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I'm a reader. I've read tons of novels and non-fiction books in my lifetime.

At forty-seven, I have more than three thousand "dead tree books" in my personal library.

And I am on the verge of never reading another new "dead tree book".

Join me after the jump to find out why.

I will be purchasing a Kindle this week. Yeah, lots of people will hate the fact that I am bowing to the almighty corporation of Amazon, but I've been researching this for years now and am ready to make the jump. I am going to the Kindle over price, available library, and market share.

I don't make this move lightly,  but eBooks are better for the environment than dead tree books.

I won't stop purchasing new dead tree books, but my purchasing habits are about to be greatly curtailed.

I have been entering books that I want in eBook format into a wishlist on Amazon I have named "Kindle".

In two days I have already put together a list of over 350 pieces of fiction, most of which already exist in my current library.

I know that over the next few years, I will end up with more than 1000 titles in the Kindle I will be purchasing within the next week.

Why?

The Kindle utilizes so little electricity that putting my library in an eBook format means I have security (Amazon will always know what books I have) while minimizing my carbon footprint to have these books.

Furthermore, my wife and I will both have Kindles on the same account, so we will share all books with each other.

I am willing to pay a bit more for a book than the soft cover costs to be more eco-friendly in my reading, but most eBooks are cheaper than their soft cover counterparts. New books in eBook format are usually considerably cheaper than their hard cover brethren.

Now there are certain authors whom I consider beloved. As an example, R. A. Salvatore is one of my favorite authors and I have nearly everything he has written in my Kindle wish list. I also have most of this in my dead tree book library. The reason I am willing to purchase the collection again in eBook format is for the convenience factor. It's easier to read an eBook than to read an anthology of three novels.

I'll even go so far as to admit I will be willing to pat $14.99 for a new eBook and another $25.99 for the hard cover for certain authors. I'll never read the dead tree version as it will only be for obtaining a signature and adding it to my collection of thousands of dead tree books.

But there's another side to this.

I'll be incredibly open to purchasing that $2.99 novel that is only available in eBook format from a new author that isn't established than I will be to purchase a $6.99 eBook from an established author I have never read.

I am going to be more willing to give a new author a chance than to give an established author whom I've never read a chance, all because the new format drives the economics in that direction.

Overall, I love the idea and hope that before I die I go at least five years with never purchasing a single dead tree book, yet still reading my average of at least 250 books over that five years.

Originally posted to Walt starr on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 09:23 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (16+ / 0-)

    Supporting the Freedom of Religion and opposing the Park51 Mosque are mutually exclusive positions.

    by Walt starr on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 09:23:50 PM PDT

    •  No tips for sheep (2+ / 2-)
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      trashablanca, breakingranks
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      Walt starr, JG in MD

      Sorry to piss on your diary, Walt. No, check that. I'm not a damn bit sorry.

      By pimping for Amazon, you're helping to enrich that little anti-union prick, Jeff Bezos, who is helping lead the fight here in WA against Initiative 1098, which would (finally) institute a progressive income tax -- but only on high earners like Bezos.  

      Better for the environment, my ass! I can read e-books on my cell phone if the need arises.

      This diary is an embarrassment to Daily Kos. Simply an embarrassment. Shame on you and on any poor fool who recommended it. Shame on any Kossack who links to or patronizes this reactionary, monopolistic company.

      "Lash those traitors and conservatives with the pen of gall and wormwood. Let them feel -- no temporising!" - Andrew Jackson to Francis Preston Blair, 1835

      by Ivan on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 06:14:40 AM PDT

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      •  Troll rated. (0+ / 0-)

        Thanks for trolling my diary.

        Supporting the Freedom of Religion and opposing the Park51 Mosque are mutually exclusive positions.

        by Walt starr on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 08:24:10 AM PDT

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        •  No apology (2+ / 1-)
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          trashablanca, breakingranks
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          Walt starr

          You're pimping for a little right-wing prick, and apparently you're too dumb to know it.

