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President Obama, yesterday, saying that after taking office he was too focused on getting results:

In that obsessive focus on policy, I neglected some things that matter a lot to people, and rightly so: maintaining a bipartisan tone in Washington; dealing with practices like earmarks that are wasteful at a time where everybody else is tightening their belts; making sure that the policy decisions that I made were fully debated with the American people and that I was getting out of Washington and spending more time shaping public opinion and being in a conversation with the American people about why I was making the choices I was making.

So I think, moving forward, I'm going to redouble my efforts to go back to some of those first principles. And the fact that we are out of crisis -- although still, obviously, in a difficult time -- I think will give me the capacity to do that.

As kos argued on Thursday in relation to the deficit commission, this kind of too-cute-by-half posturing doesn't make Obama seem reasonable, it makes him seem weak -- and provokes headlines like this:

Obama Blames Himself for Tone in Washington

Just 20 days after his inauguration, with Republicans trying to block his stimulus bill, President Obama refused to acknowledge that he had underestimated how hard it would be to change the way Washington works.

But as the president returned home on Sunday to face an even more rigidly divided capital city, Mr. Obama went even further: he blamed himself for the failure to do what he had repeatedly promised: to change the tone.

He said his own “obsessive” focus on implementing the right policies had led him to ignore a part of the reason voters handed him a mandate in 2008.

“I neglected some things that matter a lot to people, and rightly so: maintaining a bipartisan tone in Washington,” he told reporters in a brief question-and-answer session aboard Air Force One as he returned from a 10-day trip abroad. “I’m going to redouble my efforts to go back to some of those first principles,” he promised.

Instead of embracing political strategies that validate the criticism of his political opponents, President Obama should be touting his accomplishments and pushing to achieve even more. If he really believes that he's done the right things as president, he shouldn't be begging forgiveness -- especially not from people who will never give it to him.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:00 AM PST.

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  •  Obama's apologea is phony anyway (22+ / 0-)

    When someone says: "I was too focused on solving all these problems and getting results, that I forgot to communicate that to the voters," he's oblivuious to the real problem.

    •  The thing I think is bizarre (1+ / 0-)
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      about some of the more earnest defenses of Obama's first two years is that media voices like Rachel Maddow, Bill Maher -- both of whom I respect -- basically say to people, "but... Democrats passed all this stuff. How could voters not have noticed?"

      But the problem is, if the underlying fundamentals aren't changing -- if people don't see change in their own lives, their kitchen table concerns -- then people aren't going to live vicariously through the Democrats' legislative record.

      Whether fairly or not, Obama is on the hook for the unemployment rate, and all the advertising and marketing in the world will not turn the Democrats' two years of legislative accomplishments into a substitute for that high unemployment rate.

      So when Maddown or Maher express bafflement that the average voter isn't delirious with excitement about the Democrats' passage of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, I want to ask them: in what way is this knowledge supposed to make people feel better about their inablility to pay the rent, or to put food on the table?

      Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of nonthought. -- Milan Kundera

      by Dale on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 11:32:27 AM PST

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      •  All the stuff he passed was too timid... (0+ / 0-)

        None of it went far enough.  That is a big reason why no one really noticed a change.  Is there anyone out there who really expects anything to change for the better from the new health care law?  I certainly don't.  Putting a name on a bill and passing it doesn't matter if the bill is too weak to make a substantial difference.  

        Don't like XOM and OPEC? What have YOU done to reduce your oil consumption? Hot air does NOT constitute a renewable resource!

        by Asak on Tue Nov 16, 2010 at 12:31:21 AM PST

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  •  I can't stand it (27+ / 0-)

    He blames himself for failing maintain a bipartisan tone in Washington?

    My God, if this man had had Gen. Eisenhower's job, we'd all be speaking German.

  •  What Obama is responsible for... (15+ / 0-)

    is for behaving in a manner that indicated a belief Republicans were acting in good faith. Bipartisanship is all nice and dandy, but only if the other side is actually willing to work with you. Obama should have realized sooner that the GOP strategy was the Party of NO! and accordingly just worked with Democrats to pass the agenda he and congressional Democrats were elected to enact.

    Congress shall make no law...

    by Mets102 on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:03:29 AM PST

    •  If a dumbass like me in BFE can figure that out (7+ / 0-)

      WTF is wrong with him if he can't figure that out.  Hell, they even openly flaunt it!

      Kissing Republican ass gave Obama a Boehner.

      by The Dead Man on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:20:15 AM PST

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    •  Realized? (6+ / 0-)

      The Republicans came out and basically said that they were going to attempt to block every single thing that Obama and the Democrats wanted to do in January of 2008.  They stated this clearly and then followed up by not voting for the stimulus package.

      Why does everyone have such a hard time believing that Republicans will go to the very most extreme edge of political gamesmanship every time?

      •  But the problem is that the Dems (4+ / 0-)

        especially in the form of Harry Reid and Barack Obama let them. Political gamesmanship, even extreme gamesmanship is nothing new in Washington; it is in fact as old as the nation. This in spite of the fact the the Administration apologists keep acting as if this all just started two years ago.

        Part of the job description for the President, Majority Leader and Speaker is to at least try out game the other side. Pelosi was pretty good at this. Unfortunately, neither Reid nor Obama had her back.

      •  And it took him 20 months (1+ / 0-)
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        to publicly state, to Jon Stewart no less, that we need filibuster reform.

        To some degree it matters who's in office, but it matters more how much pressure they're under from the public. -- Noam Chomsky

        by just some lurker guy on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:46:43 AM PST

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        •  You won't be happy with filibuster reform (1+ / 0-)
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          after the 2012 election if it doesn't go the Democrat's way in that election.

          That filibuster was the only thing between us and the end of this democracy a few times during the Bush era.

          In fact, it could have and should have been used a few more times than it was.

          The reality is that Reid had other options on big debate issues.  He just wasn't willing to use them.  And we had some members of our caucus who were not sufficiently punished for going against the party.

          •  Speaking of filibuster (0+ / 0-)

            I wondered and maybe someone who knows how it works better if the following scenario is possible.

            Now with the margins so thin in the Senate, but still many DINO's there (Lieberman, Baucus, Nelson, Landrieu, Pryor etc) would it be possible for republican legislation to get through while the majority party (technically speaking) would need to use a filibuster to stop it now?

            "Children are our most valuable natural resource." -- Herbert Hoover

            by emal on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:32:12 AM PST

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          •  I will be happy with filibuster reform (2+ / 0-)
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            it's called democracy and accountability.

            Kind of hard to have both when a 40-seat minority can block everything.

            And newsflash -- do you actually think that Manchin and the rest of our Red state senators will vote to filibuster ANYTHING the GOP puts forth?

    •  Obama... (8+ / 0-)

      What Obama is responsible for... is for behaving in a manner that indicated a belief Republicans were acting in good faith.

      Yes. And this indicates Obama is capable of holding onto irrational beliefs without self-correction for a very long time.

      His bipartisanism fetish hurts everyone.

      •  His bipartisian fetish (0+ / 0-)

        is the result of his establishment fetish. He genuienly believes that neoliberal economics and neoconservative foreign policy is the best of all possible worlds, and he circulates in groups that believe the same thing.

        His true ideology is promoting the interests of the elite, and he's perfectly fine pursuing that ideology with Republican help.

        Every politician in America is sounding like that mayor in Jaws. -global citizen

        by James Kresnik on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 03:43:21 PM PST

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      •  He drank his own koolaid on bipartisanship. (1+ / 0-)
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        The hungry judges soon the sentence sign, And wretches hang, that jurymen may dine.

        by magnetics on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 04:35:08 PM PST

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    •  Don't sing Kumbaya at a knife fight. (0+ / 0-)

      That's why I did (and do) support Hillary: she knew what the 'thugs were, and what to expect of them.

      The hungry judges soon the sentence sign, And wretches hang, that jurymen may dine.

      by magnetics on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 04:33:47 PM PST

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  •  How does the coach of the Detroit lions "market" (11+ / 0-)

    ...the team in such a way as to make people believe that it is a playoff contender rather than a putrid frachise with a terrible won/loss record?

    Marketing doesn't trump reality.

  •  Seriously. I give up. (17+ / 0-)

    Done.

    Don't tell me what you believe. Tell me what you do and I will tell you what you believe. h/t MeteorBlades

    by mdmslle on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:04:03 AM PST

    •  We shall see (13+ / 0-)

      If Obama caves on Social Security there will have to be a new place to go, the Democrats will be done.

      Maybe a new real Party would be fun to join.  Maybe.

      •  Nope. I'm already done. (12+ / 0-)

        why?

        Because the only hope for this country is for him to decide to get public and vocal.

        Nothing of value will be passed for the next two years. We know this. The economy will be worse in two years because if it.

        The only hope we have of preventing a teabagger president and congress (including the senate) in 2012 is for Obama to do this:

        "hey America! I'm pushing congress this week to extend unemployment. Call you congressmen and let them know how to vote."

        Then: "oh! Hey America. It's me again and I have bad news. The republicans voted down the UI extension. So it's going to end on such and such a date."

        Repeat this with every thing out there.

        Corpoations who ship jobs overseas.
        Social security.
        A jobs bill.
        Another jobs bill.
        A third jobs bill.

        Being public and vocal is the only way people will be able to see why they're hurting worse two years from now. Otherwise the dems get blamed and we end up with Sarah as president and the worst most extreme legislature in history.

        If he goes loud and public, the GOP might even feel pressure.
        But he's not going to do this.

        But i know he won't do anything like this

        Don't tell me what you believe. Tell me what you do and I will tell you what you believe. h/t MeteorBlades

        by mdmslle on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:17:44 AM PST

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        •  What Atrios said... (7+ / 0-)

          On Nov. 2, could anyone fill in the blank of this sentence: If you return Democrats to power, they will _______.

          Or, at least: If you return Democrats to power, they will try to ____.

          I couldn't, and I pay attention.

          Atrios  11/12/10

          Why I am ticked at Obama.  You can act one way when when your opponent is rational, acting in good faith, and trying, by and large, to achieve the same ends you are.  That is always my Plan A. But when your opponent is irrational and acting in bad faith and/or with a completely different agenda, you have to go to Plan B - Step One of which is to grab control with both hands and take what you want.  Step Two of which is cut their feet off and shove them down their throat.

          Why I am ticked at all of us.  We elected a smart guy and then left him to take care of things.  That was our Plan A and it didn't work.  We need a Plan B.  And IMHO that has to start with a simple clear coherent message.  You could train a moron to say "Lower Taxes...Smaller Government...No Regulation" and they have. Lots of them. That's the problem.

          What do we have to counter that?  What six words sum up what we want? Hell, ask us to fill in Atrios' blanks and every single one of us would come up with something different...and none of us in six words.

          Until that changes, it is going to be an uphill battle every election.

          Give me government-run healthcare over Wall Street-run healthcare anyday...

          by trillian on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:47:56 AM PST

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          •  we could try this: JOBS. one word everyone (1+ / 0-)
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            GETS

            we could start there.

            in fact, that's all that matters, if you ask me.

            We need to create JOBS. Period.

            If people see that Dems are creating jobs, suddenly we become the REAL party f the working class rather than just sort of mushily saying it.

            So, JOBS.

            Elect dems and bring JOBS back to America.

            fact is the time for that today is over. We had congress and now we dont. no jobs bills will be passed in the next two years. So the only think left to do is publicly and loudly show the public all the SHIT the GOP votes down that COULD have helped them. Get house dems to write up a bill for, say, jobs or unemployment extension. Let Obama announce that there's a vote on a jobs bill coming up. Let the house vote on it. Watch it lose. Let Obama announce that the vote failed because republicans voted against it. Do that every three fucking months with a new jobs bill. Let Obama KEEP having to tell Americans that the GOP keeps voting down the bills. Hammer it. And do it again with a housing foreclosure bill. And a middle class tax bill. And a unemployment extension bill. And a bill to tax companies with manufacturing plants in other countries. Hammer hammer hammer.

