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...I would argue that it would bite the air where you used to be five minutes before when you clicked a link and tried to navigate somewhere.

Here are the problems I am experiencing:

1. SLOW. Like, 2400 baud dial-up slow (man I'm old). Doesn't matter what I'm doing - it's slow.
2. Comment posting - highly problematic. I enter my comment, click the required "preview", wait (sometimes a while) for the preview to become visible, and then click "post". One of several things happen at this point: a) the little progress circle thingy grinds and grinds; b) after that, it either takes me back to my comment preview and prompts without explanation that I need to post it; or c) I get a generic error message. Meanwhile, if I click on my comments and wait the forever time for the page to load, I see that the comment has actually posted - occasionally MULTIPLE times.
3. If there's a way for me to change how I view comments so that the most recent ones appear at the TOP of a diary or story's comments, I can't find it.
4. And here's another - can't seem to preview or post this diary. If you wind up reading it, apparently the problem fixed itself.

What trouble are you experiencing? I am on Mac OS 10.6 running Safari 5.0 as a browser. Please include your OS and browser in your comment!!

UPDATE:

1. Had to switch to XP and IE 7.0 (in other words, I booted up my work laptop PC) to post this diary AT ALL.
2. Posted a comment below - in another tab, it shows the comment preview and continually tells me to post the comment.
3. In yet another tab, the progress bar for publishing this already published diary still tells me that it's publishing.

NOT ready for primetime. It's not a question of groups or layout or anything - the BASIC FUNCTIONALITY isn't working for me on either of my computers.

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  •  Additionally... (9+ / 0-)

    I've had to switch to my Windows XP PC running IE 7.0 to publish this diary AT ALL.  

    In another tab of my browser, I am currently looking at the status window that says "publishing" for this very diary, when it is clearly published.

    I'm all for embracing the new layout and feature/functionality of DK4. But these issues are rudiments - basic stuff like commenting and posting diaries are not working correctly.

    My opinion?  At this point - NOT ready for primetime.

  •  slooooooooooow (7+ / 0-)

    yes, it is incredibly slow for me as well - Firefox 3.6 and WindowsXP.

    Sometimes the link just doesn't load - goes blank. Other times I get some weird error - couldn't decide if this was a real bug or just an error, so I didn't report it.

    But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, the new site is swell.

    I'm a Bobby Kennedy Democrat

    by docstymie on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:19:49 AM PST

    •  Clicked to "recommend" your (9+ / 0-)

      comment.  Never posted.

      It literally took me the last 10 minutes to get back to the "Discuss" part of this diary so that I could actually see and respond to comments.

      Wow - pretty big issues I'd say.

    •  Well, first "reply" so we will see. Slow? Yes! (1+ / 0-)
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      Sharoney

      Mac OS X, Firefox 3.6.13 and yes, pages fail to load with a great blank space the only result. Slug napping slow for others.

      Personal preference is not so much white space. It is a bit glaring and also, for me, like watered down media, disperses content into "visuals" that mean little to me.

      I expect it is going to go through quite a few teething problems. From some time managing large system development one of the worst things one can do is introduce a buggy product. It is often better to slip schedule a bit rather than accumulate "bad vibes" that tend to stick--even if some is just prejudice.

      The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

      by pelagicray on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:17:52 AM PST

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    •  Well, first "reply" so we will see. Slow? Yes! (0+ / 0-)

      Mac OS X, Firefox 3.6.13 and yes, pages fail to load with a great blank space the only result. Slug napping slow for others.

      Personal preference is not so much white space. It is a bit glaring and also, for me, like watered down media, disperses content into "visuals" that mean little to me.

      I expect it is going to go through quite a few teething problems. From some time managing large system development one of the worst things one can do is introduce a buggy product. It is often better to slip schedule a bit rather than accumulate "bad vibes" that tend to stick--even if some is just prejudice.

      [Well, this will be my third click of "Post" with recycling back to "Preview" so there will either be multiple posts, one post or I'll just quit!]

      The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

      by pelagicray on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:19:56 AM PST

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  •  The site speed has changed (6+ / 0-)

    to horribly slow since it went online this morning.

    Maybe they are still tweaking?