          "Lash those traitors and conservatives with the pen of gall and wormwood. Let them feel -- no temporising!" - Andrew Jackson to Francis Preston Blair, 1835

          by Ivan on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 09:06:23 AM PDT

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          •  Another Troll rate (0+ / 0-)

            for ad hominems.

            Supporting the Freedom of Religion and opposing the Park51 Mosque are mutually exclusive positions.

            by Walt starr on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 09:27:31 AM PDT

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            •  It's poor form and immature to hydrate (1+ / 0-)
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              breakingranks

              in your own diaries. You really should remove them or you might wind up with a couple yourself, Walt.

              From the FAQ:

              To Troll Rate something has exactly one meaning. When you Troll Rate something, as a trusted user, you are stating that the comment should be made invisible to all site users. You're saying that the comment is so bad -- so disruptive or damaging to the community -- that it isn't worth even a debate, but should be deleted from the discussion as being simply inflammatory, simply off-topic, or simply a lie. Remember that, because that is the only use of the troll rating. It is an editorial vote to delete a comment from the conversation. Conversely, there is one particular reason troll ratings should never be used: to express disagreement with a poster's opinion.
              ...

                1. Do not troll rate people for expressing a contrary opinion, so long as it is expressed in a civilized fashion. The exceptions are for conservative talking points or debunked or false information; this isn't a site for conservatives, they have entire swaths of the internet in which they can regale each other with their reality-impaired fantasies.

                2. Do not troll rate someone you are actively having a fight with. If you are in a heated argument with someone, you should not be judging whether or not what they say is trollworthy. Leave it to others to decide what behavior is or isn't over the line.

                3. Do not give positive ratings to people having fights in the comment threads. It is insulting to a diarist to hijack a portion of their comment threads in order to have a fistfight between two or three users. It is insulting to the rest of the community to have to scroll past a fight dozens of comments long in order to get back to the topic at hand. If the fight is off topic or otherwise egregious, it should be trollrated in order to remove it from the thread, but there are almost no circumstances in which users should be rewarded for having a fight. Behavior like that isn't worth positive mojo -- don't do it.

                4. The exception to the normal troll rating golden rule of "rate the comment, not who makes it" is for people so disruptive to the community that they need to be quickly autobanned. This is a very difficult threshold to reach, and is reserved almost entirely for freepers or other trolls here only to disrupt. "Troll rate on sight" is not intended to be used against anyone but the most obvious and egregious of trolls -- if your definition of obvious and egregious is not the definition used by the rest of the community or by the site administrators, expect your rating ability to be suspended.

                5. Troll rate a trollworthy comment, regardless of who makes it. Everyone has bad judgment from time to time. Everyone can have a bad day. Even if the person who made the offensive or inflammatory comment is someone you know and respect, you still owe it to the diarist and the community to remove the comment. You can make it up to them later.

                6. Do note give retaliatory troll ratings. If you get what you believe to be an undeserved troll rating, do not retaliate. Leave it to others to decide if the rating was abusive. It is begrudging community practice to respond to an undeserved troll rating by troll rating the ratings abuser, thus reducing their own level of "trustedness" and making them less able to abuse ratings in the future. But don't do it unless you are absolutely positive the original rating was abusive -- and I mean 100% positive. And never do it if you're the one that got troll rated. I repeat: do not troll rate fights that you yourself are in.

                7. On the other hand, one troll rating does not matter. If you get troll rated by one person, know that you will continue to walk this earth. It's not the end of the world. Unless a second person rates the same comment (either with a recommend, or another troll rating), it doesn't even count. There's no point in complaining to the admins -- they already see every troll rating on the site, and do not usually yank ratings abilities based on one troll rating, or even one thread's worth of troll ratings. It's larger patterns that are more likely to require intervention.

