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This is for those with short or selective memories, say like The Washington Times, which reported: "Former President George W. Bush, who made getting bin Laden a top priority of his U.S.-led war on terrorism said in a statement: 'The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.'"

Bush: Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not. We haven't heard from him in a long time. The idea of focusing on one person really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission. Terror is bigger than one person. He's just a person who's been marginalized.... I don't know where he is. I really just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you.

What was Bush spending time on in March, 2002, and if fact just a month after the 9/11 attacks? Surely you remember:

October 18, 2001 – The CIA writes a report titled, Iraq: Nuclear-Related Procurement Efforts. It quotes many of the Italian report's claims, but adds that the report of a completed deal is not corroborated by any other sources. (Senate Intelligence Cmte., Iraq 36-37, July 2004).

February 5, 2002 – The CIA's Directorate of Operations – the clandestine branch that employed Valerie Wilson –  issues a second report including "verbatim text"of an agreement, supposedly signed July 5-6, 2000 for the sale of 500 tons of uranium yellowcake per year. (Senate Intelligence Cmte., Iraq 37, July 2004).

February 12, 2002 – The Defense Intelligence Agency writes a report concluding "Iraq is probably searching abroad for natural uranium to assist in its nuclear weapons program."Vice President Cheney reads this report and asks for the CIA's analysis. (Senate Intelligence Cmte., Iraq 38-39, July 2004)....

February 19, 2002 – Joseph Wilson meets with officials from CIA and the State Department. According to a State Department intelligence analyst's notes, the meeting was convened by Valerie Wilson. She later testifies that she left the meeting after introducing her husband. (Senate Intelligence Cmte., Iraq 40, July 2004).  

February 26, 2002 – Wilson arrives in Niger. He concludes, after a few days of interviews, that "it was highly unlikely that anything was going on."(Senate Intelligence Cmte., Iraq 42, July 2004).

March 5, 2002 –Wilson reports back to two CIA officers at his home. Valerie Wilson is present but does not participate. (Senate Intelligence Cmte., Iraq 43, July 2004).

March 8-9, 2002 – An intelligence report of Wilson 's trip is sent through routine channels, identifying Wilson only as "a contact with excellent access who does not have an established reporting record."(Senate Intelligence Cmte., Iraq 43-44, July 2004). The CIA grades Wilson's information as "good,"the middle of five possible grades. Cheney is not directly briefed about the report. (Senate Intelligence Cmte., Iraq 46, July 2004).

For the record, again, what came next:

January 28, 2003 – Bush's State of the Union Address includes this 16-word sentence: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."(Transcript of "State of the Union").

March 7, 2003 – The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) – the international body that monitors nuclear proliferation – tells the UN Security Council that, after a "thorough analysis"with "concurrence of outside experts,"that the Italian documents— "which formed the basis for the reports of recent uranium transactions between Iraq and Niger—are in fact not authentic."(Status of Nuclear Inspections in Iraq..., March 2003).

March 19, 2003 – President Bush announces the start of the Iraq war in a televised address, saying it is "to disarm Iraq , to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger."(Bush, "Addresses the Nation").

Surely we all remember what happened after that, since we're still in Iraq, and our troops there just experienced the deadliest month April since 2009.

Finally, a reminder for those, like Rep. Eric Cantor, giving former President Bush credit for the death of bin Laden, from Steve Benen.

In July 2006, we learned that the Bush administration closed its unit that had been hunting bin Laden.

In September 2006, Bush told Fred Barnes, one of his most sycophantic media allies, that an "emphasis on bin Laden doesn't fit with the administration's strategy for combating terrorism."

Many military and government personnel valiantly served during in Afghanistan and Iraq in the Bush and Obama administrations. Credit is due to all of them, but the credit for this one, for finally bringing bin Laden to justice cannot be attributed to the vigilance of Pres. George W. Bush.

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  •  And what is your point? (3+ / 0-)
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    stewarjt, drmah, qofdisks

    That we should do a happy dance because Obama ordered the killing of another human being?  

    I think I will sign off for the rest of the day because the "celebration" of a man's killing (even though he may have been a wicked man) on this site is turning my stomach.

