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OK, not much of a diary as we have had enough about this (probably more than about Hillary v. Obama back in 2008), but I have not yet seen a poll on where we stand as a community.

I want to find out where Kossacks stand on this issue, so please take the (clearly unscientific) poll trying to gauge where we are as a reality based community.  If there are any diaries or FP articles with polls, please direct me to those in the comments.

Also interesting would be for people to add in comments any public polls on this issue.

Thank you very much.

Originally posted to DefendOurConstitution on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:15 AM PST.


Which of the following best describes the tax cut deal?

1%2 votes
11%17 votes
3%5 votes
1%2 votes
8%12 votes
26%37 votes
21%31 votes
25%36 votes

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  •  How do we feel about this deal? (4+ / 0-)
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    jfdunphy, SuetheRedWA, cazcee, laker

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:15:27 AM PST

    •  I feel like I have for a long time... (5+ / 0-)

      I am done with Obama and the Dems. Each added reminder of why is just another layer of burn to the loaf, which, remember, as I said, was done long before. It was his union thwacking on education, his neoliberal policy there, that "done" the deal for me.

      I must say, re how the MSM feels...

      I havent seen this much unbridled contempt for the Left since... I guess since Howard Dean ran for president. (And he wasnt even all that far left!)

      Doing some paperwork, sampling the morning bullshite.

      Matthews show was a vomitorium... so gawdawful, perhaps the gawdawfulest thus far, although I havent yet sampled Meet the Press/ed and Preening. This Week was gawdawful in the Cokie seat (is that woman dysfunctioning on half a brain... or is it down to a quarter by now? By God, is she stupid!) Paul Krugman was peachy, said he would have let the tax cuts go to their death (right on!), but then of course, he was the only LIBERAL (sane) voice of the bunch.

      Actually, the Matthews' bunch was excessively liberal... with their hippie punching. The hippie beatdown was, hands down, the centerpiece of their pleasure, the font from which they drank with wild, joyous abandon. They couldnt find enough ways or occasions to say: "Fuck the Liberals, Yay! He's saying 'Fuck you' to the liberals! Oh happy day!" Of course, there was the obligatory sneer laced: "Where ELSE are they going to go?!" One woman, NYT reporter, cant recall her name, said this was a marvelous week for Obama. They all did a happy dance (like children, very stupid children) around the maypole of Centrism, la lalala lala la!

      The ugliest display of human behavior I have seen all week.

      Should a "progressive" Dem blog dwell in the safe zones of a tame party, or should it drive a tame party to break out?

      by NYCee on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 12:06:30 PM PST

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  •  Answering Your Question (9+ / 0-)

    Where do we stand as a community on the tax cuts?

    As approximately 300,000 individuals with an opinion.

    There is no community consensus and it sure would be great if folks stop trying to insist there is one or should be one.

    If you don't stand for something, you will go for anything. Visit Maat's Feather

    by shanikka on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:18:39 AM PST

  •  Clearly unscientific? (5+ / 0-)

    Not to mention nearly every question was loaded.  

    Why not include the option of "I disagree with President Obama because black people shouldn't be President?"  That's about as absurd as everything else on this "poll."    

  •  poll options need help (3+ / 0-)

    simplify it

    Yes, I support the deal

    No, I don't support the deal

    Te conozco bacalao, aunque vengas disfrazado - Hector LaVoe

    by mightymouse on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:21:35 AM PST

  •  One reason I dislike the deal (8+ / 0-)

    though it is sold as compromise (everyone gets a little), viewed from another direction it is straight up GOP-ism - destroy the government by defunding it.

    nowhere do we see where more money is coming in in this deal.

    saying "I'll give you your tax cut if you give me mine" is GOP. They buy the lower classes with "tax cuts" and then take more than what the tax cut was worth.

    Te conozco bacalao, aunque vengas disfrazado - Hector LaVoe

    by mightymouse on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:24:26 AM PST

    •  The two-Santa-Claus theory (3+ / 0-)
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      jfdunphy, mightymouse, laker

      has Democrats providing social services and Republicons cutting taxes. This deal is all Republicon Santa Claus being owned by the Democratic Santa Claus.

      Two Santa Clauses, Jude Wanniski

      The problem is that the tax cuts only end up causing problems, such as increasing the debt. Now we're going to own a brand new chunk of that debt and Democrats will also be blamed for the lack of response from the economy in general.

      Suddenly I've changed from being a social liberal/fiscal conservative to sanctimonious purist.

      by RustyCannon on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 12:53:29 PM PST

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  •  Tomorrow is Monday. (2+ / 0-)
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    blueoasis, Roger Fox

    How does the community feel about that?

    "Education is dangerous - Every educated person is a future enemy" Hermann Goering (NRSC?)

    by irate on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:28:05 AM PST

  •  nice straw dog poll (6+ / 0-)

    I voted for Palin as that was the only alternative given to accepting Republican policy disguised as pragmatism. Double think and speak.  Fear does not work so stop offering people false choices. It didn't work in the midterms and it's really not going to work if that's all you got. The tax deal is one in a long line of deal breakers, between we the people and this administration.

    It started with his FISA and for me this is the end of the line. Pathetic. How do I know whether not I can stomach voting for Obama? It depends on whether or not this administration continues being nothing more then the so called center of the one corporate party. I'm not holding my breath and will actively work to get a Democrat from the democratic wing of the party elected. If it's not Obama then so be it. I will not have my vote extorted on top of everything else they are taking.

    'If this is a deal breaker then so be it' Barrack Obama, on voting for FISA      

  •  You don't need to look to far (3+ / 0-)

    to know where majority of kossacks stand on this deal.

    MSNBC - ( Keith + Rachel ) = FOX

    by indepenocrat on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:38:37 AM PST

  •  Both not working - let the tax cuts expire (6+ / 0-)

    I've not had a job in three years, and my wife for about a year. Despite the need for the Unemployment Extension for my wife (I'm no longer eligible, and no, I am not a 99er), we both would rather stick needles in our eyes, than let the richest 2% get more money than God.

  •  This is not about Obama (5+ / 0-)

    It's about the future.  I was ready to accept the "compromise" as the best we were going to get.  However after listening to Senator Sanders, whom I trust much more than any democrat including the President, I want democrats to go to the mat and stop the current "deal" in its tracks.  I still like President Obama, but IMHO the administration is just flat wrong on this one.

  •  Stop talking about the Bush TAX CUTS (3+ / 0-)

    I feel it limits the conversation to whether we should have a top rate of 35 or 39%, instead of what actually is good tax policy.

    Lets start with when do we repeal the REAGAN TAX CUTS ??

    FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

    by Roger Fox on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:53:46 AM PST

  •  I feel like taking ONE stand on "tax cuts" (1+ / 0-)
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    in general is a very Republican way of thinking.

    Donk is a poker term for someone who is really bad at "the game". Still, a poor choice in name I guess.

    by DonkSlayer on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 12:11:41 PM PST

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