                8. There isn't actually any site rule that says you can't quote hidden comments in order to make a point. You should still think carefully about doing it -- after all, they were hidden because we believe that they are so unrepresentative of the community as to be unworthy of display -- but there are valid reasons to bring them up, and it isn't against the rules to do so.

                9. Banned users are banned permanently -- they are not permitted to return under new names. This is true even if you are autobanned by the community, and even if it was "unfair" -- if you've garnered so much resentment during your time here that it reached that point, we're not going to bail you out. You're done. If you see a new user banned after they make only one or two comments, it's because they're users who have had previous accounts here and blew it the first time. We don't give second chances, and we check new users who seem to get into trouble. For that reason, you should consider your reputation here before getting into fights -- if people start thinking of you as someone who always gets into fights, they will begin trollrating you more and more frequently, and it will be very difficult to convince others of your goodwill. You are responsible for your behavior.

              "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John Lennon

              by trashablanca on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 10:09:50 AM PDT

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      •  My first instinct was the same (1+ / 0-)
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        trashablanca

        ...was that this was a paid shill diary. But I don't have any proof, and this guy has past DKos diaries, so I didn't say anything. At least one of the comments looks like astroturf, too.

        I'm balancing out the troll-rating because I think your intent is to to criticize, not to troll. I don't think I've ever seen a troll-rating given for something like this.

        Also it doesn't seem right for the diarist to do the troll-rating here: imagine if everyone just troll-rated negative comments on their own diary! I think there may be a rule about that somewhere?

        Anyway, if this isn't a shill diary, I hope the diarists considers that promoting a particular product can look that way, especially if it's for an online company with infinite social media campaign resources like Amazon.

        •  Troll ratings mean dick (0+ / 0-)

          It's just pixels on a screen, and it detracts from the real issue here. Amazon is a bad company, and its CEO is a bad person. The policies that he pursues are inimcal to what we profess to stand for.

          I don't give a RIP if laptop liberals find doing business with them to be convenient. It's a question of "which side are you on," and if people don't like my TONE, that's just too damn bad. I'm here to promote positive change, and not to nurture any individual's comfort zone.

          The diarist shouldn't think I'm picking on him alone. I give Kos, the front-pagers, and every other diarist merry hell every time I see a link to Amazon on these pages.

          Amazon is not our friend. The sooner people learn this, the fewer of these diaries we'll see.

          "Lash those traitors and conservatives with the pen of gall and wormwood. Let them feel -- no temporising!" - Andrew Jackson to Francis Preston Blair, 1835

          by Ivan on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 10:41:05 AM PDT

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        •  I get that you don't like Amazon (0+ / 0-)

          Big deal. You're free to hold that opinion.

          Many Kossacks use Amazon regularly. Intimating I am a paid shill for Amazon is insulting and quite frankly, trollish behavior.

          Click on the advertising link for Markos' book and get back to me.

          Supporting the Freedom of Religion and opposing the Park51 Mosque are mutually exclusive positions.

          by Walt starr on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 11:13:38 AM PDT

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  •  Trees can be replanted. (16+ / 0-)

    Toxic byproducts from computer related manufacturing (and batteries) are killing the environment. Some will stay around for decades or more.

    I'll stick with my real books thank you.

    No batteries required.

  •  I Love, Love Paper Books (13+ / 0-)

    and I am a tech geek of the highest order. But I love books. I also love my mechanical pencil (which I've had for almost ten years) and legal pad. No matter how hard I try to do everything on something electronic, I can't seem to get rid of those two "dead tree" things.

    With that said I had a "new" Kindle in my hot little hands the other day and I am pretty close to "pulling the trigger." It is a stunning little piece of hardware IMHO.

    But I have to admit, I get great joy just looking at a room in my house with 1,000 books ....

    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

    by webranding on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 09:31:21 PM PDT

    •  My library isn't going any where (4+ / 0-)

      and as I said, I will still purchase the occasional dead tree book from beloved authors.