  •  a non-dead bin laden was extremely valuable to the (18+ / 0-)

    bush-cheney regime and, in fact, may have tipped the 2004 race their way when he suddenly "surfaced" to scare americans shitless two days before the election - the "don't change horses, even though your horse is really lame" election

    "Kill 'em with Coupons: Paul Ryan's Road to From Medicare to Manslaughter"

    by memofromturner on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:20:38 AM PDT

  •  Maybe he was focused on Kanye West? (9+ / 0-)

    After all, when Kanye said, "George Bush doesn't care about Black people," it was the worst moment of his presidency.

    Umm, that's PRESIDENT Obama and SENATOR Franken, mr. o'reilly.

    by filby on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:20:51 AM PDT

  •  And Reagan was responsible for the Clinton boom (15+ / 0-)

    For the wingnut mind, critical thinking, the notion of facts and evidence being used to formulate conclusions based on discourse and debate, no longer applies.

    The wingnut mind starts with the conclusion and works backwards. It's the mindset of a cult follower, and is as dangerous as it is disgraceful.

  •  Just like that it was all-Saddam ... (9+ / 0-)

    ... all the time. I remember specifically thinking, "Wait, why are we talking about Iraq all of a sudden?"

    Little did I know that we were just about to get bogged down in a boondoggle of epic proportions, of hundreds of billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives lost, all for a lie, and all when we should have been going after Asshole Bin Laden.

    Fuck you, George Bush. President Obama is still cleaning up your mess.

    •  Is Bush still showing off Saddam's pistol? (2+ / 0-)
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      Not only the diversion into Iraq, but Bush's personal obsession with Saddam Hussein was very creepy and very sad (not to say costly in lives, money, and trust the US has around the world). I've always wondered about the legal propriety of bragging about and showing off war booty. Will the pistol he was known to show select visitors be in GWB's Presidential library, and on display?

  •  Nothing makes me yak quicker than bringing up (14+ / 0-)

    the disastrous incompetency of George W. Bush. But frankly, it's wholly in the country's best interest that he and his craptacular sycophants get dragged out in the sunlight again over Osama's death.

    GOPer mandarins must be pissing themselves this morning.

  •  Yep, too busy for OBL, need to help Halliburton nt (5+ / 0-)

    I am off my metas! Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above join the DAILY KOS UNIVERSITY "Nous sommes un groupuscule"

    by annieli on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:22:20 AM PDT

  •  Failing to capture or kill (26+ / 0-)

    Bin Laden was one of the defining failures of the Bush presidency.

    Right-wing attempts to spin this as a vindication of Bush are truly sickening. He couldn't, or wouldn't, do this himself. Frankly, the Obama Administration succeeded here in spite of, not because of, the groundwork that Bush laid.

    "As the madmen play on words, and make us all dance to their song / to the tune of starving millions, to make a better kind of gun..." -- Iron Maiden

    by Lost Left Coaster on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:22:30 AM PDT

  •  and the revisionist history continues... n/t (4+ / 0-)
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    I am off my metas! Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above join the DAILY KOS UNIVERSITY "Nous sommes un groupuscule"

    by annieli on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:25:38 AM PDT

  •  And, let's not forget candidate Obama (17+ / 0-)

    I have posted this elsewhere, but we should not forget this either.  I remember this "controversy" because it was at the time of the Annual Kos in Chicago and Obama addressed it in the breakout session.  

    From a Reuters story on August 1, 2007.

    Obama said if elected in November 2008 he would be willing to attack inside Pakistan with or without approval from the Pakistani government, a move that would likely cause anxiety in the already troubled region.

    "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Obama said.

    Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.

    by MoDem on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:26:35 AM PDT

  •  Deadliest month since 2009, not just April (3+ / 0-)

    The deadliest April since 2009 wouldn't be that big of a deal, since it would just have to beat 2010. However, according to the link, it's the deadliest month since November 2009. You might want to correct that.

  •  Can I haz my country back now? (1+ / 0-)
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    or what I naively thought was my country?

    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:28:41 AM PDT

  •  Bush wasn't interested (7+ / 0-)

    in anything that would upset the family ties with oil in Saudi Arabia.    If it wasn't about funding the uber wealthy, destroying economic security for ordinary people so the rich could own everything, it wasn't a Bush priority.  The only end of the war on terror was funnelling money to wealthy Republican patrons, persons and corporations who would benefit Republican coffers are election time and after service in office.

  •  We Knew As Soon As We Heard The News (16+ / 0-)

    That the rightwing horseshit machine thanking their most incompetent creation yet would happen.
    Let them put BoyIdiot back in the news. Reminds everyone what a clusterfuck Bush left us with.

