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Tea Party favorite and nominal leader of the Nitwit Revolution Rand Paul accuses Jack Conway of "bearing false witness" against him in his new television ad.  I don't think that phrase means what Rand Paul thinks it means.

You see, Rand, "bearing false witness" is a fancy way to say lying.  Making a statement that is not true.  I know you're familiar with the concept.  Like when you say you've never supported higher Medicare deductibles, when you really have.  That's a lie.  So you might say you were "bearing false witness" on that issue.

So, when Jack Conway says you were part of a group that mocked Christianity and the Bible, that's actually not "bearing false witness."  Because it's true.  And when he says you participated in kidnapping a woman, tying her up, and making her bow before the idol of your god "Aqua Buddha," well, that's also not "bearing false witness."  Because that, too, actually happened.  From a recent GQ article:

The strangest episode of Paul's time at Baylor occurred one afternoon in 1983 (although memories about all of these events are understandably a bit hazy, so the date might be slightly off), when he and a NoZe brother paid a visit to a female student who was one of Paul's teammates on the Baylor swim team. According to this woman, who requested anonymity because of her current job as a clinical psychologist, "He and Randy came to my house, they knocked on my door, and then they blindfolded me, tied me up, and put me in their car. They took me to their apartment and tried to force me to take bong hits. They'd been smoking pot." After the woman refused to smoke with them, Paul and his friend put her back in their car and drove to the countryside outside of Waco, where they stopped near a creek. "They told me their god was 'Aqua Buddha' and that I needed to bow down and worship him," the woman recalls. "They blindfolded me and made me bow down to 'Aqua Buddha' in the creek. I had to say, 'I worship you Aqua Buddha, I worship you.' At Baylor, there were people actively going around trying to save you and we had to go to chapel, so worshiping idols was a big no-no."

Oh, those crazy college days, eh?

Now, I can sympathize with you, Rand.  I really can.  I'm not exactly what you'd call a Christianity enthusiast either.  And you are running for office in the Bible Belt, after all.  People in those parts probably don't take kindly to academic elites making fun of their faith.  I bet the Tea Party doesn't either.  So I can understand why you'd say you had "Christ in your heart."  Even if you really only have Washington on your mind.

So who's bearing false witness now?

Originally posted to Jon Stafford on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 06:46 AM PDT.

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  •  All hail Aqua-Buddha!" NT (7+ / 0-)

    "Ridicule may lawfully be employed where reason has no hope of success." -7.75/-6.05

    by QuestionAuthority on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 06:50:11 AM PDT

  •  AHHH so that is what AQUA BUDDHA is (8+ / 0-)

    Rand Paul smoked pot?  ok lets keep that part quiet lest he, a certifiable nutjob, be used as an example of why pot should remain illegal.  

    "can you please continue the petty bickering...I find it most intriguing" DATA

    by KnotIookin on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 06:58:21 AM PDT

  •  Just a college prank, sort of like the guy who (13+ / 0-)

    did a video taping of the poor soul who jumped to his death from the G.W. bridge. Many of us do very foolish things in college, but most of the time, they don't involve injuring others. Perhaps this was simply a college prank by Rand Paul and his friends, but a prank like this one is a direct reflection on his character. The very same charater that is on display today, with his "I have mine, the hell with those who don't" attitude. If Mr. Paul was such a devout Christian, he would understand, that "we are all our brother and sister's keeper, and what you do for the least of us, you do for me". I am afraid, he is just another convenient Christian, one who claims to be Christian, when it suits him politically. We don't need another one of those in Washington, we have far too many there already, and we had one in the W.H. for 8 years. People like this need to be kept away from the seat of power.

    •  He should "man up" (8+ / 0-)

      Hell, even if he admitted doing these things and just said, "Hey, look, I was a stupid college kid," I might have some small modicum of respect for him.  I still wouldn't want to see him in the senate, mind you...

      "We must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom." - Kodos

      by Jon Stafford on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 07:05:46 AM PDT

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      •  You beat me to it (2+ / 0-)
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        I did a lot of stupid things in college that I wouldn't want to judged by now.  Just admitting it, saying he was foolish, but he's grown since then and realizes he was being foolish would matter a lot.  Otherwise this looks like the old "he doth protest too much" type of thing.

