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This is chilling -- and it's specifically meant to be:

Federal agents searched homes of anti-war activists in Chicago and Minneapolis on Friday in an investigation of possible links with terrorist organizations in the Middle East and South America.

On Friday, the FBI raided the homes of seven anti-war activists in Chicago and Minneapolis, seizing computers, personal papers, and issuing subpeonas ordering them to appear in front of a Grand Jury on suspicion of "material support for terrorism" -- or at least that's what the FBI seems to call it when teachers and Union Stewards speak out publicly against U.S. military involvement in the Middle East and Latin America.

One can only imagine what the official reaction would be if these community activists had used hateful rhetoric and openly threatened violence against the federal government -- oh wait; that's what thousands of tea partiers do every day without having heir homes torn apart and being threatened with jail.

More on this as it develops.  These people are going to need support.

Originally posted to Skitters on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 06:44 AM PDT.

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  •  Why, what a surprise, coming from the Obama (5+ / 0-)

    administration!

    We don't need a third party. We need a second party.

    by obiterdictum on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 06:52:49 AM PDT

    •  Yes, it really gets you when you consider (3+ / 1-)
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      Cinnamon Rollover

      ...the people Obama's Justice Dept WON'T prosecute.

      They're also going after people in Cleveland area, including Democrats in Kucinich's district. These people may of may not be guilty. And I certainly support rooting out corrupt Democrats. They are a blite on the party.

      But when you think of the limited resources at Justice, and the people who are really the terrorists, frauds and crooks going unpunished, it makes one wonder what Obama's priorities are. Why exactly DID he keep all those Bush attorney generals in place - you know, the ones who were busted going after Democrats in time for an election?

      Obama's a fucking Republican trojan horse.

      •  Oh yeah (2+ / 0-)
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        By "real" terrorist frauds and crooks I meant the Bush administration, bankers, and war profiteers.

        Obama was installed to do what no Republican could do - let all these people off.

        •  Lol installed by who? N/t (1+ / 0-)
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          •  Bill Moyers (2+ / 0-)
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            ...explained this back in 1987.

            It's a bit lengthy, but hey, it's Saturday.  Sit back, relax and take a look.  

            •  I've seen that Moyers piece. Fascinating (0+ / 0-)

              But if I remember correctly, he's really talking about the national security state which operates without much oversite like a government within the government.

              That is not unrelated. But I was simply referring to the fact that big money selects our presidents for us with a combination of contributions and propaganda.

              One of the most effective propaganda techniques is called "inevitable victory". A close cousin to "bandwagon (everybody's doing it), inevitable victory has been used to convince many Democrats into thinking that their preferred candidate doesn't have a chance.

              In the 2004 Democratic primary, AOL had a fun little survey where you selct multiple choice positions on issues that most closely reflect those of your own. Overwhelmingly, Dennis Kucinich won. It wasn't even close.

              And yet, he could get his cat to vote for him because Kucinich was constantly portrayed in the media as an inevitable loser. The "inevitable victory" always went to establishment approved candidates like John Kerry.

              Howard Dean almost overcame the "inevitable victory" of Kerry media blitz until the hitjob of his so-called scream by the corporate media sank him.

              We only have the illusion of democracy in that, while we can vote for whoever we want, we really don't get to choose who runs. And even when we do get to choose, such as in a primary election, the people's preferred choice is so outspent, out-smeared, and out-casts that we end up going with the "lesser evils" candidate so as not to waste our vote.

        •  This is nutty CT (1+ / 0-)
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          Obama was "installed?"

          And you have proof of this, right?

          •  See my reply above. (3+ / 0-)

            "Installed" is somewhat hyperbolic and rhetorical. But the result is pretty much the same. More accurate would be to say he was selected. Only weeks after the 2006 mid-term elections, I observed that the two main cable news outlets CNN and MSNBC began what appeared to me to be the Obama vs. Hillary show. At the time, I didn't understand what was going on. I had mistakenly assumed that Hillary was the preferred corporatist candidate. And I saw the Obama Hillary show as merely a way to create the impression that Edwards didn't have a chance and define early that the race would be between Hillary and Obama, a woman and an African American - both historical candidacies.