      I usually purchase at least 100 books each year and that purchase history will be dramatically shifting to eBooks away from dead tree books. I freely admit, though, that I will still purchase some dead tree books as well as their eBook counterpart. Of the two purchases, the eBook will become standard while the dead tree book purchase will be rare.

      An example would be any R.A. Salvatore book, or any book in the Wild Cards series.

      Supporting the Freedom of Religion and opposing the Park51 Mosque are mutually exclusive positions.

      by Walt starr on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 09:35:13 PM PDT

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  •  About The Price Point (5+ / 0-)

    I've been on iTunes since almost day one. So when the store came out I was all over it. I don't even have any clue how much new music I've found, that I NEVER would have found, cause for .99 I could give it a try. If it sucked, oh well. But more times then not the music didn't suck and I bought the entire album.

    At some level I fear the same thing would happen with a Kindle. And it is far easier/faster to listen to music then read an entire book :).

    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

    by webranding on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 09:36:04 PM PDT

    •  Two price points for the most part (2+ / 0-)
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      webranding, belinda ridgewood

      Amazon tries to keep new books for the Kindle at $9.99, though many publishers balk at that and demand $14.99.

      I figure anything between the two price points is fair, depending upon the author. Most authors I would never consider a hard cover, but $9.99 for a new release would be worth it.

      Books that have been out a while are usually a bit cheaper in Kindle format than a paperback.

      As far as convenience goes, Kindle has it all over dead tree format.

      Supporting the Freedom of Religion and opposing the Park51 Mosque are mutually exclusive positions.

      by Walt starr on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 09:40:13 PM PDT

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  •  My Christmas present last year was (4+ / 0-)

    a Kindle. I absolutely love it. The battery lasts forever it seems if you turn off the WiFi and it only takes about 3 to 4 hours to recharge. I love to read in bed and it's so light and easy to handle. I have never regretted getting it one minute.

    "Take it back, take it back. Oh no you can't say that, all of my friends are not dead or in jail." John Prine

    by high uintas on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 09:56:41 PM PDT

  •  If you want some content for your gadget... (4+ / 0-)
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    BlogDog, kurt, kyril, belinda ridgewood

    'If you want to be a hero, well just follow me.' - J. Lennon

    by Clive all hat no horse Rodeo on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:05:33 PM PDT

  •  I'm gonna recommend, but I'm split on the idea... (3+ / 0-)

    As a travelling companion, a Kindle or other e-reader is a fantastic thing, and browsing an airport bookstore for reading ideas before downloading to your Kindle beats lugging a lump of wood around. But I love turning pages,too.

    If I'm at home kicking back, I wouldn't think to pick up my e-reader if I had a book lying around.

    'If you want to be a hero, well just follow me.' - J. Lennon

    by Clive all hat no horse Rodeo on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:12:12 PM PDT

  •  I think it's a good purchase overall (1+ / 0-)
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    kyril

    I love paper books, but I use the Kindle a lot for a couple of reasons:
    > If you travel, it eliminates the question of how many books you'll read on the plane or train or wherever. That's why I originally bought it.
    > For me, I need reading glasses to look at most normal-size print books for long, but you can enlarge the print on the Kindle as needed.
    > I just have no more freakin' space for books and I can't bear to get rid of them.

    I find that not every book I'm interested in is available for the Kindle, but you're right that public domain works are often very cheap or even free. I recently bought the complete works of Jane Austen for maybe two or three bucks.

    I also find that some books don't really lend themselves to Kindle reading. I like popular accounts of theoretical physics, for instance, which tend to have diagrams, and it's not as convenient to flip back and forth to each diagram on the Kindle as on paper pages. My mom reports reading a novel (don't recall which) where the first line of each chapter is embedded in a graphic, and therefore cannot be enlarged. Since this graphic is smaller on the Kindle screen than on the paper page, she's needing to keep a magnifier on hand to read the chapter openings. Just kind of strange wonky problems like that.