      •  Good point, the party that is so hell bent (5+ / 0-)

        on telling everyone else to "man up", avoids manning up themselves. The rules don't apply to them, even the rules they make.
        I have been thinking long and hard about this tea party movement, and trying to find something positive. I think I finally did. With the array of candidates they have presented to America, Paul, Angle, Buck, O'Donnell, Paladino,Miller and others, they have made it clear to America that you don't have to  be qualifed, have good morals, or any of the other virtues we seek in our leaders to run for office, you just have to have money behind you and a willingness to make an ass of yourself, and lie your ass off to win an election and a spot on the ballot. It expose our brand of politics for exactly what it has turned into. The founding Fathers are clearly turning over in their graves. What ever happened to honor, integrity and competence? I imagine it all went out the windown, when John McCain slected Palin for V.P., she is the embodiement of all these flaws.

    •  oh silly, havent we ALL done things... (7+ / 0-)

      in our college days or misspent youth?

      Kidnapping and tying a woman up?

      Uh, no.

      Blood sacrifice on a satanic altar on a first date?


      Dress up in full SS Nazi regalia for battle re-enactments?

      Not that one either. Not even for Halloween. And I did some mad ass whacky H'weens in the 80's.

      I feel so sheltered and naiive now, and I had been rather proud of my misspent youth up until now.


      "Thunder is good, thunder is impressive; but it is lightning that does all the work." ~Mark Twain

      by Lady Libertine on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 07:25:50 AM PDT

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  •  While I'm all for our political leaders (6+ / 0-)

    being "Normal Joes" and having a range of experiences during their youth, I also prefer they have a sense of decency.  Even in my most drunk or high state in my youth, I NEVER kidnapped anyone.  And I don't know anyone else that did either.

    There are way too many good people in the world to settle for this mean-spirited a-hole in our government.

    Drop out, Rand.  You're not fit for office.

  •  Unfortunately, (4+ / 0-)

    though true, the whole story was wildly misleading. The so called kidnapped woman went willingly, knowing it was a prank. Yeah, Kentuckians love their religion but they won't call this blasphemy. They will call it trumped up nonsense and they will be right.

    Sorrty, but this time our guy messed up. People do a lot of really silly things in college and this was one of them and everybody knows it now and Conway knew it when he approved the ad.

    I am sick over it as this is going to hurt Conway more than it hurts Rand Paul. We know Rand Paul is foolish. Now it appears both of them are foolish. Damn.

    Conway had everything going for him and he still screwed up. I thought he was smarter than this.

    I hope he can overcome this dumb move.

    Proud Obama cheerleader since 2008.

    by kpardue on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 07:07:47 AM PDT

    •  Is the ad still running? (0+ / 0-)

      Considering the timing of the ad, I wonder if it wasn't just to trigger a response in the debate, which it did.  And Paul looked kind of whiney because of it.  If that was the purpose and the ad is no longer running, then I have a slightly different view of it, though I still thought it was stupid.

    •  Hey, turnabout is fair play (0+ / 0-)

      If the roles were reversed the GOP would have been all over this story like stink on excrement.  Is it college silliness?  Of course it is.  But the fact that they're willing to poo-poo it, when they would be making a federal case out of it if it were a democrat who had done those things, only serves to underscore their hypocrisy.

      It would be nice to win the Kentucky senate seat.  But if I'm being honest with myself, it probably won't happen.  That's a shame, but it was a Republican held seat anyway, so at least it's not a net loss.  If there can't be a Democrat in there, I'd rather it be Rand Paul than a more "mainstream" Republican, because every idiotic utterance that comes out of his mouth will make them look that much worse.

      "We must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom." - Kodos

      by Jon Stafford on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 07:15:37 AM PDT

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      •  In my opinion, (0+ / 0-)

        Coons made the right decision and took the high road when dealing with O'Donnell.

        Now she has made a complete and utter fool of herself, and on air.

        Coons knows the Constitution. O'Donnell knows squat. That's how you do it.

        When both sides play the silly game the voters throw up their hands and say, "My God, they are all nuts," and that's a no win for the country.

        Coons played it exactly right. Conway over reached.

        Proud Obama cheerleader since 2008.

        by kpardue on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 10:25:15 AM PDT

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        •  But there's a big difference (0+ / 0-)

          Coons is 20 points ahead in the polls.  Almost from the moment O'Donnell got the nomination, it looked like there was never any realistic chance she was going to win.  Also, the outrageous things she says work against her in Delaware, a moderate state.  So Coons can afford to take the high road.