            Will it happen? Doesn't look likely.

            Don't tell me what you believe. Tell me what you do and I will tell you what you believe. h/t MeteorBlades

            by mdmslle on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:04:21 AM PST

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        •  Sorry; I'm in line ahead of you. (0+ / 0-)

          The hungry judges soon the sentence sign, And wretches hang, that jurymen may dine.

          by magnetics on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 04:40:00 PM PST

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      •  Keep moving the goal posts for him and (6+ / 0-)

        pretty soon you'll be out of the stadium.  This has gone way to far already.  If he's still singing this old tune after all that has happened, he is hopeless.  Maybe he'll get it and stage a come back, but I wouldn't bet on it.

        The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

        by accumbens on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:43:28 AM PST

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  •  how much more bipartisan could he have been?? (33+ / 0-)

    Seriously, there is some sort of masochistic psychosis at work here if he feels the need to self-flagellate himself for not being sufficiently accommodating. What is wrong with him??

    •  That's what i keep thinking (7+ / 0-)

      what is wrong with this guy? Is the bubble just that thick and impermeable? What kind of shit does he have with himself that can't see that some people hate him and will never respect or work with him? And why can't he see that?

      Therapy, Obama, therapy.

      Don't tell me what you believe. Tell me what you do and I will tell you what you believe. h/t MeteorBlades

      by mdmslle on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:08:29 AM PST

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    •  Ha ha... (1+ / 0-)
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      Seriously, there is some sort of masochistic psychosis at work here if he feels the need to self-flagellate himself for not being sufficiently accommodating. What is wrong with him??

      Man you are dead on.

    •  As I mentioned above ... but pertinent here ... (1+ / 0-)
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      His behavior -- like so many Democrats -- is exactly analogous to a victim of domestic violence.  (I've had over 12 years of counseling DV victims and abusers, so I know their mindsets very, very well.)

      Abused wife blames herself for husband's violent behavior.

      Says she will redouble her efforts and try harder in the future to work with him and not neglect the things he expects her to do:  clean the house right, prepare meals perfectly, agree with everything he says ...

      The problem is, Obama is an "abused spouse in denial" Democrat who -- just like real abused spouses in denial -- push away and get angry at the people who are really the most supportive of them ... who encourage them to be strong and fight for their rights and dignity and self-respect, and who want them to quit sabotaging themselves and be successful.

      Real domestic violence is rooted in ultra-low self-esteem on the part of both parties ... but even lower in the victims.

      What I have to wonder is:  How did (establishment) Democrats reach this pathetic state of low self-esteem?  When did they become so ashamed and apologetic of being Democrats and (supposedly) holding Democratic principles?  And why?

      Can anyone pinpoint what in history led to this?

      •  Also analogous to failing corporations (0+ / 0-)

        where the leadership is either too weak and accommodating or too brash and arrogant to navigate through hard times.

        Every politician in America is sounding like that mayor in Jaws. -global citizen

        by James Kresnik on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 03:50:43 PM PST

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  •  .... (17+ / 0-)

    I neglected some things that matter a lot to people....

    for me, and i suspect for many of us, the public option comes to mind.

    anyways
    maybe our president is talking about other people....??

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    by ridemybike on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:04:52 AM PST

  •  Doubling Down (20+ / 0-)

    on "bipartisanship", even as it fails spectacularly in the face of Republican not-budge-a-fucking-inchness.

    That confirms it. We have been had.

    Retired: "We are the change we have been waiting for"

    Wired: "We have to deal with the world as we find it"

    by Wamsutta on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:05:01 AM PST

    •  You're only "had" when someone lies to you (0+ / 0-)

      Obama has always been obsessed with bipartisanship and getting along.  It was the theme of the speech that put him into the national lime light (2004 DNC).  This has always been what he's about, but too many during the 2008 primary season were brainwashed by his inspiring speeches.  All of the danger signs were there, but people chose to ignore them.  

      If anything, this shows the danger of:

      1. Supporting someone because he gives a rousing speech.  It could be worse, after all Obama is not a demagogue, but he doesn't really have a clue what he wants to accomplish.  
      1. Supporting someone with a very short resume.  Obama simply hadn't been in the Senate or national spot light long enough for anyone to know what he was really about, or if he had any serious goals he would fight for.  His time in the Illinois legislature really did not count.  That is the minor leagues.  We could have gotten lucky and he could have risen to the occasion, but we weren't.  

      At this point I honestly don't care whether he is reelected in 2012.  I actually feel like we are not going to make any headway on achieving real progressive change until he is out of the picture.  I don't need to read a laundry list of his "accomplishments", because a lot of them are duds.  The health care bill in particular did nothing to even begin to address the problems, let alone solve them.  The only improvement at all is removing pre-existing conditions, and the insurance companies are just going to pass the cost on to all of us, so we all pay more, even though health care is already bordering on being unaffordable.  

      If we can't get rid of Obama in a primary in 2012 then nothing will be accomplished until 2016, whether or not he wins.  The only concern I have is that the Republicans nominate someone absolutely insane and stupid, like Palin, to be president.  

      Don't like XOM and OPEC? What have YOU done to reduce your oil consumption? Hot air does NOT constitute a renewable resource!

      by Asak on Tue Nov 16, 2010 at 12:45:32 AM PST

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  •  This is so puzzling... (40+ / 0-)

    When your opposition says out loud that its number one goal is defeating you in the next election, what's not to get?

    There is no bi-partisanship.

    There will be no bi-partisanship.

    And your belief that you'll convince them otherwise is like handing them a baseball bat and telling them, "Hit me. Over and over."

    Weird.

    Even my bot is tired of this shit.

    by Bob Johnson on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:05:57 AM PST

  •  William Greider had a piece in the (20+ / 0-)

    Nation (Obama Without Tears) the other day that made similar points. I thought that this paragraph made an interesting point about one of the results of Obama's weak approach:

    First this:

    A friend and longtime warrior for liberal reforms described what unfolded in harsh but accurate terms: "First he was rolled by the bankers, then he was rolled by the generals, then he was rolled by the Blue Dogs and other Democrats who had no interest in going along with what he proposed." Obama seemed exceedingly tolerant of resisting forces and even cooperated with them. Or maybe he privately agreed with them. He never made it clear.

    Then this. Really, the way the Republicans seized on this weakness has been an evil brand of genius:

    Republicans, who are masters of deceptive marketing, seized on Obama's most appealing qualities and turned them upside down. Their propaganda cast him not as soft but as a power-mad (black) leftist, destroying democracy with socialist schemes. The portrait was so ludicrous and mendacious, the president's party hardly bothered to respond. Egged on by the Republican Party and Fox News, right-wing frothers conjured sicko fantasies and extreme accusations: the president is not only a black man (bad enough for the party of the white South); he is not even American. The vindictive GOP strategy is racial McCarthyism, demonizing this honorable man as an alien threat, just as cold war Republicans depicted left-liberal Democrats as commie sympathizers.

    We're in for a really, really sick, bad time in this country, again, if the President doesn't start standing up for himself.

    •  That attack on Obama was brilliant by the GOP. (11+ / 0-)

      Because, by attacking Obama as a socialist extremist -- they knew Obama would try to defuse that by moving even further to the right to appease the wackos.

      Their goal was to piss off the Democratic base and not get them to show up. Obama took the bait like a starving trout. Mission accomplished!

        •  Book Smarts ≠ Street Smarts (2+ / 0-)
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          Not this mind and not this heart, I won't rot • Mumford & Sons

          by jayden on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:16:25 AM PST

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        •  Brilliant, how? (0+ / 0-)

          Would Albert Einstein have made a good politician?  Being smart in certain areas doesn't mean shit.  Obama may be smart, but he's a terrible politician.  He's charismatic and gives a good speech, but either has no real goals, or has no clue how to achieve them.  

          He was elected with too little track record, so people didn't have time to vet him.  It hurt Democrats a lot worse than Republicans.  If Obama had been in the Senate two terms, no one would have been interested in having him run for President.  Because it was the DNC speech, then only 3 years later, people didn't realize that behind all the hot air there just wasn't anything there.  

          Don't like XOM and OPEC? What have YOU done to reduce your oil consumption? Hot air does NOT constitute a renewable resource!

          by Asak on Tue Nov 16, 2010 at 12:52:09 AM PST

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      •  Like the abuser painting his abused wife ... (0+ / 0-)

        ... to other people as the really horrible, abusive person -- and him the poor victim -- in order to turn people against her and decrease her potential sources of support.

      •  It's neither brilliant nor original. (0+ / 0-)

        It's commonly labled as "attacking the opponent's strength." This is a staple of Republican politics since the Bush Administration. This is Karl Rove's favorite tactic and he essentially popularized it.

        The most depressing part is that I've seen Democrats employ this tactic but only within the party, so they certainly should understand the tactic well enough to effectively counter it:

        1. Confidently bash the bashers for issuing baseless and degenerate slander.
        1. Quickly, redirect the argument into forcefully challenging the accusers' credibility and integrity for issuing baseless and degenerate slander.
        1. Firmly and directly accuse the baseless and degenerate slanderers of fomenting distraction and diversion.
        1. Magnanimously reclaim the moral high-ground from the baseless, degenerate, slanderers by redirecting the show back to issues that they want to distract the audience from.

        Every politician in America is sounding like that mayor in Jaws. -global citizen

        by James Kresnik on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 04:26:30 PM PST

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    •  Quite honestly, I like Obama as a person, (2+ / 0-)
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      But him not stqnding up for himself is not my concern. He needs to stand up for US as our leader whom we elected to lead Democrats into positive change. He works for US, not the other way around.

      •  If he can't even stand up for himself (2+ / 0-)
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        how do you expect him to stand up for anyone else?

        Not this mind and not this heart, I won't rot • Mumford & Sons

        by jayden on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:17:15 AM PST

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      •  Abuse victims are often very likeable people. (4+ / 0-)
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        You just get so frustrated and angry trying to be supportive of them to stand up for themselves, and believe in themselves, that often you finally just have to pull back and distance yourself for your own mental health.  

        I sense a lot of people here doing that right now.

        •  Excellent point (2+ / 0-)
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          The hang wringing gets really tiring. I think I have to tune out as well for a while. Just seeing what's going to come at him in January while he doesn't is too much to take right now.

          •  It's just become so obvious ... (2+ / 0-)
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            seeing what's going to come at him in January while he doesn't

            It's become clear that this blindness on his part isn't just some kind of political inexperience or naivete.  It's gone on way too long and too far to dismiss it that way anymore.  

            The reality of Republicans' strategy and motives is too glaringly obvious for anyone of any insight to miss.  Hell, they brag about it right in front of his face!

            Like an abuse victim, Obama seems to actually have some psychological need to deny and miss the glaringly obvious.  That's the only explanation I can put on this behavior anymore.

            And unfortunately, just as an abuse victim's denial ends up hurting and damaging her kids, in this case it is the whole country that ends up damaged.

    •  I think looking at it from this angle (2+ / 0-)
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      Or maybe he privately agreed with them.

      It makes you understand his behavior.

      This is Obama, these are his policies, his ideology at work here, his belief system. He's a neoliberal freemarket centrist. This is his governing style. We are expecting him to be something he is not by doing things he just doesn't fully believe in. Imo,  that's just not going to happen.

