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  I've long since given up being amazed at the way the traditional media has been sleepwalking through the world, channeling the 'wisdom' of the village while ignoring what's happening right in front of them.  Maybe one reason we don't see more concern from the press about the unemployment levels in this country is because those who know the most about it firsthand - are no longer working themselves. The remaining few who still have jobs are too busy getting their knickers in a twist over Colbert, what outrage Snooki is up to, and other matters of national import like birth certificates and vacations.

 But something must be happening to disturb their complacency. Could it be that seeing Republicans ousted by Republicans is leaving them dazed and confused? Could it be the Tea Party causing casualties among the guest lists at those Georgetown soirees? Could it be they are worried that this is something that might touch them personally?

  How else to explain Maureen Dowd today?

  I've lately developed the habit of keeping Dowd at a distance, much like observing blood and body fluid precautions in a medical lab. You don't want to get any on you. Still, I do occasionally peer through the safety glass to see what's on the other side. Today I had to check several times to see if I was actually reading something by Dowd.  Slouching Towards Washington reads almost like something that could have been posted at Daily Kos!  WTF ?!?!!  Here's a few clips to illustrate:

Holy Roddy McDowall.

Christine O’Donnell doesn’t understand why monkeys can’t turn into people right before her eyes.

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Sarah Palin will believe global warming is a hoax until she’s doing aerial hunting of wolves underwater. And in a 2009 clip, Sharron Angle, the Republican Senate candidate from Nevada, suggested that autism — a word she uttered with air quotes — is a phony rubric. She suggested that people are taking advantage of such maladies to get extra health benefits, adding that she doesn’t see why she should have to subsidize maternity benefits for other people either, especially since, as she said, she’s not having any more babies.

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We seem beset with spellbinding hybrids with the looks of Fox News anchors, the brains of mice and the power of changing the direction of the country.

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Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, John Boehner, Jim DeMint and some Tea Party types don’t merely yearn for the country they idealize from the 1950s. They want to go back to the 1750s.

 Of course Dowd, being a charter member of the Villagers, has to blame Obama by reflex.

President Obama was supposed to be a giant leap forward in modernity, the brainy, rational first black president leading us out of the scientific darkness of the W. years. But by letting nutters get a foothold, he may usher us into the past.

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It's not really sanity breaking out after all.

I'd guess it's more like Dowd being shocked! Shocked I tell you! to see the forces of irrationality cranked up by the Right Wing turning on her own kind, instead of merely beating up on Democrats. That's a standard response about Obama being the problem, because after all he's not really a legitimate President and he's stirred up so much trouble because he goes against the natural order of things.  Still, you know it's bad when even mean girl snark masters like Dowd start to worry about the direction the country is going in.

Even Tom Friedman is starting to get exercised.  He's noticed that some countries are not tied up in political knots for partisan advantage, and are actually taking steps to nail down the future.

China is doing moon shots. Yes, that’s plural. When I say “moon shots” I mean big, multibillion-dollar, 25-year-horizon, game-changing investments. China has at least four going now: one is building a network of ultramodern airports; another is building a web of high-speed trains connecting major cities; a third is in bioscience, where the Beijing Genomics Institute this year ordered 128 DNA sequencers — from America — giving China the largest number in the world in one institute to launch its own stem cell/genetic engineering industry; and, finally, Beijing just announced that it was providing $15 billion in seed money for the country’s leading auto and battery companies to create an electric car industry, starting in 20 pilot cities. In essence, China Inc. just named its dream team of 16-state-owned enterprises to move China off oil and into the next industrial growth engine: electric cars.

Not to worry. America today also has its own multibillion-dollar, 25-year-horizon, game-changing moon shot: fixing Afghanistan.

Friedman is actually calling for increased government spending to drive the infrastructure changes we need for the 21st century, along with tax increases to pay for them. He fails to note however that entire Republican Party is solidly opposed to anything that might accomplish the changes needed when the big money boys behind them will be perfectly happy to cut deals with China instead. (And he fails to appreciate how deep Chinese strategy runs. The electric cars he gushes about rely heavily on rare earth elements for their technology - a market the Chinese have effectively cornered.)

Finally, the New York Times joins a growing chorus taking a hard look at the "Pledge to America" and concludes "there's no 'there' there."

Americans are right to be worried and even angry about the bad economy. And they are right to demand that Washington do a lot more to revive employment now and start to reduce the deficit soon. But these are hard problems built up over eight years of mainly Republican leadership. The pledge takes the country backward — a place no one should want to go.

You know, when even generally clueless people like Dowd start to connect with what's actually happening in the real world, it's a sign of the end times. The common wisdom is that Democrats are going to be thoroughly whipped at the polls in November. What's starting to happen is a growing realization that such an event would be a real disaster for the country. Given that, those Democrats running scared out there should turn and instead get out in front of that wave and ride it for all it's worth. Thirty years of compromising, temporizing, and rationalizing are long enough. The country NEEDS what the Democrats could offer - if they dare. Is it time for sanity again?

UPDATE: Well, it was fun making the rec list for a few hours. For the record, I don't take this isolated event as a sign that sanity is returning just yet; I'm wondering how quickly Dowd will attempt to atone for her column with something in her more usual style. (I can only imagine what kind of tweets she must be getting right now.)  Friedman is still clueless, distracted by shiny things. As long as he's going to go gaga for the Chinese, he might consider saying flat out that the Republican Party is determined to make sure nothing like that will ever happen in this country.

But all that aside, it IS progress that the conversation outside of Kos is beginning to reflect Reality the least little bit. Who knows? It might eventually take root and spread...

Originally posted to xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:12 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (199+ / 0-)
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    Chico Marx: "You can't a fool a me there ain't no sanity clause"

    Tips are nice though.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:09:12 AM PDT

    •  Here's a photo of Chico ... (7+ / 0-)
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      ... saying that very thing to Charles (Emperor Ming) Middleton.

      http://theatrex.net/...

      Big Money doesn't put horses in Congress. Just the hind - quarters of horses -- Alan Grayson

      by MT Spaces on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 10:14:31 AM PDT

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    •  it's as much the fault of the left as the right (2+ / 0-)
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      the left should have spent these last two years solidifying our hold on power instead of trying to change everything all at once.  take steps forward but not so fast you distance yourself from half the country.  i think Obama has the correct balance but nobody on the left wants to follow his lead.  they want everything right now because they are tired of waiting after decades of getting nothing.  i get it.  but all the impatience has done is let us lose our grip on power in this country.  now we have to share it with morons again.  we could have just kept our shit together and decided not to rush and we would be stronger today than 2 years ago.  

      i still remember the first few months of people clammering at Obama like the doors to Macy's had just opened for the day after thanksgiving sale.  and all they did was fall all over themselves fighting over who got what first.  at the time i just kept thinking that if we didn't calm down and get our shit together we were going to let everything we had just gotten slip out of our hands.  and we did.

      the good news is that the right will get some power back but only a little and it will still be up for grabs if we can learn from this experience.  

      lesson number one: stop following people who have never actually done anything but talk. listen to people who have actually done something.  they know how to get shit done.  bloggers and book writters and pundits are full of bullshit.  the people who know how to make progress are the people who have done it for a living.  not the talkers.

      if we can learn that lesson then we will be much more productive governing.  

