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"We only voted for Scott Brown because Martha Chokely was a terrible candidate!"

Uh huh.  Right.

Then explain why the right wing dolt is neck and neck with Deval Patrick?

Deval Neck and Neck in Mass.

I mean, I keep hearing excuses about Scott Brown.  "He campaigned better."  "Chokely ran a terrible campaign."  "A lot of progressives stayed home."

Well....that excuse is proving to be false given the polling in Mass right now.  The tide really started to turn for the Republican party in Feb of this year with the election of Scott "Look, I'm a Model" Brown.  You know the 'moderate' who voted for a single jobs bill and is somehow according to our mentally deficient media a moderate?

No more excuses.

Turn in your liberal card now Mass.

All through the country, 'independents' (ie Dumb Fools) are allowing frothing psychotic tea baggers to be competitive with Democrats.  So the message to the rest of the world, starting with Mass., is "Almost half our population thinks Climate Zombie morons are a viable alternative to reality based politics."

That's not even including the Republicans that call themselves Progressive that plan to vote for their party (Republican) by staying home this November.  Yeehaaa! Let's burn that Earth.

Originally posted to TKLTKL94 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 11:58 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (2+ / 0-)
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    cville townie, tberry

    The United States Senate has lost its political legitimacy and should be abolished.

    by TKLTKL94 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 11:58:02 AM PDT

  •  You know what's the best way to get votes? (13+ / 0-)

    Insult the voters!  It totally works!

    They only call it Class War when we fight back.

    by lineatus on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 11:59:43 AM PDT

  •  Deval Patrick (7+ / 0-)

    is not very popular, and no opposition can change that. MA had GOP governors for a while before Patrick. And most polls show Patrick ahead.

    That explains why the race is competitive with a very likely Patrick win.

    People panic too much on this site.

    by thematt523 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 12:06:09 PM PDT

    •  So is there always an explanation (0+ / 0-)

      Besides the fact that the people of Mass. are just as willing to elect psychopaths as anywhere else?

      The United States Senate has lost its political legitimacy and should be abolished.

      by TKLTKL94 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 02:12:26 PM PDT

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      •  If you don't want to hear (0+ / 0-)

        my explanation, I have nothing to say to you.

        People panic too much on this site.

        by thematt523 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 03:25:16 PM PDT

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        •  I'm always willing to listen to an explanation (0+ / 0-)

          Just as I'm always willing to counter it.

          "Deval Patrick is not popular" is certainly an acceptable answer and explanation.

          "Martha Chokely was a horrible candidate" is not.  I mean she is, but the reason Mass. elected her is because they wanted to send a 'message' that health care reform was bad, not that Scott Brown was popular.

          The United States Senate has lost its political legitimacy and should be abolished.

          by TKLTKL94 on Tue Sep 28, 2010 at 09:48:46 AM PDT

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  •  Good to Know (1+ / 0-)
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    Anyone who does not share your political opinion is a dumbass and the Dems have no responsibility to earn their votes. After all, why try to learn something from the voters?

    And what the hell does your tagline mean?

    •  There are lots of people (0+ / 0-)

      Who I respect who don't think the same way I do.

      And its nice to know that Dems have to 'earn' your vote, when Republicans don't.

      Or you'll just stay home then?

      Well, that's still voting for a Republican.

      Voting third party? Well, you're still voting for a Republican.

      When its a choice between, "Psychopath" and "Not Psychopath" there is only one viable ethical choice as far as I'm concerned.

      The United States Senate has lost its political legitimacy and should be abolished.

      by TKLTKL94 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 02:13:52 PM PDT

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      •  Are you are implying (1+ / 0-)
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        thematt523

        that all Repubs are psychopaths? Because you would obviously be dead wrong. Brown won in MA because he connected with the voters and because he did 'earn' his votes. His Dem opponent appeared to believe she was entitled to them - and that is why she lost.

        •  I'm not implying anything (0+ / 0-)

          I am flat out saying that all Republican politicians are psychopaths.

          And I am not dead wrong, and if you can't SEE that, then I feel truly sorry for you.

          The United States Senate has lost its political legitimacy and should be abolished.

          by TKLTKL94 on Tue Sep 28, 2010 at 09:49:40 AM PDT

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  •  What poll? (2+ / 0-)
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    There are three different current polls.

    Suffolk has Patrick up by 6, UNH has him up by 1 and Suffolk has him up by 7.

    And lets clear something up about MA. yes it tends blue on National elections State elections questionable it has voted in numerous Republican Governors while for Dem across the board on everything else. It always been a bit schizophrenic this way.

    Finally I think Duval will win, but it will be tight.

    In the choice between changing ones mind and proving there's no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.

    by jsfox on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 12:18:25 PM PDT

  •  Another new poll has him with the same lead (1+ / 0-)
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    as earlier - so no need to really panic.  I think he will win, but as he told me a couple of weeks ago - "it's gonna be a dogfight."

    Polls are all over the place in these days of everybody and their brother becoming pollsters.  Have to parse the info carefully.

    I'm working to GOTV for Gov Patrick!

  •  Patrick has been a disappointment (3+ / 0-)
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    lineatus, Mr Magu, DrTerwilliker

    and if Baker had enough guts to repudiate the teabaggers and run as an old-style New England Republican, he'd probably win the election.

    He has not. Prediction: Patrick by about 2%.

    OTOH, I expect Martha Coakley to lose to someone who only got on the Republican ballot as a write-in. I can't imagine she has any support left.

    •  Bingo! (0+ / 0-)

      Deferment Dick -The Happy Torturer

      by Mr Magu on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 01:49:48 PM PDT

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    •  There are no non tea bagger Republicans (0+ / 0-)

      As near as I can tell.

