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As of this moment, the local weather is rather elevated in temperature, just on the brink of the official start of summer at the solstice.  Thus it would seem a good day to turn on the air conditioning for the first time this year.  However, I haven't done that just yet, although it may depend at some point on how much the cats whine, if they concern themselves about such things.  So from that, of course, one can muse about an old environmental concern, the impact of A/C on climate change, carbon footprints and such.....

INPO (or even INP sense of importance):
(1) One place to read about getting a suitable unit for one's home is this link from the "Cut Your Footprint" site, which notes:

".....many homes in America will have several units, using up valuable energy and contributing to global warming caused by their high levels of carbon emissions.....

....most people will buy [an A/C unit] that is considerably too big for their room causing excessive carbon emissions."

(2) From Beachside Air Conditioning, a California business, a tidbit from this page:

"Americans spend $11 billion keeping their homes cool every year, and the average American air conditioning unit releases almost 2 tons of carbon dioxide every year."

(3) The Global Warming page (note its address in the following URL) has this page, which has this somewhat disquieting passage:

"We can never expect to eliminate the use of air conditioners in homes, because the idea is unrealistic, and honestly, air conditioners do save lives. We live in modern societies where we must be permitted modern conveniences, and air conditioners are one of those human luxuries that we will most certainly not give up."

(4) In sort of the same spirit as (3), Molly Priesmeyer has this blog post from the Live Green Twin Cities site:

"I have simple pleasures I can't easily forgo, and a cool place to sleep sweat-induced nightmare-free is one of them."

BTW, Priesmeyer links back to another post about tips to reduce use.  Her comments on commercial use are also eye-poppers, which you can understand intuitively if you work in an office setting, as I do.

Self does fall into that category as well, as do many of us, regarding creature comfort benefits of A/C.  I'll use my A/C (at home and in the car), but as minimally as I think that I can stand.  Of course, if I think about it, I wonder what effect that me not turning on the A/C or keeping the temperature somewhat high has on my upstairs neighbors.  In  principle, their floor is warmer than would be otherwise, which may affect their bill, if not mine.

In fact, at an afternoon concert that I attended last weekend, it was also quite warm, and the A/C was kept on to keep the audience and performers reasonably cool.  However, the lights were turned off because of the noise they were making, but also because there was enough ambient light to read the sung texts by.  At intermission, I half-jokingly asked one of the concert organizers if it might be possible to turn off the A/C for the second half of the concert, for reasons of sound, but also because I thought the building was cooled down enough that we could deal with 45 minutes w/o a running A/C.  She replied that they'd thought of it beforehand, but that the computer program that controls the A/C couldn't be overridden.  Sometimes technology is a bear.

So with that, time for the usual SNLC protocol, namely your loser stories of the week, which may or may not involve A/C or related issues.  Just as an FYI, this is an "absentee landlord" posting, so I won't be replying to comments right away.  If any of the regulars stop by, feel free to keep the chit-chat going and mojo comments until I get back.  This assumes, of course, that all the comments made in my absence are fit to read :) .  As noted, technology can be a bear, if various ways.

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  •  so, from here (12+ / 0-)

    Yet another round of bowling loserness this week; team lost all 3 games again.  We....are....such....losers.....

    "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

    by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 10:38:51 AM PDT

  •  The AC season started without a hitch at Chez aoeu (5+ / 0-)

    The house is now thirty years old and all the contractor grade crap is in need of attention. The attic exhaust fan was on my list last month and I bought a ladder and squeezed up through the poorly placed small hole in the ceiling to get to it.

    I could barely turn it with my hand and oiling the motor made a huge difference in the level and quality of noise. The duct system is about halfway converted to summer pattern. I need to wait until I'm sure before I change all the outlets in Mother's room.

    Stink bug season is nearly over and I'll be putting the closet exhaust fan back soon. That really helps. The goal is to try and keep the upstairs and the downstairs within five degrees of one another. Seven to ten is the normal spread and I suffer year round keeping Mother comfortable.

    Fans are my friends and I keep one going in my room all year.