      •  It's not just Rule One about Holes (4+ / 0-)

        The common wisdom is,

        1. When you're in a hole, stop digging.

        The common wisdom usually omits the next step.

        1. If you don't want to stay in the hole, start working on ways to climb out.

        Rule one is a necessary step - but it's not the complete solution. Democrats have not solidified their grip on power because they tried to do too much, but because they didn't do enough. The auto industry bailout may have saved millions from losing their jobs, the stimulus program may have kept things from going completely down the drain - but we're still in a hole. Preventing bad things from happening is worthwhile, but eventually you have to have positive accomplishments to seal the deal with the voters.

        And it doesn't help when there's a full-time effort to distort, disparage, and outright lie about everything that has been done.

        "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

        by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 01:32:46 PM PDT

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    •  Unfortunately, we're paying for China's (0+ / 0-)

      infrastructure projects!

      "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - G. Marx

      by Skeptical Bastard on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 03:03:40 PM PDT

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  •  You have to aim Mo, otherwise (22+ / 0-)

    she goes off all over the place.

    I always read her stuff because every now and then it works.

    "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

    by LaFeminista on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:14:53 AM PDT

  •  Even the insane have brief moments of sanity. (35+ / 0-)

    and those moments are especially rare with Ms. Dowd.

    Sorry, she gets no credit from me.

    "We don't differentiate between 'them' and 'us.' It's just 'us.'" --- President Barack Obama

    by marabout40 on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:16:52 AM PDT

  •  Government Spending is Demonic (22+ / 0-)

    China has at least four going now: one is building a network of ultramodern airports; another is building a web of high-speed trains connecting major cities; a third is in bioscience, where the Beijing Genomics Institute this year ordered 128 DNA sequencers

    I much prefer the construction workers using the invisible hand of the market...

    Communists putting people to work...who do they think they are?  Only the private sector can create "REAL" jobs.

    "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

    by justmy2 on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:17:59 AM PDT

    •  Ouch - that tag line! (9+ / 0-)

      Makes me wonder who thought the Cat Food Commission was a good idea.

      "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

      by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:20:19 AM PDT

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      •  Cat Food Commission, according to Galbraith (13+ / 0-)

        1. Clouds over the Work of the Commission.

        Your proceedings are clouded by illegitimacy.  In this respect, there are four major issues.

        First, most of your meetings are secret, apart from two open sessions before this one, which were plainly for show.  There is no justification for secret meetings on deficit reduction.  No secrets of any kind are involved.  Nothing you say will affect financial markets.  Congress long ago -- in 1975 -- reformed its procedures to hold far more sensitive and complicated meetings, notably legislative markups, in the broad light of day.

        Secrecy breeds suspicion: first, that your discussions are at a level of discourse so low that you feel it would be embarrassing to disclose them.  Second, that some members of the commission are proceeding from fixed, predetermined agendas.  Third, that the purpose of the secrecy is to defer public discussion of cuts in Social Security and Medicare until after the 2010 elections.  You could easily dispel these suspicions by publishing video transcripts of all of your meetings on the Internet, and by holding all future meetings in public.  Please do so.

        Second, there is a question of leadership.  A bipartisan commission should approach its task in a judicious, open-minded and dispassionate way.  For this, the attitude and temperament of the leadership are critical.

        I first met Senator Simpson when we were both on Capitol Hill; at Harvard he became friends with my late parents.  He is admirably frank in his views.  But Senator Simpson has plainly shown that he lacks the temperament to do a fair and impartial job on this commission.  This is very clear from the abusive response he made recently to Alex Lawson of Social Security Works, who was asking important questions about the substance of the commission's work, as well as calling attention to the illegitimate secrecy under which you are operating.

        A general cannot speak of the President with contempt.  Likewise the leader of a commission intended to sway the public cannot display contempt for the public.  With due respect, Senator Simpson's conduct fails that test.

        Third, most members of the Commission are political leaders, not economists.  With all respect for Alice Rivlin, with just one economist on board you are denied access to the professional arguments surrounding this highly controversial issue.  In general, it is impossible to have a fair discussion of any important question when the professional participants in that discussion have been picked, in advance, to represent a single point of view.

        Conflicts of interest constitute the fourth major problem.  The fact that the Commission has accepted support from Peter G. Peterson, a man who has for decades conducted a relentless campaign to cut Social Security and Medicare, raises the most serious questions.  Quite apart from the merits of Mr. Peterson's arguments, this act must be condemned.  A Commission serving public purpose cannot accept funds or other help from a private party with a strong interest in the outcome of that Commission's work.  Your having done so is a disgrace.

        In my view you also should not have accepted help from the Economic Policy Institute, even though EPI's positions on the merits are substantially closer to mine.

        •  Obama's legacy: a diminished S.S. program. (1+ / 0-)
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          Barack Obama will justly be reviled for having done his Uncle Pete Peterson's dirty work. Like any other run-of-the-mill bought-and-paid for pol would have done.

          Obama is who thought the Catfood Commission was a good idea. It's how he pays off his big donors, and makes for himself a place to (try) shifting the blame. The Commission proved we had to cut S.S. That commission, and the resulting damage to S.S., are Obama's doing, as is his spitefully installing Alan Simpson as a co-chairman. For me, the Catfood Commission was the last straw from Barack Obama.

          As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he ever were to break wind in the echo chamber, he would never hear the end of it. --Bulwer-Lytton Contest entry

          by Wom Bat on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 01:14:22 PM PDT

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          •  Your timing is off. SS has not been cut yet. (2+ / 0-)
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            Of course, pre-blame is very popular now. Why don't you go ahead and blame Obama for the results of 2032 elections as well while you're at it?

            •  By all means, (0+ / 0-)

              please leave a sensible comment if you have one in you. By 2032 the Dem Party (and average Americans) will hopefully be recovering from dumbass Obama moves like helping RWers attack the social safety net during historically bad economic times. We know this ingenious strategy by the president is guaranteed to win Dems millions of votes in '10, '12, '16, '18, '20, '22, '24, '26, 28 and '30.

              As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he ever were to break wind in the echo chamber, he would never hear the end of it. --Bulwer-Lytton Contest entry

              by Wom Bat on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 04:41:12 PM PDT

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              •  millions of votes? (0+ / 0-)

                If the Democratic Party hangs SS cuts around its neck, the only relevant question about its future is
                "What replaces the Democratic Party after 2012?"

                Even teabaggers aren't going to scare the Democratic base into voting for the Democrats that did this to us. I don't necessarily see people as voting for a GOP not seen as being any better, I simply see people not bothering to choose between right-centrists and left-centrists.

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                by alizard on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:22:53 PM PDT

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                •  What you said is what I said. I'm assuming you, (1+ / 0-)
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                  as I been, were being sarcastic re the millions of votes.

                  Viewed from any perspective except treachery and political payoff, Barack Obama's placing his Democratic Party presidential imprimatur on cutting Social Security is inexplicable. He has virtually absolved Republicans from blame for it. Obama's betrayal will poison his legacy. It is already undermining the Democratic Party's claim to represent average Americans. I can't fathom how Republicans have stifled their glee.