    I am still well satisfied with my purchase, though. Oh, plus, you can interactively do sudoku on it. I know you can get the Kindle reader app for various smartphones, but I don't really require a smartphone. If I could read email on the Kindle, I could often get by without a netbook; I can't, but I'm still happy with the Kindle. It does what it purports to do.

    What do we live for, if not to make life less difficult for each other? - George Eliot

    by belinda ridgewood on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:16:00 PM PDT

  •  I've (2+ / 0-)
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    Ophelia, kyril

    I've thought about getting one.  I might some day, but reading to me is just such a tactile experience.  I love the smell of books and the feel of paper on my fingers.  It would be convenient in a lot of ways, but I'm just not there yet.  Perhaps when my eyes begin to go.

    Currently Top Ten in Slate's Lean/Lock game!

    by greatdarkspot on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:25:54 PM PDT

  •  I worry about e-media books (0+ / 0-)

    How hard would it be to revise the copies everyone has in their e-reader?

    I'll keep my reference shelf intact.
    Digital information is still too transient (aside from the Google archives ;)

    There is too much good life left in those dead trees to end up in some recycler's pulping bath.

    Besides, what if the Internet goes down and I need to know how to make industrial glass? or paper?

    Philosophy is not the same on the glow of a screen and you can contend that with me for hours while your copy "runs out of ink".

    Unless the computer is reading to me, why imitate the original? Are batteries that much better?

    I am happy to be alive and trying to do my best to help out.

    by ToKnowWhy on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:32:43 PM PDT

    •  not all e-readers have the "memory hole" (0+ / 0-)

      feature like the Kindle does. The ability to implement this "feature" depends on continuous access to the Net and software that permits it. Most e-reader software is simply a viewer for a specific file format.

      I have no plans on ever buying a Kindle. I consider the memory hole a deliberately included bug, not a feature, and I carry enough consumer electronics, why add something simply to read books? Smartphones are good enough for that.

      I'm not especially worried about my copy of Collapse going away, I read Kindle format (I've only bought one Kindle e-book so far) using kindle reader software on my netbook or Blackberry.  AFAIK, there's no memory hole in the software for Kindle on other platforms. More to the point, if the software isn't running (I have other reader software, too), Amazon hasn't a lot to say about what's in my hardware.

      I like the netbook best for reading books, I prefer it to dead tree. The screen contrast works well for my eyesight.

      The biggest argument for e-books is storage space. I have 534 e-books so far. How many boxes of books is that when one wants to move?

      More to the point, if I've got my Blackberry and battery charge, I've got a wide choice of reading material. How many books can one physically carry at a time? And what if one is on a trip, only has one book and wants to read something else? That's happened to me quite a few times. But not now.

      Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

      by alizard on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:54:16 PM PDT

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  •  My mother-in-law (3+ / 0-)
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    is hinting for a Kindle -- now that the prices have come down, I'm thinking of talking the spouse into making that her Christmas gift (along with the vest I'm making for her, of course). For her, it's a question of disability -- she can no longer handle hardbacks especially when she's reading in bed because of her arthritis; her roommate when she was in a nursing center earlier this year had a Kindle, and she got the chance to hold it and found it was much easier for her. She can still handle paperbacks but it might not be long before those also become too difficult.

    I have several e-readers on my iPhone (which has been a life- and sanity-saver this year with juggling multiple issues surrounding my father-in-law's death and moving my mother-in-law to assisted living); the Kindle reader, Apple's iBooks, and Barnes & Noble's Nook. Each one gives me different options and book availability -- yet there are still some books that will never make it to ebook status, nor would I want them to, for example many of my crochet pattern books. And of course there are also older books that I enjoy but will likely never come out in ebook form. So for me it will likely be a combination of the formats, at least for the foreseeable future.

    "When it gets harder to love, love harder" -- Van Jones, NN10, 7/23/10

    by Cali Scribe on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:35:48 PM PDT

  •  Check for Digital Rights Management (5+ / 0-)
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    When I made my purchase last year - Kindle didn't support Digital Rights Management (DRM) software for virtual library borrowing.  So, if you want a book on your Kindle, buy it from Amazon.  No library interactivity allowed.

