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Yes, we're headed down that road again. Of the more than 9 million Americans surviving on unemployment benefit checks these days, 5 million depend on federal extensions of those benefits because they've been out of work for so long. But the extensions passed in July - for the third time - are set to expire Nov. 30. And Congress only has from Nov. 15 when members return from the campaign recess until Nov. 19 when they go on Thanksgiving recess to do something about it.

If it takes anywhere near as long to get the votes to pass the extensions as it did last time - 50 days - a million workers could be cut off from this meager but crucial life-line between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Still more come the new year. There are no indications that Republicans and deficit hawks among the Democrats will make passing the extensions any easier than last time. We'll be treated to another round of tedious imprecations about how the jobless get lazy on their average $310 weekly benefits checks and how the budget just can't handle additional stress. The usual delaying tactics will be employed. In the Senate, that means more filibuster threats and the usual foot-dragging by the usual knuckle-draggers.

That's why the UnemployedWorkers.org is gearing up now to prepare the way for that fight. A project of the National Employment Law Project, it is urging everyone to sign its petition to Congress on benefit extensions, pass the word to friends and political allies and offer feedback on its newly retooled web site. The site operates both to organize and as an information source, with fact sheets on the jobs crisis, links to and critiques of national and regional unemployment news and tracking of the weekly jobless claims data.

“Congress took seven weeks to reauthorize the extensions when benefits expired last June, and in that time more than two million unemployed Americans and their families lost their jobless benefits. With UnemployedWorkers.org, we intend to prevent any cut offs or lapses this November by partnering with mobilized workers, supporters and other advocates to put unemployment insurance at the top of Congress’ to-do list when it reconvenes,” said Chris Owens, NELP Executive Director.

If you've been out of touch for a while and are unfamiliar with the debate over benefit extensions, Unemployed Workers has produced a new video. Thrill to Sen. Orrin Hatch saying, "You know, we should not be giving cash to people who, who basically are just going to go and blow it on drugs."

Chris Owens has it right: "The statement that extending benefits is keeping people from working, making them lazy, etc., I think it is insulting and infuriating." But it also should be energizing to activists who are sick of seeing hard-working-if-they-could-find-work Americans being on the receiving end of yet another round of class warfare.  

Ultimately, unemployment insurance needs to be reengineered so that in times of need, out-of-work people aren't subject to Congressional whim and temporary extensions of this lifeline. But right now we've got a rematch on extensions coming our way. Please sign the petition.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:30 AM PDT.

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  •  Only positive thing I see (6+ / 0-)
    is this President could veto an extension of the Bush Tax Cuts - all of them including middle class tax cuts if GOP will not allow separation on the ligislation (there shoudlbe two seperate bills - one for middle class tax cuts and one for the Rich but GOP wants to hold middle hostage)

    I've think Obama has lost his way and will probably end up giving the Rich more money which they will then invest overseas in their so-called "emerging markets"

  •  There is a debate here? WTF? (9+ / 0-)

    The net worth of the less than 60 richest New Yorkers has recently spiked by $19 billion dollars.

    If Obama extends the tax cuts to this group of Americans, he has failed the rest of us.  It's that's simple.

  •  Class Warfare... (5+ / 0-)

    As if America had any class.  

    We've become the boorish uncle that everyone hates at Thanksgiving.

    Now whoa whoa whoa right there spinach chin!

    by Borg Warner on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:44:45 AM PDT

  •  Congress back in session NOW to vote on this (6+ / 0-)

    let the people see who cares about them and who doesn't give a thought to them

    shown on 60 Minutes: El Lid prez runs over 2 Palestinian kids in Jerusalem. 80% of success is just showing up

    by Churchill on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:45:06 AM PDT

  •  My 59 year old brother is still unemployed, (8+ / 0-)

    and now he has learned that he must upgrade his sewer system to the tune of $10,000.

    Massive direct hire jobs program, industrial policy, please, Mr. President.

  •  The Mid-Terms result will influence this (9+ / 0-)

    If the Republicans win seats it will be the first opportunity for all those who want to kill 'entitlement' programs to put their money where their mouth is. I really can't see these extensions being passed. This alas is what we have to look forward to unless we vote in 2 weeks. It's not just an election, its survival.