      I've accepted that fact, so I'm no longer as angry when I hear him talk like this. Am I happy about it, no, and I still get disappointed. I am just no longer fooling myself by wishfully thinking it's going to change.

      Don't get me wrong, I still criticize and speak out, but I've stopped expecting him to change and do what I want and expect him to do, because that just is not who he is.  Now that I realize that,it's easier to move past it and anticipate/plan ahead. And now is the time to plan ahead if ever there were a time.

      "Children are our most valuable natural resource." -- Herbert Hoover

      by emal on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 11:11:20 AM PST

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      •  He ran a pretty misleading campaign (0+ / 0-)

        The small baby steps we've taken on various things don't count as "Change", so no wonder the public was fed up and there was a backlash against him.  

        Don't like XOM and OPEC? What have YOU done to reduce your oil consumption? Hot air does NOT constitute a renewable resource!

        by Asak on Tue Nov 16, 2010 at 12:53:53 AM PST

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  •  If I'd have only been more like the blue dogs... (8+ / 0-)

    you know, the one who did so well this election. Sheesh.

    stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

    by Mother Mags on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:06:11 AM PST

  •  people don't want "things" done, (9+ / 0-)

    they want the country "fixed" - big difference; and I can't believe he is too stupid to know the difference.  Obama is a waste of time and money, and I hope he gets a primary from within the Party.  I cannot vote for him again.  

    Don't tax the rich, starve the poor.

    by dkmich on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:06:15 AM PST

  •  His personal need to be accepted and to (20+ / 0-)

    please is becoming so painful to watch.

    ...an apologist for himself, the apologist.

    Bad news will allow you to move on, while hope is paralyzing.

    by trinityfly on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:06:50 AM PST

  •  Missing a few zeros... (3+ / 0-)
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    Isn't this at least around "pt. 200"?

    As for that quote: Making sure shit is "fully debated"?  Wow. Just... wow.  Be sure to say hi to Mr. Tauzin for us, Mr. President.

    y el canto de todos que es mi propio canto

    by gatorbot on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:06:56 AM PST

  •  How could he get this so wrong? (11+ / 0-)

    How could he be so out of touch with what people want?

    NO ONE wants a more bipartisan tone. NO ONE! not even moderates.

    they're the ones that voted in the sweep of republicans who've done nothing but obstruct obstruct obstruct

    and, he's the only one being conciliatory, he couldn't possibly do any more

    people want someone who will stand on principle and go ahead and do what they want, not someone who will fold.

    Really!

    In that obsessive focus on policy, I neglected some things that matter a lot to people, and rightly so: maintaining a bipartisan tone in Washington;

  •  The problem is a lack of leadership from Obama (16+ / 0-)

    And, Obama "compromising" from a position of weakness actually exacerbates the problem rather than alleviates it.

    I posted a diary explaining a very easy way for Obama to regain the initiative, and kick GOP ass. It would not require passing anything through Congress. It was also something very easy for the average voter to understand.

    But, Obama is apparently so enamored of our dysfunctional Republic that he is "respecting" the will of the minority of white angry old voters who bothered to show up in the midterm elections.

  •  I Can See Dems Ending as Mainstream Party (9+ / 0-)

    We could find ourselves in 2-3 years with no base and no funding source.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:07:44 AM PST

    •  And so the country... (4+ / 0-)

      We will become a banana republic.  A playground for the superwealthy.

      QE2 will be our Titanic.

      by RichM on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:14:58 AM PST

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      •  Exactly. I started planning my escape (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
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        in late 2008, early 2009 even when I had faith that things would turn around.

        But now, I see they won't. And sadly, I have to lookout for myself and get out. In 2012 there'll be a GOP white house likely with someone who makes GW look like a rhoades scholar, and both houses of congress will be GOP. They will eliminate SS, medicare, medicaid and most workplace regulations along with a host of regulstory necessities like oh inpecting food and water. Our scotus is already skewed and skirting dangerously into actual politics shamelessly so forget justice at the highest levels. How are we going to be different than any third world country?

        Answer: we won't be.

        If you can get out now, it would be wise to plan to do so.

        This white house has the ability to turn this around if he works with congressional dems and gets vocal about all the shit that fails in congress because of the GOP. But I'm not hopeful he'll do this. So 2012 will be the true beginning if the end for this country.

        Don't tell me what you believe. Tell me what you do and I will tell you what you believe. h/t MeteorBlades

        by mdmslle on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:38:09 AM PST

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        •  I feel ya. (3+ / 0-)
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          I'm 56. Unlike you, I have no way out. So maybe the wish dictates the thought, but I'm not convinced that 2012 will be the end. However, I'm not naive enough to deny that it could be. I really believe that if Palin could somehow be elected POTUS, she would be like Martin Sheen's character in The Dead Zone. She and her top advisor (Todd Palin) are just crazy enough to let it all go down the shit-chute.
             What I do believe is that we are close to the point of no return in this country. I can't shake the feeling the BHO doesn't believe it, not for one second. If it's the bubble of D.C., he's still got Michele, she's smart. Why the Hell doesn't she just tell him one night as they're getting ready for bed? But that ain't happening either. Maybe she feels the same. I don't know anything anymore.
             
             

          The Republican motto: "There's been a lot of progress in this country over the last 75 years, and we've been against all of it."

          by Hillbilly Dem on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:01:31 AM PST

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          •  me either. (2+ / 0-)
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            In fact, I feel frustrated because I honestly believe he's just in a bubble. Frankly it happens to every president to some degree. My frustration stems from not feeling like i (or someone like me) could reach him and shake some sense into him.

            sigh

            truth is, i think this is it.

            As far as not being able to leave, sure you can. You can sell pretzels at the market in any country on earth. If you have a car you can make it to peru! Seriously, try to save SOMETHING, anything you can. $2000-$3000 goes a long way in some countries on this planet and you really may need to skiddaddle once we have a complete religio-fascist sham of a govt. I mean when you have actually sitting legislators saying that global warming is not an issue because God told Noah he wouldn't destroy the earth again after the flood....I mean, it is seriously time to see things for what they are. We have a SCOTUS that is part of the corruption; an official corporate buy-in/bribery system for elected officials seeking office (YAY Citizens United c/o SCOTUS); we have legislators who aren't listening to anyone unless they've paid for access and votes; elections that are not the same in every state or county and have been rated poorly compared to other western nations (did you like the last "election" in Afghanistan? Get used to it. It's coming to America when the GOP takes over again); We will have a permanent slave class (finally, again) who are so desperate for work, corporations will be able to use and exploit us just like they did in the early industrial age; no one will have health care, insurance or security unless they are of a "certain class", just like in many third world nations where people starve and live desperate lives while the rulers live opulently (we're already half way there, mama). And since elections and the courts will be a "formality" the only system of change available for those who remain here will be revolution. Hopefully people will be able to organize without being punished - but I wouldn't count on it. Today's GOP is as close to fascist totalitarians as I believe we've ever had in this country. Markos was NOT exaggerating when he titled his book American Taliban.

            This is serious.

            Don't write off getting out unless you really really think you can't.

            Save $50 a month if you can. $100. Sell some pretzels or cookies at the flea market. Something. Anything.

            I'm getting out. Wish I could take others with me. But I cannot stay here.

            Don't tell me what you believe. Tell me what you do and I will tell you what you believe. h/t MeteorBlades

            by mdmslle on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:19:13 AM PST

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        •  It's kind of scary (4+ / 0-)
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          Right now the GOP could run a presidential campaign that said "did you make the right choice in 2008" and probably bloody well win.

      •  Worse than that...... (2+ / 0-)
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        a banana republic with nukes and a ton of bad debt.

        The Republican motto: "There's been a lot of progress in this country over the last 75 years, and we've been against all of it."

        by Hillbilly Dem on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:02:48 AM PST

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  •  Obama translated: (9+ / 0-)

    He's all process and had to pass something.  Which is pretty much what liberals have been saying since the HCR debacle.  

    And the fact that we are out of crisis -- although still, obviously, in a difficult time -- I think will give me the capacity to do that.

    "Out of crises"?  What planet is Obama living on?  

    "I wonder how many times you have to be hit on the head before you find out who's hitting you?" Harry Truman - 1948

    by ThAnswr on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:07:45 AM PST

  •  He can't really believe that? (6+ / 0-)

    He's not so stupid to think that 'bipartisanship' really means anything to anybody who's not a Villager.

    Is he?

    People want jobs.  And peace.  And security.  And functioning infrastructure.  And world class education.  (Oh, and they want it all for free, but that's a different issue.)

    They honestly don't give a fuck whether Jim DeMint has had his ego sufficiently soothed (here's a hint - it'll never be sufficiently soothed).  There are no decent people left among elected Republicans.  Those that are decent human beings have abandoned ship.  Hell, the Democratic coalition now includes a whole lot of folks who probably don't qualify as decent human beings, because the Republicans have gone so far around the bend that even some borderline sociopaths have given up on it.  Bipartisanship, in the sense of taking ideas from the left and the right and compromising, takes place between the Progressives and the Blue Dogs.  The power-mad extremists in the Republican caucus will never compromise.  It's not in their nature, because they only want to destroy - and they don't need any help to accomplish that goal.

    "...the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." RIP Senator. We miss you.

    by libdevil on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:07:46 AM PST

  •  He sounds so apologetic. Leaders don't (20+ / 0-)

    apologize.  They lead.

    He sounds like he's trying to make his marriage to the Congress work.  He isn't married to the damn Congress.  He's the LEADER OF THE COUNTRY.

  •  One more turn on the ropes? (2+ / 0-)
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    He can't be dumb enough to think the Republicans are willing to work with him. What's he doing, reading the polls that say everybody, Democrats included (present company excepted) wants bipartisanship?

    If he's playing rope-a-dope, OK, but he's been on the ropes long enough. It isn't working. Come out swinging, damn it.

    It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness - Eleanor Roosevelt

    by Fish in Illinois on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:08:39 AM PST

  •  is it possible (10+ / 0-)

    that he is that out of touch.... or are there serious inside efforts to keep him shielded from what's going on out here?

    please, i ask this in all seriousness.

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    by ridemybike on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:09:13 AM PST

    •  He himself has complained that he's (10+ / 0-)

      too out of the loop.  I imagine that presidents are so mired down that they really depend on other people to tell them what's going on.  He can't spend all day on blogs, and if he watches cable news--for the most part that's gong to really warp his idea of what people think.

      Being president has to be absolutely horrible.  You think you know what people want, you get stuff passed that at least sort of does what you said yo uwere going to do, then people vote in the bastards who oppose dyou all the way.  Your own party has been kind of lukewarm, too, with so many Blue Dogs.  

      The problem is, he never achieved his legislative victories in the state or U.S. senate by fighting with people.  He's always forged partnerships with unlikely people.  That's what he's been counting on.

      Electing Republicans to run our government is like hiring an arsonist as Property Manager.

      by Grumpy Young Man on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:16:48 AM PST

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    •  Rich people IS DC now. He is being (1+ / 0-)
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      Told reality by people (advisors on insider DC) whose stock portfolios are off the charts! He is going to think. Are out of the woods because to those people we are! And of course they want him to work with the right, to protect their interests. As soon as you see it through the lens of the Corporate Masters it all makes sense, as someone said unthread.

  •  Marketing fail, indeed (9+ / 0-)

    I don't remember a single President in my lifetime (going back to Eisenhower) who make more of an effort to be bipartisan and reach out to the other side than Obama has done.  IMHO, probably way too much.  And yet, not only has he been blamed for not being bipartisan enough, he appears to have internalized that blame.  He has had every opportunity to shout from the rooftops how much of an effort he has made, but instead has just talked about the Republicans blocking and wantign to go back.