    And also provides high comedy watching these pricks desperately trying to appear relevant.

  •  one fact is becoming quite clear (14+ / 0-)

    OBAMA GOT OSAMA and the republican right just cannot stand it....

    8 years and thousands of wasted lives and BUSH couldnt find the door out of a presser but OBAMA, with an already unbelievable plate covered in leftover BUSH CHIT was able to get OSAMA using the kind of stealth operation we all THOUGHT bush et al was going to use TEN YEARS AGO....

    but we all found out that BUSH et al had ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in finding  killing or even bringing to justice the mastermind of 9/11 ... instead they USED 9/11 to INVADE AN OIL RICH COUNTRY CHENEY'S FRIENDS WANTED TO DIVVY UP FOR THEMSELVES.

    and so for EIGHT YEARS our country was bled dry of both Human and financial resources ALL to fight a bogus war in IRAQ while OSAMA lived large and free.... in PAKISTAN!!!

    but it only took President OBAMA 14 months to get the right kind of info to begin to put into place the operation that culminated in the death of Bin Laden last night!!!!

    and the republican right CANNOT STAND IT...and so this morning they issued a statement demanding to see "barry's kindergarten transcripts

  •  Traitor (5+ / 0-)

    Bush is a f*cking traitor.  We could have done this 8 years ago, been out of AfPAK and never had been in Iraq.

    If Bush hadn't chosen to go after Hussein and Iraq.

    So much blood. So much money.  

    Bush = traitor.

    •  Yeah, it wasn't worth it. (1+ / 0-)
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    •  let's just remind everyone that (0+ / 0-)

      the entire Dem leadership was also an enthusiastic cheerleader for the Iraq War, and spoke not a peep of opposition to it until Ned Lamont dragged them into it, kicking and screaming and fighting the entire way.

      Both parties have cheerfully embraced the neocon agenda. Both parties now accept as a "given" that the US is in a permanent and perpetual state of war, in which the bill of rights must be "sacrificed".

      I don't consider that to be any sort of a "victory" for us.

      •  Not really (1+ / 0-)
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        The entire Dem leadership did not vote for the war: Indeed, it failed to get the majority of House Dems (82 For    126 against), and got just under 2/3 of the Senate Dems (29 For, 21 Against)

        As for cheerleading, well, I think you need some evidence that our entire leadership did so.  I agree that too many went along after the shooting started.  About that:

        that is how these things go.  It is very hard not to get boxed -in as unpatriotic when you do not support 'defending America." The longer the war goes on, however, and people get weary of it, the less that is true, and dissent against a war becomes acceptable.  That is how I see things.

        And that is why I place a lot of the responsibity on the party who decides to go to war.  Bush chose to go to war with Iraq, the Republican Right beat the war drum. You know the story.

        It was Bush's war.

  •  Do the math (8+ / 0-)

    Bush-the-lesser had more than 7 years to find OBL.

    Obama and his team found OBL in less than 2 years, long
    after the trail from Tora Bora had grown cold.

  •  So Obama (2+ / 0-)
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    Support Civil Liberty, qofdisks

    is a better terror-war true-believer than George W. Bush.

    And this is something to celebrate?

    Where to begin.

    How about this:

    1) The terror-war is a Rovian propaganda construct.  

    2) The fascists really don't take this shit seriously.  

    3) They use it.  As a distraction.  As a misdirection.  A method of social/political/economic control.

    In conclusion:  Has librul Dem politics come to a point where celebrating Obama's vigorous stoogery is the best we've got?

    Please don't feed the security state.

    •  The fascists really (0+ / 0-)

      do not take this seriously.  Duh.

      The whole militarism/honor thing?  

      A joke.



      Let's review.  

      The terror war, first and foremost, was about getting Enron off the public mind and salvaging a failed and stinking Reagan Revolution.  

      Ten years later, it's working out great, under smart, new Big-Boy Pants(tm) Democratic management.

      Obama is struttin'.  

      Rove is laughing.

      Reagan wins.  

      Cheney and Bush too.

      Thanks Dems!  Thanks Obama!  Thanks Obama apologists working feverishly at dkos!

      Still doin' a heckuva job!



      Please don't feed the security state.