  •  Democrats and Progressives just don't get it. (4+ / 0-)
    Don't they realize that this is a government of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich?

    I mean, how clear does it have to be?  Haven't the rich been in charge of running things (usually into the ground) since Day One?  And blaming those who stand in their way for any and all trouble that happens.

    Why can't (poor) people just STFU and let the rich run things and stop whining about their "rights" to the pursuit of happiness -- where did they ever get that idea from?  Besides, it's for the rich, who always know best, to decide what degree of happiness should be given to everyone.

    This is the dog-whistle rhetoric the rightwing is using, courtesy of groups like The Family, who fully intend that America return to its eighteenth-century white male property-owning elitist rule.

  •  Wow. What an effective video. (4+ / 0-)

    I wish I could make everyone in America sit down and watch that. I understand that the thought of so many on unemployment benefits is highly uncomfortable, but what on earth is the alternative? Throwing millions of decent Americans out on the street?

    To keep our faces turned toward change, and behave as free spirits in the presence of fate, that is strength undefeatable--Helen Keller

    by kareylou on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:46:15 AM PDT

  •  someone should change the display frame for (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Boston to Salem, Churchill

    the video.  Great clip, but seeing that repulsive, hateful creature doesn't exactly make me want to push play.

  •  I have my doubts about (0+ / 0-)

    getting an extension this time.

    Meet the real Patrick Leahy, he aspires to be the next Christopher Dodd

    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:46:55 AM PDT

  •  Scrooge couldn't top that. (0+ / 0-)

    Not only would it cause unimaginable grief for those whose benefits run out but it would impact retailers too. All of that money goes out as fast as it comes in.  

    And with foreclosures already overwhelming the system why exacerbate the problem?

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:47:10 AM PDT

    •  Retailers are in trouble anyway (2+ / 0-)
      Most retailers take out loans to buy the merchandise they sell, especially over the holidays. If they can't get loans, they don't have as much merchandise to sell, especially the "latest and greatest" hot sellers.

      A friend's wife is a manager at a high-end retailer. She says that they're being given lots of grief over getting the loans again this year. Last year was bad enough, but this year it could be catastrophic for most retailers (except Wal-Mart, of course, which hardly needs loans for merchandise...).

      Add that to the economic stress on the employed-and-fearful and the unemployed that are denied an extension of UE...

      "Ridicule may lawfully be employed where reason has no hope of success." -7.75/-6.05

      by QuestionAuthority on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 09:12:14 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Wish they could make the point in 1 minute (2+ / 0-)
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    Meteor Blades, wishingwell

    The people who most need to see that video won't watch it for 5 minutes. It's terrific. I'd love to see an edited version that could be used as 1 minute ad.

    "Another day, another dolor." by don't know who.

    by parker parrot on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:47:31 AM PDT

  •  Hear that you lazy bums? (6+ / 0-)

    Stop not having a job. Our unemployment wouldn't be so high if you unemployed people were employed!

    I, for one, blame the unemployed.

  •  Petition signed (5+ / 0-)

    and forwarded to (many)others.
    Thank you Meteor Blades!

  •  Rush, How the hell are we going to pay for them? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    wishingwell

    while he earns 20 million a year brainwashing people.

    shown on 60 Minutes: El Lid prez runs over 2 Palestinian kids in Jerusalem. 80% of success is just showing up

    by Churchill on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:52:47 AM PDT

  •  We cannot allow Congress to let unemployed (4+ / 0-)

    workers get cut-off from these essential benefit programs -- especially around the holidays!

    I'll second Meteor Blades' motion:

    Please sign the petition!

    And thanks, MB, for putting this upcoming fight front and center.

    Not Ideas about the Thing but the Thing Itself - Wallace Stevens

    by catchlightning on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:53:01 AM PDT

  •  The Really Sad Bit... (2+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, melpomene1

    is when I hear working and middle class people talking about the unemployed being lazy and not wanting to work.  It's like a bizaare combination of  considering themselves to be the elite because they working and blaming the unemployed for not working.

    The other day my company had a stupid all-employee meeting which was supposed to be a kick-off for United Way fundraising.  It quickly devolved into a "make sure you vote so that our taxes don't go up on things like unemployment insurance and healthcare."  Needless to say, I left, but most of the zombies sat there listening to this crap.