    Only occassionally has he made the point that he has made concessions and it still didn't do squat to get Republicans on board, whereas the Republicans have not made a single concession.  As a result, we have legislation that moderate Republicans from the 90's have praised and would easily have voted for but he is seen as having pushed through.

    I really like Obama, and acknowledge the accomplishments so far, but he is trying too hard to match the perception of compromiser instead of the personna of someone of personal convictions.  He once said he would rather be a one-term President who accomplished thing than a two-term President who did nothing.  Unfortunately, he is in danger of being a one-term President who accomplished a few half-ass things.

    •  He clearly has inner demons he's dealing with (5+ / 0-)

      I just wish he didn't choose to deal with them by running for president. We don't need a Jesus-In-Chief turning the other cheek as he lets the other side crucify him (and thus us), and actually helps them do it. We need a King David.

      "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" --Alexander Hamilton

      by kovie on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:15:37 AM PST

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      •  Maybe he thought there would be free (0+ / 0-)

        group therapy in the WH.  And he could invite the Repubs in too!!

        The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

        by accumbens on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:55:24 AM PST

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  •  Yes (7+ / 0-)

    Obama is trying to appear reasonable and conciliatory in a Wrestling Federation match, and with a Wrestling Federation Public. I understand that he wanted to elevate the dialogue but you can't go and say "Why don't you hit me with the fist instead of using a chair. Can we agree in that?" "We should not shout and spittle on to the crowd" "The posturing and ridiculous names are unnecessary we should just introduce ourselves with our the names in our ss card"

    It does not matter anymore the argument if Obama is weak or not, or even how much the right wing have battled to implant that meme in the national contentiousness, at this point he better come swinging publicly, obnoxiously or he is a de facto lame duck

  •  The next step is to make a list (5+ / 0-)

    of all Republicans he may have offended, and write letters to make amends.

    •  He needs to turn off Morning Joe (0+ / 0-)

      and so does Valerie Jarrett...

      "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

      by justmy2 on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 07:56:59 PM PST

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  •  Huh. I've seen quite a few things in my time, (15+ / 0-)

    but I've never seen a guy nail himself to a cross.  Good of you to save the Romans all that work, Obama.

    Democracy is often an indictment of the voting populace.

    by electricgrendel on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:10:44 AM PST

  •  What a shmuck (3+ / 0-)
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    If he believes this then he's an idiot. If he's just saying this because he believes that it's what the public believes then he's an idiot. Either way, he's an idiot.

    Other than that, of course, Obama is the greatest president ever!

    "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" --Alexander Hamilton

    by kovie on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:10:49 AM PST

  •  Fols keep shitting on the 2012 primaries... (9+ / 0-)

    but it's beginning to look more and more like we need to:

    a) save this President from himself

    and thereby...

    b) save this Party from itself

    More and Better Democrats

    by SJerseyIndy on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:11:10 AM PST

  •  What a total disappointment this guy is... (8+ / 0-)

    What amazes me is how stupid really smart people can be.  What he tried in the last two years bought him a GOP landslide - so he is going to do the same thing again only twice as hard?  I think I'm going to have to hit up Jerome for a job...

    QE2 will be our Titanic.

    by RichM on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:11:10 AM PST

    •  I am SO tempted to engage in some pop psych (3+ / 0-)
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      to try to explain how his cold, distant and self-obsessed parents turned him into such a conceited out of touch navel-gazing identifying with the aggressor shmuck, but I won't.

      Oh, wait, I just did...

      "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" --Alexander Hamilton

      by kovie on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:18:12 AM PST

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  •  Wrong, Jed-- (11+ / 0-)

    Instead of embracing political strategies that validate the criticism of his political opponents, President Obama should be touting his accomplishments and pushing to achieve even more. If he really believes that he's done the right things as president, he shouldn't be begging forgiveness -- especially not from people who will never give it to him.

    Unless we're including this place and others like it amongst his 'opponents'.

    Strictly from a governing perspective, I think he's spot on... the legislative output of the 111th congress, even accounting for the recalcitrant Senate, was probably the most we've seen since the 1960s, if not the 1930s.

    Sorry, I'm with the President on this one... he didn't 'market' his wins well enough.

    Personally, I rather suspect that the administration and congressional Dems hope/thought was their supposed allies in the blogosphere, on TV, and on talk radio would handle that part --- just as talk radio and Fox do for the GOP -- but it wasn't to be.

    I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

    by zonk on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:11:25 AM PST

    •  He has not marketed his wins well - but he also (2+ / 0-)
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      has been poor at marketing his ideas.  His detached, inability to explain things as if "we were five year olds" (PowerPoint would be a nightmare for him).  His obsession with trying to get everybody to the table - bipartisanship as a goal instead of a medium (since some of the people at the table are pernicious and/or stupid) - is maddening.  

      Marketing is a colder, detached term for what the problem is.  He has to finally, two years later, articulate what HIS vision is.  If HIS vision is simply to forge bipartisan tonal happiness - bipartisanship got us the Patriot Act, DOMA and the Iraq War - that is hardly change at all.

      •  But the left won't play along... (0+ / 0-)

        Take the health care debate, for example...

        The way to market PPACA was a simple matter of saying we've put an end to recission, discrimination based on pre-existing conditions, created minimum coverage definitions, created the first real federal oversight of the health insurance industry -- and oh yeah, more than doubled Medicare's solvency without cutting a single thing Medicare covers.

        Now... we can pick apart all those things -- using the old 80/20 rule, I'll readily admit several of those things are really closer to 80% true, than 100% true... but - that was the way to market it because it had more than enough basis in fact to be 'true'.

        I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

        by zonk on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:34:47 AM PST

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        •  Of course - the bill does good things (0+ / 0-)

          ... at the same time, it was never sold IN ITS INFANCY as a fundamental change to how healthcare is delivered in this country.  In fact, the President went out of his way to emphasize that it was not a paradigm change.  This despite polling that showed that people were ready for a paradigm shift.

          Agreed on the marketing - there are subtleties that should be glossed over.  But that requires the President and the Party to advance the goals of healthcare with conviction - and conviction is not something the President takes out of his toolkit much.

          •  That's true... (0+ / 0-)

            But at the same time, it's hard to quibble with that choice in marketing...

            Yes, it's quite true that on a macro level -- people aren't generally happy with our health care system, to say nothing of how we provide coverage.

            BUT - things get quite a bit dicier when you dig into the details and personalize policy changes.

            To wit -- people suddenly start worrying about their own insurance.... It's an easy sell to the 10s of millions of Americans without insurance, but those WITH insurance suddenly start with "devil you know" formulations... "I've got health insurance..." and for the majority of Americans, that's true.  

            There were no great choices in that regard.  

            People are generally much more ready for a paradigm shift at a macro level.... until you start talking specifics and they start to wonder how it affects them at a micro, individual level.

            I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

            by zonk on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:58:12 AM PST

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      •  I think he takes thing moment by moment, (1+ / 0-)
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        hence his reflection here, which to me is way off but at least he is doing it. To that end, i don't think he has a vision, and if he did he never articulated it, or it has been lost since then. I think he will settle for whatever legislation can pass now rather than progressive legislation and so to think he will bring anyone to the bargaining table is maddening.

    •  I have days (2+ / 0-)
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      ...when I think the D's wanted to give the House away...for the same reason that the R's wanted Obama to be President:  so the whole house of cards' collapse could be blamed on the Democrats.

      Now the Republicans will share the blame.  But I'd rather the whole world didn't come crashing down for political advantage.

      America, we can do better than this...

      by Randomfactor on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:21:24 AM PST

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      •  He definitely had that working against him (1+ / 0-)
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        People forget that FDR had the advantage of the '29 crash and Great Depression being wholly owned by Hoover -- we weren't as lucky this time around.  The bottom fell out just before the election, and Obama was inevitably going to get stuck with the trough of an economic down cycle.

        Unemployment, foreclosures, and other sundry mallus of an economic debacle would continue rising through most of FDR's first term -- but FDR had the advantage of 3 years of 'Hoover's hole'...  

        I'm continually impressed that the administration's communication efforts have succeeded in painting the current economic quagmire as "Bush's" as well as they have -- a plurality still does (as they should).

        Given a flux capacitor, I think I'd have probably advised Reid, Pelosi, and Obama to go for broke in 2009-2010 because they were going to get thumped in '10 regardless.  Even a more muscular stimulus wasn't going to turn the economic environment on a dime -- it didn't in the 30s.

        I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

        by zonk on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:28:49 AM PST

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      •  Rumors out of the White House said they thought (0+ / 0-)

        a Republican Congress would make it easier for the President to get what he wanted.  Do they think the Republicans will feel sorry for him?  Something is seriously wrong in the White House, I mean seriously wrong!

      •  So let me get this straight... (0+ / 0-)

        You are saying that the democrats sold us down a river so they wouldn't have to take the heat alone while they were a majority in all three branches of government? Is that what you are saying? If so , wow! And how would  we  vote for them from a moral standpoint? That sounds as immoral as the republicans who publicly want to see us go down, or maybe even more so since at least they are upfront about their intentions.

    •  Our country is in such a bi-polar mess right now (3+ / 0-)
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      I don't know what they could have done more with marketing--but what they did certainly didn't work.

      I do think, however, that they should have made a bigger stimulus and passed a public option that kicked in soon.  Would it have made a difference?  It might have saved a few seats, but the GOP would have still been the irrational foaming jerkoffs they've been for two years now.

      Electing Republicans to run our government is like hiring an arsonist as Property Manager.

      by Grumpy Young Man on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:22:18 AM PST

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    •  That is a valid point (0+ / 0-)

      Who knew that the media would become so vapid? Oh wait......!

      And we are faced with the same media elites who made ten thousand excuses for why we had to go to war in Iraq, and are not making ten thousand excuses why the last elections was so clearly about cutting taxes for the wealthy and entitlement reform...... NOT!

      ~a little change goes a long way~

      by missliberties on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:23:39 AM PST

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      •  I'm not talking about the media generally (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm talking about partisan media channels and partisan outlets like this place.

        On one hand, I'm frankly -- more than a bit proud of the fact that the "left" side of the partisan media isn't as prone to 'scoreboarding' legislation and blind cheerleading.

        But - there is no doubt that the GOP is helped by the fact that the Limbaughs, the freepers, and the Foxes, and such will most certainly blindly cheer their sides' "wins" whether they're truly ideological wins or not.

        Iraq is a prime example, frankly -- conservative orthodoxy had long, long been a foreign policy built on isolationism and a very, very dim view of foreign intervention.

        In a blink of an eye - the neocons were able to oust generations of what is now termed 'paleocon' thinking to the dustbin.   Yakkers who, less than 10 prior, had been bemoaning nation building, who saw no good from American intervention in the Balkans, in Africa, in the middle east -- jumped on board the Iraq train with both feet.

        It wasn't just a seismic shift in conservative thought and policy -- it was a complete and total 180... and the AM yakkers, what passes for the RW blogosphere, etc -- they all went along in lockstep.

        Or heck - take the Part D Medicare bill... that's not a piece of legislation any conservative supports - an expansion, no matter by what means, of an entitlement program.  Yet - there was Tom Delay breaking laws and twisting arms to get it passed in the House.  There were the RW talking heads crowing about the magnificent George W Bush stealing a Democratic issue.

        We have principles, they don't?

        They're stupid zombies that blindly cheer for their 'team'?

        Maybe...

        I'm not comfortable saying we should -- basically -- do "less bitching, more cheering"... but we live in the world we live in, and the simple fact of the matter is that the 'other side' most certainly does do a lot less bitching and a lot more cheering.