    Of all the varieties of virtues, liberalism is the most beloved. ~ Aristotle

    by Coldblue Steele on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:22:48 AM PST

  •  Incredibly... (5+ / 0-)
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    Cedwyn, RenaRF, kestrel9000, slksfca, Onomastic

    painfully slow.  I am using Win7 and Safari (a switch to IE 8 helped a little with speed, but not so much that it makes it less painfull).  

  •  Slow... (7+ / 0-)

    it really does harken back to those sweet sweet days of dialup. Half the time I finally get somewhere the page is blank. Can't seem to publish a diary. Should I go on? Will this comment ever appear?

    PC w/Firefox

    Is that a real poncho, or is that a Sears' poncho? - Frank Zappa

    by JoesGarage on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:23:36 AM PST

  •  Anticipation ... (7+ / 0-)

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:26:21 AM PST

  •  I wouldn't say it's "not ready" for release. (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Sharoney, johanus, RenaRF, mattinjersey

    On a blog with this diverse a platform of users, you just have to get it out there and be ready for the flood of bug reports.

    This kind of release is much, much different from apps or systems which are built to work for a single hardware/firmware/os/software combination. This kind of site with this kind of traffic is a whole different ballgame.

    And because of the open source model, there's not a whole lot of expectation that the "stock" platform be bug-free or industrial-strength.

    "If you think the other side is EVIL, you're part of the problem." -Chris Matthews

    by malharden on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:26:57 AM PST

    •  Mal. (8+ / 0-)

      Seriously.  I'm talking about basic functionality - diary writing and commenting.  The lifeblood and core central activity of the site itself.  Was there not stress testing to scale to the number of users that they know exist?

      •  It Is Embarrassing At This Point (6+ / 0-)

        I get bugs. I get hiccups. I do. I mean I do this shit on a smaller scale for a living. But right now there is something seriously wrong. And again, it is kind of embarrassing.

        When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

        by webranding on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:54:11 AM PST

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      •  It is very hard to truly stress test (1+ / 0-)
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        malharden

        real peak load until you actually go live.

        Looking in from the outside the problems appear not to be functionality related so much as server or database related. As you say, basic stuff isn't working. Or is working yet it doesn't post back a "completed" message and appears to be in error when it's not. That is either a capacity or configuration issue of some sort as is affecting pretty much everything.

        The weird thing is that as far as I can tell Dailykos's peak load is not close to what it was a couple years ago. The total user number climbs but the actually usage is lower as far as I can tell. Nowhere near the number of diaries get posted as at the peak a couple years ago. That's just my observation not based on their actual usage stats but I'm fairly certain I'm right about that. So their server capacity is probably ok... unless they too saw the lower usage and decided the cut back on capacity in this change as well and cut too far... but I'm guessing their is some configuration issue that isn't working as expected with the new software.

        Peace,

        Andrew

        "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

        by Andrew C White on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:24:56 AM PST

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  •  Wait, What Was The Point Of This Diary? (9+ / 0-)

    it took so long to load I forgot.

    All joking aside when I got on today at like 5 AM CST it was lightening fast. Everything worked. Now, well not much is working for me.

    When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

    by webranding on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:29:39 AM PST

  •  Heee-yup (6+ / 0-)

    Webpage error details

    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/4.0; GTB6.6; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; FDM; OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; InfoPath.2; .NET4.0C; MSSDMC2.5.2219.1)
    Timestamp: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:30:51 UTC

    Message: The data necessary to complete this operation is not yet available.

    Line: 161
    Char: 22811
    Code: 0
    URI: http://www.dailykos.com/...

    "The joy of activity is the activity itself, not some arbitrary goal which, if not achieved, steals the joy." ~John "the Penguin" Bingham

    by sheddhead on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:33:03 AM PST

  •  On the upside (4+ / 0-)
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    mattman, RenaRF, blueyedace2, slksfca

    I do see a bit of DKos between the bugs .

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:36:16 AM PST

  •  It would be great to know the status of things (3+ / 0-)
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    mattman, RenaRF, JoesGarage

    See, we're doing a huge project at work, moving mainframe systems to the web.  (A lot of mainframe systems, like millions of lines of code.)

    They have practiced the load and conversion of data 3 times so far, and we're - at minimum, if all coming testing goes swimmingly (it hasn't so far) - months from the final deploy.

    How many times did they practice this roll out?  

    Apparently, once...