  •  They'll do everything they can... (4+ / 0-)

    ...to make the Obama administration look ineffectual and incompetent. If that includes people starving during the holiday season around which this nation builds so much commercial and ecclesiastical fervor, well what's it to the GOP? They've got their warmth, their turkeys and their cranberries. Isn't that what it's all about?

    And Santa just keeps right on flyin if you're a whiner, so buck up.

    -5.38 -4.72 T. "...a mosque that rejects radicalism is not a symbol of the enemy's victory; it is a prerequisite for our own." Michael Gerson

    by trevzb on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:54:44 AM PDT

  •  Know the details of the bills (4+ / 0-)

    There is a bill introduced by Rep. Shelly Berkeley to extend the benefits of the 99ers.  That bill only applies to states with an unemployment rate above 10%.  States like WA would be ineligible.  Make sure your Congressional Representatives are aware of the percentages in the bills they are considering.  Try to talk to them personally while they are campaigning, as the staffs of these people are often not detail oriented.

    •  EUC benefits are in tiers (0+ / 0-)

      You are right, states with lower unemployment don't qualify for the entire 53 weeks of EUC benefits. It is broken up into four tiers, the first being 20 weeks. I would guess in a state like Washington, we would not get 99 weeks, but possibly 90 or 80 weeks total. Unless congress acts, fat chance, my benefits will be 76 weeks total.

      As for the EUC tiers, as far as I know, you will get to exhaust whatever EUC tier you are on when the extension expires at Thanksgiving. But you won't be able to move onto the next EUC tier, but will move to the final piece, which is Extended Benefits.

      For reference, most states have the initial 26 weeks of unemployment insurance. Congress voted to put in place the EUC benefits because of high unemployment. This is 53 weeks maximum. After this, you get the final 20 weeks of extended benefits. As far as I know, this fight is only about the EUC benefits in the middle.

      Unemployment benefits is actually one of the highest bang for the buck forms of stimulation because almost all the money going out goes right back into the economy. Tax cuts for millionaires by comparison go sit in a savings program somewhere, not stimulating the economy at all.

      Make no mistake about it, republicans are petty vindictive little shits.

      Everything I write is within a margin of error of precisely 100%.

      by Bailey Savings and Loan on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 11:50:35 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  We need a jobs program, not unemployment (5+ / 0-)

    I know we can't get a jobs program in time, but we need to start making the argument that hiring people at the unemployment cost would be a free program.  Everytime we extend unemployment, we need to make that argument for a CCC style jobs program.

  •  Best Post Yet (1+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell

    We need to all gather our forces and concentrate or retaliate if Democrats don't extend jobless benefits for the unemployed masses. If they can stimulate the wall street, as if it was one giant clitoris. Than they should be able to stimulate there blue collar base. Or what is left of the blue collar base. We should be up in arms and start mobilizing for this NOW! Just like the tea baggers aka crazies are doing. We need to wage a hard protest around the country so that unemployment benefits continue to be extended. We have to write about it, in every blog, article, post, over over the web. This is our battlefield and we have to win our war. We have the upper hand Americans are using the web more often for there information instead of there main stream media. We have to work tirelessly to achieve are goals. To make sure Democrats continue to extend benefits until a real shift happens in our economy. Until we see a clear decrease from the current 9.6 percent unemployment rate.

    On another note DemocracyNow.org had reported that government agency has now been monitoring Daily kos, Facebook, and other social networking sites. The objective is to find any information they can find that can be against federal laws. In that case they will use any form of intimidation or suppression to silence dissent. Just look at "Wikileaks" which had to take it's site because of a financial economic warfare to silence them. Heads Up!!        

  •  Just to make sure the unemployed end up homeless (0+ / 0-)

    ....let's also allow those who are really wallowing at the public trough do this to them.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Just think of how much money they'll make when we privatize Medicare.

    Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

    by Sirenus on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:56:07 AM PDT

  •  Signed. Thanks for the link. nt (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    melpomene1, catchlightning

    "In all chaos there is a cosmos, in all disorder, a secret order." Carl Jung

    by Unduna on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:56:18 AM PDT

  •  HR4213 (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Meteor Blades, melpomene1

    is the bill to continue the current extension program.  That is also the bill under consideration in the Senate Finance committee.  Call the Senate finance committee (Go to http://www.senate.gov and click on Committees and then Finance and then Contact) and stress the importance of this bill.  Baucus is the chair and his office should be called.

