If you were Blair, wouldn't you be doing everything in your power to try and bolster your legacy and reputation (in other words, to rewrite history)? At least that way, if by some miracle he ever is charged with crimes against humanity, he'd already have his narrative of events in place.

        I consider the man a malignant narcissist. I don't doubt him for one second when he claims to believe his actions were justified. Even technically sane people can justify horrendous crimes when it serves their own purposes.

        A liberal is a man or a woman or a child who looks forward to a better day, a more tranquil night, and a bright, infinite future. ~ Leonard Bernstein

        by AuroraDawn on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:30:00 AM PDT

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  •  I think many people hate Blair... (4+ / 0-)

    ...because he's a good advocate for his position and he's never going to change.  He's a preachy Wilsonian, and those people just make you pull out your hair when you don't like what they've done.  You can dismiss someone like Bush, and he'll even help you by going quietly, but Blair would probably come right into Daily Kos and do his thing if someone invited him.  

    The most impressive thing about man [...] is the fact that he has invented the concept of that which does not exist--Glenn Gould

    by Rich in PA on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:19:19 AM PDT

    •  Blair's Epitaph should read (4+ / 0-)
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      "The Ends Justifies The Means".

      Those who forget the lessons of history are probably watching Glenn Beck.

      by ontheleftcoast on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:22:38 AM PDT

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      •  I'll be Tony Blair, (2+ / 0-)
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        Partly for show but partly because I think there's something to it.  I suspect he'd come right back at you with his Christian-existentialist thing: we'd be guilty if we did nothing and Saddam Hussein spent the last seven years doing what he'd done the previous 25 years.  He'll own his guilt but he'll try to pin equal guilt on everyone else in the debate.

        The most impressive thing about man [...] is the fact that he has invented the concept of that which does not exist--Glenn Gould

        by Rich in PA on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:27:44 AM PDT

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        •  The problem was the war was sold as justifiable (5+ / 0-)

          because Saddam was the next Hitler (or pick your horrid 20th Century despot). The reality was "Baghdad Bob". Saddam wasn't a threat to rest of the world. Was he a threat to his own people? Perhaps, but today's Iraqi is arguably no better off than they were in 2000. So Tony can moralize it all he wants, it won't wash the blood off his hands.

          Those who forget the lessons of history are probably watching Glenn Beck.

          by ontheleftcoast on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:38:20 AM PDT

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    •  In many ways Blair is worse than Bush (3+ / 0-)
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      Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

      by Scarce on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:22:52 AM PDT

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      •  I think he's better than Bush... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...but I'd wager that my reasons are exactly the same as your reasons for thinking he's worse.  We're seeing (basically) the same Blair but we just weigh things differently.

        The most impressive thing about man [...] is the fact that he has invented the concept of that which does not exist--Glenn Gould

        by Rich in PA on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:24:16 AM PDT

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      •  Agreed. The argument that Blair... (4+ / 0-)

        was duped into supporting Bush, that he was some how used, has always annoyed me. Yes, he was initially lied to; but when he discovered those lies, he didn't change his position, it just didn't matter to him. He was a willing participant in the war, and by his own admission, he has no regrets. Bush is a moron. I still think he should be tried for war crimes, but he is undoubtedly a stupid man. Blair isn't. Far from it. He - like Cheney - knew damn well what they were doing, that it was criminal, and he just didn't give a damn.

        His domestic policies weren't as wretched as those of Bush/Cheney, but nothing really excuses his role in the Iraq War.

        A liberal is a man or a woman or a child who looks forward to a better day, a more tranquil night, and a bright, infinite future. ~ Leonard Bernstein

        by AuroraDawn on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:36:47 AM PDT

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    •  no (1+ / 0-)
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      There's a fundamental moral stupidity to Blair that is unbearable.

  •   (1+ / 0-)
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    Free University and Health Care for all, now. -8.88, -7.13

    by SoCalHobbit on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:19:45 AM PDT

  •  I heard part of that on the Beeb (10+ / 0-)

    Not only did he say he felt responsible but that even knowing there were no weapons of mass destruction he'd do it again. In effect, Saddam was so evil it justified millions of dead and trillions of wasted dollars. Sorry, I don't think Blair is nuts. He's twisted and wrong, but I'm not giving him an insanity defense.