    I bought the Sony Reader instead - if you have a digitized local library, you can 'check out' books for three weeks and, poof, they disappear when they're 'due.'

    Strongly encourage you to consider the same.

    You couldn't load a pistol with dormitive virtue and shoot it into a breakfast-roll - CS Pierce

    by Mr Raymond Luxury Yacht on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 10:44:39 PM PDT

  •  I'll never buy a Kindle (4+ / 0-)
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    Ivan, djMikulec, G2geek, Louisiana 1976

    The economics aren't working yet for authors or publishers.

    Trees can be replanted. Lets give people jobs planting more trees! Over 20 years of personal computing showed the eco-futurists that people print out everything anyway - wasting even more paper as well as adding to the heaping slag piles of ELECTRONIC WASTE we foist on other countries.

    I also love books, and my personal library is in the thousands as well. I've been looking into the possibility of going to library school, but surprise surprise most library schools are closing down since dead tree books have become passe.

    Here's the problem: electronic media becomes obsolete. Dead tree books are the superior storage medium if you want to save the book for decades to come AND preserve all your marginal notes as well. I absolutely own my books and can sometimes resell them for more than I paid (though most are considered "devalued" for my massive annotations).

    I'm not a luddite. If I ever wrote a novel, I would probably publish it electronically just for the sake of being published, instead of hoping the Publishing World will pick me out to be their next superstar. I will just put my book in PDF format under a Creative Commons license and let people read it on whatever device they choose.

    There's really no need for Kindles.

    •  amen to that. (2+ / 0-)
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      Ivan, djMikulec

      David Brin (accomplished science fiction author) posted a diary earlier, where he mentioned that Kindle was going to pull all of the previous copies of one of his books and re-issue it with certain things fixed that were buggy in the original version.

      OK, that's nice, fix the bugs and replace the books.

      Uh, wait a minute.

      What if they decide they don't want to give you "your" "books" back?

      The potential for censorship and control is just enormous.  The potential for profiling people by their reading habits.  It's like the Patriot Act provisions for peeking at your public library card, without the benefit of librarians acting as ferocious guardians of the right to read.  

      So I'm with you on this:  put your published work up as PDF under a CC license, put a PayPal button next to it for voluntary payments, and let people read it on whatever device they wish, using whatever operating system they choose.  

      I have a major writing project in the works and when it's to the point where something is ready to go up, that's what I'm going to do.  

      Open source, self-production, open distribution, community support: the punk rock model applied to publishing.  

  •  decisions (0+ / 0-)

    Kindle vs. Nook. You mentioned it in passing, but since you mentioned doing a lot of research could you expand on how you made the choice of systems. (Perhaps you might have a link to 2 to articles that helped you)
    (There's also the recent iPad which Apple aficionados swear by).

    But I like the overall scheme you've settled on.
    You're keeping your 1000 old "friends", yet moving forward into the brave new world of eBooks.

    I, too, have a lots of paper books, but grudgingly realize I should enter the 21st century at some point...
    Thanks for the diary.

    •  I am choosing the Kindle due to viability (0+ / 0-)

      I don't see B&N being around five years from now.

      In fact, I expect them to go under within the next three years.

      Brick and mortar book stores are as obsolete as newspapers and magazines.

      Supporting the Freedom of Religion and opposing the Park51 Mosque are mutually exclusive positions.

      by Walt starr on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 04:45:35 AM PDT

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  •  Its not an either/or thing for me (0+ / 0-)

    I have a Kindle and it is filled with everything from William Gibson to Robert Reich (and Daily Kos)...

    That being said... I also collect Thomas Pynchon books, newsletters, journals and source material... of which there is practically NONE of available for the Kindle...