            Later however, some good reporting by Harper's and The Hill revealed that Obama, despite his "no lobbyists" pledge and image, was almost secretly financed by lobbyist with ties to the financial sector.

            When I say almost secretly, I mean that The Hill had discovered lobbyists were actually concealing their support of Obama.

            The Hill pice has been scrubbed for some reason. But here's a couple of relevant excerpts:

            Obama’s K Street project
            By Alexander Bolton
            March 29, 2007

            Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is benefiting from the support of well-connected Washington lobbyists even though he has prohibited his campaign from accepting contributions from them and political action committees (PACs).

            While Obama has decried the influence of special interests in Washington, the reality is that many of the most talented and experienced political operatives in his party are lobbyists, and he needs their help.

            Mike Williams, the director of government relations at Credit Suisse Securities, said of the network of lobbyists supporting Obama: "I would imagine that it’s as large as the Clinton list," in reference to rival presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), who is an entrenched favorite of the Washington Democratic establishment.

            The article goes on to report:

            Some lobbyists who favor Obama want to stay below the radar to avoid retaliation from rivals such as Clinton, Biden, and Dodd.

            One lobbyist who has worked hard for Obama behind the scenes, according to two pro-Obama lobbyists, denied that he was in the Illinois senator’s camp when queried by The Hill. The shy lobbyist wanted to keep his allegiance secret because he represents a New York-based company and his job could be harmed if he alienated Clinton, explained a fellow Obama partisan.

            There's a lot more, including one Obama fundraiser asking if a lobbyist's wife would be wiling to contribute, but I'm treading close to copyright violations. But there's one more paragraph I have to include:

            Other K Street players working to build momentum for Obama are former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), a consultant for Alston & Bird; Broderick Johnson, president of Bryan Cave Strategies LLC; Mark Keam, the lead Democratic lobbyist at Verizon; Jimmy Williams, vice president of government affairs for the Wine & Spirits Wholesalers of America; Thomas Walls, vice president of federal public affairs at McGuireWoods Consulting; and Francis Grab, senior manager at Washington Council Ernst & Young.

            If you take the time to look them up, most of these lobbying firms "trying to build momentum for Obama", work for Wall Street clients. This is all inconclusive of course. But it is highly suggestive, especially considering the people Obama has surrounded himself with, AND the policies he has put forward. Despite the bullshit you hear about Wall Street feeling hurt by Obama, he has been extremely god for them, at the expense of the real economy of people who actually produce things, and they know it. For example, as Pulitzer prize winning reporter Chris Hedges points out:

            He worked tirelessly in the Senate in 2005 to pass a class-action "reform" bill that was part of a large lobbying effort by financial firms, which make up Obama's second-biggest single bloc of donors. The law, with the Orwellian title the Class Action Fairness Act (CAFA), would effectively shut down state courts as a venue to hear most class-action lawsuits.

            As I said in my comment above, when I say he was installed or selected, I am not making a specific allegation but merely referring to the commonly understood fact that all presidents were selected by the establishment first before being packaged and delivered to the people.

            But in light of Obama's governance, and more revelations about Obama's early Senate campaign which I don't have time to delve into here, I have come to suspect that Obama may have been Wall Street's guy all along. That his whole political career starting in 2003, when he first started toying with the idea of a Senate run, may have been sponsored, or promoted, or just encouraged by big business interests. This would not be unusual in any way. This is how most Senate campaigns begin. But it WOULD be contrary to the PR image of Obama as it has been portrayed by the media and his own campaign.

    •  It Must Be Constitutional (0+ / 0-)

      Obama is a constitutional law professor, after all.

      This aggression will not stand, man.

      by kaleidescope on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 10:41:02 AM PDT

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  •  And here we thought progressives were just (3+ / 0-)
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    fucking retards.