    •  Notice they are whipping up the war machine (0+ / 0-)

      over this shameful emotional catharsis today.  All the country has gone into terror alert and the perpetual War on Terra is whipped into a frenzy.  The mercenary companies and the war profiteers are gleefully rubbing their hands together with their butts puckered in exquisite GREED.
      Think this is the end of all the madness now that reptilian brain revenge has been appeased?  The last 10 years are only the beginning of the never ending war.

  •  I always thought (4+ / 0-)

    That maybe with the Bush Family ties with the Saudis there was some sort of an agreement to neuter but let Bin Laden live out of Bush Family respect for Bin Laden's family.

  •  Excellent (6+ / 0-)

    The Republicans are trying to bring Bush's name into this for the credit above Obama, but the record shows that bin Laden was not a Bush priority.

  •  So before they threw him overboard... (2+ / 0-)
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    they confirmed with DNA testing -in a very short timeframe- that the body was Bin Laden's......??  Hmmm......

  •  Yup. This was never about getting the (9+ / 0-)

    man behind the worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor.  This was about using that attack as an excuse to invade Iraq and steal their oil.  Getting Bin Laden immediately would have been counter-productive to that plan.

    President Obama has his priorities straight.  He takes decisive action and gets tangible results which are both a relief and a sobering moment for this country.  He deserves credit and gratitude from all of us.

    I know there are those on this blog who will simply continue to make demands and express anger when it comes to mentioning anything about President Obama.  I know that even if he met all their demands and did everything in his power to address and quell their anger, they would simply come up with something else he hasn't accomplished for them.  I have nothing but pity and contempt for this modus operendi.  If you cannot give this man credit for ANYTHING, you are pathetic.  You are missing out on accepting the reality that this man is doing an incredible job against exceptional odds and keeping his head on his shoulders the entire time.

    Thank you, President Obama, for a job WELL DONE!

    Best. President. Ever.

    by Little Lulu on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:40:12 AM PDT

      •  Mine too! Dammit qwitcherbitchin...I am so (2+ / 0-)
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        sick and tired of coming here and reading the dilusional ranting and raving of the dissastified, pie-in-the-sky seeking, la-la land dreaming, rose-tinted glasses-wearing, fairy-dust smokin', whiners here who can only harp on Mr. Obama's perceived imperfections. He didn't close Gitmo...yet it was the sorry azz DINOS in the Senate who hamstrung him with their lack of courage; he didn't work fast enough to elimate DADT, tho he did get it done within two years of his presidency, now that it's being dismantled, you're STILL not happy...because of DOMA, now that DOJ is no longer defending, you begrudgingly "thank" him; you mewled here about the stimulus wasn't large Claire McCaskill and Ben Nelson and the rest of those fake azz DEMS who forced a smaller plan. Only the D Party can have a 60 vote majority and the presidency and still screw things up! But who do you blame...the President! And the list goes on....Didn't we learn ANYTHING in 2010..Fugg No! We are still bitchin' and moanin' about his imperfection.  Damn you all are just as bad as the Tea Party idiots...always complaining, never satisfied; finding fault with EVERYTHING Mr. Obama has done, will do, or consider doing. MY PRESIDENT DID THE DAMN THING and handled the dirty business of he perfect, hell no, but can he roll up his sleeves and get covered in the muck of the ugly side of leading our nation? YOU DAMN SKIPPY! He just broke the "weak on national security" bat with which the Rethugs have been falsely beating the Dems and he did it in style! Osama bin Laden, while a human being did some VERY inhumane things to many many many people. Did he get what he deserved....I don't sit in judgement. Did my President have other options...again I can't answer that. But what I can say today and have said from that VERY first day January 20th 2008...Mr. President I Got Your Back! Handle Your Business!

  •  Bush's idiotic comments in the video in your (7+ / 0-)

    diary were the first things that came to my mind when I heard the news of Osama Bin Laden's death last night.

    Bush and Cheney were too busy reordering government to monetarily benefit their friends and benefactors to give a damn about where Bin Laden was, and capturing him as Bush told us every day governing was "hard work".

    Apparently planning a successful mission to capture Bin Laden was just too hard for him to do.

    Thank God we have a real President now, one who is tackling all of the problems left behind by others, even though it is a thankless task made more difficult by ungrateful, uninformed detractors who work very hard to diminish the very accomplishments that future generations will honor him for.

    Well done Mr. President. Well done.

    President of the United States of America. The best man for the job is in the job right now!

    by Blogvirgin on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:42:04 AM PDT

    •  My first thought, too! (3+ / 0-)
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      And as well, McCain's remarks that he would find him and Obama wouldn't.  