    So I say keep both. Be happy. Read more. :)

  •  I've got the Kindle and I love the thing (0+ / 0-)

    Two small things that annoy me. First, it is almost impossible to just open to a random page and start reading. Maybe I'm strange, but I enjoy doing that with my old textbooks and some other non-fiction.

    The other thing is having an author sign the book. Currently, I'm reading American Taliban. Will kos really sign my kindle?

    Other than that, It's great. I downloaded Roxana Saberi's book before she was even done talking to Jon Stewart.

  •  Books never run out of charge (3+ / 0-)
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    G2geek, M Sullivan, Louisiana 1976

    and they don't break when you drop them.

    There are very nifty features in e-books, I am sure. I have digital editions of a number of technical and reference books on my computer that allow me to do quick searches. But I will always like paper books for their portability and sturdiness.

    A non volitile storage medium.
    http://www.youtube.com/...

  •  My eyes aren't what they used to be... (0+ / 0-)

    can you adjust the font size so the text is larger like on a computer. To me that would be the major advantage of a kindle over a regular dead tree book. At least for those of us with failing eyesight.

    "We are a Plutocracy, we ought to face it. We need, desperately, to find new ways to hear independent voices & points of view" Ramsey Clark, US AG

    by Mr SeeMore on Sun Oct 10, 2010 at 11:32:44 PM PDT

  •  you don't need no steenkin' Kindle... (0+ / 0-)

    that Amazon can yank your books back off of...

    anyway, you can read perfectly fine on a plain little old iPod.  which we are doing.  

    we are keeping most hardbacks we already have and replacing as many of our paperback-only's as possible, because that lower quality paper is getting REALLY old!  

    luckily, most of our really old stuff is science fiction, and one of the biggest SF publishers, Baen, has put TONS of their older backlist on-line for FREE download.

    We are also planning to keep children's books and survival/reference titles in dead-tree, but the mass of our "slow fire" stuff is going, as fast as possible.  

    "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

    by chimene on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 12:06:07 AM PDT

  •  Congratulations (1+ / 0-)
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    kyril

    You will love your Kindle.

    I bought my first one a month after they came out and paid the full $399. It was worth every penny then and I can honestly say I never regretted it.

    I recently purchased the K3 when they were released and am extremely happy with it (and my son-in-law was happy to inherit my K1). I do love the "read to me" feature on it for when I am driving.

    Don't forget to visit the websites that monitor free books: booksontheknob, manybooks, smashwords, baen ect.

    Like many readers I have a few thousand books stored in boxes and I expected to continue buying DTBs, but the reality is I haven't purchased another DTB in over 3 years now.

  •  My major issue with Kindle is solved (0+ / 0-)

    At some point, if I have a Kindle, it will die, crash, or otherwise become a paperweight. When Kindle books were only readable on Kindle devices, I found the idea of buying a Kindle version of a book I actually intended to keep unthinkable. What if Amazon stopped manufacturing them? It also bothered me that I wouldn't be able to lend a Kindle book without lending my Kindle device.

    But now there's Kindle for PC (and for my Android), which solves both of those issues. If my device dies, I'll still have my library. And if I want to "lend" a book, I can authorize someone's computer temporarily and then deauthorize it when they're done.

    I'm still bothered by the permanent tie to Amazon, which for all I know might not exist in 10 years. But I've nevertheless bought a couple of Kindle books for my computer/phone, and have considered buying an actual Kindle at some point.

  •  Right now, I limp by reading with a laptop. (0+ / 0-)

    What I really want is a 10" slate computer (Android 2.2) that has an E-Ink screen. This describes the Notion Ink Adam that should be released in a couple of months. This will allow me to comfortably read, surf, and do light computing - just what I want.