        I'm not going to claim to have the answer... I'm just saying that's the way it is, and from a political/marketing perspective -- I think it helps the GOP and hurts us.

        I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

        by zonk on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:11:04 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Um, WHAT wins? (4+ / 0-)

      His biggest "win" was a health care bill written by an insurance company executive and which draws on conservative Republican ideas -- and as a result is so unpopular it helped sink the Democrats this year, as polling showed well before the bill (minus its most popular part, a public option) was passed.

      As for the "but the voters are upset about the economy, not health care!" argument:  If Obama had pushed to use reconciliation to pass a $2T stimulus package -- you know, the one the economists kept telling him in late 2008 and early 2009 would be the only thing big enough to act fast enough to pull us out of the ditch completely in time for 2010? -- instead of having his media and Capitol Hill surrogates pretend that reconciliation couldn't work on anything until Scott Brown forced him to admit otherwise to get his insurance-company-written health care bill passed, both Obama and the Democrats would be sitting pretty right now.

      But noooooo:  Before Scott Brown forced the issue, anyone who dared remind folks that reconciliation -- which Bush and the Republicans used quite often to pass bills -- was an option was repeatedly mocked and shouted down.

      Visit http://theuptake.org/ for Minnesota news as it happens.

      by Phoenix Woman on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:34:31 AM PST

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      •  Enough of the PO mythmaking already... (0+ / 0-)

        Of course the PO was popular -- call something an "option" and it instantly becomes something for other people, and only the ideologically driven would oppose it.

        To the best of my knowledge, none of the PO polls bothered to even give lip service to the CBO analysis which said point blank that the premiums would be higher and the coverage on the lower end of the scale... to say nothing of others studies -- KFF, if memory serves, did one -- that all but said the PO as it was laid out in the House bill would essentially become an adverse selection pool.

        I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

        by zonk on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:50:11 AM PST

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    •  More legislation does not necessarily mean (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
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      good legislation. It's hard to market shit sandwiches regardless of how many you make.

  •  This President is a disgrace (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    slinkerwink, buckhorn okie, mdmslle

    Neither party represents us any more. It's all a sick joke.

    "If you give the people a choice between a watered-down Republican and a Republican, they will choose the real thing every time." Harry Truman

    by Haningchadus14 on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:11:33 AM PST

  •  His conciliatory tone is almost as deadly as (7+ / 0-)

    Carter's stern chiding.

    Both good men, but are they good leaders?

  •  Still stuck in the bubble? (3+ / 0-)

    You really have to wonder if Obama (or any president, for that matter) ever goes outside of the Oval Office bubble to ask some real people about their perceptions.  Because it's hard to believe that the White House seems immune to the concept that people don't care about how it's done, they wants results (read: jobs/stablizing economy) and want them yesterday.

  •  "the dog ate my homework" (2+ / 0-)
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    doesn't work for my kid either

    "Thunder is good, thunder is impressive; but it is lightning that does all the work." ~Mark Twain

    by Lady Libertine on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:13:14 AM PST

  •  Hello President Huckabee. nt (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Translation: I've not been conservative enough (2+ / 0-)
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    buckhorn okie, betson08

    Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, and given the choice between him and anyone on the the right, I'll choose him any day of the week, but other than that...

  •  I really thought I was voting for a fighter. (5+ / 0-)

    Instead it appears we got another Democratic wimp...

    Social Security is my line in the sand. Oppose it, and I oppose you.

    by Beelzebud on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:14:15 AM PST

    •  Remember when Hilary was creaming Obama in the (3+ / 0-)
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      primaries and people were arguing for him to fight back, but no matter what, he wouldn't and so the whole primary went on forever?  At that point, I already had my worries about his ability to fight back and be the aggressor. Even when he did fight back it was always in response to her.

  •  It's his fault. Right. There is no such thing (6+ / 0-)

    as John Boehner and Republicans.

    I do not get this guy.

    •  Don't bother - (3+ / 0-)
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      The hordes are feasting on the red meat that 2 front page posters so obligingly served up

      It's been quite the Monday morning at the kos.  Here are a few memorable comments from this diary - comments in BBB's front page post were just as memorable

      This President is a disgrace

      we got another Democratic wimp

      Sheesh, what a fucking wimp!! The man is hopeless.

      to try to explain how his cold, distant and self-obsessed parents turned him into such a conceited out of touch navel-gazing identifying with the aggressor shmuck, but I won't

  •  No more intellectual/professors for POTUS pls (2+ / 0-)
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    Sheesh, what a fucking wimp!! The man is hopeless.

    Obama? More like Obummer!

  •  a little more decisive steerage & much less (4+ / 0-)

    mediation & concern over consensus would be much better for the country.

    Whatever action a great man performs, common men follow. And whatever standards he sets by exemplary acts, all the world pursues. The Gita 3.21

    by rasbobbo on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:15:56 AM PST

  •  Results? I think he has focused too much (3+ / 0-)
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    on process.  Also - despite Jon Stewart's sentiment to the contrary - I know NOBODY who thinks that a bipartisan tone is a problem.

    Process ain't puttin the unemployed back to work - results is ...

    He is an unusually poor communicator considering his actual communication gifts.

  •  I can't even listen to him anymore... (4+ / 0-)
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    he makes me cringe...

    I am no longer a Democrat. Deal with it.

    by Jazzenterprises on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:16:36 AM PST

  •  He is a weak President (5+ / 0-)

    He chose to be a weak President. He could have been much more, but he didn't choose to do that. He has chosen to be weak, and we all have to live with the terrible consequences of it.

    Fundamentally, Obama is irrelevant for us. He is nothing more than a useful target for Republicans. He won't fight, he has no backbone, he's ignorant of the the degree of pain in the country - all choices of his. What he says or does makes almost no difference.

    Yes, there have been some positive steps under his "leadership" (I have to use the word in quotes, because he basically just follows what Congress wants to do); but the steps were all ALL less than circumstances demanded, and he gave up stronger options without a murmur.

    This man is President, yes, but he is irrelevant. We should spend our energies elsewhere - we're never going to change him, he's not going to fight for us, and it's time to focus our efforts where they might actually accomplish something. ng at another 8 years of Republicans in the White House.

  •  Maybe he needs to work on the tone he (2+ / 0-)
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    has with his base and not so much on the bipartisan tone.

  •  Touting accomplishments? (1+ / 0-)
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    The belief that they were "right" shows, to me, he still does not get it.

    In some cases went in the wrong direction and in others did he go far enough?

  •  Obama endorses Palin... pretty much what this is (0+ / 0-)

    Kissing Republican ass gave Obama a Boehner.

    by The Dead Man on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:18:36 AM PST

  •  asdf (2+ / 0-)
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    slinkerwink, Lady Libertine

    Bringing a knife crumpet to a gun fight.

    Retired: "We are the change we have been waiting for"

    Wired: "We have to deal with the world as we find it"

    by Wamsutta on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:19:16 AM PST

  •  Damn, why didn't we elect you? (4+ / 0-)

    Oh, that's right, you didn't run.  I suppose my tone isn't conciliatory enough, though.  It's hard work, taking criticism.  This kind of critique is just the kind of thing needed to organize all of those who didn't vote in 2010.

  •  I don't think liberals realize what's at stake. (14+ / 0-)

    Obama's weakness is putting not only the short term electoral prospects of the Democratic party and himself at stake -- but also the very foundations of the modern social welfare system, ranging from Social Security, medicare, medicaid on down.

    The entire edifice erected by the Democratic party from Roosevelt through Johnson is teetering on the brink right now and are under a full scale assault.

    Obama is not doing anything to fight back. If anythinge's he's contributing to the problem, and even buying into the criticism of these bedrock programs.

    The people who see this as only a political problem that just requires clapping louder for the Prtesident are crazy. They are actually making things worse.

    We went from, in November 2008 to seeing a progressive and Democratic resurgence that would finally beat back the threat of conservatism -- to being on the verge of a full-scale progressive and Democratic retreat on CORE Democratic issues in the space of 24 months.

    It's unbelievable to me. This is why President Obama is such a disaster. And, frankly, I am at the point of giving up any hope that he will turn things around. He's completely inept and has no clue what is at stake and how to fix it. Maybe he's even unwilling to do so. It is scary as hell.

  •  Agree (4+ / 0-)
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    If he can't draw a line in the sand on tex cuts for billionaires my long and steadfast support of his Presidency will be diminished greatly.

    It is so disappointing to hear DC elites speak endlessly of tax cuts and spending cuts as if that was what the last election was about.

    The people want something done for them. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs.

    How do tax cuts for the wealthy create jobs?

    All these years later, the Democrats have still never come up with a short, strong cogent argument as to why tax cuts are not the answer to every problem under the sun.

    ~a little change goes a long way~

    by missliberties on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:20:44 AM PST

    •  Bingo (0+ / 0-)

      How do tax cuts for the wealthy create jobs?

      Exactly, the past decade of these Bush tax cuts for wealthy has proven that to be a LIE.

      Hello we are living the results of that policy as we speak and last I read unemployment is 9.6 % well above the rate that it was before these tax cuts were enacted.

      "Children are our most valuable natural resource." -- Herbert Hoover

      by emal on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 11:16:57 AM PST

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  •  It gets worse by the day (2+ / 0-)
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    I could not imagine it getting worse than last week.

    Fooled me.

  •  Did Jesse Jackson actually succeed (0+ / 0-)

    in cutting his balls off?

    If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him.

    by jhannon on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:21:01 AM PST

  •  Will the Secret Service please sweep the WH (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mrblifil, DKinUT

    for Kryptonite?

    "Can't...seem...to...recover..."

  •  On my most recent job interview (2+ / 0-)
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    i was asked my biggest weakness, so I of course had to confess that sometimes I work so long and hard I forget to go home after 10 or 12 hours

  •  Nana didn't blame herself for being called a n* (3+ / 0-)
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    chrississippi, slinkerwink, mdmslle

    Blaming oneself for the unprovoked, prejudiced hatred of bigots and self-interested obstructionists is beyond ridiculous. Whoever is advising President Obama is doing him a great disservice. He is coming off as completely out of touch with reality and suffering from borderline depression/low-self esteem. I hope it's just bad PR and not actually what he believes.

    My advice to President Obama:

    We don't have the time or space for BS. Too much is at stake. Someone needs to get into POTUS's ear PDQ with the TRUTH.

    "We will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist" --- President Barack Obama, 1-20-2009.

    by tier1express on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:25:40 AM PST

  •  2012 (3+ / 0-)
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    What could this guy possibly run on in 2012?

    Can he even make it on a one-day-at-a-time basis till 2011?

    I feel like my vote was stolen.

  •  Bada Bing (2+ / 0-)
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    Is "begging" Barrack to "Get It" where we are all at now? wow- just asking.. Obviously he refuses to CHANGE. From what I can tell there is NOTHING (much) he thinks to "learn" from the mid-term other than he "tried to hard". huh?  

    Bada Bing - think we got a 1 term Prez in the making (every day since January 2009 in reality). Like the old addage says Campaigning is one thing Governing is another. He is real god at #1. It is hard to get my mind prepared for that loss yet though. 2013- 2017 will be a crazy scary time in this country.  Hell it already is.

    Ok - I'll beg > Barrack will you STOP all this Bi-Partisan crap please? - you are taking us all down with you- HELLO? STOP it and act a bit more like FDR and TRUMAN please! For all our sakes.

    2010 > Elect Rebecca Kaplan - Mayor of Oakland ------ Jerry Brown - CA Governor

    by AustinSF on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:26:12 AM PST

  •  So not only is Obama going to continue (4+ / 0-)
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    to give the GOP his lunch money every day but they now get to put a "Kick me" sign on his back?