                  From a more elementary perspective, the presumptuousness in Obama's exposing Roosevelt's legacy to attack is almost unbelievably offensive. Not long ago Barack Obama was a junior U.S. senator from Illinois being groomed and brought along by the economic manipulator Robert Rubin. Now look where he is. And what he's done with it.        

                  The stars had aligned for candidate Obama. He ran against an awful Republican opponent and a despised predecessor. After Obama's victory, commentators competed to write the definitive obituary for a vanquished GOP. Here at DKos, the management hawked cartoon "Gopasaur T-shirts." For about 10 minutes, everything was a million laughs.      

                  But then an exceptionally cynical Obama White House began its orgy of political payoffs. Obama noisily set out to reform U.S. health care. But he secretly sold out public health insurance, the reform's signature feature, to the private-hospital lobby. And then he lied to us about supporting it, for eight months. In a bit of poetic justice, the lobbyists who'd bought out public healthcare spilled the beans on him Obama.

                  http://www.nytimes.com/...    

                  Twenty months of historic unemployment and several botched "reforms" later, the WH is talking in garbled gibberish. And we're being told daily those millions of votes are going the wrong way.

                  As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he ever were to break wind in the echo chamber, he would never hear the end of it. --Bulwer-Lytton Contest entry

                  by Wom Bat on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 05:36:05 AM PDT

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                  •  let's say millions of votes (1+ / 0-)
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                    running quickly away from anything with a "D" label.

                    No matter how low in info a "low information voter" is, this is going to be sufficient data to poison the well permanently.

                    IOW, if the Catfood Commission does as expected and Congress follows, it'll be time to build a new progressive party lifeboat for Democrats ... and make sure the Democrats who supported it are dumped over the side if they try to ooze their way in.

                    From the President on down. Assuming Obama runs for a second term, which would be a moderately stupid thing to do unless he's trying to beat the previous Electoral College record for the fewest states won.

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                    by alizard on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 04:41:02 PM PDT

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                    •  It's time we all woke up (1+ / 0-)
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                      to the fact that all of them, the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, are our enemies. Both parties have been bought off, and people are way down their priorities list. To Democratic Party politicians like Obama and Biden, we're a source of money, volunteers and votes. And that's as far as it goes. They don't want to hear anything from us, ever, except how great we think they're doing.

                      I hung in with the Dems a long time, but now feel a little foolish for having done so.

                      I'm wondering when the dump-Obama thing will get started. Probably after S.S. gets cut, would be my guess. It'll hit here last if ever, because lots of these are die-hard fans and the ownership has axes to grind because of er, careerism. Can't wait to see what Obama's constant defenders will say to that...but people can only get crapped on for so long before they're forced to do something different.

                      Seen all that about Waxman & Net Neutrality? That's pretty disheartening too.

                      As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he ever were to break wind in the echo chamber, he would never hear the end of it. --Bulwer-Lytton Contest entry

                      by Wom Bat on Tue Sep 28, 2010 at 07:33:07 AM PDT

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                      •  waxman is an entertainment corporate (1+ / 0-)
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                        whore who votes progressive on social issues only because this won't cost his sponsors anything. And of course, this makes him popular with the OFA "anybody with a D after his name" crowd.

                        Have you heard that the Obama Administration is reviving the "we must have crypto backdoors in all privacy software" that blew up in Clinton's face? Side effects may make Open Source development impossible in the US and could make it illegal to use.

                        I'm working on building a high-tech startup. The passage of that legislation will mean that the smart place to put it will be anywhere but America. Not to say that Obama's "Three Stooges of Finance" aren't perfectly adequate reasons to locate a business somewhere the hell else.

                        Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

                        by alizard on Tue Sep 28, 2010 at 03:54:36 PM PDT

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  •  Man this is funny (27+ / 0-)

    But by letting nutters get a foothold, he may usher us into the past.

    He let them?  Those are her friends, but he has the control over them, and they wont even believe he's an American.  

    "You can't form a line if you're too scared to stand alone"..The Ascended Master Stevie Wonder

    by Adept2u on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:20:27 AM PDT

    •  See, by blaming Obama (6+ / 0-)
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      she absolves herself of 0 accountability.  Jeez, she may just as well be Howie Kurtz.

      •  So... Obama has nothing at all to do with (0+ / 0-)

        encouraging the Republicans, even if by the fact that he and his White House advisors and the Democratic Party did not fight back sufficiently against their destructive partisanship for most of the last two years?  Zero blame? It's just crazy talk?

        [Conservatives are] engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; ...the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. JK Galbrai

        by Vtdblue on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:39:35 AM PDT

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      •  The Media (7+ / 0-)

        Crowned GW Bush, the guys you wanna have a beer with, sold us his war knowingly it was a concoction of lies, including the NYT, named Rove the greatest political mind since Machiavelli, and now no one says a peep meanwhile he is an "analysts" an "reporter" and the director of an empire of billionaire funded campaings to buy Democracy.

        The media defended Fox News from mean Obama, attacked Obama because he was way overexposing himself and then because he never gave them press conferences, the media made the Teabaggers the protagonists of a whole year worth of news cycles with out any minimal critical look to their funding, motivation or relation to the Republican enterprises.

        The media in America is a big part of the problem

    •  You and his Big Fans will never believe it, but (1+ / 0-)
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      in fact Obama HAS contributed to letting the nutters get a foothold. He's not the only cause, by any stretch, but his conservative governance, failure to prosecute the atrocities of the previous administration, and absolutely unnecessary "bipartisanship" surrenders to people who hate him have, indeed, contributed to their resurgence in even greater hating glory.

      I'm sorry you all can't or won't understand that. Dowd gets a lot wrong, and is a Villager through and through, but here's where the diarist's, and your, logic falls down. You go from ANY criticism of Obama direct to criticism of those who hate him, and won't acknowledge that there are lots (let's leave Dowd out of this for now, but it's debatable whether she is the same as the Repug assholes) of folks who do NOT hate Obama -- who nonetheless believe the whacko right wing would not be nearly as strong today if he had not pandered to them and their Blue Dog conservaDem supporters.

      I'd guess it's more like Dowd being shocked! Shocked I tell you! to see the forces of irrationality cranked up by the Right Wing turning on her own kind, instead of merely beating up on Democrats. That's a standard response about Obama being the problem, because after all he's not really a legitimate President and he's stirred up so much trouble because he goes against the natural order of things.

      The logical fallacy above is that "If Obama is a problem, it's because he's not a legitimate president and is against the natural order of things." That, of course, is an easy way to demean and dismiss criticisms and critics who do not believe any of the Teabagger birtherism or racist, theocratic bullshit.

      I.e., Dowd is not entirely wrong here, in a stopped clock sense.

      [Conservatives are] engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; ...the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. JK Galbrai

      by Vtdblue on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:37:06 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Really? (15+ / 0-)

        So Obama gave them all that press, made sure that every one of their tantrums got tons of air time, promoted their lame rallies, and paid for ads?

        Really?

        Because if they HADN'T had all that press, all that airtime, all that exposure, they would have sunk back into the mud from which they crawled.