    I voted with my feet. Good Bye and Good Luck America!!

    by shann on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 03:30:44 AM PDT

  •  Hidden costs to paper books as well... (2+ / 0-)
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    BlogDog, Mrs M

    tens of thousands of books will have their covers ripped off in a practice called strip and return. Bookstores over-purchase titles, and those that don't sell, have their covers stripped and returned to the publisher for credit. The 'de-covered' book is thrown away -- legally HAS to be thrown away. So you have thousands upon thousands of books destroyed in this way every year. At the bookstore I worked at when I was younger, we would destroy on average 3 books for every 1 that sold, and we only carried more popular authors like Grisham, King, etc.

    The whole process is incredibly wasteful.

    Another option is Print on Demand.  For those who still love books (as i do) and want to have minimal impact, P.O.D. is the way to go.

    "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" Voltaire.

    by JWK on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 03:36:32 AM PDT

  •  Huh? (0+ / 0-)

    The Kindle utilizes so little electricity that putting my library in an eBook format means I have security

    Until Amazon decides you shouldn't have the book anymore, at which point they have the power to remotely delete the book.

    Other reasons I'll never go to exclusively e-books:

    I can't write in an e-book like I can in a dead-tree book.

    I can't lend (or give) a treasured e-book to a friend. Sharing or selling used e-books can't be done.

    I like being surrounded by dead tree books.

    What have you done for DC statehood today? Call your Rep and Senators and demand action.

    by mistersite on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 04:48:51 AM PDT

  •  Libraries (0+ / 0-)

    There are some books I want to own and normally buy paper copies.

    However, for the most part, I don't really need to own the book, I just need to read the book. I borrow lots of paper books from my local library, but my favorite media are audiobooks.

    Who didn't enjoy having books read to them when they were kids? I know I enjoyed it then, and still do.

    Downloadable audiobooks from the library are especially convenient and the environmental impact of my Apple Nano has to be small compared to a stack of books or even a Kindle.

    iPod nano embodies Apple’s continuing environmental progress. It is designed with the following features to reduce environmental impact:

       * Arsenic-free display glass
       * BFR-free
       * Mercury-free
       * PVC-free
       * Recyclable aluminum enclosure
       * Smaller, more compact packaging (45% smaller, 46% lighter)

    Low light or even no light conditions are not a problem with an audiobook. I can also "read" a book while commuting.

    "Cannibals prefer those who have no spines." ~ Stanislaw Lem

    by BlogDog on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 05:06:25 AM PDT

  •  My enthusiasm has been "kindled"... (0+ / 0-)

    I was pretty hesitant about laying out that much money to read books already in/soon to be in my nearby public library; BUT...poor health has made library visits an ordeal, and my Kindle has been a joy to use !

  •  Wow I have been thinking of a Kindle (0+ / 0-)

    Now Im going to read the comments, but so far Im inspired to make the purchase.

  •  REMEMBER MICROFILM? (0+ / 0-)

    That was supposed to replace paper books.  You carry you reader around and insert microfilms of yor favorite volumes.  Much less space consuming, saves paper, everybody's happy.  HA HA HA

  •  Best use for ebook - College texts, video embeds, (0+ / 0-)

    ability to highlight and hypertext.

    Religion and science don't have to be hostile to each other, but we can stop setting them up on blind dates.

    by the fan man on Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 06:41:39 AM PDT

  •  hmmm (0+ / 0-)

    I don't have an ereader although I think I would love one because of a number of issues:

    Amazon can remotely remove content - read translate - We pay money for content and a corporation can at any time decide we don't get to have it or can modify the contents at their will.  I don't trust them not to change their licensing rules at any time rendering my book collection - gone.  I read a lot of controversial stuff.  I am primarily concerned about digital book banning or worse modification.

    I cannot lend them nor trade them like paperbackswap.com - which means I have to pay for everything I would read (although the fact that there are free sites is interesting - didn't know that)

    I work in IT and having a database go south or disappear is not unusual considering how many servers I maintain.  You were in the middle of reading the latest Harry Potter? and something happens that removes the content even temporarily (oh.so.sorry) - cannot happen with a paper book.

    As other commentators mentioned - I will always have paper books - might get an ereader when they get open source - not tied to a company or an agenda

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