  •  Republican triage: (0+ / 0-)

    they've decided anyone unemployed for x amount of time isn't worth the pittance to save.  All that's lacking is a dickensian quote about "surplus population".

    I also recommend "Hard Times" for its description of the reaction to government...something to the effect that the industrialists would always claim they'd have no choice but to close their factories and push them into the sea if they had to pay taxes.

    Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

    by Inland on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:58:55 AM PDT

  •  Germany (3+ / 0-)

    Germany handles this much differently--I believe they pay 30% of the salary to companies to keep their employees on the job.  Seems a more humane way to go.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 06:59:12 AM PDT

  •  Stabenow bill for the 99ers (2+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, melpomene1

    The Stabenow bill to extend the benefits of the 99ers isn't even on the table in the Senate Finance Committee.  That is another important issue.

  •  The argument that it's making people "lazy" (7+ / 0-)

    might have more credibility if, you know, there were actually jobs out there.

    Or are these people supposed to start their own businesses from scrach? From what? It's not like anyone can probably get much, if any, credit to do that, especially if they're unemployed.

    •  Unfortunately, it's true... (0+ / 0-)

      in SOME cases.  My daughter has a friend who's been out of work for over a year and refuses to take a job that pays less than $40,000.  Meanwhile, she's working her ass off for barely more than minimum wage.  You can bet she resents that a lot.  

      Unemployment should be a sliding scale, after 6 months it should start decreasing.  Yes, the economy sucks and work is hard to find, but at some point you gotta get off the couch and contribute.

      I realize not everyone is milking the system, but some are, and they're really pissing off the rest of us.

      •  False (0+ / 0-)

        The counter argument is that while people are unemployed they can use that money to pay their internate bill. So they can apply online to jobs, or buy the proper close they need for a job interview. It can be simple things and shoes, a hair cut etc these simple things. If the money is cut of your putting a whole population dead lock for the economy. That would mean the slowing down of an economic recovery. No improvement for workers to get back into the economy. A simple thing as being able to buy a news paper etc. To find out job listing etc these are the things that people should take into account. Many of American blue collar workers don't have those wealthy family members. So you think about this, no money you have more welfare. More welfare would just slow down the economy. At least with sound money you circulating the money. It continues the pace of business owners. It continues the improvement of many other things. That late payment, to a local business store. You decide to pull the life line the economy will tank at a faster pace, you will see the obvious higher crime rates in ever inner city. Everyone needs to travel from one location to the other. No funds, no money, no travel no job! You think about your argument but it seems you have little sense of what is reality.  

        •  Huh? (0+ / 0-)

          I didn't advocate for cutting off unemployment, but for phased reductions so that after a year or so recipients are willing to at least look at minimum wage jobs.  Paying able bodied people more to sit on their assess than people who are working is crazy.

          I don't think unemployed people should have no money, but they should have less than people who are working full time.

  •  Signed. Americans having to beg politicians (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    eeff, proud2Bliberal, melpomene1

    for their unemployment benefits is Dickensian. Both parties deserve blame for that.

    As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he ever were to break wind in the echo chamber, he would never hear the end of it. --Bulwer-Lytton Contest entry

    by Wom Bat on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 07:01:15 AM PDT

  •  Yes, it needs extending. However, (8+ / 0-)

    I wish they would do something else, like a jobs program.

    I have been out of work since January 2007, and I get no benefits at all.

    They need to do something for ALL of us who are out of work, not just part of them.

    The rest of us have already been just swept under the rug.

    Personally, I am not destitute, though far from well off. But I live with my kids, who pay for everything for me. If I get really sick or have a catastrophic accident, there is no money to pay for care. I can't contribute to the economy because I have zero income. It sucks to not be able to even have a candy bar without asking someone to buy it for me -- after a lifetime of being the breadwinner in a four-person family.

    We need a damn jobs program, and we needed it last year.

    Either that, or start sending checks to everyone out of work. Why should only some people be getting them? By now, the 99'ers have long exhausted any money they and their former employers paid in.