        Obama should have waved his magic wand and fixed everything, I take it that's what you think? Poof, and it's all better? Congress has nothing to do with anything, they just sit around picking their asses, right?

        Well, it seems most of the time like they do just that, which is a BIGGER problem than anything Obama did - or didn't do.

        •  Dude -- a whole lotta ground between your (0+ / 0-)

          strawman and the reality of his complicity. He's the president, and is the only one who could have, had he wished, pushed back harder against this -- but chose not to.

          [Conservatives are] engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; ...the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. JK Galbrai

          by Vtdblue on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 03:00:21 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  Well.... (3+ / 0-)
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        Obama's continued efforts to treat Republicans as though they might possibly work with him if he just compromises enough and makes enough concessions has proven to be both bad tactics and bad strategy.  Part of that is because (I'm speculating) he can't look at the very real problems facing this country and see why they wouldn't work with him to fix them. What so many fail to realize is that the Republicans don't SEE these problems - everything is going great for their base, so why fix what ain't broke?

        For sone reason (Stockholm Syndrome?) Democrats in the DC culture don't seem to act like they ARE legitimate - or recognize that Republicans are determined to block them at every step and rip up everything the party has ever accomplished.

        How much of Obama's diffidence is driven by not a need to work with the GOP, but the Blue Dogs who'd have a stroke if the President actually tried to act like an FDR or an HST?

        The reason I have some questions about whether or not sanity is breaking out is because I think Dowd has suddenly realized her own comfortable little world is being threatened, without understanding her part it that event.

        But the stopped clock sense is certainly real.

        "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

        by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 12:01:01 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  your argument might have more weight (0+ / 0-)

        if you had been able to resist

        You and his Big Fans

        By starting your comment by unnecessary name-calling, you've watered down your credibility.

        Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

        by SottoVoce on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 02:59:15 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  It's a literal description. Are you NOT a "big (0+ / 0-)

          fan" of the president?  Either way, the "Big Fans" are those who cannot seem to find the will to implicate this administration in ANYthing that's gone wrong.  It's a blindered, defensive, and ultimately unrealistic approach.  And it's counterproductive to our collective future.

          [Conservatives are] engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; ...the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. JK Galbrai

          by Vtdblue on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 03:03:27 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  The Kochs and their billions have nothing (1+ / 0-)
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      to do with nutters getting a foothold. If Obama would just resign, they'd go away.

      I never liked you and I always will.

      by Ray Blake on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 02:05:40 PM PDT

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      •  when you say (0+ / 0-)

        If Obama would just resign, they'd go away

        do you refer to the nutters or the Koch brothers?

        Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

        by SottoVoce on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 03:00:44 PM PDT

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        •  The nutters would go away, as long as a (0+ / 0-)

          a white guy replaces him. The Kochs, unfortunately, are in for the long haul.

          I never liked you and I always will.

          by Ray Blake on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 04:47:55 PM PDT

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          •  Yes, and sadly, the Koches have riled up their (1+ / 0-)
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            troops to the extent that the uprising isn't limited to a president who is serving while black (and intelligent).  All Dems are on their hit lists, and even moderate Republicans are nearly extinct.

            Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. --Mark Twain

            by SottoVoce on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 05:05:27 PM PDT

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      •  Unless that's meant as snark.... (1+ / 0-)
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        It's wrong on the facts. The Tea Party Express Dick Armey has been operating started from groups funded by the Koch brothers. They've poured money into political races where they can find candidates spouting the Tea Party line.  

        Besides, it's not a question of the nutters getting a foothold - they've always been part and parcel of the Republican conservative wing. They've just become a lot more visible lately. There is nothing they've been saying that hasn't been spouted by conservatives for years.

        "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

        by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 04:27:11 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  It was StealthSnark™ (0+ / 0-)

          Apparently.

          I never liked you and I always will.

          by Ray Blake on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 04:46:25 PM PDT

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          •  Too Stealthy for the Traditional Media (1+ / 0-)
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            It's rare to hear any mention of the big money behind Tea Party actions.

            Another thing that irks me is the cluelessness of the media (as on All Things Considered today) wondering why Obama isn't getting more credit for his accomplishments. They posit this and speculate about that - and never mention that Fox News and the right wing echo machine do everything they can to set the narrative 24/7. They kept Bush in power for 8 years of disaster - and they'll do everything they can to get Obama out in 4.

            "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

            by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 04:55:20 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

  •  Colbert giving a statement in character (21+ / 0-)

    at a Congressional hearing drips with sarcasm.

    Good morning. My name is Stephen Colbert: television personality, comedian and resident of New York. I would like to thank the committee and its members for their time today and their open minds as I present my statement for the record.

    Closed minds are the norm in Washington these days.

    If cats could blog, they wouldn't.

    by crystal eyes on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:23:49 AM PDT

  •  I think the Koran burning minister who endangered (22+ / 0-)

    our troops was a dose of reality for all of them.  They looked around and saw that there were real consequences for egging on extremists. That's when I noticed a change.  Even Palin came out against it.  I think they realized they weren't in isolation here in the US where everyone was under their spell. They saw that it wasn't  just about getting elected, but that there was a real world out there that wasn't watching Fox News and wasn't buying that meme.  Like poking a stick in a hornet's nest.  So, they are waking up, but still have dysfunctional belief systems.  I don't care. Sanity is a good thing.  I'll accept them realizing how crazy the thinking has been however it comes to them. I don't read them anyway, but others do and they will be phrasing their "awakening" in ways the extremists can relate to.

    I appreciated your diary because I don't read them and am glad to hear the news!

    I can't change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination. ~Jimmy Dean

    by ParkRanger on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:26:50 AM PDT

  •  Maureen Dowd Is Great 50% Of The Time (7+ / 0-)

    She basically takes the sterotypes of both ends of the political spectrum and weaves her tale. Problem is this. Conservatives portrayed as political anti-intellectual neanderthals is not a stereotype. It's a cultural characteristic. She is dead on there.
    Then she has to attack liberals by portraying them as out-of-touch eggheads. She is off base there. She did it to Kerry. She did it to Gore. Personally I would rather have a beer with Al Gore than George Bush. That fucker can't even drink anymore.

  •  Rove....funding the knucleheads who want him (2+ / 0-)
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    kaput....ironic.

  •  Personally (19+ / 0-)

    I'm starting to consider Mandarin lessons as a good career move.

    It's absolutely true: standing still in science (or retrograde motion) like people on both the left and right want us to do is a serious mistake. We are about to get our ass kicked by China.

    I've been seeing the data from the Beijing Genomics Institute. I know it's starting to flow now. It will only flow more.

    "It's not like she's marrying out of her species or anything," Ms. Lynch said.

    by mem from somerville on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:48:23 AM PDT

    •  this is horrific. (13+ / 0-)

      for us anyway.
      i mean what the eff else?

      It's an unfortunate fact of a downturn: declining corporate cash flows and slumping confidence usually induce firms to file fewer patents and slash spending on research and development.

      Apparently, China didn't get the memo.

      As much of the world invested fewer resources in innovation during the global downturn, Chinese firms spent more on innovative efforts, such as R&D and patent and trademark applications, according to a report by a UN agency.