    We don't need a third party. We need a second party.

    by obiterdictum on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 06:53:35 AM PDT

  •  Let's give this one legs, eh? -n/t (2+ / 0-)
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  •  What I Find Most Interesting Is This Is (8+ / 0-)

    the first I've heard of this and I am kind of a news/political geek. You can be sure if these raids were on a local tea party group and not labor supporters it would be running 24/7 on Fox Noise and Drudge, which of course means in a few hours it would also be running 24/7 on MSNBC/CNN.

    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

    by webranding on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 06:57:45 AM PDT

  •  As an antiwar activist, this is chilling. (8+ / 0-)

    As a citizen, this is chilling.  Unless there's something more to the story, this is a day I didn't really think would come, but has.  And yes, it is happening on Obama's watch.  When the Bush administration took actions to weaken our liberties, many were outraged.  Now those measures are being used by a democratic administration. No excuses.  

    The Global War on Terror is a fabrication to justify imperialism.

    by BigAlinWashSt on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 07:01:19 AM PDT

  •  For more extensive coverage (4+ / 0-)

    read AntiWar.com http://AntiWar.Com

    There is nothing surprising here, and there will be nothing surprising until we find elect an administration that supports rather than opposes Civil Liberties, and that is not too cowardly to prosecute the crimes of its predecessors.

    •  Unbelievable. Yep, it's official. And it (4+ / 0-)
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      doesn't matter who you are or what you think, they can make your life as much a living hell as they do for terrorists.  
      This one really hits me hard.

      The Global War on Terror is a fabrication to justify imperialism.

      by BigAlinWashSt on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 07:12:20 AM PDT

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    •  Which leads to a question: (0+ / 0-)

      If George Bush had authorized the assassination of American citizens, announced that war crimes committed by previous Presidents would not be punished,  continued to allow torture and kidnapping, detained hundreds or thousands of people without trial, sent the FBI to raid the homes of progressive antiwar activists, wiretapped more or less every email and phone call in the United States...

      many progressives would be at least slightly annoyed.

      Those acts are just as wicked when carried out by a Democrat, as they were..

      You can fix this.  If you do not believe you can fix this, I have two words for you:

      Eugene McCarthy.

      He fixed it, and you can choose to do the same.

      Mind you, a stronger replacement candidate, relative to 2008, would be a good thing.

  •  Minneapolis raids (10+ / 0-)

    These raids are outrageous. As a Minneapolitan I can tell you that these are people who have a long and honorable history in the Twin Cities anti-war and international solidarity movements, in some cases going back to the Viet Nam war. My sense is that the activities being investigated are peaceful and no different than was common practice in the years of the anti-Viet Nam war movement and Central America solidarity committees in the 70s and 80s. It is an indication of how far down the road of government control of dissent we've have gone in the last decade. Unfortunately, I don't expect the Obama administration to do anything to halt that tendency. Perhaps our U.S. representative, Keith Ellison, will make a statement.

    •  The same can be said for the Chicago folks too (6+ / 0-)

      They are not criminals, and they are not supporting terrorism.  These are dedicated, caring community and labor activists.

      Leave the gun...Take the cannoli.

      by Skitters on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 07:24:57 AM PDT

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      •  from the article (3+ / 0-)

        neighbors saw FBI agents carrying boxes from the apartment of community activist Hatem Abudayyeh, executive director of the Arab American Action Network.

        here is the blog of the Arab American Action Network. scroll for some cool videos of 'rhythm of the streets'. here's one

        back to the article:

        Burke said he received a grand jury subpoena requesting records of payments to Abudayyeh's organization as well as two groups among the State Department's list of foreign terrorist organizations, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC).

        sooo...the Arab American Action Network is being targeted for material support for terrorism? what about people who fund the illegal settlements w/ settlers who carry out the price tag attacks? are they being targeted for material support for terrorism?

        somethings not right about this. i urge everyone to visit AAAN's blog.