    It's time to get serious about job creation, or get fair about re-distributing wealth.

    "The difference between the right word and the almost-right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug." -- Mark Twain

    by Brooke In Seattle on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 07:01:31 AM PDT

  •  Do something about age discrimination (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    wishingwell, barbwires, rhonan, melpomene1

    I find the arguments about the deficit to be disingenuous because they aren't taking action on the things that are deficit neutral.  It wouldn't affect the deficit to pass stronger laws against age discrimination or even mandate recruitment and retention of older workers.

    •  Funny you should mention that... (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Meteor Blades, proud2Bliberal

      Ever notice how the long-term unemployed tend to have a far higher percentage of older workers?  Between age bias, and the blatant discrimination against the unemployed in hiring, it is no wonder some people can't get any of the few jobs that pass their way.  I was lucky, and found one before my benefits ran out, but only by a couple of weeks.

      In college I majored in politics and played with computers. Now I work with computers and make politics a hobby.

      by rhonan on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 10:38:12 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Unemployment insurance is the single most (7+ / 0-)

    effective way to stimulate the economy, bar none.  The unemployed will spend all of their checks, stimulating the economy to the maximum effect of the money they recieve, while those earning over $250,000 typically save their tax cuts.  Why is it so difficult to give a helping hand to the unemployed when we know it benefits local businesses, and provides economic security for the rest of us?

    •  Extending a helping hand does not mean (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      proud2Bliberal, snozberry pie

      handing out money for nothing.  If we're going to extend monetary benefits than those who can work should be given work.  There's plenty of work to be done in this country.  If FDR was President, that's what he would do.  Everyone would benefit, and the Rethugs woulddn't be able to say a thing.

  •  Senate Finance Committee (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Meteor Blades, eeff, wishingwell

    Here is the problem.  The Senate Finance Committee has 12 Democrats and 9 Republicans, so they need one Republican to get 60% of the committee.  And some of the Democrats, like Nelson, are deficit hawks.  So we have to concentrate on getting people to call in states that have a Senator on the finance committee.  

  •  This will be a delightful christmas present (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Dartagnan, proud2Bliberal

    for any unemployed teabaggers out there, if Republicans indeed control the House, because they'll get a very clear example of why "no difference between the two parties" is a bullshit right-wing meme.

    •  see...they should get unemployment (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      steve davis

      because they're not lazy. Just unlucky.  Only the lazy ones shouldn't get checks, which consists of everyone but themselves

    •  Story about unemployed teabaggers (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      wishingwell, steve davis

      On an IT industry blog I read a post by an unemployed IT workers who went to a Tea Party meeting.  He reported that everyone at the meeting was unemployed and very angry.  He said that an MD was running the meeting and spoke about tax cuts and fewer regulations.  He said that all of the attendees booed at him.  Don't assume that the Tea Party has its act together.  The author of the article said he was considering getting a gun as his next step.  The group was persuading him not to resort to weapons.  I advised him that next time he is looking for a politician to align with, try Howard Dean and not the tea party.

  •  Some people divorced reality a long time ago (3+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, barbwires, OnlyZuul

    Take my aunt--a nice Christian woman who lives in Texas.  Goes to church every time they open the door.  She told us that people are unemployed because "they don't want to work."  Every unemployed person I know wants to work!  There are no JOBS!  But my aunt probably watches Fox News, so she doesn't know anything.

    Recently I was reading a quarterly magazine for investors of a certain well-known mutual fund organization.  One article suggested that, to make one's retirement benefits last longer, one should work until age 70.

    I immediately e-mailed the magazine editor, telling him or her how I've always loved to read fairy tales, both as a child and as an adult, and this article satisfied my need for fantasy perfectly.  AS IF anyone can "choose" to work until 70 nowadays!  People are lucky if they don't get handed a pink slip on their 50th birthday.

    From what I read on this blog, I have the impression if you get laid off in your 30s or 40s you may find a job eventually.  If you're over 50, you never will.  It's an outrage.