      On Wednesday, the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) said that patent applications in China jumped 18.2 percent in 2008 and another 8.5 percent in 2009. Over the same period, ZTE, China's second-largest telecom equipment maker, boosted R&D spending 44.8 percent.

      In the U.S., patent filings fell 11.7 percent in 2008 and 2009, while companies like General Motors, Hewlett Packard and Microsoft slashed their R&D budget by more than 20 percent from 2008 to 2009. In Europe and Japan new patent filings dropped 7.9 and 10.8 percent, respectively, in 2009.

      and this is equally horrific.
      the Chinese government is totally subsidizing the mfg. of solar panels.
      so much for green jobs saving the day.
      this is  an area where the O admin must act.

      Published: 2:00 AM - 09/23/10

      HIGHLAND — President Obama will be getting a letter soon from Rep. Maurice Hinchey urging him to "stand up" to China for violating international trade laws that are putting domestic solar energy companies behind a competitive eight ball.

      Hinchey released the text of the letter Wednesday at a news conference held at Prism Solar Technologies one of the region's newest solar tech companies and one that has been victimized by the Chinese government's alleged illegalities, which include blocking foreign access to green energy materials, subsidizing Chinese exports and demanding foreign investors hand over trade secrets.

      It was special governmental handling like that, he said, that has allowed China to streak to the top of the solar energy industry.

      "It's clear the U.S. solar industry can compete," Hinchey said. "But we have to get this straightened out first."

      "Oh no...you changed your hair color? It's just so dark. You like it? And with your skin tone?" My Beloved Mom, December 25 2007, once again on notice.

      by Christin on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:54:59 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Tom Friedman had a column recently that (26+ / 0-)

      said:  

      So while America’s Republicans turned "climate change" into a four-letter word — J-O-K-E — China’s Communists also turned it into a four-letter word — J-O-B-S.

      He then highlighted a company owner who was educated in the US, developed key recycling technology here, but has factories in EU and China.  He's there NOT for the cheap labor like most would think, but because they have invested in the recycling process and have the raw materials he needs.  The US doesn't.

      link here

    •  Somehow... (2+ / 0-)
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      I doubt it's going to work that way.  Unlike us, the Chinese reserve such jobs for themselves, from all I see.

      Not to mention the fact that alot of us U.S. scientists are quite anti-authoritarian, and China is still, for all intents and purposes, run by a totalitarian government.

      But maybe if you get the right contacts, you can get some sweet consulting deals.  I just don't see that the Chinese will ever need us to do anything but train their future generations of scientists.

      •  I've known a number of Chinese scientists (6+ / 0-)

        as lab mates and friends. I think you've got a stereotype going there that may not reflect current Chinese perspective.

        And one evolves or dies in science. Evolving to be more able to work with scientists in China would be wise.

        "It's not like she's marrying out of her species or anything," Ms. Lynch said.

        by mem from somerville on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 10:49:53 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  It could be. (0+ / 0-)

          I've known several myself, a couple of which were good colleagues and friends.  But my experiences working for, or rotating with, Chinese PIs rather poisoned my outlook.

          Though the irony was that the very worst PI I ever had the displeasure to work under was Chinese -- but raised in the U.S. by first-generation Chinese immigrants.  He apparently embraced the worst of BOTH worlds.

    •  I don't know, mem. (0+ / 0-)

      I think the dems have done an incredibly good job of kicking their own ass.  

      And I'm too damn old to learn a new language.  

      Who will be America's Gibbons?

      by jaf49 on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 10:35:49 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  It's a wonder there is ANY human progress with (8+ / 0-)

    all the forces of irrationality and greed aligned against it.

    Oh, make me wanna holler /And throw up both my hands--Marvin Gaye

    by Wildthumb on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:49:53 AM PDT

    •  Old Trade offs (7+ / 0-)

      People often have to chose between long term and short term gains. And they have to chose between things that may be good for them individually, but bad for the groups they belong to.

      When people say government should be run more like a business, ask them:

      1. Where do you work? And what will that workplace look like in 50 years?
      1. Do you have any idea what you or your employer would be doing in 50 years?

      Would it even be in the same business?

      1. What kind of investments are you making now for 50 years from now?

      Oh wait - you're not sure you'll be around in 50 years? You say you only have to worry about the figures for this quarter, and the next? You say you have to keep the stock price up, and the investors happy now?

      Children understand NOW and satisfying their own needs.  Adults learn to think about tomorrow, the needs of those besides themselves - and the years to come. If you want to understand the difference between business and government, that's one analogy.  Of course, it helps if you elect a government from among the adults and not the overgrown children screaming the loudest and making promises they can't keep.

      "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

      by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:27:24 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Good diary, well expressed points of view. (6+ / 0-)

    But it was hard to continue reading after I got the image of Tea Partiers at Beltway soirees in my head.

    Pancho needs your prayers it's true, but save a few for Lefty, too. Townes van Zandt

    by DaNang65 on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:53:26 AM PDT

    •  That horrifies Dowd too. (3+ / 0-)
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      "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

      by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:15:51 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Fighting for satays and mini-crabcakes (1+ / 0-)
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        skohayes

        with one of...  them... oh, the horror!

        Give me the chance and I'll do the rest. --John J. "Buck" O'Neil

        by conlakappa on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 01:36:10 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  no worries (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm sure that any teabagger who makes it to Washington will find a RNC minder waiting for him or her, ready to introduce that teabagger to K Street lobbyists, and ready to teach that person what fork to eat with at a formal dinner, where to get suitable clothing and what that clothing is supposed to be, why it's a bad idea to urinate in a corner of one's office, and other little things one needs to know to get ahead in the Beltway.

          Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

          by alizard on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 12:03:34 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Tea party candidates wouldn't do as well (8+ / 0-)

    without their corporate backers.  From the LA Times:

    As the New Yorker's Jane Mayer wrote recently in the first detailed journalistic profile of the Kochs and their activities, they "are longtime libertarians who believe in drastically lower personal and corporate taxes, minimal social services for the needy and much less oversight of industry — especially environmental regulation." Koch Industries was named recently in a study as "one of the top 10 air polluters in the United States,"

    That doesn't sound like a sound platform for the American people.  Sounds like more  $$$ for the greedy  Koch brothers.  

    Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity. Horace Mann (and btw, the bike in kayakbiker is a bicycle)

    by Kayakbiker on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:56:29 AM PDT

    •  That is what the middle wants (6+ / 0-)

      You cut taxes, cut services, cut regulations and cut jobs.  Republicans have been pushing the idea for years and now it is what has been decided as the center of the political spectrum since corporations have their own wing of the Democratic party.

      The left has been doing everything short of lighting actual fires under the asses of congress to no avail.  While there is still time to fix things, there is no will.  The rightwing propaganda machine works so well that even Democrats have bought into it and there is simply not enough people doing the right things for the right reasons.

      •  It's a Democratic Position too. (5+ / 0-)

        In NY, Andy Cuomo is in a contest with Palladino to see who can cut more jobs out of state government and cut more agencies.

        You know, you can't really persuade people government might be the answer to our problems if both parties keep treating it like the enemy. When Democrats regurgitate GOP talking points, the GOP wins.