      Some things remain indelible memories from the past, Bush's remarks and McCain's are on my long list.

      And you know what?  The world knows that Bush was the worst Commander in Chief this country has ever had to look to for leadership.  I will go to my grave ashamed and saddened that Americans voted for him, twice.  

  •  bin Laden search group disbanded in 2005 (link) (6+ / 0-)

    This victory is President Obama's. Period.

    'We can make the trains run on time but if they are not going where we want them to go, why bother?' Neil Postman

    by history first on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:42:05 AM PDT

  •  Every time the Rethugs think Bush is out..... (0+ / 0-)

    events drag him back in.

  •  Credit where credit is due: (5+ / 0-)

    Bush: 7 years to find OBL plus a $T war in Iraq to ensure a 2004 victory against Kerry's insistence that a SpecOps-focused campaign will find OBL

    Obama: 2 years to find OBL using the same SpecOps strategy

    Priceless: 2012 re-election campaign win

    I am off my metas! Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above join the DAILY KOS UNIVERSITY "Nous sommes un groupuscule"

    by annieli on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:42:45 AM PDT

  •  Nah, I don't agree. (0+ / 0-)

    Look, the intel that led to the courier was provided by Bush's administration and passed on to Obama when he took office.

    You don't tip your hand to the enemy by publicly pronouncing that you're actively searching for Osama bin Laden. You do just the opposite in the hopes that he'll get comfortable enough to think he can live out in the open, in comfort, and without fear of being attacked.

    And from the looks of his compound, it's almost impossible that Pakistani military or ISI were unaware of where he resided. They knew. And we spent years confirming it. And when we confirmed it, we took him out. And from the looks of the video, we literally caught him and his ilk in bed, napping. This was not a guy who was overly concerned about American forces coming to get him. Maybe being bombed? Sure. But I think he was lulled into believing that he was relatively safe and that his money could buy him long term protection.

    And frankly, I don't recall Obama making weekly statements about the capture of Osama being our highest priority. If anything, he also downplayed it. As he should. And as he did.

    And it worked. Beautifully.

    I can just about forgive the Brits for starting our revolutionary war and burning DC to the ground during the war of 1812 for giving us Led Zeppelin.

    by Pager on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:45:20 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for putting this together. (3+ / 0-)
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    We know the wingnuts will suddenly want to somehow credit Bush for this.  Funny how they can't remember that Bush was in office when our economic shit hit the fan.

  •  Obama knows better, (0+ / 0-)

    and acknowledged an effort that began in the Bush administration.

    Most grown-ups are aware that public statements are made for public reasons.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:49:03 AM PDT

    •  But that doesn't mean (1+ / 0-)
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      Pris from LA

      we have to accept the "adults" rewriting history.  Bush never cared about catching OBL, that's why he pulled the spec ops out and sent them to Iraq.

      I can't be an elitist! I have stupid friends!

      by happymisanthropy on Mon May 02, 2011 at 09:30:25 AM PDT

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      •  Why do you say that? The intelligence operation (0+ / 0-)

        that ended up netting OBL was begun in the Bush administration.

        There's this funny thing about covert operations:

        They're, well, covert.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Mon May 02, 2011 at 10:49:56 AM PDT

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        •  Bush said (0+ / 0-)

          "I don't know, nor do I [care]" where Bin Laden was.  I take him at his word.

          I can't be an elitist! I have stupid friends!

          by happymisanthropy on Mon May 02, 2011 at 10:57:18 AM PDT

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          •  yeah, right. (0+ / 0-)

            Same with "Mission Accomplished", I'm sure.

            LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

            by dinotrac on Mon May 02, 2011 at 10:59:36 AM PDT

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            •  He also (0+ / 0-)

              when Osama was escaping Tora Bora, sent our special forces... out of the country to get ready for Iraq.

              He also chose to call off an operation against Zarqawi because killing him would undermine the arguments to invade Iraq.

              He also exposed at least one intel source that the British had recruited inside al Qaida.

              The evidence shows that Bush never cared about actually catching our enemies... and that too many of us are willing to rewrite history.

              I can't be an elitist! I have stupid friends!

              by happymisanthropy on Mon May 02, 2011 at 11:04:43 AM PDT

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  •  Frankly, Osama was the best thing that could (4+ / 0-)

    have happened to George Bush, allowing cover for everything Bush and the Rethugs REALLY wanted to do from that day forward. Bin Laden was practically Bush's BFF.