    Yes, I'm het, but I'm NOT a Mad Hetter!

    by Diana in NoVa on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 07:10:40 AM PDT

    •  yeah, if you're alive and somehwat healthy (0+ / 0-)

      at 70, maybe you can work. A lot of people don't even live to 70. A quick look at the obits will reveal that. I've seen any number of coworkers pass on before retirement, and I work in the public sector where, at present, where you can still retire early. And a good chunk of people will be disabled completely before retiring. Seen a lot of that too.

  •  We are Shareholders too (0+ / 0-)

    We all paid taxes, so we do have a voice at the Government decision table. Our voices outnumber those voices buying up the Government to do it's bidding.

    Inspire someone to vote for Democrats in 2012. If we double our voting population, we will continue defecting Citizens United.

    Look forward to peaceful solutions

  •  Ask Social Services Agencies to write (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    wishingwell, divineorder, melpomene1

    Ask local Social Services agencies to write to the Congressmen because letters from such agencies have clout.

  •  Rethugs don't care. (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    wishingwell, sockpuppet, Proleft

    They are against the 3 things that are keeping this economy completely out of the ditch. They are against permanently extending unemployment benefits, they are against creating millions of green jobs and they are against a federal minimum wage which are good jobs that are the basis of President Obama's economic recovery plan. Without unemployment benefits, federal minimum wage jobs and green jobs, our economy will not stay on the right track.

  •  Unemployed individuals receiving benefits (0+ / 0-)
    from the taxpayer should be made to work on projects benefiting all of us.  There aren't going to be any 'good' jobs available for quite some time, if ever, and people need to work to have self-esteem.  So, put people that can work to work.  There's lots to be done.
  •  29,000 H1-Bs costs govt $43 million per month (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    rick, trevzb, melpomene1

    one company has 29,000 H1-B workers.  So the unemployment for 29,000 displaced software and IT professionals is about $43 million per month.  Multiply that by 12 and you see how one company hiring 29,000 H1-B workers costs the government half a billion a year.  Put that in the deficit analysis.

  •  The End To benefits?! (0+ / 0-)

    Would just mean more people on welfare than previously. So if the argument of the republicans is that assisting the unemployed. Than it would just mean that the people unemployed will take longer for the economy to recover. Because when you think about it people will go on welfare. So if we look at the reports, there has been an increase on recipients who are on welfare. That number will spike, if unemployment benefits aren't extended. Which will in turn will take the American economy to rebound. The sound money on the other hand will allow the current flow, to loosen credit. And also allow Americans to continue to keep afloat small businesses. Which is also really important for the economy to regain momentum. No flow of money will only mean a larger loss on the unemployment and an increase on government hand outs. After that all you have is a Revolution on your hands.

  •  After food stamps unemployment (0+ / 0-)

    benefits stimulates the economy more than any other government action including all of the Bush tax cuts. The deficit hawks must be exposed as the frauds they really are. Tax cuts don't create jobs but do increase deficits big time.

  •  People! (0+ / 0-)

    You see that share word on the article? Share it every where spread the word about this. We have to alert the masses! It is peril that we win on the battlefield, we can not retreat! No surrender! All out warfare, everywhere! We need to diversify operations, in jobs post pamphlets, we need PDF files for posters on this issue! Lets get to moving! We need emails sent to representatives, phone calls every activist from Green Peace, ALF, and every other front to join the ranks! We need all our resources influence and power. If we lose that battle we lost our war before it can begin! That means if we need some civil unrest, and if we need to break some tail lights of some police car. By any means necessary our objects are clear! Extend Benefits until unemployment is slashed and more jobs are created. Go to trains and drop them of in every train station. Before riders can get on them. Spread the information to friends family ext. Make sure everyone joins your ranks. Salutes'

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  •  Don't let the Republican Stooges steal Christmas. (1+ / 0-)
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       Vote for Democrats.

    Keep The Keys...GOTVote and Vote for Dems.

    by reddbierd on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 08:13:17 AM PDT

  •  Nice page make-up, boss (2+ / 0-)
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    This,

    Thrill to Sen. Orrin Hatch saying, "You know, we should not be giving cash to people who, who basically are just going to go and blow it on drugs."

    immediately followed by a picture of Limbaugh.