        "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

        by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:34:44 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  "Autism" (7+ / 0-)

    Don't Let The Republicans Break Your Government Again...Vote Democratic 2010. March on Washington D.C. 10-02-10.

    by reddbierd on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 09:59:06 AM PDT

  •  Poor Snarky "Villagers" (1+ / 0-)
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    "Pity" snarky Maureen Dowd, Exhibit A of D.C. Village "thinking." Her "press release GOP 'moderates,'" (LOL) are being tea bagged. Maybe in the little "sliver" of what's left in the Villagers "rational" frontal lobe cortecies, it is suddenly dawning on them  that the GOP "Pledge" is reactionary drivel. Drivel that was tried and failed under Gingrich, Herbert Hoover, and William  McKinley.GOTV, GOTV, GOTV, Dems! For more on the G"NO"P's "Pledge" for Billionaires, read    this

  •  dowd reminds of (7+ / 0-)

    the long island irish contingent of the republican party . . .

    she was completely infatuated with poppy bush and is, at heart, one of them.

    this isn't about republicans. it's about those pesky upstarts...

    "Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop" Gus McCrae

    by pfiore8 on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 10:30:35 AM PDT

  •  You had me in the first paragraph.... (2+ / 0-)
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    then you lost me by quoting Dowd.  There is nothing she can say or do that will be anything more than a total waste of time for me to read it.

    And true to form how she ultimately found a way (as usual) to blame it all on Obama which would be hilarious if it were not so utterly predictable.

  •  Occasionally Dowd gets it right. (2+ / 0-)
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    "They had fangs. They were biting people. They had this look in their eyes,totally cold, animal. I think they were young Republicans."

    by slouching on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 10:43:11 AM PDT

  •  what a crock of shit she is (7+ / 0-)

    President Obama was supposed to be a giant leap forward in modernity, the brainy, rational first black president leading us out of the scientific darkness of the W. years. But by letting nutters get a foothold, he may usher us into the past.

    How the fuck is that Obama's problem?  Is she delusionally retarded?  If the nutters were in the Democratic Party she might have something legit to gripe about, but they are fucking REPUBLICANT'S!!!!  She's got to try to be all fair-y and balance-y, i guess.  What a sad sack of shit.  I'm glad I never read her verbal diarrhea.

  •  "Given that, those Democrats running scared ... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... out there should turn and instead get out in front of that wave and ride it for all it's worth."

    Very good advice.

  •  Probably not. Nice thought, though. This (1+ / 0-)
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    place is farther gone than any of us wants to think it is. America is being run for the top few percent. That's settled policy. As long as either the Republicans or the Democrats are in power, it will continue. The horribly disappointing presidency of Barack Obama, a Democratic president who has loosed Alan Simpson to hack away at S.S., has gotten that through my thick skull, at last.

    As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he ever were to break wind in the echo chamber, he would never hear the end of it. --Bulwer-Lytton Contest entry

    by Wom Bat on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:02:22 AM PDT

  •  Only in Daily Kos (0+ / 0-)

    where Maureen Dowd and Tom Friedman are considered enemies would the idea that Maureen has written about a crazy woman running for the United States Senate, and Friedman complains that the thug politics of the Republican Tea Party is endangering our future be considered dramatic proof that sanity is breaking out where it has previously been missing.

    Both columns are part of the recurring themes of both columnists.

    Important whining and Red Sox stuff at http://edsbarth.blogspot.com/

    by Barth on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:04:28 AM PDT

    •  True enough (2+ / 0-)
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      That's why I speculated

      It's not really sanity breaking out after all.

      I'd guess it's more like Dowd being shocked! Shocked I tell you! to see the forces of irrationality cranked up by the Right Wing turning on her own kind, instead of merely beating up on Democrats.

      "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

      by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:40:42 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I hardly think israel is an example of sanity (0+ / 0-)

    israel choosing to fighting everyone instead of just the extremist crazies is exactly what we don't want to do.

    •  If you mean the reference in the Poll.... (0+ / 0-)

      That was a biblical reference more than a comment on anything currently happening. Sanity is not a noted export of the middle east these days.

      "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

      by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:43:26 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Villagers are panicking, because (7+ / 0-)

    the Visigoths are at the gates, clamoring for more Sarah Palin.

    Rattles their cages.

    Encourage others to register! Deadlines coming up fast! http://tinyurl.com/2ck77p http://tinyurl.com/28sykel

    by shpilk on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:21:09 AM PDT

  •  She blamed Obama for GOP? Friedman now Chinese? (4+ / 0-)
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    I read that too. The paragraph slapping President Obama was tacked on there just for the helluvit or something. The wingnuts are acting & speaking just like they have for years and years. It isn't President Obama's doing, it isn't his fault.

    As for Friedman, I expect to read any day now that he has taken up Chinese citizenship. The guy absolutely loves China and its economic/political system. Can't stop admiring everything about it. He never mentions the genocide/mass slaughter -- 80 million killed, give or take. Imagine Hitler's Germany winning WWII and now running a bustling, economic power -- would Friedman gush in admiration? Since the Chinese are violating international trade law by keeping their currency artificially low to promote exports, maybe at least once Friedman could express a little outrage on behalf of the millions of Americans who are now jobless because our industrial base was sent off-shore -- to places like his favorite country: China.

    Greenspan admits his free market faith was "a mistake" - Reliance on self interest creates a flaw "in how the world works."

    by Otherday on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:26:45 AM PDT

  •  I'm gonna stay Mulder on this. (0+ / 0-)

    I'd like to believe.

    If you could watch yourself in action, would you be proud? I love everyone from a distance. A huge, huge, vast reaches of space, distance.

    by Ruemara on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:35:39 AM PDT

  •  As the diarist hints (7+ / 0-)

    the real concern for Dowd and the other villagers is that the teabaggers will not be much fun to have around (at first, at least).  I am reminded of Broder's comments on the Clintons trashing the place.  Any threat to the established village order is to be feared.  MoDo is nothing without the cocktail circuit.  What would she do with herself?

  •  Let's all face reality folks! (3+ / 0-)
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    Due to the rise of the anti-intellectual, anti-science right wing nutsacks, the cowardly Democrats in the White House and the Congress, the diminution of the middle class, and, most importantly, our poor excuse for an educational system, the U.S. is entering a long, slow period of decline which, with the rise of China and other nations, will become progressively irreversible and irrecoverable.

    I certainly don't blame all of this on Obama but unfortunately when we needed another FDR or Martin Luther King instead we got a Rodney King  - "Can't we all just get along?"

    Pissants like Dowd are irrelevant.

  •  See Karen Heller's column in today's Inqy (3+ / 0-)
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    for a real take-down of that fucker Toomey!  About time someone in the media started to pay attention and go beyond the silly season stuff.  

    I'm saving my NY Times for tonight so I can savor it over a few well-earned adult beverages...

