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The reason why Obama and the Democrats haven't communicated with the American public effectively  is because the Democrats have no talking points.

Democrats never repeat the same message over and over. We aren't a well oiled talking points machine. The points need to be simple and repeated over and over by every democrat. They can't be to detailed, people are not interested in details. Here is a list of 5 simple phrases every democrat needs to repeat every 5 min until election day.

  1. The reason why the economy is in a hole is because of DEMAND , it has nothing to do with taxes on  small businesses. The  deregulation of the financial system by the republicans has bankrupted the American private sector.
  1. Healthcare spending  is the biggest contributor to bigger deficits in the future. The reason we passed the healthcare bill was to try and lower the deficit.
  1. The stimulus was something Democrats were forced to do. The DOW was at 6000 in Nov 2008 and credit was frozen. Democrats are not a tax and spend party but a party that cares for the welfare of the country.  
  1. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and we added  trillions to the deficit  fighting the useless war in Iraq.
  1. We care about the middle class.

Originally posted to buckshot face on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 05:47 PM PDT.

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  •  Democrats do talking points all the time -- (8+ / 0-)

    the problem is that they suck at framing them.    

    "Dulled conscience, irresponsibility, and ruthless self-interest already reappear. Such symptoms of prosperity may become portents of disaster!" FDR - 1937

    by Marie on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 05:56:37 PM PDT

    •  If a Democrat expresses the party talking (1+ / 0-)
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      Marie

      points and there is no one there to hear him/her, will there be a vote?

      The true danger in politics is when people in power elevate ideological purity over their basic humanity, empathy, and common sense. -- thereisnospoon

      by alliedoc on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 06:53:55 PM PDT

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    •  they can't compete with talk radio, it's not (1+ / 0-)
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      jan4insight

      about them sucking at framing- what sucks is that dems give their local limbaugh talk radio stations a free speech free ride to attack and trash their reps and causes all day long while they turn on the music, blog and complain with little or no knowledge of what their opponent's best weapon is.

      Progressives will lose all major messaging battles until they picket the limbaugh/hannity megastations and boycott those stations' local sponsors.

      by certainot on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 07:17:09 PM PDT

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      •  Sharp, focused sound bytes (1+ / 0-)
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        laker

        that resonate as true cut through the rightwing noise pollution.  How do you think Obama won less than two years ago and Democrats gained Senate seats?

        "Dulled conscience, irresponsibility, and ruthless self-interest already reappear. Such symptoms of prosperity may become portents of disaster!" FDR - 1937

        by Marie on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 07:35:56 PM PDT

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        •  nope- name any messaging dems have succeeded (0+ / 0-)

          with that required going head to head with republicans and wasn't blown over by them.

          dems won because we got to a point of no return- it was a no brainer-  and then the same cycle started again- 1000 radio stations blasting right wing think tank framing over anything the dems do with progressives with no fucking clue of the right's most important weapon.

          the real question should be why could bush and palin have gotten anywhere near the white house, not why did dems win in 2006 and 2008.

          Progressives will lose all major messaging battles until they picket the limbaugh/hannity megastations and boycott those stations' local sponsors.

          by certainot on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 08:14:25 PM PDT

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          •  "compassionate conservative" (0+ / 0-)

            governor with a 70% approval rating.

            GWB also had the TX public education "miracle"  -- it was a fake as his ranch and WMD but believable enough because it wasn't challenged by the press.

            Palin, otoh, only skated for a couple of weeks.  "The wink" in her Gibson interview was so unacceptable that people began to wonder.  Her Couric interview finished her off.  

            "Dulled conscience, irresponsibility, and ruthless self-interest already reappear. Such symptoms of prosperity may become portents of disaster!" FDR - 1937

            by Marie on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 02:08:45 PM PDT

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  •  How about "We're One Nation Working Together" (6+ / 0-)

    For job creation

    Accessible Health Care

    To balance the needs of all.

  •  The choice this election is clear: (5+ / 0-)

    Progress or Gridlock. Those are the two choices voters have. Elect a Democratic Congress and get progress, even if it's not as fast as some would like. Elect a Republican Congress, and you're guaranteed to get nothing but gridlock for the next two years. The Republicans have virtually promised it. Progress or Gridlock.

    •  Trouble is, too many people do not perceive the (4+ / 0-)
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      Bensdad, wdrath, amk for obama, ardyess

      progress so far.  Between the right wing noise machine screaming socialism/fascism over every Obama initiative and the left wing complaints about the weak tea of reforms so far, too many Americans might vote for gridlock.

      We need to up the awareness of all of the good in the reforms achieved to date.

      Trumpet specific benefits in healthcare reform.  Tout the real protections in the Finance Reform.  Get credit for the Consumer Protection Agency now being formed.

      The public just isn't aware of these things!

      Some people fight fire with fire. Professionals use water.

      by Happy Days on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 06:29:20 PM PDT

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      •  absolutely... (2+ / 0-)
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        Bensdad, amk for obama

        ...the Democrats have not yet made clear exactly what progress has been made...and the high unemployment rate seems to be obscuring all of the other economic progress that's been made...it won't be easy...but if the Democrats can remind people about the accomplishments that they've made...no matter how incremental...and contrast that with the likelihood of gridlock with a Republican House and/or Senate...it might improve our chances.