    Anyway, it's done.  I seem to remember a tweet from Markos that made me think that they turned this loose without getting all the servers working.  Maybe I misunderstood.  Maybe I didn't, and that's been fixed.

    Or maybe it's why everything is so slow, and every other 'enter' gets a time out/page not displayed.

    Now, when I received a specific error (other than the one I commented here, which doesn't seem to stop the page from working), I've logged it...  do they want to have each 'page cannot be displayed' logged by each person receiving it?

    "The joy of activity is the activity itself, not some arbitrary goal which, if not achieved, steals the joy." ~John "the Penguin" Bingham

    by sheddhead on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:42:12 AM PST

  •  It does bite ! (4+ / 0-)
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    Sharoney, mattman, Cedwyn, RenaRF

    They old DailyKos had speed and simplicity.
    THis one is incredible slow and kind of complicated.
    For me, it begs the question: why fix what ain't broken?

    If people are turned off, Kos will surprised how quickly they will abandon this site, even if they were loyal users.

    Apparenly I'm a sanctimonious purist!

    by mattinjersey on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 08:54:50 AM PST

    •  I said as much (1+ / 0-)
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      mattinjersey

      and my comments were summarily dismissed by Kos himself and some of the betatesters as the whining of a crank.

      The site owners didn't ask and weren't interested in what we had to say about what we liked about the old site. They'd made up their minds and any comment to the contrary was just noise harshing their mellow.

      Kos wants his site to be more than a blog. He wants it to be a progressive (er, Democratic) "blogging platform" like Blogspot, ostensibly so that people can take advantage of the huge community here, instead of (paraphrasing Kos here) slaving away on their pitiful, tiny, unread independent blogs and getting no readers.

      Of course, he'll get to control how the site works, what we can or can't post about (no third party promotion, please) and how our blogs, er, "diaries" will look.

      And he, not the site owner, will harvest the ad revenue. (Especially with all the additional clicks needed to use this shiny exciting new functionality.) Oops. Funny how no one on the development team has mentioned that to my knowledge.

      The complexity and sheer illogic of some formerly simple functions (like, say, the "search" function) will drive away many in the very community it was supposedly supposed to benefit.

      And then there's the learning curve for brand-new users. What will those who found the OLD DKos bewildering do with a site that requires a 10-part user guide just to navigate it?

      "The truth will set you free...but first it'll piss you off." - Gloria Steinem

      by Sharoney on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 12:41:19 PM PST

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      •  you hit da nail on da head (1+ / 0-)
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        Sharoney

        And he, not the site owner, will harvest the ad revenue. (Especially with all the additional clicks needed to use this shiny exciting new functionality.) Oops. Funny how no one on the development team has mentioned that to my knowledge.

        I don't have a problem with that.  I don't begrudge people for making money or being savvy businesspeople.  What I did mind was the "you have the temerity to question US?" attitude that the higher ups dismissed our concerns with, either functionally or stylisticly.  I can understand that:

        a.  they are investing money in the development phase
        b.  they have a timeline
        c.  have obligations to ad buyers, investors, banks etc and "sorry, we didn't get it done on time" may not be a sufficient excuse.

        However, if the site wasn't ready for launch...don't launch it.  If you start a restaurant you don't open knowing that you don't have enough stock and your appliances only work half the time.

        But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have laid my dreams under your feet; tread softly, because you tread on my dreams. – Yeats

        by Bill O Rights on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 11:04:32 PM PST

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  •  Oh, it bites all right. (4+ / 0-)
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    Sharoney, mattman, RenaRF, Onomastic

    Slow as hell.

    Can't see anything because you have to scroll in two directions to see more than one article.

    Encourages groupthink cliques.

    What's not to hate?

  •  I had to be creative just to get in here (4+ / 0-)
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    mattman, Cedwyn, RenaRF, JoesGarage

    I kept getting a blank page, so I clicked on your username which opened up pretty quickly, and then I clicked on your 'recent diary' link, and that opened up pretty easily.

    It was all working well earlier today, but now it requires a lot of patience when navigating the site, posting a comment or recommending.  I wouldn't dare try writing a diary!  

    •  Yep. (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      mattman, littlesky, Cedwyn

      It was an exercise in patience, browser-shifting, reloading and creativity to post this one.  And it's short.