    Yes, friends, governments in capitalist society are but committees of the rich to manage the affairs of the capitalist class. James Connolly

    by dizzydean on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:55:24 AM PDT

    •  Wow, that column gave me hope (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
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      Until I read some of the comments. Who knew all these right wing repubs were hiding in PA?
      Here's one shining example:

      So what is the endgame x7227? SSN has hundreds of millions of dollars in unfunded liabilities. Public debt now eats up a large portion of the GDP. Nor did I say anywhere that assistance should be stopped completely. More to the point, Americans should be weened off gov't assistance for the sake of the nation's fiscal health.

      How come the dove gets to be the peace symbol? How about the pillow? It has more feathers than the dove and doesn't have that dangerous beak. Jack Handey

      by skohayes on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 02:56:51 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah, and the one who believe the New Deal (2+ / 0-)
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        was a failure really take the cake.  Most of these idiots are in the burbs...Philly will come out strong for Sestak, it's just a matter of turnout.  The burbs are another story...I fear for Patrick Murphy, who is a really good congresscritter...

        Yes, friends, governments in capitalist society are but committees of the rich to manage the affairs of the capitalist class. James Connolly

        by dizzydean on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 03:11:49 PM PDT

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  •  The Sanity rally is still a few weeks out, so, (0+ / 0-)

    I'm taking all signs with a grain of salt.

    "There's been a little complication with my complication"

    by dash888 on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 11:57:37 AM PDT

  •  How DARE you impugn the importance of Snooki? (1+ / 0-)
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    xaxnar

    Her getting punched in the face last season was one of the monumental moments in television history.

  •  Don't look for a mental health check in the Times (1+ / 0-)
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    alizard

    The insanity is running wild, and the people who need to read and believe this sort of commentary think the New York Times is to the left of Pravda. Don't hold your breath waiting for an outbreak of rationalism just because a couple of 'grafs in the Times make sense.

    Some people are intolerant, and I CAN'T STAND people like that. -- Tom Lehrer

    by TheCrank on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 12:05:21 PM PDT

  •  We can all complain, but you know what it (3+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse, ETF, orangecurtainlib

    won't matter.  The U.S. is going down, its not because of Obama, so please get that straight. Its because our Country is owned by Greed, the Corporations, Wall Street, and the Republican Party.

    We will be Rome, we will fall, and the rest of the World will just sit back laughing.  We reap what we sow, we have reaped, now it time to sow.

  •  The only saving grace is that when/if we go down, (2+ / 0-)
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    the idiot-media goes down with us.

    I submit that if there are lifeboats, they be the last in.

    "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

    by Sybil Liberty on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 12:18:16 PM PDT

    •  the lifeboats will be the (0+ / 0-)

      private jets of the Richistani.

      The Villagers who are not themselves members of that group won't be in them. The private jet crowd can find people to enable their greed anywhere. Perhaps they'll even find some that can write.

      Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

      by alizard on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 12:11:11 AM PDT

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  •  correction about those DNA sequencers (1+ / 0-)
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    the Beijing Genomics Institute this year ordered 128 DNA sequencers — from America — giving China the largest number in the world in one institute

    Not exactly. I'll bet that the Broad Insitute, Celera Genomics, Wash. U. in St. Louis, and the Sanger Institute have more DNA sequencers. Friedman is actually referring to Illumina's HiSeq super-duper new sequencer, which has immense throughput.

    Yeah, this is what we get by funneling our money to China via Walmart and to Halliburton via Iraq and Afghanistan.

  •  I love how the "conservatives" always (7+ / 0-)

    blame President Obama when their poop backfires on them.  President Obama didn't organize or fund the tea party movement.  Nor did he arrange transportation to and from events, or send lies in email to them.  Liberals didn't do any of these things either, but when someone on the right like Beck wants to identify the source of all of the country's problems, we can feel confident that liberals and President Obama's names will be at the top of the list.  Beck likes to say that "liberalism is a disease," and it's fine with me because I can go to my grave knowing that, in some way, some of my efforts led to a brighter future for others whom I don't even know, and this is satisfaction enough for me.  

    The reason I taught school for over 30 years was because I had a real desire to help point some of our young people in the right direction to a brighter future.  I put the money I didn't ever expect where my heart was.  I went in knowing I'd never get rich teaching, and it didn't matter.  I have been rewarded by having former students attend and graduate from Harvard Law, Emory Medical, UCLA, and by having some play in the NFL. Others went on to become accountants, dentists, doctors, nurses, teachers, day care owners, engineers, marine biologists, chemists, physicists, paralegals, business owners, politicians, etc.  I don't think this is bad at all for a liberal teacher who happens to have lived in GA all of of her life.  

    •  You're not a teacher - you're an enabler! (1+ / 0-)
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      But sometimes that's a good thing! Thanks for making the world a bit better.

      "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

      by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 12:42:12 PM PDT

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  •  Blind pig, truffle (1+ / 0-)
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    I searched for this, in comments, because I figured it was so obvious.

    She'll be back to stretching tropes she learned in high-school English in no time.  

    Oh, and punching hippies.  That's her meal ticket.

    They must have a war room at the White House. I think they've got a sissy room too. - Ed Schultz, NN10

    by itswhatson on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 12:40:16 PM PDT

  •  All media is controlled from above (0+ / 0-)

    Just when they think they've got the answer, I change the question. -Roddy Piper

    by McGirk on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 12:41:59 PM PDT

  •  It's all fun and games and political theater (4+ / 0-)
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    ..when viewed from the Ivory Towers at the Times, or the Post, or CNN..

    Down here in the trenches - it's a completely different animal. It seems as if every election these past few years are for the soul of the country, the or the future of the country, or are somehow really, really important.

    The survival of the American Dream is pretty damn important. Or perhaps better said the "reanimation" or "resurrection" of the dream.

    Our track record the last decade really isn't much to brag about.

    Live more, fear less, fight harder

    by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 12:43:55 PM PDT

  •  Pardon me, but I fail to understand all ......... (2+ / 0-)
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    ........ the hoopla that seems to surround an op-ed writer's op-ed piece.  Good, bad, or otherwise.  

    The only thing that will save the sorry asses of the Democrats is the Republicans.

    by ThAnswr on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 12:45:59 PM PDT

    •  It's a novelty (2+ / 0-)
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      It's like hearing a parrot suddenly quote Shakespeare, or Newt Gingrich exhibit a sense of shame. Neither is likely to happen, but if it does, people notice if only for the novelty of it.

      "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

      by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 01:35:29 PM PDT

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  •  Nothing is more important to Maureen Dowd (2+ / 0-)
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    than Maureen Dowd.  It's time to veer ever so slightly toward the Dems just in case.

    You can thank the Tea Potty for Dowd's slight course recalibration....Christine O'Donnell & Sharron Angle in particular.  And....Meg Whitman just called Fresno "awful".  Wonder if Fresno's 500,000 constituents agree.  Even the $119 MILLION Whitman has spent may not get her out of that one.  
     

  •  The fact that NYT exhibits sanity (1+ / 0-)
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    willibro

    only tells me that the Times is better than it was when Jayson Blair was there.

    The problem is that no one really reads the Times anymore.  No one reads anymore.

    15 million voters in 37 days. Sign up at OFA today.

    by Benintn on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 12:58:58 PM PDT

  •  Too little too late? (2+ / 0-)
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    willibro, Mike Peterson

    As long as Fox News is still spewing lies, the masses will continue to follow blindly.

