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Like many of you, I have been keeping up with the activity at the Madison, Wisconsin capitol.  Whilst I have been sympathetic to the folks bivouacking there, it got very personal to me a little while ago.

A Kossack, her name to be not reported here, sent me a Happy Birthday email complete with a picture of her in the rotunda!  This person and I go back several years, only online and always platonic, but I love her very much in a political way this evening.

She is a fine example of what this community represents.  I almost always back off from political posts, because others do it much better than I could hope to try.

UPDATE:  a fellow Kossack, and a dear, close friend of mine for decades in flat on his back with a bloodclot from his knee to his groin.  He is in dire health, but we talked and it looks like that he will recover.  Please give a thought about my friend Kevin, known here as Justasabeverage.  He will turn 52 on Friday, way too young for such a serious condition.

State Senator Glenn Grothman (R) has called the folks who came to stay in the State Capitol "slobs".  I maintain that he is the one that is not using proper decorum, and his attitude is quite usual for the extreme right wing.  HE is the slob, not our friend.

I do not have a whole lot more to say, except to reiterate that she puts her presence where it is required.  I cherish her not only for our friendship, but also for her convictions.

If she chooses to reveal herself, then fine.  If not, I have not betrayed our confidence since I never mentioned anything about her except her gender and her political activities, with no personally identifiable information.

I just wanted to point out that many in this community are not like me.  Some of us actually take action, and I respect her very much for that.  We all could take a lesson from her.

Please, if she reveals who she is, shower her with tips and recommendations.  Thanks!

Warmest regards,


Originally posted to Translator on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 09:01 PM PST.

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  •  Tips and recs for (30+ / 0-)

    good people doing good things?

    Warmest regards,


    Kennedy: "Ich bin ein Berliner." Meaning, and this won the Cold War, EAT ME!

    by Translator on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 08:27:55 PM PST

  •  I looked up SLOB in the dictionary (8+ / 0-)

    and found Glenn Grothman's picture there.

    What a smirking slimeball.

    "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."

    by Eman on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 09:21:39 PM PST

  •  In the Nite Owl thread (12+ / 0-)

    nonnie9999 came up with a great idea. Turn that word from a negative into a source of pride. Make shirts that say, "PROUD WORKING SLOB" Rub it Grothman's face, be proud that you work for a living, unlike him.

    There's always the chance something good will come out of expressing oneself honestly

    by ontheleftcoast on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 09:32:50 PM PST

    •  Excellent idea! (5+ / 0-)

      However, the idea of getting anywhere near enough to him to touch his arrogant face is sort of stomach churning.

      Warmest regards,


      Kennedy: "Ich bin ein Berliner." Meaning, and this won the Cold War, EAT ME!

      by Translator on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 09:35:56 PM PST

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    •  nonnie9999 does great things. Always spot (10+ / 0-)

      on and to the point. We California working slobs, leeches and cockroaches support our WI, OH, IN and whomever next is under the Koch low orbiting union-busting cannon.

      We are all cheeseheads now. We stand with Wisconsin!

      by mrsgoo on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 09:42:17 PM PST

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      •  I am in complete (4+ / 0-)

        communion with you, although it might surprise you to know that for most of my working life that I represented management.

        What most manager types do not realize is that profits should not be tallied quarter to quarter, but decade to decade.  Treating EVERYONE who works in a just manner maximizes profits for the long term, and is also the right thing to do.

        The Koch bothers (that was a typo at first, but I left it because it is apt) are the very, very worst examples of management.  In an ideal world, collective bargaining would not be necessary.

        But there are unicorns and golden geese in that world also.  Please do not get me wrong, I support collective bargaining.  I just wish the Utopian dream that would make it unnecessary.

        Warmest regards,


        Kennedy: "Ich bin ein Berliner." Meaning, and this won the Cold War, EAT ME!

        by Translator on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 09:53:53 PM PST

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        •  And it might suprise you that I have never (5+ / 0-)

          belonged to a union. :)

          25+ years in IT. Now running a business. But I grew up in a union family in Detroit. I know for a fact that the wages and benefits I got were there because of the UAW. So why would I support unions now? Simple. Unions raise the standard of living for everyone. When there is a vibrant middle class - they have money to spend.

          DH is native CA and we've long had the argument that unions are unnecessary in this day and age. He was "forced" to join the union in order to become an construction equipment mechanic. His take on it was that he was being forced to pay dues and he would never benefit from it. IIRC - For him that was quite possibly true. He worked in a non-union shop but in order for him to work on equipment on a union job site, he was required to join. Given the recent events - DH has decided that busting unions for the Koch brothers and their ilk is probably a very bad idea. He's a cheesehead now.

          And just for full disclosure - a vibrant middle class has money to spend on recreation. DH and I run a recreational business in the California Delta. Our main customers are middle class folks who like to camp and fish. So we are very interested in what goes on politically with labor and just as importantly water. A dead Delta will not bring us customers. Neither will a extinct middle class.

          We are all cheeseheads now. We stand with Wisconsin!

          by mrsgoo on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 10:36:17 PM PST

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          •  The rewards for the people on top have (6+ / 0-)

            gotten so skewed that they no longer care about the middle class even buying their product. When they can make $1,000,000 by firing 30 employees and outsouring their jobs what do they care? So when Americans can't afford to buy their product they sell it somewhere else in the world as well. They have the lowest tax rate in the industrialized world, Congress (mostly) bought and paid for, they're set for life. To them 'jobs' is a dirty 4-letter word.