          Conway, on the other hand, has usually been down in the polls, although there have been a few that were neck and neck.  And Rand Paul's outrageous statements, while they offend more rational people, seem to be perfectly acceptable to a large swath of voters in deeply Red Kentucky.

          Besides, the Republicans have no qualms whatsoever about playing these kinds of cards.  If they can dish it out they'd better be able to take it.

          "We must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom." - Kodos

          by Jon Stafford on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 10:34:53 AM PDT

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          •  A difference (0+ / 0-)

            in the polls is not enough reason to muddy the waters with more silliness.

            It's not a question of what the republicans need to be able to take. We are not trying to get the tea party vote. We are trying to get democrats and independents to vote.

            Proud Obama cheerleader since 2008.

            by kpardue on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 11:24:51 AM PDT

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            •  True (0+ / 0-)

              But if we can suppress some of his support, so much the better.

              Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but I kind of think of that seat as a lost cause, anyway.  A Democrat in Kentucky was going to have an uphill battle at the best of times.  So if we're going to go down, I say we go down swinging.

              "We must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom." - Kodos

              by Jon Stafford on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 11:50:56 AM PDT

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  •  Rand your freak show supporters (3+ / 0-)
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    Bash Obama every day.  First his Christian Pastor until the media made Obama denounce him.  Once he did that, your freak show supporters started up the Muslim meme.  You on the other had actually did the stuff Conway points out.  I am sick of you cretin's playing the victim.  You are scum to the core.  

    "When they burn books, in the end they will burn people."--Heinrich Heine (German Poet)

    by Paddy999 on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 07:15:10 AM PDT

  •  Kentucky voter have no clue (0+ / 0-)

    what this TV ads about, I've asked some if they knew what Jack was talking about. they thought it was just religion

    "I want to be in Kentucky when the end of the world comes, because it's always 20 years behind" -Mark Twain

    by vet on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 07:33:19 AM PDT

  •  Aqua Buddha (1+ / 0-)
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    This ad has the distinct odor of desperation-something which I think he does not need to do to beat "babydoc" Ryan.

  •  "False witness?" (4+ / 0-)

    Who fucking talks like that?!

    "Give to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." - Robert G. Ingersoll

    by Apost8 on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 07:48:57 AM PDT

  •  If Conway really wins... (0+ / 0-)

    I might convert to Agua Buddhism...I'm not really sure he needed to reach back with the WayBack Machine, but I don't know this electorate either so I don't mean to criticize, and it's not like I care what Howard Fineman thinks(sorry, Keith, but like Arianna, he is generally a cue to think about posting something on my website, or whether I want dessert.)

    "You have three friends in your life: God, your Mama, and the Democratic Party. And I'm not so sure about your Mama." --Alan Grayson

    by chicating on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 08:07:24 AM PDT

  •  Rand Paul is inchoherent at best, a psychopath at (2+ / 0-)
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    his political thinking, such as it is, seems completely incoherent: e.g. he detests "government", but wants a Medicare reimbursement to physicians increased.

    Paul's extreme "property rights" orientation is a legitimate political opinion -- but one about as far from both the letter and the spirit of "Christian principles as one can be.

    "Liar" seems like a label that could be accurately applied to the man;  but "self-serving narcissistic" seems nearer to the mark -- my sense is that he doesn't know, and doesn't want to know, when he's contradicting himself, or whether his statements are untrue.

  •  conway did a good job flushing paul out the media (1+ / 0-)
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    did not like it .. chris mathews tried to discredit conway but paul is just extreme as odonnell the other mad hatter

  •  How Rand Paul could have deflected this (1+ / 0-)
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    "I did some crazy stuff in college.  The kidnapping thing was staged, it was a hazing prank.  No I don't worship any stupid ``Aqua Buddha'', that was the name we gave to a bong."

    I mean jeez, everyone voting for him is doing it out of spite of Democrats anyway, who the hell would he actually alienate with that?

    But nope, Rand's gotta be Rand and humorlessly moralize to the last.  Oh well if it sinks him so much the better.

    You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts.

    by sproingie on Tue Oct 19, 2010 at 08:57:33 AM PDT

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