      •  This Is My Understanding Of The Situation (3+ / 0-)
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        Sharoney, RenaRF, Onomastic

        Sunday is usually maybe one of the slowest day. There isn't any big news. Maybe a ton more traffic then usual cause of the new site .... but who knows.

        A few weeks ago Markos has a front page post where he said the new site was loading .3 to .5 seconds, even with a lot more stuff going on, then the old site.

        That maybe not sound like a lot .3 seconds, but that is huge if you have 10,000, 25,000, or who knows how many users. Clearly something is "off."

        When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

        by webranding on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 09:19:43 AM PST

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  •  Big time buggy (4+ / 0-)
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    Cedwyn, RenaRF, webranding, Onomastic

    Can't vote in your poll. I hate when that happens. ;)

    I'm on Windows XP, Firefox 3.6

    Messaging system has broken down for me for the last half hour.
    Error messages for opening new diaries, for following groups.
    Overall, extremely slow.

    I tried to send a bug report summarizing all this. Don't know if it will get through.

    It seems like the launch might have been premature for the full monty.

    I think we all have to be patient and find other things to do for a while. There is Congress Matters for the real jonesers, or other blogs, oh my!

  •  The RSS feed is FUBAR too (2+ / 0-)
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    RenaRF, Onomastic

    I guess you can't prepare for everything. . .

    Ok, so I read the polls.

    by andgarden on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 09:20:21 AM PST

    •  Well The Feeds. With All Due (3+ / 0-)
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      mattman, RenaRF, Onomastic

      respect, not much excuse for that. None.

      I have not even tried to play with the feeds, but plan to. I don't like Outlook that much, but have to admit when in '07 I could get RSS feeds and handle them the same way I handle emails, well that was a god sent for me.

      Really the only want I want to get info these days. Guess I might have to wait a few days to give that a try :).

      When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

      by webranding on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 09:24:33 AM PST

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  •  Slow... (4+ / 0-)
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    PeterHug, Cedwyn, rockhound, Onomastic

    I'm on dial up so I'm used to being patient, but I'm also not any better looking. What's up with that?

    •  The longer you spend here (0+ / 0-)

      the better Kos' stats look to advertisers.

      That would also explain the multiple levels of pages needed to access one simple functionality.

      I fully expect to be banned for formenting conspiracy theories now.

      "The truth will set you free...but first it'll piss you off." - Gloria Steinem

      by Sharoney on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 12:43:19 PM PST

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      •  they opened a short term kosMo (1+ / 0-)
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        Sharoney

        detention center for people who don't get on board with the coalition of the willing.

        I might have the right set up:  Vista, Mozilla's latest Firefox.  The only thing I'm having problems with is the posting of comments...however, if you hit post then reload your page the comment has posted.

        I DO like the new digs.  But I do have a lot of concerns about readership.  It seems to me that the people who had the biggest followings on the old platform maintain that advantage here...but that they are also going to be able to recruit the most people to their groups.  If someone really likes MB...they can read his articles...signup for his groups...get led to groups that he has joined or is following...and that is a day's worth of internet for most people.  

        I don't care if the FP doesn't get read.  But it was already hard enough to get read without having to compete against unlimited diaries, groups and a rec list still dominated by the same people.

        But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have laid my dreams under your feet; tread softly, because you tread on my dreams. – Yeats

        by Bill O Rights on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 11:21:18 PM PST

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        •  Exactly so. (0+ / 0-)

          We are seeing the Balkanization of DKos.

          And Kos isn't a bit concerned about that. He's on the record as saying so, in fact.

          "The truth will set you free...but first it'll piss you off." - Gloria Steinem

          by Sharoney on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 06:45:20 AM PST

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  •  Tried commenting earlier, went nowhere. (3+ / 0-)
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    mattman, PeterHug, Onomastic

    Agonizingly slow, followed by blazing fast, and then back again. Not encouraging, but give it time.

  •  Tried commenting earlier, went nowhere. (0+ / 0-)

    "An unknown error occurred".  Agonizingly slow, followed by blazing fast, and then back again. Not encouraging, but give it time.

  •  this is brutal (4+ / 0-)
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    mattman, slksfca, pamelabrown, Onomastic

    I am using Chrome and Win7, my comments either don't post or post in triplicate.

    I may take some time away until they figure this out.