    < big smile >

    One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries.--A.A. Milne

    by Mnemosyne on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 08:15:51 AM PDT

  •  Just a reminder-small business people, partners (2+ / 0-)
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    with nominal "ownership" in their company (whether worth something now, or not) have NO 'unemployment' insurance at all. Must use their savings if they had any--to include cashing in IRAs with big penalties--mortgage or sell anything else. And when that's all gone, they're just out of luck. Great way to treat the nation's celebrated entrepreneurs.

    Extending unemployment insurance beyond 2 years, for employees of big companies is a good thing, I suppose, BUT not a panacea. Does not solve no-income problems for all the unemployed and underemployed hanging on by their fingernails, living on air in this Great Recession.  

    Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

    by Catskill Julie on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 08:17:29 AM PDT

    •  Unemployed entrepreneurs (0+ / 0-)
      "Just a reminder-small business people, partners with nominal "ownership" in their company (whether worth something now, or not) have NO 'unemployment' insurance at all. Must use their savings if they had any--to include cashing in IRAs with big penalties--mortgage or sell anything else. And when that's all gone, they're just out of luck. Great way to treat the nation's celebrated entrepreneurs."

      I hear ya.  Our residential remodeling company here in Northern California, while lucratively successful in all the decades we've been in business, has been basically out of work since October 2008.  No kiddin'.  Our work stopped abruptly at the same time the economy crashed.

      We've watched all of our savings dwindle to critical lows.  How we weathered this white-knuckled period is almost a mystery even to us, looking back on it.

      However, I'm much relieved to say that one day in mid-September, the phone started to ring and it hasn't stopped.  We've gotten way more work than we can handle.  We're now gonna be okay through next winter.  It'll be such a relief to watch all the coffers rise again, after such a drought.  And it's great to be putting other folks back to work, as well.

      But we've learned some hard lessons during this period.  We're well aware the drought could return at any time after the next election.  

      I agree, it would be very helpful if companies like ours would allow the principals to have a UIB safety net.  But all those currently on UIB or who have expended their coverage limits need the support now.  How could we possibly let millions of Americans just twist in a "survival of the fittest" downward spiral?  How cynical is that?!

    •  what if they "pay" themselves a salary? (0+ / 0-)

      does that matter? was wondering that, as I know people who own businesses who paid themselves along with their employees, with all the deductions and whatnot.

      •  In my research of this issue, the (0+ / 0-)

        fact that one had "ownership" negated the UI, even though they had paid salaries with all normal deductions, including UI. So they were not eligible to draw anything at all. On top, they had gone without drawing any salary for many months, loaning personal savings to keep the company afloat and continue paying group health insurance.

        Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

        by Catskill Julie on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 10:19:17 PM PDT

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  •  Unemployment (1+ / 0-)
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    Well, we get back at the bailout for wall street gangsters and no bail out for main street. Your back at stage one, with the argument on small businesses. That's why this is the start of our battlefield and the unemployment should include that if you owned a small business and where forced to close that business. Than yes your entitled to receive unemployment benefits as well.  

    Also going back to the unemployment congress needs to clear violations and felonies, misdemeanors for people who have had past records so that they could get employed. There have been people who can't get back to work because they are placed at a disadvantage. For crimes they have committed 10 to 15 years ago.   Congress needs to change this for people who where working got unemployed and now there old records are affecting them in the job market.

  •  Thanks for frontpaging this (2+ / 0-)
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    The jobless are today's swing vote.

    You're doing it wrong.

    by Jewlicious on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 09:09:47 AM PDT

  •  I don't know what is more sickening (1+ / 0-)
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    Republicans calling everyone on unemployment benefits hardcore drug users, the Congress getting a month off, working only 5 days, then going on another month-long vacation, or the Democrats blithely saying "Oh don't worry, people will read all the appropriate literature and not be swayed by smear ads"........it's all too unreal.
    I know I am living in a historical moment, on the cusp of a significant era of a nation transforming its destiny. Though that future is the corruption of America into a money-greedy war-waging despotism wearing a mask of fraudulent democracy I'm somewhat awed by the massive forces at work, mesmerized by the huge repercussions they will have through this century, not only for the US but the world. Isn't it a glorious feeling?

    Living in the spaces between the boxes other people are thinking inside of...

    by fourthcornerman on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 10:43:27 AM PDT

  •  When I was on unemployment, I wanted to work (1+ / 0-)
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    so bad I took an IRS tax season "intermittent" job even though it paid no more than what I was making in unemployment. I was unemployed November 1999 - March 2000, and underemployed for seven more months. In October 2000 I finally landed a decent job after nearly a year of precarious living.

