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This is no joke-the residents of Baja, Arizona (Pima County) are moderate liberals that say they are deeply frustrated and have had enough of the Republican led legislature passing extremist legislation and like Maine, that broke from Massachusetts in 1820 they
want to secede from Arizona and become the 51st state.  
They have 2,300 supporters on Facebook and 1 million residents.
Maybe the GOP & the Tea party will wake up and smell the coffee when they see progressives fighting back the crazy.

"All of this is extremist legislation, and some is reminiscent of nullification bills leading to the Civil War," he said. "We don't want to be part of that."

Some of the "crazy laws" enacted are:
   Arizona has cut organ transplant coverage for Medicaid recipients
   Requires police to check immigration status if they have "reasonable suspicion
   A Senate bill that would allow Arizona to "nullify," or ignore, any federal law
   a panel of lawmakers deemed unconstitutional


The desire of residents to break away from Arizona first needs an estimated 30,000 signatures to get on the ballot in November 2012.
Pima County is in the southwest part of the state including the city of Tucson and geographically is larger than Vermont or Delaware. To become a state is very difficult and if the residents pass this it still has to go to Conress and the President.

"It happens, and it can happen here," said Tucson attorney Paul Eckerstrom, who co-founded the "Start Our State" organization to push for statehood for Baja Arizona.
Pima County, in the southwest part of the state including the city of Tucson, is home to roughly 1 million people and is more politically moderate than neighboring Maricopa County to the north, which includes the state capital of Phoenix.

"Like Maine, which broke off from Massachusetts, we want to get the legislature to let us leave," Eckerstrom said, "and then we can petition Congress to accept us as a state."

Kudos to Baja, Arizona and a link to their Facebook page:

Originally posted to appledown on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 08:11 AM PST.

Also republished by Baja Arizona Kossacks.

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  •  Tip Jar (13+ / 0-)

    "No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar." Abraham Lincoln

    by appledown on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 08:11:04 AM PST

  •  how about a new state: Tennezona (2+ / 0-)
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    Losty, appledown

    in eastern Tennezona they practically wanna make Islam illegal:

    in western Tennezona they wanna make it illegal to be darker than a slice of wonderbread

    PLEASE donate to a global children's PEACE project: Chalk 4 Peace

    by RumsfeldResign on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 08:23:19 AM PST

  •  They can just lift the text (7+ / 0-)

    ...out of the Declaration of Independence.

    When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

     We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

    That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

    Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

    Having recently visited the state, it is clear that a legal separation would be in the best interest of all parties and of the United States, as a whole.

  •  Not going to happen (2+ / 0-)
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    Lujane, arizonablue

    Neither party is going to allow regions to break off and add two more senators to the other party.

  •  This is just stupid. (1+ / 0-)
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    A classic activist circle-jerk, that will accomplish jack shit, because it cannot succeed.

    ...but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

    US Constitution, Article IV, Section 3

    There is no way in hell that the Arizona State Legislature or the United States Congress will allow this, so there's no point in advocating for it.

    There's plenty of reasons to be pissed off at Arizona, and plenty of useful ways to try to change things.

    This isn't one of them.


    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
    "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

    by Leftie Gunner on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 09:18:15 AM PST

    •  i'm interested in some of those "useful ways (1+ / 0-)
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      to change things" that are so plentiful. care to drop a few?

      Whatever action a great man performs, common men follow. And whatever standards he sets by exemplary acts, all the world pursues. The Gita 3.21

      by rasbobbo on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 11:44:26 AM PST

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    •  I also would like to know what else can be done to (1+ / 0-)
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      stop the lunacy in Arizona.

      "No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar." Abraham Lincoln

      by appledown on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 12:05:42 PM PST

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    •  really? (0+ / 0-)

      are you familiar with the state at all?  There's been a deep antipathy between the two largest cities in Arizona for quite some time.  All you have to do is read a few local boards to get the idea that the folks in Maricopa don't think much of Tucson (as in it's a place to get gas on the way to Mexico) or vice versa regarding Phoenix (as it's caricatured as being the Center of the Universe by folks down here).  There have been some long running grumblings about how tax dollars go into Maricopa but they never get out.

      If nothing else, it's getting people to talk about what is going on and shines the spotlight on these yahoos in the Arizona state legislature who are busy drafting bills that are attempting to give these guys some sort of "cover" that allows them to place their petty little selves above federal law, any federal law, that they choose to.  They're like a bunch of mini Joe Arpaio's who claim that their jurisdiction is superior to any claims that the nation may have on them.  Screw the unconstitutionality of it all, they don't care they're still going after it full speed ahead.  They are cutting programs that have federal matching funds and waging war on the poor and implementing any and all hippie punching measures that they can.  Considering the representation issues and who controls the drawing of the districts; folks in Baja don't believe that our interests are ever going to be addressed and as such its either move, try and shame these people or sit back and lump it.  Folks are preferring to fight, even if the gestures are futile, but they are still fights worth having.

      I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused - Elvis Costello "The Angels Wanna Wear My Red Shoes"

      by piratedan on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 07:17:53 AM PST

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  •  We in southern AZ (8+ / 0-)

    have been referring to ourselves as Baja Arizona for years. Our history, our culture and, most importantly, our politics, are starkly different from those of Phoenix and Maricopa County.
    I will repost this to our group Baja Arizona Kossacks.

    When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross, with tea-bags hanging from its hat.

    by Azazello on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 10:08:12 AM PST

  •  These are the test cases that precede civil war (1+ / 0-)
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    When a country moves towards civil war, its factions must strip away the legal niceties to expose their ultimate agenda.  The South exposed its hypocrisy with the Fugitive Slave Act, which showed that states' rights only existed when this supported slavery.  The Kansas-Missouri war and the Dred Scott decision were more examples that showed the country the nature of the decision it would have to make.

    Since the bad guys are reviving all that Confederate crap, and claiming that states' rights are the only source of individual liberty, let's see how they act if someone tries to form a new, liberal state.  Will the GOP leaders simply crush any resistance, recognizing the threat of losing their best educated and most productive citizens?  

    Or will the far-right rank & file overrule their masters, ironically so brainwashed to believe that liberals are useless parasites and criminals that they will seize the opportunity to rid their states of them by partition?

    Remember B'rer Rabbit and the briar patch.  The bigots might just be fooled into giving us exactly what we want, senators and all.

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