    (-9.00,-7.59) non illegitimi carborundum. We will go on forever because we are the people-John Steinbeck

    by Irish Patti on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 09:40:13 AM PST

  •  Tried commenting earlier, went nowhere. (2+ / 0-)
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    mattman, Onomastic

    "An unknown error occurred".  Agonizingly slow, followed by blazing fast, and then back again. Not encouraging, but give it time.

  •  Can't rec comments (3+ / 0-)
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    Sharoney, mattman, RenaRF

    Can't post a diary to a group I'm an admin of. Hubby is the founder, he can't either.

    When I try to send invites to the group it tells me I failed. Of course sometimes that means I've succeeded. Other times, not so much.

    Can't delete messages, the number just keeps piling up and can't get rid of the old, no longer needed ones (this is in group messages)

    Get Internal server failure messages at every turn. Again, sometimes they mean whatever I tried to do failed, sometimes they're just toying with me.

    All the fabulous functionality is useless unless the thing WORKS. Which it doesn't - not even passably.

    Did I mention I can't even tip the blasted tip jar? No offense, RenaRF.

    Now, let's see if I can post this comment. Haven't tried that yet.

    •  Yes I've Had All The Above Happen (2+ / 0-)

      and normally I wouldn't be pissed about any of it. But darn it I went to set up a Group and folks want to join. They keep trying and trying. I keep trying to invite them. None of us can get any of it to work and I fear I'll lose them.

      What you said:

      All the fabulous functionality is useless unless the thing WORKS. Which it doesn't - not even passably.

      When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

      by webranding on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 09:58:22 AM PST

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    •  It went through. (2+ / 0-)

      And only ONCE.  Many are experiencing triple-comment posting, this despite dKos showing that their comment has not, in fact, posted.

      Gruh.  I'm with you.  I hate to shit on it out of the gate - and I'm totally open to the new structure and functionality.  But I do think it's pretty egregious not to have the basics - diarying, commenting, posting - handled at least passably.

  •  I've Decided to Blame It On You... (2+ / 0-)

    I was taking my brand spanking new DK4 out for a spin, kicking the tires, etc.  It was slower than I wanted it to be and I had a little trouble posting a comment.  But, then... I clicked on your diary and ever since that ill-fated decision I'm getting all KINDS of problems!  All. Your. Fault.  :-P

    "Salvation for a race, nation or class must come from within. Freedom is never granted; it is won. Justice is never given; it is exacted." A. Phillip Randolph

    by Savage on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 09:55:58 AM PST

  •  lol was going to vote no (1+ / 0-)
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    ridemybike

    But It wont even let me vote..lol.. I wish I did not have to move half way down the page to see recommended diaries.

    My Country Tis of Thee sweet land of Secrecy of thee I sing

    by hangingchad on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:02:50 AM PST

  •  Wow, I actually managed to access your diary ! (1+ / 0-)
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    mattman

    Saw this on the recent list, but nothing happens when I click on anything in there - just wait wait wait....   Clicked on the link from the main page an I finally got here after a long wait.

    Sent in a bug report just in case.

    Die energie der Welt ist constant; die Entropie der welt strebt einem Maximum zu. - Rudolf Clausius, 1865

    by xgy2 on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:05:08 AM PST

  •  Doesn't really work for me. (2+ / 0-)
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    Sharoney, PeterHug

    I liked the DK3 format which included a brief intro for the most recent diaries, so you could be drawn into the writing and topic.

    My diaries also depended on an immediate view of the poll, and that feature is gone.

    Some of my diaries took a lot of work, and I needed that hook sometimes.     I may try a diary in the future, but I'm not overly optimistic.

    It  is exceedingly slow, and in this, my first comment in the new format, I learned that clicking the formatting keys, which I used a lot, puts them at the beginning of the comment, and not at the position in the text.

    My kid says that he thinks I'm an old conservative fart because I don't like to try new things.   Then again, he's sixteen and is obsessed with the Beatles.

    Sigh...

  •  It was OK early early this AM when not a lot (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Quilldriver

    of people were on it, but as more people came on it has gotten slow and slow and did I say slow? :)

    It does not allow me to rec comments, I've two messages in my mailbox I cannot check out since it keeps timing me out from checking out.

    I think somehow the men from Jupiter are involved in some evil plot.