    We've got serious work to do. Health care and civil rights for all, please!

    by the dogs sockpuppet on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 01:04:15 PM PDT

  •  the sanity push may also come from Rove (0+ / 0-)

    Rove may play an important role in regaining sane control over teabaggers within the GOP. Something we will not like at all, but maybe the best chances to return to sanity on the right in this country? Interesting development for the man who nurtured insanity when he was in power.

  •  Friedman is right (2+ / 0-)
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    Even a broken clock ...

    The Chinese are smart.  They are investing in the future.  

    The problem is that too much of our money goes into warfare and the pockets of crooks.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 01:27:28 PM PDT

  •  ha ha (3+ / 0-)
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    xaxnar, skohayes, Mike Peterson

    Media to America... "Psych!"

    Well at least until tomorrow when Lindsey Lohan farts and John Boehner comes out and says the new, NEW GOP is for, wait for it, tax cuts!

    Ooooh Shiny!

    Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul in this world--and never will. Mark Twain

    by whoknu on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 01:27:37 PM PDT

  •  Besides Monkeys not evolving before our eyes (2+ / 0-)
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    skohayes, Mike Peterson

    I'd like to ask O'Donnell if she so believes in creationism and stuff, where are all the fucking dinosaurs? Where did they go? According to her way of thinking, dinosaurs and man inhabited the earth at the same time.
    If so, what happened to the dinosaurs? They should be roaming the earth right now!
    Of course, thinking humans know that many species we have on earth today are descended from the dinos. But that's evolution.
    So what's Christine's explanation?
    (And no cheating Christine - you can't say "because they all died off" because that would also be evolution! Survival of the fittest, doncha know).

  •  I was recently talking to a professor of (1+ / 0-)
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    alizard

    biology from one of SUNY campuses. He has been given money by Chinese government to organize two research institutes: a mid-size one in China and a small one in California. And he's recruiting faculty for them, mostly in US. And he's not ethnic Chinese (he happens to be Iranian).

  •  Ssshhhh (0+ / 0-)

    Don't tell anyone!

    "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." Aldous Huxley

    by xyz on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 02:06:25 PM PDT

  •  China's fifth moon shot (1+ / 0-)
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    codairem

    China is going to have 400 new cities complete by 2020. Each will be a livable urban environment with housing, recreation, businesses and education. These cities are planned to be ecologically sensitive. I googled on one such city and got almost no information. These will be paid for by the State and the designs go out for bids, within China and internationally.

    I think that we in the US are displaying a naive cynicism that China will fail. They have been growing at 8 to 12% a year. If you compound that over a few decades you get some staggering numbers.

    If you look at China you get a command economy at the highest levels of planning and a capitalist economy at the lowest business level. All of the high level planning is centralized along with the infrastructure. Commercial buildings, land, power, water, transportation and education are controlled and financed by the Government. A start-up in China has a much better chance of success than in the US.

    The challenge for them is to integrate democracy into their state; the challenge for us is to integrate rational planning into a country that is torn into pieces by a rabid right wing party that is telling the population that any form of planning will turn their country into a communism dictatorship and steal their birthright.

    At the current difference in growth rates China will blow past us in total GDP and never look back. We talk about the twenty first century as the Chinese century. It's time to take this seriously and think about the ramifications and think about how we could change.

    •  The Chinese have a historical advantage (2+ / 0-)
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      Their history goes back centuries; thinking for the long term is not an exotic idea. They think in terms of dynasties, and public works (like the canals, the Great Wall, etc. that have been around forever, in cultural terms. They've had ups and downs, conquests and invasions. They aren't predisposed to think they're 'exceptional' in the way the conservatives here think the U.S. is exceptional and singled out to carry out God's plan.

      "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

      by xaxnar on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 04:39:49 PM PDT

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  •  Dowd isn't clueless and she never was (1+ / 0-)
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    xaxnar

    What she was was indifferent, bemused, detached, ironic, superior, aloof, above it all--i.e. all the things many people tend to be when they make enough money and hang out with enough of the "right" people long enough. By invitation or determination, she made it to the Kool Kidz table in the DC cocktail weenie circuit, with the price of membership being an eager willingness to mock the hoi polloi and anyone who would be so amusing as to actually care about the issues as Rome burned and they celebrated.

    But now that the fire has spread to their neighbor's house, they're no longer so amused or bemused. Reality--it's the ultimate bitch-slap in the face. Now Maureen knows it too. Who knows, maybe Tom and Charlie and Jon and Mika and even David will finally see the light:

    These teabaggers are fucking nuts and they want to take us back to 1775!

    "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" --Alexander Hamilton

    by kovie on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 02:31:03 PM PDT

  •  "casualties among the guest lists" (1+ / 0-)
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    You called it correctly. What else could it be? It isn't like teabaggers don't support centrism in its Reaganomics form.

    The only significant difference between a teabagger politician and a "mainstream Republican" is that the teabagger will say in public what a "mainstream Republican" will only say at private fundraisers where the press is neither invited nor welcome.

    As for Friedman, wasn't he one of the chief cheerleaders for permanent war on the Middle East for [insert casus belli of the week]?

    Certainly, it's nice to know that Villagers are suddenly acting like they'd like to see the USA do something other than collapse at a both social and economic level.

    But it's acting. It really is about in-groups, A-lists, and cocktail parties and keeping "the wrong people" (aka people who aren't multimillionaires from "good" families) out of national elected office to them.

    If they cared about the future of America, they would have started pushing for the kind of programs America needs to get out of the ditch bi-partisan centrism put us into starting Inauguration Day.

    They don't figure on going down the toilet with the rest of America, so they actively support the ongoing Richistani program to transfer as much of the content of our bank accounts into those of the super-rich as they can before bugging out,

    Those Villagers with private jets will bail out of America as soon as the infrastructures break down to the point where it is no longer possible to do First World "business as usual" in America.

    Those who don't have private jets figure on getting rides out of Dodge from people that do because they believe themselves too invaluable to the Richistani to leave behind to face mobs of angry peasants with pitchforks and torches.

    IMO, they're dead wrong about that. When the Richistani bug out of America en masse, they'll be leaving those Villagers who live in gated communities because they're too 'poor' to own their own compounds behind and sipping champagne at 35,000 feet while they watch cities and gated communities go up in smoke. They will do this because Villager US MSM connections will be worthless to them when America no longer has wealth that's easy to extract and they can buy media enablers anywhere.

    entire Republican Party and DLC/CAP DINOcrats are is solidly opposed to anything that might accomplish the changes needed when the big money boys behind them will be perfectly happy to cut deals with China instead.

    Corrections to above quote in bold. Where do you think the Villagers put their own investments? Part of the payoff in serving the interests of the private jet crowd is in getting better investment advice than the Villagers provide us.

    Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

    by alizard on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 03:25:26 PM PDT

  •  yup. sanity is always the final symptom. (0+ / 0-)

    we're going extinct.

    Without steep cuts in greenhouse gas emissions, the global thermometer could rise by 6.0 degrees Celsius making large swathes of the planet unlivable.

    by Green Bean on Sun Sep 26, 2010 at 03:26:16 PM PDT

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