        "As Israel treats Jerusalem, so shall the world treat Israel. As Jerusalem goes, so goes Israel." - B. Burston/Ha'aretz

        by zannie on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 09:58:31 AM PDT

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    •  Keith Ellison's contact info: (3+ / 0-)
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      Minneapolis Office:
      612-522-1212
      Office hours:
      8:30 AM to 6:00 PM Central Time, Monday Through Friday
      Washington Office:
      202-225-4755
      Office hours:
      8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Central Time, Monday Through Friday

      Tag, your it!

  •  Anyone can call themselves "progressives," and (3+ / 0-)
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    the progressive movement is a big tent.

    Unless the FBI is systematically raiding a significant number of anti-war organizations, it would be prudent to criticize these raids with equanimity.

    Anti-war protesting is a fundamental American freedom.  But as in most movements that push the envelope of freedom, extremists can and do emerge.

    It is one thing to vehemently oppose a war and do everything legal - and even illegal in the case of civil disobedience - to stop that war.

    But sometimes people's thinking gets warped and they step over the line, as in aiding and abetting the enemy as a means of opposing what is perceived as the "real" enemy, i.e., the warmongerers who prosecute the war on our side.

    You only have to look at extremists on the conservative side to see what I mean.
    Participating in anti-tax protests is as American as apple pie, but dive bombing an IRS building is not.

    I'm not saying these folks are extremists.  That is yet to be determined.  But I think it would be more productive to focus on the legal process through which the search warrant was issued and make sure it was issued strictly in accordance with law and that no one's constitutional rights were violated, rather than to condemn the search out of hand without knowing one way or the other whether it was justified.

    If in fact an investigation determines it was NOT justified and even worse, if it establishes a pattern of unjustified conduct, then heads should roll.  But I'm not prepared to let a Faisal Shahdad automatically escape detection by simply calling himself a "progressive."

    "If I owned hell and Texas, I'd live in hell and rent out Texas" - Union General Phillip Sheridan

    by ZedMont on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 07:21:17 AM PDT

    •  Laziness is unappealing (6+ / 0-)

      You must love to hear yourself talk.  You wrote so much and said nothing.  These are no Faisal Shahdads.  The target of this raid are people who were involved the protests at the RNC convention in 2008.

      •  You know, FreeAtLast, the only thing I like (1+ / 0-)
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        chocolate cliffs

        more than hearing myself talk is having someone I respect validate what I said.
        An irrational and prerecorded ad hominem attack, however, is almost as satisfying. Thank you.

        Your theory that protesting the RNC convention in 2008 precludes illegal activity on the part of the protestor in 2010, and guarantees that a government action in 2008 - even if it were proven to be illegal - ensures that a government action in 2010 is also illegal, without any rationale other than a conspiracy theory, is the argument I would expect from...a Teabagger birther.

        Thanks again.  Please respond to my comments often.

        "If I owned hell and Texas, I'd live in hell and rent out Texas" - Union General Phillip Sheridan

        by ZedMont on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 11:01:38 AM PDT

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        •  You're not only lazy (0+ / 0-)

          ...but assume the same of of others, well, at least me.

          The reason I gave you their past association (2008 RNC protests) is to ID the group for your lazy ass, not to justify their current practice.  That was in a hope that you would look them up and learn about who they are instead of lazily associating them with a confessed terrorist.

          I think you're hopeless.

          •  Get in line to call me hopeless. (0+ / 0-)

            I know full well who the group is.  I have no problem whatsoever with their activities within legal bounds, and like I said, even within the bounds of civil disobedience.  I agree with their anti-war stance.

            I don't know why you - or they - would be upset by arrests while protesting the RNC.  It comes with the territory and most fervent protesters wear an arrest as a badge of honor.  In fact the arrests got them media coverage they would never have gotten otherwise.  It's too bad they could not have gotten the coverage without resorting to breaking windows, slashing tires, and intimidating convention-goers, but hey, you do what you have to do, and you expect and accept the consequences.

            Now, with respect to the prima facie condemnation of the FBI in this case:  I assume you would not object if a search warrant uncovered incontrovertible evidence of an imminent terrorist plot by members - maybe even rogue members - of ANY organization.  Maybe I'm giving you too much credit in that assumption, but I'm generous.  