    And the way Bush so callously disregarded the feelings of 9/11 families when he said bin Laden's capture was not important just shows what an unbelievably arrogant, careless, and foolish person he was. How we ever survived 8 years of that ridiculous man, I will never know. We barely did - what an f'ing mess he made...

  •  I'm just not into politicizing this today. (2+ / 0-)
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    I just went outside to go get a burrito, and today is just the same kind of day as Sept. 11 was: crisp, nearly cloudless, cool, and still.  

    The point is, we got him.  For today at least, I'm leaving it at that.

    Still, I am happy that now many arguments people would have tried to use against Obama ('he is for the terrorists', 'he's a Muslim', etc.) will now only remind people that he got Osama.  Even his name reminds you that he got Osama.  Attempting to spin these events any other way only serves to remind people that he got Osama.  It is unerasable.

  •  A listen to NPR (2+ / 0-)
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    happymisanthropy, stolen water

    clearly shows an effort to rehabilitate Bush and his cronies and justify the wars (al queda linked to Hussein and present in Iraq: Headley), Negroponte: this the fruit of structures laid down by Bush.

    This is a sick, sick society.

    Ordinary political process is dead. The Supreme Court killed it. In Chambers. With a gavel.

    by Publius2008 on Mon May 02, 2011 at 08:57:51 AM PDT

    •  Also note the (1+ / 0-)
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      Guantanamo spin (and thereby abu ghirab and torture generally?).  Yeah, a guy divulged Osama's location after 8 yrs in stir.  I believe everything I hear.

      Fact is, likely a joint paki CIA project in exchange for cease of drone strikes.

      Ordinary political process is dead. The Supreme Court killed it. In Chambers. With a gavel.

      by Publius2008 on Mon May 02, 2011 at 09:00:04 AM PDT

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    •  it's a playbook they stole from al franken. (0+ / 0-)

      when bush was being all triumphant about the iraq invasion, franken pointed out to cheney that they went in with the military infrastructure built by clinton.

      dictators & imperial democracies are the biggest terrorists of them all. ...

      by stolen water on Mon May 02, 2011 at 09:35:00 AM PDT

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  •  This clip cut off the best part (0+ / 0-)

    "I don't know, nor do I... uh"

    I can't be an elitist! I have stupid friends!

    by happymisanthropy on Mon May 02, 2011 at 09:20:03 AM PDT

  •  The most infuriating moment of the 2004 debates (5+ / 0-)

    In the last debate, Kerry brought up that Bush quote.  Bush bare-faced lied that it was one of Kerry's "ex-agger-ations" and there was no follow-up.

    Instead there was an orgy of faux-rage over Kerry's mere mention of Cheney's gay daughter.

    It makes me seethe even now.  That Bush quote should have been enough to defeat him in 2004 and spare us Alito, Roberts and maybe even the financial crisis (or  ameliorated it).

    Instead a bullshit "fainting-couch" issue drove the post-debate coverage and probably cost Kerry Ohio.

    Liberal media indeed.

    The GOP: "You can always go to the Emergency Room."

    by Upper West on Mon May 02, 2011 at 09:21:45 AM PDT

  •  yay! (0+ / 0-)
    In July 2006, we learned that the Bush administration closed its unit that had been hunting bin Laden.

    thank you for pointing to it. couldn't get over it the first time i heard it. says volumes about the man. can we please not let this detail go down the memory hole? next time baggers even try to criticize dems on foreign policy or security, this should be thrown back in their faces.

    dictators & imperial democracies are the biggest terrorists of them all. ...

    by stolen water on Mon May 02, 2011 at 09:30:19 AM PDT

  •  I hate to say this... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    ...but Bush deserves a (very) small amount of slack for downplaying the importance of hunting Bin Laden.  He gets no slack for going into Iraq or for disbanding the CIA's unit that was hunting for Bin Laden, but the U.S. had to find a balance between obsessively focusing on one man whose ability to conduct operations has almost certainly been completely dismantled and fighting Al Qaeda.  Moreover, the president (whether Obama or Bush) really had to play an expectations game, since Bin Laden's capture was never a sure thing.

    In 2009, Obama himself said, "My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him," he said. "But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America."