  •  Earmarks are not all wastedul. (2+ / 0-)
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    Some of them go to schools, to provide education for at risk young adults.

  •  Thank God for Pelosi (5+ / 0-)
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    who simply refused to fall on her sword at the request of her opponents.  Instead she said, "Fall on this, assholes."  They could use some of that energy in the White House.

    If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him.

    by jhannon on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:26:31 AM PST

  •  Cantor has just flipped Obama the bird (3+ / 0-)
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    by negotiating with Israel while Obama was out of country.

    .....and it appears that in the spirit of maintaining a bipartisanship tone Obama will not call Cantor out for this outrageous act.

    In all my years dealing with bullies (as special education teacher dealing with behavior disorders, I an confidently predict that pretending an insult didn't happen is a bad strategy.  It only makes them bolder.

    If cats could blog, they wouldn't.

    by crystal eyes on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:26:32 AM PST

  •  Obama doesn't have a clue (4+ / 0-)

    The reason Obama failed has nothing to do with any of the things listed in his self-evaluation.  Obama has failed because he's too busy sucking on his bipartisicle to provide leadership.

    Obama doesn't know how to use power.  He doesn't know how to have a vision and construct it into a narrative.  He doesn't know how to go out and sell his ideas.  He doesn't know how to wield the stick or take on the opposition and pivot off of that to highlight and contrast his own direction.  He doesn't know how to treat and rally his base.

    He's a back room political hack who, as Krugman says, spends endless hours debating himself and talking himself out of strong positions before he even meets with the opposition to which he ends up giving away another large portion of his position.

    Obama still can't grasp the essential element of being an effective President; the effective and bold use of power in service of a noble goal.  

    Go ahead bet against us. We're getting rolled.

    by Pacific Blue on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:28:02 AM PST

  •  Sorry folks, but WTF? (6+ / 0-)

    I neglected some things that matter a lot to people, and rightly so: maintaining a bipartisan tone in Washington; dealing with practices like earmarks that are wasteful at a time where everybody else is tightening their belts; making sure that the policy decisions that I made were fully debated with the American people and that I was getting out of Washington and spending more time shaping public opinion

    The first thing he says: Bipartisan bs. Then on to earmarks and belt tightening (more stuff that has little to do with me and you).

    Debating policy with the American people? Uh, no Mr President. You do not debate the American people. You sell your position to us. The merits of your position and the weaknesses of the oppositions positions.

    I really like the president. I have supported him here to the point of being called a fanatic. But there is something off about the points the president is making. Frankly, this bs does in no way resonate with the people. Sounds like inside the beltway rhetoric.

    Sorry, sir. You are losing me.

  •  This is worse than the Rec List Diary (9+ / 0-)

    No, you fucking imbecile, the people are not wringing their hands over the lack of a bipartisan unicorn by which they can fawn over.

    They are pissed because jobs are disappearing, homes are being foreclosed, families are suffering, people are dying thanks to no health insurance, our soldiers are dying with no real purpose, billionaires keep getting rich at the express expense of the little guy, and you worry your damn little heart about bipartisanship?

    Jesus H. Christ. This is getting pathetic, Sir.

  •  The depressing this is that the more we criticize (5+ / 0-)

    ...Obama here. The more his political advisors think they are doing the right thing politically. Pissing off the liberals is a measuring stick for political sucess in the White House, unfortunately.

  •  I can't disagree with this part, though: (3+ / 0-)
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    ...spending more time shaping public opinion and being in a conversation with the American people about why I was making the choices I was making.

    I can accept compromises if they're coupled with an attempt to change the way that people think about the problem.  I can accept compromises if they're accompanied by an honest assessment of where they fall short, and why it may, nonetheless, be necessary to do something.  

    It's the capitulations followed by the declarations of "Mission Accomplished" that I can't stand.

    To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

    by sneakers563 on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:29:17 AM PST

    •  What he calls compromise (2+ / 0-)
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      sneakers563, heart of a quince

      those of us who own a dictionary or can Google call 'capitulation'. When you compromise both sides give things up. What exactly have the Republicans given up in any of these dealings?

      It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether I win or lose - Bill Walton

      by jhecht on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:58:48 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Agreed (0+ / 0-)

        However, I could even live with that if he would point out that the legislation was flawed because the Republicans acted in bad faith, and blocked what needed to be done.

        At least then, people would know that if the legislation doesn't work, it's because the Republicans crippled the legislation.  There would be a rationale for going back and fixing the legislation, doing what couldn't be done the first time.

        Instead, every capitulation, every half-measure is treated as a great accomplishment, and exactly what the President wanted.  Consequently, there's no way to go back and fix the legislation, because there was no hint that there was anything wrong with it in the first place.  He ends up discrediting the entire effort.

        He's the greatest orator of my lifetime, but as President he's done little more than stand under "mission accomplished" banners.  

        To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

        by sneakers563 on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:52:04 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  This isn't a game, folks. While it is (8+ / 0-)

    just fine to criticize our POTUS, using the word "fail" in the title of the article and all the amazingly awful comments thru this thread are so demoralizing.  Can we not have constructive criticism without a full roasting?  Could the article title not be something more like: "Suggested improvements to Obama's marketing?  
    Do you haters have any clue what is at stake?  Perhaps it really is too late, but I still have hope for a peaceful, clean world where citizens can be employed and have decent health care.  
    Obama is not perfect.  Neither are any of us.  But he just happens to be the best we got.  There is about zero chance any other Dem will be POTUS in 2012.  Can you imagine the world if we let the Repubs win in 2012?  
    This self righteous lambasting of Obama and other Dems may make you feel good but it is one of the reasons Dems lose.  Can you imagine how this article and the comments appear to someone new on the site looking for a way to help get Dems elected?  

    No, I am not saying STFU.  No, I am not saying don't criticize.   But do the criticism in a respectful way.  Be respectful and kind of another human being who happens to be the POTUS.  This jeering cruelty is very harmful to the Progressive movement.  

    I was wise enough to never grow up while fooling most people into believing I had. - Margaret Mead

    by fayea on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:29:51 AM PST

    •  No, they can't (3+ / 0-)
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      which is why people who disagree with this need to organize a new space and make tracks.

      African American POV blog with no Naderish bs: weeseeyou.com

      by GN1927 on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:40:26 AM PST

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    •  He is not the best we have. (3+ / 0-)
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      fireflynw, mightymouse, gardnerjf

      "I still have hope for a peaceful, clean world where citizens can be employed and have decent health care."  Then support primary challenges to Obama.  Because it's absolutely clear he's going to keep governing as a Republican for the next two years.

      Dems lose when they act as wannabe Republicans.  They win when they act like actual Democrats.  Asking liberals not to hurt the President's fee-fees is not going to win any votes.  Actual policy fights -- jobs bills, stimulus bills, ending the wars he promised to end -- those will not only improve the country, they'll win votes too.

      •  Any party loses when it turns into (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
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        a circular firing squad.  Perhaps Obama is not the best we have but he is the POTUS.  A primary challenge will guarantee a Repub victory.  
        Even if he governs as a Republican, it would be Republican-lite.  He's no Karl Rove, no Dick Cheney, no Bush, no Palin, no Huckabee.  
        Sadly we are descending back into another time to support the lessor of the evils.  The corporatists are gaining ground.  At least with Obama there is some fighting back.  Note the work of Elizabeth Warren.  McCain would not have appointed her.  
        It's not about not hurting the POTUS's feelings.  It's about actual policy fights and the actual chance we have of winning any of those if we divide our loyalties and let the Repubs win.  

        I was wise enough to never grow up while fooling most people into believing I had. - Margaret Mead

        by fayea on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:58:58 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  I think the message here (3+ / 0-)
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      is that a LOT of people have already past through the "respectfully disagree" phase. I too was a bit stunned by the lack of comments from Obama supporters in this and the "soul searching" story.

      I'm not knocking Obama supporters. I was a pretty ardent supporter myself until relatively recently. Now, I don't know. But I do know a tremendous opportunity to advance a progressive agenda has been lost. And we'll all pay the price for that.

      "Hey, remember that time we cut taxes for all the rich people and then at the end of the decade EVERYONE LOST THEIR JOBS AND THEIR HOMES?" -- Ministry of Truth

      by nonprofit jim on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:55:59 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Criticize in a respectful way? (3+ / 0-)

      Sorry. He lost that right when he had his surrogates attack the base as "retards", "drug users", and "whiners". Respect is a 2-way street. This in addition to the comments today which are an insult to our intelligence. When is Obama going to figure out there is no Broderite base out there?

      It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether I win or lose - Bill Walton

      by jhecht on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:03:58 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  It's not about Obama's right or what he (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        vcmvo2, Benintn

        deserves. It's about what you and I deserve, and all the people who are not multimillionaires.  With all his flaws, Obama is still better in the spot as POTUS than Palin or Romney or any other Repub.  

        I really think this type of destructive criticism sapped the enthusiasm of the would-be Dem voters this election cycle and we got "shellacked" for it.  You blame Obama.  I blame those who use vicious negative language in criticizing Dems.  IMHO that sort of self indulgence falls on the ears of the younger voters making them really not excited about voting in this election.

        People like to vote for winners.  When we won the health care law, instead of running all over the field declaring victory, we whined about what it lacked.  Most low information voters still have no idea what the law did or did not contain.  All they see is that the "winners" didn't act like winners.  We acted like whiners.  Who is gonna vote for that?

        To win, we the people of the Democratic Party, must connect emotionally with the voters.  Obama did a great job of it during the campaign, then he passed the ball to us.  We completely dropped the emotional charge and began to use a microscope on the ball.  And did it publicly.  Now the Dem public personna is that of a scattered mess.  

        The deep policy analytical stuff is fine in private, but in public, and I allege that this website is very public, unit cohesion should be maintained.  Not lockstep, but using the respectful language that people who intend to maintain a relationship use.  

        I was wise enough to never grow up while fooling most people into believing I had. - Margaret Mead

        by fayea on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:26:52 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Where does one even begin with this comment? (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Diebold Hacker

      There's an old saying that goes "politics ain't beanbag." If Obama can keep playing this same horrible tune over and over and over and over and over he (and his supporters) have to expect that his actions are going to elicit a strong response.

      This self righteous lambasting of Obama and other Dems may make you feel good but it is one of the reasons Dems lose

      Ah, the old refrain of the supporters. So comforting, so warming, so fucking wrong. Here's a clue, and for free: quit blaming the base of the Democratic Party for the faults and shortcomings of elected fucking politicians who get paid to play this game. People here aren't "self-righteous" when they criticize Obama for truly inexplicable shit like the sentiment that spawned this post - they are RIGHT. Democrats don't lose when their base criticizes them for acting like Republicans - they lose when they act like fucking Republicans.

      I just love how we're told by the supporters that criticism of the president hurts turnout and the Dems chances; apparently self-awareness isn't one of their strong suits. Look in the fucking mirror - criticizing that portion of the base who choose to criticize an elected politician - which the administration has done REPEATEDLY, and which the supporters do here daily - is just as toxic to "turnout" as any of the criticism leveled at the WH or the spineless, worthless Dems in Congress.

      No, I am not saying STFU.  No, I am not saying don't criticize.   But do the criticism in a respectful way.  Be respectful and kind of another human being who happens to be the POTUS.  This jeering cruelty is very harmful to the Progressive movement.  

      Oh, deary me, the vapors, the vapors, won't someone get me my smelling salts. Need...salts...or...might...faint. J. F. C. If you think our criticism is "jeering cruelty," I advise you never to read a newspaper's LTE section. The difference is those on this site that criticize really do want the best for - and from - the president, believe it or not. However, he has taken the tack that he wants to apparently attempt FURTHER appeasement with those who loathe him and any semblance of progress. I'm sorry, but this line of thinking shows he's either in a permanent psychotic state, or he really does want what the fucking Republicans want. Calling him out on it doesn't help elect Republicans; his BEHAVIOR helps elect Republicans.