            Do you have any idea what is required in order to obtain a search warrant?  First, specific agents put their careers on the line by presenting an affidavit of the known facts to a federal judge.  The judicial system, not the FBI, determines whether or not the FBI will conduct a search.

            Their supervisors are eager to avoid damaging the reputation of the agency through the actions of their subordinates.  Federal agencies abhor embarrassment and it does not go well for those who cause it.

            The director of the FBI reports to the White House in a case like this, and neither the director or the president desires to embarrass themselves, and right before a critical election.

            The president is Barack Obama, not George W. Bush.  There is absolutely no political advantage to serving a search warrant on progressives who were arrested protesting the Republican convention.  In fact it doesn't take much imagination to picture everyone up and down the line looking for any excuse NOT to serve such a warrant.  There had to be compelling evidence in the affidavit to prove the reasonable cause for a search.  If you feel otherwise, what do you suppose is the motivation of the Obama administration to take part in a conspiracy against these groups?  To impress Republicans and get their votes?  Ha.

            In addition to the administrative nightmare for the agents if they lie in an affidavit, the judicial system holds SEVERE penalties in store for those who might.  For reasons including this one, you hardly ever - if ever - hear of a criminal case against an agent for lying in an affidavit.  Search warrant affidavits are, if nothing else, attested to in good faith.

            It was mentioned that photos of Martin Luther King and others were taken in the search warrant.  That information came from the group whose documents were taken, not the FBI.  That's because the FBI didn't - and may still not - realize they have them.  

            They do not go through and analyze the documents they are seizing while they are serving the warrant.  They seize entire filing cabinets, storage containers, computers, etc. etc.  It is only after those documents are inventoried that they even know for sure what's in them.

            Now, you've attacked the FBI's actions, so what do you base that on?  Did they lie in the affidavit?  What specific lies did the FBI tell the judge in the affidavit?  Well, of course, you don't know.  You have no idea why a federal judge issued a search warrant in this case.  Nor do I.

            Cheers.

            "If I owned hell and Texas, I'd live in hell and rent out Texas" - Union General Phillip Sheridan

            by ZedMont on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 08:43:59 AM PDT

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      •  I've heard of this group and I don't see how (1+ / 0-)
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        their anarchist tendencies are any differt rom what the tea party wants?

        They disregard the law to force their own belief systems on others.  They have no interest in fitting into a civil society.  They threaten violence and have been implicated in domestic terrorism.  

        •  Name one person (0+ / 0-)

          who was raided on Friday and who also claims to be an anarchist.

          Having said that, anarchists are also entitled to their ideologies.  Espousing an ideology is not tantamount to forcing one's ideology on others.  Anarchists have been around since the inception of this country.  

          I was in Minneapolis during that protest.  The only group of people who threatened and carried out violence were the riot-geared police.

    •  They're groupies of 3d World revolutionaries. (5+ / 0-)

      in the course of pu7blishing their obscu7re newspsaper, they interview the folks they write abou7t, which means talking to them, ie 'having contact.' This is not a crime. The FBI is ostensibly looking for evidence of "material support."

      Knowing several of the folks involved, this gets silly, as they barely have the resources to publish their journal, largely out of their own barely middle class salaries.

      Agricultural hemp is "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs."

      by ben masel on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 07:33:11 AM PDT

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    •  Calling "progressives" (6+ / 0-)

      When it comes to the FBI, assuming the best when they are going after progressive organization and organizers is naive. This is simply an attempt to squash contact between the U.S. anti-war movement (what's left of it) and international organizations, plain and simple. I have no doubt we are witnessing a revival of Cointelpro type actions by the government. That's when the FBI was used in the 1960s and 1970s to illegally attack civil rights and anti-war organizations.  To compare these folks with Faisal Shahdad [sic] is plain uninformed and demonstrates a lack of real knowledge about the Minneapolis progressive community.

    •  Faisal Shahdad (0+ / 0-)

      yeah, when they show up at your door i'll say it's yet to be determined if you're another tim mc veigh. i won't denounce your arrest and advise people to focus on the legal process through which the search warrant was issued and make sure it was issued strictly in accordance with law and that no one's constitutional rights were violated, rather than to condemn out of hand without knowing one way or the other whether it was justified.