    So Obama basically said the same thing, but he expressed himself without sounding like an idiot, something Bush is incapable of doing.  And he did exactly the right thing by publicly downplaying expectations while quietly focusing like a laser on the task.  The results speak for themselves.

  •  Spoken like the true chickenhawks they are (0+ / 0-)

    It's ironic how GOoPer politicians, under the banner of patriotism, want to send our troops into battle but are also the first to call for cutting Veteran's benefits.

    Sarah Palin is like a torn and tattered American flag that should have been taken down long ago.

    by mojave mike on Mon May 02, 2011 at 09:55:06 AM PDT

  •  My video (1+ / 0-)
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    Glad to see my video of Bush getting so much play.

    I first posted it in 2006. It got more hits in five minutes last night than it got in all of last year. :)

    19,000 hits since yesterday.

  •  Poor George (1+ / 0-)
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    If only he would have made getting bin Laden a PRIORITY, then maybe he would have been able to finish the job that President Clinton started (as President Clinton asked him to) but instead he decided to fake evidence of WMDs in Iraq so that we could anger the world getting us stuck in the sand, shooting off trillions of dollars worth of oversized firecrackers.  Fortunately, there always seem to be Democrats around who have their priorities straight to come in and clean up the mess that Republicans always seem to leave behind.

    Congratulations, President Obama, for finishing the job that President Clinton started.

    Wisconsin is closed for political maintenance.

    by Subversive on Mon May 02, 2011 at 10:48:24 AM PDT

  •  Play the video (0+ / 0-)

    I about died laughing when bush said " he's the ultimate parasite, he exploited weakness, he met his match."

    You're right on george!!!!!  You are a parasite and you exploited your weak minded base.

    Oh, and before that you said " we've destroyed his host country."  

    Well you tried that here also but didn't quite get 'er done.......

    "If fighting for a more equal and equitable distribution of the wealth of this country is socialistic, I stand guilty of being a socialist." Walter Reuther

    by fugwb on Mon May 02, 2011 at 11:46:01 AM PDT

  •  George Bush? (0+ / 0-)

    He's just a person who's been marginalized.... I don't know where he is. I really just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you.

    "The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also." -- Mark Twain

    by rambler american on Mon May 02, 2011 at 04:32:36 PM PDT

  •  Would love to see this (0+ / 0-)

    in a 30 second TV commercial....
       i can Dream of the day Dems learn to play Hardball

    a single kind word will keep one warm for years--- fortune cookie saying

    by OMwordTHRUdaFOG on Mon May 02, 2011 at 05:26:19 PM PDT

  •  Politicizing 9/11 (0+ / 0-)

    We were rightly critical of the Right for politicizing the attacks  of 9/11, but now that Obama is doing exactly the same thing, there is a deafening silence. We need to be consistent, or we will be targets.

    What he is doing is wrong. And we should say it!

    •  Bullshit (1+ / 0-)
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      bin Laden was responsible for the deaths of many. He got what he deserved.
      There is nothing inconsistent about going after an enemy. If Bush had actually tried it, we could have probably avoided war in Afghanistan, and certainly Iraq.
      But for Bush/Cheney, it never was about bin Laden. It was about oil and how much of it they could steal, while making lots and lots of money.
      Bush never gave a damn about bin Laden. Bush allowed bin Laden to attack the US. Bush never went after the perpetrator of the 9/11 attacks.
      Obama has now laid the crap of the past ten years to rest.
      Please make a note of it.

  •  WHO CARES...... (0+ / 0-)


  •  If you live in Texas it was Bush who got bin Laden (0+ / 0-)

    I live in Texas and for some bizarre reason the local news channels begin their newscasts crediting Bush with the death of Bin Laden.Didn't talk about Obama until a few minutes later.Talk about your revisionist history.They don't even mention that Bush himself said he didn't spend much time thinking about bin Laden.I wish they'd talk about how he used that tragedy misleading uninformed Americans to settle an old score with the evil Saddam going back to Daddy Bush but the local Texas tv  news channels didn't bring that one up.In Texas Dubya can do no wrong.

  •  Fer sure... (0+ / 0-)

    Yeah, fer sure I feel vindicated in the grounded belief that Bush did not know what he was doing...

    And the grounded belief that for me, for you and for everyone the space of time Jan 2001 to Jan 2009 were a waste of time on this planet due to that worthless incompetent Bush and his puppetmaster Cheney.

    Ugh. --UB.

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