      Scott Brown is joining in the filibuster along with the rest of them.

      The United States Senate has lost its political legitimacy and should be abolished.

      by TKLTKL94 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 02:14:46 PM PDT

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    •  You would be wrong (0+ / 0-)

      Mass voter here. Believe it or not, Coakley gets decent marks for her job as AG. I personally don't see it as she overzealously prosecuted some cases and when she lost those was too gun shy to charge the late convicted pedophile Father Geogehan years before he was ever brought to justice.

      I believe the diarist and others have a misunderstanding about the makeup of the electorate in the Bay State. Although Democrats have an enormous advantage registration wise in the Commonwealth, independents are the largest bloc of registered voters. Many of those Democrats are like Congressman Steven Lynch. Progressives are much less common in Mass. than people think — the "People's Republic of Cambridge notwithstanding.

      •  That's fine (0+ / 0-)

        It doesn't change the fact that a group of people who would elect Scott Brown expecting him to be different do not impress me with their intelligence, liberal, independent or psychopath.

        The United States Senate has lost its political legitimacy and should be abolished.

        by TKLTKL94 on Tue Sep 28, 2010 at 09:51:11 AM PDT

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  •  the independent is why (1+ / 0-)
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    Mr Magu

    Patrick loses more votes to Cahill than does Baker, probably because MA voters still see him as a Democrat.

    grok the "edku" -- edscan's "revelation", 21 January 2009

    by N in Seattle on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 12:35:01 PM PDT

    •  Actually (1+ / 0-)
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      N in Seattle

      According to polls, Cahill is taking more Baker votes - and a couple of Cahill's people(former McCain advisors) just quit because they said they didn't want to give Patrick the win.
      Cahill has really done better in the debates so far - but it doesn't seem to be getting him any further. Which makes me think, most people have already picked their guy.  So I'm hoping that Patrick holds on, but anything is possible.

  •  From what I've heard, (1+ / 0-)
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    TKLTKL94

    Deval Patrick ain't exactly a Jack Kennedy, either. He's better than Coakley, but Coakley had to have been the worst candidate of all time. From what I've heard Patrick has made something of a hash of the governorship, not to mention the fact that this is only a slightly better year to be governor than 2009.

    I would also like to remind you that right now, there is only one poll that actually matters: the one we hold on Election Day. So please, stop whining and start donating or calling or beating the pavement. Vote early and often. That's how these things are won, with knuckles sore from knocking on doors and worn out shoe-leather from walking to every house and apartment in the ward.

    •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

      But my point is, all the 'well it was a fluke' nonsense I hear about Scott Brown is just garbage.

      The United States Senate has lost its political legitimacy and should be abolished.

      by TKLTKL94 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 02:17:08 PM PDT

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      •  True indeed (1+ / 0-)
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        TKLTKL94

        It was more than a fluke, and less than a rejection of the entire platform of the Democratic Party (which I recall was how several pundits took it... you never did, but a bundle of people in the media did, which is really rather typical of them). The loss in Massachusetts needs to be analyzed for what it was: a loss of a seat that had been held by a Democrat for fifty-eight years and by the previous incumbent for forty-eight, in a special election in late winter/early spring. Other factors need to be taken into account, including the general incompetence of the Democratic nominee, the personal charm and charisma of the Republican nominee, and the presence of a Libertarian candidate that may (or may not) have attracted a large number of low-information voters based upon his name (seriously, Joseph Kennedy? Even a relatively informed person would have done a double take on that).

        I was much harder than I needed to be in my earlier statement, and I beg your pardon for that. What I was driving at was that I am tired of hearing the general chorus of gloom and doom pronunciations. That probably wasn't what you were going for, but it came off that way to me at first read.

  •  Patrick really deserves the win (0+ / 0-)

    He has really done a pretty good job as Governor.  For instance, MA is third in the country for job growth this year(unemployment is lower than a lot of states).  He has balanced the budget, and he is a hard worker who really wants the job(unlike bozo Romney).   But perception is everything, and a lot of people are hurting, so they are going to blame the incumbent.  Even though Baker is not a tea bagger, his plans include firing 5000 state employees. That should help the economy a whole lot. The rest of his platform? Taxes, taxes taxes because that is the answer to everything right?  Hopefully all the state employees come out to vote and people see through this nonsense.

    •  So you're saying that they're not dumb (0+ / 0-)

      Just hopelessly naive and dumb by being manipulated by the GOP into making this a competitive race?

      The United States Senate has lost its political legitimacy and should be abolished.

      by TKLTKL94 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 02:16:25 PM PDT

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  •  Do you spend your life hating Massachusetts? (0+ / 0-)

    Are you Martha Coakley's #1 Fan?  Are you Martha Coakley?

    Get over it. Coakley sucked...nothing will change that.

    A good candidate would have killed Brown.

    Baker has been shooting for the Governors office forever. He ran Harvard Pilgrim Healthcare - which is a large local corporation. He's been in the news forever. There is lots to run against him with, but he's a solid candidate (politically speaking, of course).  And, unfortunately, Patrick has not been the most popular Governor in Mass.

    That is why it is close.

    Let me guess the title of your next diary: Mass is dumb Mark 3.  I can't wait to point out once again that Coakley was begging to lose.  

    Deferment Dick -The Happy Torturer

    by Mr Magu on Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 01:48:37 PM PDT

  •  I guess it takes one to know one (0+ / 0-)
    •  If I'm dumb... (0+ / 0-)

      At least I'm not dumb enough to vote for a Republican.

      The United States Senate has lost its political legitimacy and should be abolished.

      by TKLTKL94 on Tue Sep 28, 2010 at 09:52:03 AM PDT

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