      /end rant

  •  One Term (4+ / 0-)
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    This:

    In that obsessive focus on policy, I neglected some things that matter a lot to people, and rightly so: maintaining a bipartisan tone in Washington; dealing with practices like earmarks that are wasteful at a time where everybody else is tightening their belts;

    Gets This:

    I'm going to redouble my efforts to go back to some of those first principles.

    Which Gets Obama One Term. Period.

    ...Is it Too Late to get Howard Dean back into the Game?  We at least won when he was involved.  

    ... the watchword of true patriotism: "Our country - when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right." - Carl Schurz; Oct. 17, 1899

    by NevDem on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:30:20 AM PST

    •  Howard Dean wasn't elected by the general public (1+ / 0-)
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      He was hugely effective, don't get me wrong. But his presidential campaign foundered, and he was most effective in a non-elected position.

      As much as I'd love a President Dean, I'm not sure I like our chances of getting him elected. And having a leader with great ideas but little chance of getting them enacted doesn't seem like that great of a deal, really.

      Deoliver47 was right and deserves some apologies.

      by seancdaug on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:33:44 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Bring back Dr. Dean at DNC (5+ / 0-)

      Tim Kaine must go.  He's ineffective.  At this point, the Dems need to rally the base.  The best person for the job is Dr. Dean.

      "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

      by noofsh on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:38:17 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  This I agree with wholeheartedly (1+ / 0-)
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        PsychoSavannah

        If we can't get Dean back, can we at least get someone with a little more fire in his (or her) belly? While you can argue that you need someone who's able to at least appear above the fray as president, there's little benefit to that as the head of the DNC.

        Deoliver47 was right and deserves some apologies.

        by seancdaug on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:41:26 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  "Rally the base" may be all there is to get (0+ / 0-)

        out of the 2012 election. We've got to start thinking long term, because the short term is looking worse by the day.

        I hope to gawd that teabaggers manage to get Palin front and center for 2012, because we're going to lose the White House without her.

      •  the people wanna see Tim jiggle the keys again (0+ / 0-)

        that was inspirational

        Sometimes all you can do is sing gospel music - Gram Parsons

        by mightymouse on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:09:49 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Words and actions (3+ / 0-)
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    I'm willing, I suppose, to forgive the rhetoric of bipartisanship if its accompanied with a realization that its unlikely to be reciprocated. Rightly or wrongly, the meme of bipartisanship still appeals to the public.

    Has Obama realized this distinction, though? In some ways, I give him credit for actually accomplishing a lot despite the most openly hostile opposition in as long as I can remember. So he's probably been doing something right. But in other (and to this crowd, patently obvious) ways, he's let himself be stymied in the past by a minority that's exercised a lot more power than one would think possible. And the way he keeps appealing to bipartisanship in spite of all the evidence that it's not working certainly makes him look weak in the eyes of the Democratic Party base, if not the public at large.

    Despite everything, I still have a lot of respect for Obama's ability to get things done. But the political environment certainly hasn't improved for him, so I'm not entirely convinced that this approach is going to be effective, if indeed it ever was in the first place.

    Deoliver47 was right and deserves some apologies.

    by seancdaug on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:30:23 AM PST

  •  Has he gone insane? (4+ / 0-)

    "In that obsessive focus on policy, I neglected some things that matter a lot to people, and rightly so: maintaining a bipartisan tone in Washington; dealing with practices like earmarks that are wasteful at a time where everybody else is tightening their belts;"

    that is really what he thinks? Or is he so blind that he's blindly repeating what some shmo from the Blue Dogs are feeding him?

    No one cares about deficits and no one cares whether you are "bipartisan" - just improve their and their kids' lots in life - that's what people care about.

    It is maddening how he keeps going back to this bipartisan bullshit - I know he's not stupid, so why can't he see this?

    •  People *do* care about deficits, actually... (0+ / 0-)

      ...because the Republicans (with help from a number of conservative Democrats) have successfully defined that as one of the "big issues."

      The real problem here isn't that Obama is back to talking about bipartisanship, which is pretty much de rigeur in politics (even Bush did it). It's that in doing so he lets himself be entirely reactive. He's responding to an agenda set by others. I have criticized others for overestimating the direct political power of the POTUS, but the one thing the office is absolutely good for is messaging. And Obama has not been anywhere near as good at promulgating a message as president as he was while campaigning for the office.

      Talking about bipartisanship is fine. Parroting Eric Cantor is rather less so.

      Deoliver47 was right and deserves some apologies.

      by seancdaug on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:38:49 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  yes (1+ / 0-)
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        talk is fine, but also how you talk about is important. To me, he presents it as if he's failed the American people almost b/c he wasn't bipartisan enough...when it's really the other side who was completely unwilling to walk 1 inch toward compromise.

        So, then when he says he must redouble efforts - what else is he going to do? Endorse the Republican platform?

  •  So sad how weak he's become (3+ / 0-)
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    He does nothing but second guess himself these days. The Republicans have convinced him to be afraid of himself.

  •  What Does It Take To Get Him Mad? (10+ / 0-)

    Eric Cantor just went to NYC & openly negotiated w/ Netanyahu without fear of reprisal.  He even bragged about it.  Cantor violated the Logan Act.  He committed a felony.  Even Israeli officials were stunned at his arrogance.

    Nothing will happen.  Obama will just keep taking it.  And they will get reelected.....while Obama keeps searching for just the right bipartisan tone.  

  •  Someone better get this guy (7+ / 0-)

    to shut his mouth while there's still a little something left. What a weakling. The Repigs have called Obama every insulting name (literally) in the books. And here he is, groveling.

    Pathetic.

    As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he ever were to break wind in the echo chamber, he would never hear the end of it. --Bulwer-Lytton Contest entry

    by Wom Bat on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:35:36 AM PST

  •  Neglected Some Things? (2+ / 0-)
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    Mehitabel9, DKinUT

    He had all those fact-finding, town-hall style meetings with his opposition. What more was he supposed to have done to advance bipartisanship? Take an abortion doctor assassin gun shopping?

  •  He failed to maintain a (2+ / 0-)
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    bipartisan tone in Washington?  Is he nuts?  
    If he got anymore bipartisan, he'd need a hose.

    Don't tax the rich, starve the poor.

    by dkmich on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:36:35 AM PST

  •  Simply pathetic. This is not a President talking. (14+ / 0-)

    It's the Republicans' squeak toy squeaking.  And, like a squeak toy, when he squeaks, the Republicans bite him again.  

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:36:41 AM PST

  •  Oh geez (2+ / 0-)
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    slinkerwink, FlamingoGrrl

    So the Republicans screw him over anyway they can and Obama takes the blame ...

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:36:45 AM PST

  •  It's getting harder to argue with those who say (3+ / 0-)
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    that it's all kabuki.

    What is valued is practiced. What is not valued is not practiced. -- Plato

    by RobLewis on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:36:52 AM PST

  •  He doesn't see the result of our disappointment (2+ / 0-)
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    slinkerwink, DKinUT

    here on the left. Because that lack of enthusiasm is what sunk him in the end. All because he didn't start the bidding high with room to come down. Because he tried to let congress do too much of the work without a strong directive. Because he didn't insist Harry Reid (who won Nevada by rallying his base) play bad cop to his good cop.

    He went in with a huge cheering section but by the start of year 2 an enthusiastic left went silent. Even if he had fewer successes passing some legislation, if they were bold neo-New Deal style policies we would have been much more all over congress to enact it. There would have been much more balanced discussions of Keynsian policies, of New Deal policies, of post WWII policies, of a public option, etc. if he'd started from slightly left then most of us here and then settled on at least left of center results (I'm pragmatic here; if the Kos community got 1/3 of everything we hoped for that would be huge for a 2 year time frame). That would have given the swing voters a lot more reason to see that he was at least TRYING for change. And might have made the obstinate GOP look like the bad guys holding everything up.

    Frankly, he was a bit weak. I'm glad he sees it. And the cure is...? To not capitulate as much and take a MUCH firmer hand over policy. But I'm a bit afraid that he'll miss that point too. I hope not. I still think he's smart and capable. But he needs to change strategies and stand UP for the left.

  •  Piling on... (4+ / 0-)
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    And another thing.  Earmarks.  Falling for teabagger framing.  Earmarks do not add a single dime to the deficit.  They are items that direct money already in a bill to a specific project.  In other words, the funds are already allocated in the bill, the earmark just says how that money is to be spent.

    QE2 will be our Titanic.

    by RichM on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:40:15 AM PST

  •  Banging my head on my desk....... (2+ / 0-)
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    AustinSF, DKinUT

    We all have photographic memories. Some people just don't have any film.

    by fireflynw on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:41:31 AM PST

  •  Sad and Pathetic (2+ / 0-)
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    AustinSF, DKinUT

    Obama acts like an abused spouse who is looking for a little loving.

    What an embarrassment.

  •  If the economy recovers, (1+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse

    all his personality flaws will once again look like virtues and when he wins re-election easily a lot of his current critics from the left will tell us how they saw the big picture too, just like Obama.

  •  blood in the water, (1+ / 0-)
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    James Kresnik

    sharks all around,
    who will be allowed to fight?
    who will be left to trust?

    The Addington perpwalk is the trailhead for accountability in this wound on our national psyche. [...you know: Dick Cheney's "top" lawyer.] --Sachem

    by greenbird on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:44:28 AM PST

  •  Oh, stop being so negative and clap louder (2+ / 0-)
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    AustinSF, DKinUT

    n/t

  •  Has he never been in politics a day in his life? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    DKinUT
  •  People didn't get it in November (2+ / 0-)
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    FlamingoGrrl, A Runner

    I don't think liberals realize what's at stake.

    I don't think they care about what's at stake until they feel pain. Two years of Republican rule in the House and in state legislatures might wake people up to the fact that whatever they were doing that kept them from mailing in a ballot was probably less compelling than stopping the GOP hell coming their way.

    The American people get millions of votes but only if the use them. Millions did not during the midterms. The outcome of the November elections, secured by non-voters, was singlehandedly the stupidest strategy ever to achieve progressive goals.

  •  I call B.S. (0+ / 0-)

    Obama knew he was elected to fix the job economy and to end phony war entanglements.  Instead he ran for the history books and pushed health care.

    •  health care and the economy (1+ / 0-)
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      PsychoSavannah

      are inextricably intertwined.  

      I'm not 100% pleased with the way the health care reform turned out, but I certainly don't regret that Democrats tried.

      In the sea, Biscayne, there prinks
      The young emerald evening star,
      Good light for drunkards, poets, widows,
      And ladies soon to be married.

      by looty on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:00:07 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  c'mon priorities, priorities, priorities (0+ / 0-)

        Health care is a future problem.   Fixing jobs is today. Fixing Bush wars is today. Obama screwed up.

      •  Agree but... (0+ / 0-)

        the economy HAD to come first. It was the priority of the people. I don't regret the Health Care debate. What I regret is that:
        1.Obama didn't get Harry Reid on board the "full-steam ahead" train BEFORE it left the station(it did leave, didn't it?)
        2.Obama(and Reid) wasted months trying to get a CollinSnowe vote that was never gonna happen.
        3.Obama killed the public option practically before the option became public.
        4.Who the FRACK ran that issue for the Dems anyway? It wasn't "I Love The Sidelines" Obama and it wasn't "I'll Mosey Along" Reid either. Pelosi tried but she had the hardest sell with Blue Dogs. She did great but she could hardly lead on the issue.