    •  Well, if there is a democratic majority, (2+ / 0-)
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      wdrath, yellow dog in NJ

      there will be gridlock, so it's gridlock or constipation and I want neither.

      The true danger in politics is when people in power elevate ideological purity over their basic humanity, empathy, and common sense. -- thereisnospoon

      by alliedoc on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 06:54:51 PM PDT

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  •  democratic talking points: (10+ / 0-)

    either vote for me, or you can have batsh*t brained crazy deranged criminal lunatic over there...

  •  Republicans are worse. Don't hit me. (5+ / 0-)

    I'm the plowman in the valley - with my face full of mud

    by labradog on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 06:25:40 PM PDT

  •  We are practical grownups. (4+ / 0-)

    We seek and take advice from a wide range of smart people.

    We are not lunatics. We don't intentionally try to bring on the rapture.

  •  Here's one they need. (8+ / 0-)

    Don't talk.

    Do.

    And before the fucking elections is better than after them.

    It rubs the loofah on its skin or else it gets the falafel again.

    by Fishgrease on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 06:28:39 PM PDT

    •  I tip because what you state, (0+ / 0-)

      Don't talk.

      Do.

      And before the fucking elections is better than after them.

      is a call-to-arms to our elected leaders, and may our leadership (both executive and legislative branches) both hear and act upon it.

      But what bullet points do we have for voters?  I get that persuasion to vote Democrat should be positive, and not just bashing the other party as being worse.

      But I also believe that there's a difference between bashing, and holding a party to accountablility, especially when Republicans engage as a bloc to paralyze the government.  There's a key talking point within the subject of Republican obstruction, but I'm not currently glomming on it.

      I want to hold her hand and show her some beauty / before the damage is done. -- Arcade Fire

      by bsmechanic on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 06:48:38 PM PDT

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  •  At least we're not Republicans. (0+ / 0-)

    Of course we do have a few members who are conflicted about that. And yes we do need campaign contributions, and that limit our support for progressive causes, but you have to admit, the other side is worse.

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 06:46:56 PM PDT

  •  I'm a Democrat (1+ / 0-)
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    jan4insight

    My talking points are:

    Barack Obama and the Dems saved us from the Great Depression.

    They put in protections from credit card jabs.

    They are helping us with healthcare.

    They aren't hypocrites and crazy.

    Go down to your local Dem headquarters. Pick up a packet of info for Dems that live near you.  Go talk to them.  Make sure they vote. That's all you have to do.

    "Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

    by dancerat on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 06:54:22 PM PDT

  •  dems cant message over 1000 coordinated radio (3+ / 0-)
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    Bensdad, amk for obama, jan4insight

    stations- that is the problem.

    the next problem, the one that makes the first problem possible, is that dems have no fucking clue what those 1000 coordinated talking points screamers are saying until it shows up on TV- too late.

    the only thing dems can do is fix the radio problem- then dems can win on the merits. until then dems have to rely on truth and common sense and if they happen to get a good one going into the national media a red light alarm goes off in the basement of the heritage foundation and pretty soon 1000 of the largest radio stations in the country are screaming over it,  attacking the messenger and  distorting it and creating distractions.

    dems can't message shit until their rank and file fix the radio and they need to recognize that and get busy instead of blaming dem politicians who's soapbox is miniscule compared to that of limbaugh and hannity and clones.

    Progressives will lose all major messaging battles until they picket the limbaugh/hannity megastations and boycott those stations' local sponsors.

    by certainot on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 07:07:42 PM PDT

  •  poll option #3 (1+ / 0-)
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    VClib

    is that a very small pie?

    The question is not whether the chickens needed replacing, the question is whether the fox should have been guarding them in the first place.

    by happymisanthropy on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 07:14:56 PM PDT

  •  That Democrats (0+ / 0-)

    even need talking points is a fallacy.  

    But because the so-called 4th estate has set the tempo to a high motherfucking BPM ....

    I want to hold her hand and show her some beauty / before the damage is done. -- Arcade Fire

    by bsmechanic on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 08:07:56 PM PDT

  •  TPM (2+ / 0-)
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    thatwhichisgood, amk for obama

    They pledge to:

    1. Let Wall Street Gamble with your Social Security
    1. Privitize the VA and get your veterans a voucher for private care that isn't worth the paper it's written on.
    1. Continue the assault on public education so that you have only one alternative: the best private education you can afford.
    1. Take away a woman's right to choose what happens to her own body and give that right to the government.
    1. Talk about mosques and aliens when what they really care about is throwing you out of a job and outsourcing it to the lowest bidding nation. Don't like it? Call their Indian or Romanian call center.
    1. Destroy your faith in a government of the people by and for the people and replace that government with the governing board of international corporations.

    We are against that.

    British Petroleum: I think that means it's foreign oil.

    by Bensdad on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 08:08:21 PM PDT

  •  Kill the public schools. (0+ / 0-)

    Also, destroy unions.

    I saw it on Oprah.

    http://twitter.com/mikeingels

    by DingellDem on Fri Sep 24, 2010 at 08:10:22 PM PDT

  •  I actually think your #1-3 are good points (0+ / 0-)
  •  Diarrhea of the jawbone (0+ / 0-)

    (as my father used to say). Democrats are so busy triangulating and hoping to please everybody that they end up just dumping a flood of words that essentially mean nothing. They really need to hire some better PR people and get everyone on board.  

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