    But I wanted a job. It breaks my heart to think about the people who have been unemployed more than a year.

    For relevant sci-fi and fantasy, go to http://www.betty-cross-author.net/

    by Kimball Cross on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 11:00:23 AM PDT

    •  Cost of Living (1+ / 0-)
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      Your cost of living most be really simple. I mean you most live with a significant other. Or have no children because to get a job which is under paid and can survive the constant downward spiral of current wages compared to high living cost. Your the Man! Man. I mean you a super hero. I want to call you Unemployed Super Hero. Gosh o might lets get them. Pow! Yeah that's exactly what millions of Americans are saying at the moment. POW! But without the costumes and fancy artistic drive. They have what they have in front of them. That bills, family, and a jobless, let me repeat that again a jobless "recovery". Cough* (In my mind) (Sounds like bullshit to me) and Cough*

      •  I was single, thank God. (0+ / 0-)

        I could never have supported any children in the situation I was in. Once I got a decent job, my credit card debt was so bad I had to raid my IRA to pay it off. Then I had to go into debt again to pay the penalty for prematurely withdrawing part of my IRA.

        For relevant sci-fi and fantasy, go to http://www.betty-cross-author.net/

        by Kimball Cross on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 02:19:40 PM PDT

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  •  $310 / week??? (0+ / 0-)

    As long as you pay people not to work, that's just exactly what most people will do - not work. Let's face it, $310 per week is a pretty cool gig for doing nothing. It's not laziness - it's common sense. The Dems are buying 9.7% unemployment with money the American people don't have. This house of cards is gonna collapse sooner or later and we can only hope it collapses sooner for the Democrats than it does for the country.

    •  The American People (0+ / 0-)

      Don't have it your right but the Rich sure do. So you want to cut the big deficit. How about the Rich cut down on those big o.d salaries. With a couple of Rich people we round up, I bet you we can reduce our deficit. But than you got these Ivy League little gang bangers. Who want to talk about putting the weight on the American People. That's just disgusting and I know you. So don't try to bring that pain game to me.

  •  "Pinata" tax on Citi and JPMorgan would work (1+ / 0-)
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    It is clear how the extension of benefits and retraining can be funded, from today's NY Times:

    Citigroup Earns $2.2 Billion in Quarter
    By ERIC DASH
    Published: October 18, 2010

    Two years after Citigroup became the poster child for all that went wrong in the financial system, the banking giant announced Monday that it had pumped out a profit for the third consecutive quarter. At a time when the home foreclosure practices are under acute scrutiny, Citigroup said that losses across its consumer lending businesses were starting to ease.

    . . . . .

    Citigroup, which is trying to extricate itself from partial government ownership, reported a net profit of $2.2 billion in the third quarter — a figure that topped most analysts’ expectations. The gains partly reflected the fact that Citigroup released $2 billion that had been set aside to cover loan losses.
    The results followed a big gain in quarterly profit at JPMorgan Chase and suggest that banking businesses linked to American consumers are finally starting to stabilize. Other big banks are expected to report similarly strong results in coming days, despite a weakening in traditional Wall Street businesses.
    . . . . .

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/19/business/19citi.html?_r=1&hp

    • Remember a few weeks ago when slick investment banker/commentator Anthony Scarmucci on the John Harwood townhall show  (http://www.scribd.com/doc/37814131/President-Obama-s-townhall-with-CNBC-John-Harwood-Septembe r-20-2010)
    whined that he and his buddies on Wall Street were like Pinata's and complained that the President was beating them with a stick.

    The President and the D commentators should have scorched Scarmucci and his ilk, for continuing to rip off the public---millions of small town investors, retirees, etc.

    Now is not too late to insist that Citi and JP Morgan Chase now pay for the funding of unemployment and retraining benefits for those who continue to suffer most from the greed and escapades of Wall Street.

    If you want a quick and full review of the conduct of JP Morgan and others, I suggest the book Fool's Gold by Gillian Tett, of the Financial Times.  It is very readable, from a very knowledgeable reporter and lays it all out.

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