    Those who forget the lessons of history are probably watching Glenn Beck.

    by ontheleftcoast on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:20:24 AM PDT

  •  I heard the interview this morning. (7+ / 0-)

    Tony Blair is given the benefit of the doubt because he has a better mastery of the English language than GW Bush and Tony Blair has an English accent.

    But make no mistake.  Blair is part of the money! Money! MONEY! cabal.  Anything and everything can be rationalized away if there is money to be had.

    Real science is rarely done by petition. --John R. Mashey

    by Naniboujou on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:22:14 AM PDT

  •  blair is the worst combination of an evangelist (7+ / 0-)
    and a greedy and manipulative political operative. And this charlatan scoundrel of first order has gotten away with it all too easily, even more easily than dubya.

    So, what did Obama do or didn't do today to piss you off ?

    by amk for obama on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:26:31 AM PDT

  •  Bush's gutless panting poodle-boy . . . (4+ / 0-)

    and a co-conspirator in a vast web of war crimes, including but not limited to 1.2 dead Iraqis . . . heckuva job, Tony, you pandering twit . . .

    "we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex" Dwight D. Eisenhower

    by bobdevo on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 06:36:32 AM PDT

  •  he lacked the guts to stand up to Bush (3+ / 0-)
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    •  I Listened (0+ / 0-)

      To his testimony before Chilcot and understandably his spin in answering questions, but these interviews are really showing what I said, He's Nuts, same as the Neo-Cons, just Plain Nuts!!

      If they think that somehow they're going to redeem themselves, in the eyes of the World, in this lifetime that's Pure Lunacy!

      "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

      by jimstaro on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 07:11:18 AM PDT

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  •  Intellectuals as to War and Militarization (2+ / 0-)
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    Intellectuals have responsibilities in times of war and militarization

    September 1, 2010 -  In a series of articles in the Harvard Crimson, published in March 2008, student muckraker Lois Beckett reviewed similar questions of responsibility and accountability, but extended them to the role of intellectuals in times of war, specifically the U.S. invasion of Iraq. As with many past U.S. wars, prominent Harvard intellectuals admittedly played a leading role in administering official support for, and justification of, the war. And there were some cases in which Harvard intellectuals uncomfortably understood the possible consequences of the war, but didn’t speak up because they didn’t want to seem unpatriotic among their peers, who shared similarly silent reservations.

    The U.S. invasion of Iraq resulted in the destruction of human life comparable in number with the Rwandan Genocide and the Cambodian killing fields based on the September 2007 outstanding report by British polling agency ORB, the Opinion Research Business. The U.S. invasion resulted in roughly 1 million violent deaths.

    Snip

    There’s one important distinction, however. Using words or phrases like "getting it wrong" or "mistake" or "misconduct" assumes that, in the U.S., we have the right to "experiment" on another country with a war whose disastrous consequences and inherent injustice are easily detectable by anyone, whether a Harvard intellectual or a local bus driver.

    True, Harvard academicians could argue ­— as in usual misconduct cases — that they didn’t intend to help cause the murder and displacement of millions of people, being directly complicit in the crimes that resulted from the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    But, as elementary legal and moral principles reflect, criminal responsibility is not judged by intention, but by the real or likely consequences of the act, or failure to act.

    And serious precedents are not far off in history within American society.

    Snip

    At the International Criminal Tribunals at Nuremberg following World War II, U.S. justices applied these very standards to intellectuals of Nazi Germany: from Julius Streicher, editor of a leading newspaper, to Wolfram Sievers of the University of Strasbourg. Both cases were judged on the basis of the defendants’ prominent cultural, political and so-called "scientific" work and ideas which, wittingly or unwittingly, supported the vicious crimes perpetuated by the Nazis. And both intellectuals were hanged for them. {read more}

    "What is the difference between an al Qaida terrorist and a misguided American terrorist?" "The planes they fly!"

    by jimstaro on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 07:44:33 AM PDT

  •  "Ghost Writer" (1+ / 0-)
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    Good movie transparently based on Tony Blair. Spoiler: he gets away with it.

  •  How many British people (0+ / 0-)
    really talk like that? Always struggling for the next five or so words? Always defensive in tone?
  •  He ran for Prime Minister, didn't he? (0+ / 0-)
    Proof.

    T+R.

    What about my Daughter's future?

    by koNko on Thu Sep 02, 2010 at 10:37:50 AM PDT

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