        There's that old saying...Timing is everything. It was just bad timing to push health care during the financial crisis WITHOUT multitasking on jobs and the economy. Obama DID say he could multitask, right?

  •  As of November 3, 2008, the official (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    FlamingoGrrl, Russycle

    disintegration of the gop will be swift - backbiting, rudderless, out of touch, branding issues.

    Liberal policy will rule for a decade to come.

    //awakes from two year slumber\\

    Did I miss anything?

  •  Obama Fail Part 2 (1+ / 0-)
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    DKinUT

    Talk about validating the opinion of your political enemies...my god. I can just hear the boner's maniacal laugh emanating from the House as we speak...told you so America...even the President knows he was to blame for the lack of civility in Washington DC. God knows we tried to work with the man, but it was obvious he just was not trying. As a parent when you see this type of behavior from an inexperienced child...you just have to say no...and that just what we did with the President. You cant believe how much this pained me to do (start false tears now)...but as an adult I knew it must be done for the good of the country and to make him a better man. Thank goodness as a Christian man I can forgive him. I will be looking forward to sending him our list of tax and social programs he can now compassionately kill.

    •  YES!!! (0+ / 0-)

      I can hardly stand to see Obama up there claiming he didn't do enough to get along. Republicans pissed on him constantly and he's suggesting he should have asked: "Please sir, can I have some more?"

      Dear Democrats,

      If you have an extra ball, could you please send Obama one? He seems to have mislaid his peas.

  •  Hate to say it, but Dems bought a lemon in Obama (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Is he doing this to encourage a "PC" ? (0+ / 0-)

    PC (Primary Challenger) I mean maybe he wants one. We are in real trouble folks. PC or not. I do not support PC at this time. I have HOPE that Barrack will be his own CHANGE. Though he has never once indicated he agrees with much of anything said here at DailyKOS these last 2 years. Do you think a legitimate PC (one who could would get broad Dem Progressive support) will challenge him? I think everyday I am moving closer to perhaps "yes". Barrack and Company are clueless. I am not sure I want to support this any longer. I know giving up on Barrack though most likely means GOP wins White House in 2013. Hell It might be well on it's way to that already - no matter. This is not the type of Democrat I can support much longer. I want a kick'ass, "take names" TRUMAN/FDR type Democrat in the White House. Now it's too late for much of that out of Barrack. My 2 cents. Now back to Bi-Partisan insanity.

    2010 > Elect Rebecca Kaplan - Mayor of Oakland ------ Jerry Brown - CA Governor

    by AustinSF on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 09:55:14 AM PST

  •  Remind me again why we should be standing (3+ / 0-)
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    AustinSF, Big Tex, A Runner

    up for someone who won't even stand up for himself?

    "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

    by justmy2 on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:02:07 AM PST

  •  I didn't vote for this. (2+ / 0-)
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    AustinSF, mightymouse

    Please get a spine and fight for something.

  •  So be like Bush and never admit mistakes? (0+ / 0-)

    Is that what we're recommending?

    My how things have changed.

    His list is silly. It includes things people don't care about (maintaining a bipartisan tone) while leaving off the single biggest problem: ignoring the jobs and economy issue to mess around with the disastrous Obamacare bill.

    "Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth." -- JFK

    by Tryptophan on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:11:15 AM PST

  •  Dear Mr. President: (0+ / 0-)

    If you can learn anything from the midterms it should be this. It doesn't matter if Goldman Sachs is happy if most of America is either out of work, doesn't have enough work or is afraid they are going to be out of work.  See Goldman Sachs has maybe a few hundred votes - that other group has millions.

    You idiot, the voters want their lives to be better. They don't care that the bankers were protected and didn't lose their investment. They don't care that Pete Peterson doesn't like Social Security and sees a way to destroy it. They care about health insurance, but if they don't have a job they can't get it anyway. And THEY SURE AS HELL DON'T CARE ABOUT BIPARTISANSHIP. I realize that hasn't been your concern, but you need to make it your concern because they hold your future in their hands. You really need to be a two term President.

    So if you want to keep your job, stop apologizing. Stop playing nice in order to get little or nothing done. Let the friggin' Bush tax increase go through (phrase it that way, and pointing out that it didn't create jobs either  would also be good).  Now focus on jobs. Start moving money around to repair the electrical grid, repair bridges, clean up the parks and just friggin' hire people. And give your lieutants particularly Harry and Nancy the right to crush any Democrat who gets in the way of that or even helps Republicans. Steamroll anything to drop unemployment to 5% or less in two years.

    Otherwise, sayonara. See the payday isn't going to be so great as you are now and always will be hired help to the oligarchs, you were a way station while they got one of their own in. Don't ever forget it. You better leave office popular to achieve anything like what you are imagining. People will need to want to come see you, listen to what you say, buy your books or you can be Jimmy Carter without the principles and public work ethic.  I mean that should be obvious to you, but sadly it has become clear over the last year that obvious escapes you. As I said you need to be a two term President.

    So wake up, smell the manure you have been rolling in, and realize that the only way out is to do the job you were elected to do, not the one the robber barons selected you to do. Or resign yourself to the sty.

  •  You sound quite concerned Jed, But I wonder (1+ / 0-)
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    DigDug

    why it would bother you so much that he doesn't tout his accomplishments when you don't think he has any accomplishment to tout in the first. To read your offerings over the last 18 months I can't think of anything Obama has done that would pass as an accomplishment to you. So spare us the fake concern please.

    scientia potentia est - Francis Bacon "...knowledge itself is power."

    by factPlusContextAlmostTruth on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:18:07 AM PST

  •  Junk Presidency (1+ / 0-)
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    AustinSF

    like the Junk insurance that we'll all be required to buy -- seems like it'll do some good on paper, but in the end does nothing. And both are essentially corporate enrichment mechanisms. Obama has compromised himself out of a job. I was hoping he could scare the Senate into action, but looks like they took all his fire away.

    And I worked like hell to get him elected and have been giving him the benefit of a doubt since. I still think he's a good man, but now I think we need a tough asshole to bust some heads in Washington, not a temperate, Ivy-groomed intellectual.

  •  Obama is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome (2+ / 0-)
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    DKinUT, Nancy on Lake Michigan

    He's allowed himself to be held hostage by Republicans for two years, and now he's identifying and sympathizing with them.

    I expect he will campaign against himself in 2012.

  •  Obama needs o stop the public navel-gazing eom (0+ / 0-)

    the future begins

    by zozie on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 10:32:41 AM PST

  •  Is he mental? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    DKinUT

    In that obsessive focus on policy, I neglected some things that matter a lot to people, and rightly so: maintaining a bipartisan tone in Washington;

    Is he disingenuous?

    Or is he just stupid?

    Honest to fucking god.   Tone matters more than results?   Really?  

    Tone matters more than results to, say, the 50 million uninsured Americans who saw little to no benefit from HCR, or the 10% of Americans who can't find work and are desperately trying to keep roofs over their heads and food on their tables against seemingly insurmountable odds while the richest 2% continue to amass obscene amounts of wealth and the corporations continue their relentless takeover of our government while the Administration and Congress stand by and do nothing?

    REALLY??????

    Mr. President, I've tried and tried and tried to find reasons to keep supporting you, but you just lost me, once and for all.   You suck.

    Jesus H. Chocolate Christ on a popsicle stick.  

  •  I think (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    DKinUT

    Obama means well when he makes statements like this.  I think he is a good man who is trying to make things right.  I also think he has just underestimated his opponents and I hope and pray that it won't be his undoing, or our's.  I am starting to be very, very afraid that it will.

  •  Semantics (0+ / 0-)

    Obama: ...making sure that the policy decisions that I made were fully debated with the American people and that I was getting out of Washington and spending more time shaping public opinion and being in a conversation with the American people about why I was making the choices I was making.

    Jed: President Obama should be touting his accomplishments and pushing to achieve even more.

    It appears that Obama is saying what you are saying.  Obviously he can't say that he needs to tout his accomplishments more, but he apparently understands that it's vital for him to get out and explain to the American public what he is doing and why it is important.

  •  Part of the Problem (1+ / 0-)
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    DKinUT

    I think part of the problem with Obama is that he and his administration were far too concerned about him being portayed as being personally defeated if any particular policy that he backed was defeated.  

    By not vigorously arguing publicly for policy that he wanted and not explaining repeated why it was important and praising the policy once it was signed, Obama often appeared detached and standoffish.  

    Obama and his administration must understand that it's not important how many fights you lose, but rather how many times you stand up and fight.  Win or lose, Americans want a president who will fight for them.  

  •  Obama: I was mean (1+ / 0-)
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    DKinUT

    WASHINGTON (Nov. 15) -- President Obama admitted today that he had been "grumpy" with Republicans and said he would make amends by what he termed the Executive Care Bears Initiative, "if that's okay with everybody."  

    "It's okay to be grumpy sometimes," Obama told reporters. "But I've learned that it is also silly to let grumpiness go too far."

    White House staff members confirmed that they have been issued Tummy Symbols.

  •  Compromise? Bah! (0+ / 0-)

    There's some classic screen dialog about compromise . . .

    Brett: Compromise?
    Jules: What country are you from?
    Brett: Compromise? Compromise? Com-?
    Jules: "Compromise" ain't no country I've ever heard of. They speak English in Compromise?
    Brett: Compromise?
    Jules: English, motherfucker, what does Marcellus Wallace look like!
    Brett: Compromise?
    Jules: Say 'Compromise' again. Say 'Compromise' again, I dare you, I double dare you motherfucker, say Compromise one more Goddamn time!

  •  The guy is a hopeless wimp (1+ / 0-)
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    DKinUT
    We really fucked up by nominating him at this particular time in history.  We had an historic opportunity to drive a stake through the heart of movement conservatism with the financial implosion in 2008 and we elected someone who is fundamentally tempermentally incapable of exploiting the circumstances.  The opportunity is gone.  Squandered.  Spent on a health insurance bailout scheme.  And he's still looking for somebody's ass to kiss.
  •  A better title for this: (0+ / 0-)
    "Newspaper Headline Fail."  Honestly, these headlines are designed to drive the narrative.  Just go to HuffPost and you'll see plenty of examples.

    Cold hearted orb/That rules the night/Removes the colours From our sight/Red is gray and/Yellow white/But we decide/Which is right/And/Which is an Illusion

    by KingofSpades on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 12:23:36 PM PST

  •  Who, in the name of God, is the target audience (0+ / 0-)
    for this mush?  
    Just shoot me now!
  •  The true death knell will be when (0+ / 0-)

    he brings on David Gurgle as some kind of special advisor.  

  •  Please, not while I'm eating! (0+ / 0-)

    The verdict is in, President Obama = Neville Chamberlain

    Dems we/you are DOOMED.

    There is no hope.

    Obama will NEVER get it.

    He will dance with the GOP while they carve him up for dinner, and as they do so he'll beg them to take more pounds of flesh.

    I never thought I'd ever think Obama was a STUPID man, but I'm unavoidably drawn to no other conclusion.

    What separates us, divides us, and diminishes the human spirit.

    by equern on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 02:11:56 PM PST

  •  Well, if he blames himself, (0+ / 0-)

    he and I are finally in agreement on something! Progress!

    How far to the right do the Dems have to move before you stop calling them Dems?

    by Diebold Hacker on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 05:02:56 PM PST

  •  Someone please show the President (0+ / 0-)

    the Charlie Brown/football/Lucy comic strip...  any of them would do, more than one would be more effective.

    Kick apart the structures - Seth

    by ceebee7 on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 05:31:00 PM PST

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