            There's always the chance something good will come out of expressing oneself honestly

            by ontheleftcoast on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 10:49:08 PM PST

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            •  Sure seems that way doesn't it. (8+ / 0-)

              I threw in the towel in early 2006 'coz I just couldn't do the job here and the commute to my lifetime career anymore. We had already been training our Bangalore replacements for months while upper management continued to swear! that no jobs were leaving. One month after I quit - they decimated software development with layoffs. Piss poor timing on my part. I guess if I would have lasted another 6 weeks I could have walked with a severence package!!! Oh well. I grew up in Detroit. It's a pull yourself up by your bootstraps town - I've collected an unemployment check for a whopping 6 weeks my entire life. I happened to be in the "area" when the Koch Bros. had their gathering in Rancho Mirage (Palm Springs). I decided I had to go. 2 hours away isn't anything when you're driving 8 hours to stay with your MIL who had a heart attack/bypass/aicd anyway. What struck me driving into that place was how different they live than "middle class" folks do. The houses were huge. Behind brick walls and don't get me started on the amount of water (from the Delta) they use to keep sod growing between the brick walls and the sidewalk. One of the speakers at the rally caught my attention when he said that most of the people that clean their houses and do their gardening live just a couple of miles away and they do NOT have safe drinking water. That did not suprise me.

              What really pissed me off was the riot police in full uniform they had to protect themselves from us middle class, slobs, union thugs and cockroaches. That was my first "protest" it sure the hell wasn't the last. (I was at the moveon sac rally sunday - the one with the now infamous palm trees!)  Are you that scared of us? Really? A bunch of mostly 50+ white folks drivin' Toyotas and Chevrolets? Dang! Is that all it takes to freak you out? I guess that explains why Scott Wanker and crew are so busy locking people out of the peoples house in WI.

              We are all cheeseheads now. We stand with Wisconsin!

              by mrsgoo on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 11:10:58 PM PST

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            •  As a nation, we are very close (2+ / 0-)
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              1864 House, ontheleftcoast

              to being in the Gilded Age in the late 1890s.  Theodore Roosevelt came to our rescue then.  I do not see a real hero coming right now.  By the way, do NOT be fooled by Huckabee.  He is a far right wingnut.

              Warmest regards,


              Kennedy: "Ich bin ein Berliner." Meaning, and this won the Cold War, EAT ME!

              by Translator on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 11:22:00 PM PST

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            •  I made this observation in a conversation (3+ / 0-)

              the other night, too.  They really don't need us as consumers in a global economy.  While I realize that on a global scale the United States still consumes a great more per capita than other nations, there are emerging economies that are their new market as well.  

              I know of two international companies, that are headquartered near me that are producing products in other countries because they feel it is cheaper to do so, but they are also designing and manufacturing products specifically for these emerging markets that won't even be available for purchase in the US but are solely to be manufactured and sold overseas for these new consumers.

              I am proud of my Democratic, Wisconsin 14, Lincoln Legislators!

              by churchlady on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 06:56:34 AM PST

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          •  I fully support unions, but (2+ / 0-)
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            I have a big question mark about requiring dues to be paid to get a job.  That is quite debatable, and we will no doubt do that very thing.

            I grew up in "right to work" states, and do have some thoughts about that.  My bottom line is that people who choose to join unions have the right to do so, and if 50% plus one choose to close their shop, then that is good enough for me.

            This is a very complex question, and I am much too tired, and now, too old, since I am 54 years of age plus a fractional day, that I do not have the energy to debate it right now.

            I wish you and your mate only the best for your business!  It is closely owned companies like yours that hire folks.  The FOX "News" network tries to use folks like you as the model, but the are actually advocating companies like Bechtel and Johnson Wax as archetypal  "family companies"  Good on you and your mate, and please live long and prosper.

            Warmest regards,


            Kennedy: "Ich bin ein Berliner." Meaning, and this won the Cold War, EAT ME!

            by Translator on Wed Mar 02, 2011 at 11:18:14 PM PST

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            •  Long time Union member here..... (2+ / 0-)
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              Translator, 1864 House

              As to the question of union dues, a person in a union shop has to help pay for the time and effort it takes to bargain and enforce a union contract. Since everyone in the union shop benefits from union bargaining, they should have the responsibility of paying for the privilege. People in a union shop do not have to join the union, however, so those costs not related to bargaining and enforcement, which in most cases are minimal, do not have to be paid by those choosing not to join. Contrary to widely reported information in the right-wing press, political action funding is separate from union dues. A separate form is filled out, and requests for PAC contributions are made each year. There are additional rules for PAC funds, their collection, and even how checks written for donations must be filled out - all thanks to Republican legislators who are trying to make it very difficult for union members to organize and mobilize.

  •  A joke from Wisconsin... (1+ / 0-)
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    A CEO, a tea partier and a union guy from Wisconsin are sitting at a table. There's a plate with a dozen cookies in the middle of the table. The CEO takes eleven cookies. Then he turns to the tea partier and says "Better watch out. That union guy wants part of your cookie."

    They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself. - Andy Warhol

    by 1864 House on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 09:59:59 AM PST

    •  Excellent! (1+ / 0-)
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      1864 House

      Thank you for the very nice birthday wishes, as well.  You are not the only one to wish them, so no one's cover is blown.

      We indeed are living in The Gilded Age, on steroids.  If we do not correct the wealth differential very soon, the very idea about what this great experiment called The United States of America will come to a very bad end, in my opinion.

      Warmest regards,  my dear friend,


      Kennedy: "Ich bin ein Berliner." Meaning, and this won the Cold War, EAT ME!

      by Translator on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 09:11:21 PM PST

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