  •  Wow, I actually managed to access your diary ! (2+ / 0-)
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    mattman, se portland

    Saw this on the recent list, but nothing happens when I click on anything in there - just wait wait wait....   Clicked on the link from the main page an I finally got here after a long wait.

    Sent in a bug report just in case.

    Die energie der Welt ist constant; die Entropie der welt strebt einem Maximum zu. - Rudolf Clausius, 1865

    by xgy2 on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:07:20 AM PST

  •  Posting for me works fine (0+ / 0-)

    Just the polls take a while to add to the database I guess.  Dont know about the other functionality  will test out but do not want to be to critical on a new product release.

    My Country Tis of Thee sweet land of Secrecy of thee I sing

    by hangingchad on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:09:17 AM PST

  •  Can't vote, can't rec comments. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman, arodb

    Blah.  I'm on XP using Firefox.  Let's see if this comment posts.

    Can't find the pootie/woozle group either.  Groups are in no particular order and I looked through the whole list.  

    That which you manifest is before you - Enzo: "The Art of Racing in the Rain"

    by StateofEuphoria on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:10:06 AM PST

  •  What A Mess. Five Attempts (4+ / 0-)
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    Sharoney, aisling, webranding, Quilldriver

    to load this diary timed out. Tried to sneak in the back door by "Commments" of diarist failed, too. Most attempts to rec comments "FAILED".

    I was much younger when I started on on DK4 this morning and not sure how much more I'm willing to give this brave new world here.

    Sorry to all the posters I tried to rec but couldn't.

    You can't always tell the truth because you don't always know the truth - but you can always be honest.

    by mattman on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:17:22 AM PST

  •  Group feature is beyond buggy.... (1+ / 0-)
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    Sharoney

    they are something like a stub....meaning an outline of a proposed system before the code is even written.

    I've set up three groups, and have gotten some positive feedback.   I wrote one diary (revised older diary) on my group, "Dailykos Diaries"  But although that diary did appear and garnered several recs (who knows how many others tried to rec it) there was no indication that it was a part of the group that I was using the diary to epitimize.

    There is no hint of a functioning queue system for submitted diaries, or even the feature of signing up members and editors.   I saw this in the beta, but there were so many defects that I couldn't believe that it would actually be released in this form.

    I made a suggestion in a diary last night, that "Congress Matters" which is in the same format as DK3, be a fallback in case DK4 is either non functional or not accepted by the users.    Here's the link .  I may try to revise it with some of the many explicit defects that are now appearing in comments.

    Kos, for his own benefit and that of the community should accept the vast problems that are occuring.  Among his many talents, accepting a gross mistake and adjusting to it does not seem to come too easy for him.

    •  Tell me about it. (0+ / 0-)
      Among his many talents, accepting a gross mistake and adjusting to it does not seem to come too easy for him.

      Do a search of his responses to complaints about the new site structure. That is, IF you can get past how the "new, improved" search function is supposed to work.

      "The truth will set you free...but first it'll piss you off." - Gloria Steinem

      by Sharoney on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 12:48:24 PM PST

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  •  just a quick addition (0+ / 0-)

    I can't vote in any poll.  I can click until the cows come home, but nothing happens.  Hardly the most important thing, but still..........

    A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

    by dougymi on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:45:46 AM PST

  •  Odd but I have experienced (0+ / 0-)

    none of the problems talked about here. (Haven't tried to write a diary so those problems obviously don't apply). But that won't stop me from complaining - anyone else really hate the orange type of the recent diary list? - tough on my eyes

    Better beans and bacon in peace than cakes and ale in fear... Aesop

    by mr crabby on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:47:45 AM PST

  •  It's getting better (0+ / 0-)

    at least for me.

    I will Not give up, I will Not give in, I will Not quit!

    by JupiterIslandGirl on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 11:54:44 AM PST

  •  Tried to hotlink this diary (0+ / 0-)

    and add a private note to the hotlink.

    The popup text box for the private note is partially covered by the ad on the right. So much for THAT functionality.

    But I'm obviously #doingitwrong.

    "The truth will set you free...but first it'll piss you off." - Gloria Steinem

    by Sharoney on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 12:51:08 PM PST

  •  At least you are no longer RENARF. n/t (0+ / 0-)

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