      But I'm not prepared to let a mc veigh automatically escape detection simply because you call yourself "progressive."

      these are the days of pre emption. we don't need no stinking crimes to haul people in and lock them away. it's enough knowing you could blow up some fed building to label you another mc veigh.

      "As Israel treats Jerusalem, so shall the world treat Israel. As Jerusalem goes, so goes Israel." - B. Burston/Ha'aretz

      by zannie on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 10:12:51 AM PDT

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  •  J. Edgar Hoover, get back in your casket. (7+ / 0-)

    I've known Mick, Stephanie, and Joe since the mid 1980s, from actions against investment in the apartheid regime in South Africa. (We invented online politics during a series of 1985 sit-ins at mostly college buildings, tho here in Madison we squatted the State Capitol rotunda for 2 weeks.)

    They're guilty of hackneyed oldschool Marxist rhetoric, and nothing more.

    Agricultural hemp is "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs."

    by ben masel on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 07:25:54 AM PDT

  •  I've added (10+ / 0-)

    Palestine/Israel/Columbia/occupation to your tags.

    These raids were meant to silence activists opposing U.S. militarism around the globe.  Many of these folks are involved in work many of us engage on every day.  These are our people.  We must fight these scare tactics and never be silent about U.S. war crimes.

    [H]uman history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness. H. Zinn

    by soysauce on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 07:49:43 AM PDT

  •  I attended some of these rallies in St. Paul (7+ / 0-)

    Today, I am sitting here in suburban MPLS watching my front door.  I would so welcome this fight in court.  Not really watching since I am no where near that important, but I would still love that fight.

  •  Just like the last Administration, this one (4+ / 0-)
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    hates opposition and they simply will not allow it. It looks good when the right wingers have the wrath of the Feds come down on them, but it is not so satisfying when people whose politics we agree with are harassed. This is the way government works with opposition, everyone in the way gets stomped, whether left wing or right wing - all opposition is opposition to them.

    I voted with my feet. Good Bye and Good Luck America!!

    by shann on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 08:06:37 AM PDT

  •  |:-| (1+ / 0-)
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    I wasn't aware that one had to be a progressive in order to be an anti-war activist.

    In fact, I know a lot of conservatives who organize against war....

  •  I applaud (1+ / 0-)
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    the FBI's exploration into ties between so-called peace groups and terrorism.  When so-called peace groups develop ties with terrorist groups, it sets the anti-war movement back by leaps and bounds.  We should all want the anti-war movement to be completely free from associations with terrorists.

    "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided." --Barack Obama, June, 2008

    by oldskooldem on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 12:33:12 PM PDT

    •  I'll take it that you (2+ / 0-)
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      haven't had the FBI knock on your door.  I have, for no good reason.

      The targeting of Arab-American peace activists should trouble you.

      [H]uman history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness. H. Zinn

      by soysauce on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 02:48:32 PM PDT

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      •  Uh.. (0+ / 0-)

        Joe Isobaker and Stephanie Weiner are not Arab-American peace activists.  The later, and possibly the former, by last name, appears to be Jewish.  That's irrelevant to me.  What is relevant is that so-called peace activists who aid, abet and otherwise act in solidarity with terrorist groups out to be exposed and imprisoned.  I have no idea whether those raided actually fall in that category, but clearly the government thinks there is probable cause that they do.

        "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided." --Barack Obama, June, 2008

        by oldskooldem on Sat Sep 25, 2010 at 09:11:44 PM PDT

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  •  Thank you, skitters! (0+ / 0-)

    I saw a posting on this through an activist network.  I'm glad to see it get coverage here.  Shades of the Patriot Act meeting Lawfare strategies to waste the time and resources of "delegitimizers" of Israel.

    "Trolling is a sad reality of internet life...Directly replying to the content of a trollish message is usually a waste of time"

    by Rusty Pipes on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 10:11:04 AM PDT

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