    •  I am also a fan fan (3+ / 0-)
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      aoeu, ladybug53, chingchongchinaman

      I live where it's dry enough that a swamp cooler is all I need.  Much cheaper than A/C.  Most of my neighbors use A/C though.

      Most nights, just a fan is enough.  Early in the morning, when it's cooler out than in, I turn on the attic fan.

      •  Without A/C I used a two fan strategy (2+ / 0-)

        one pulling air in a window and one pointing straight at me. Now I use a three fan strategy. The attic fan keeping the attic from getting too hot, a small fan forcing the hottest air in the house into the attic, and a small fan pointed straight at me.

        •  obviously the 3 fans work out..... (1+ / 0-)
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          aoeu

          .....cheaper and less carbon-footprinty than the A/C, presumably.

          "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

          by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 09:47:08 PM PDT

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          •  They reduce the footprint of the A/C (1+ / 0-)
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            chingchongchinaman

            by reducing the load on it rather than replacing it. 85 is OK to me as long as air is moving.

            •  OK, fair enough (0+ / 0-)

              I mentioned in another post that I do sometimes run the ceiling fan in the bedroom along with the A/C, for circulation purposes.  It's more interesting now with 2 cats, since I keep the cats out of the bedroom, which limits overall circulation in the place.

              "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

              by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 10:10:31 PM PDT

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      •  when I can, will just use the fan, i.e...... (1+ / 0-)
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        Mother Shipper

        .....if it's just mildly warm and I think the fan is enough for me during the night.  Don't concern myself so much with the kittehs overnight that way :) .

        "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

        by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 09:51:17 PM PDT

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    •  I suppose it's kind of loser on me that...... (1+ / 0-)
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      ......not only is the A/C on, so is the fan here, to "circulate the air" around the room completely.  This reminds me that I need to vacuum the place tomorrow, e.g. cat hair collection.

      "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

      by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 09:46:16 PM PDT

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  •  Lived in New Orleans for awhile..... (8+ / 0-)

    ...where the A/C is delicious, prevalent and sensuous. Also lived in New Orleans when the A/C wasn't working or the power went off (because of overload or once because I didn't pay the bill!)  You must be youthful and in love to take full advantage of those possibilities. Everything is slippery. Doing that with the A/C on just is not the same. Really. And I think the South has lost something now that no one really uses their verandas anymore.  When I was a kid visiting the South, sitting on the veranda was an important family and/or neighborhood event.

    Now I live on a breezy hill in Southern California that has the most amazing natural air conditioning. A/C only needed maybe 20 days of the 10 years I have lived here, but I don't have A/C: I do have very powerful ceiling fans.

    Am hoping to move to Hawaii this year. Please pray for me! My humble home there has no heat and it has no air conditioning -- only ceiling fans.

    May God light the path for me to go there. I will spend the rest of my life in dutiful service and all Kossacks can visit. Tip me as a way of saying amen to my prayer.

    I didn't intend the above as a factual statement.

    by Bensdad on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 06:55:55 PM PDT

    •  in southern CA, one presumes that...... (1+ / 0-)
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      ......you're close to the coast, given the very mild-sounding weather.  BTW, since you mention potentially moving to Hawaii, have you ever read David Lodge's Paradise News?  One of the characters has her own rather contrarian take on Hawaii.

      "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

      by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 09:32:48 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, about a mile from the water as.... (2+ / 0-)

        ...the crow flies. San Diego County. It can get hot here, especially a few miles inland, but I am in a very curious microclimate on a hill above a valley. The valley sucks air and creates an effect the name of which I forget (Venturi?) that cause air to speed up as it comes off the ocean and through the valley. So as it gets warmer inland, the breeze gets brisk. Too cold for a pool (if I could afford one).

        Nope, haven't read Paradise News. Have to check it out. I understand contrarian views of Hawaii. There is a clash of cultures beneath the surface, it is quite remote and some get island fever. Most, in fact. Hawaiians like to visit Las Vegas --noise, lights, entertainment (and gambling!).

        Within five days after I bought my house there, lava started flowing toward it, about 12 miles away, there was a serious earthquake and this was followed by Hurricane Flossie.

        I didn't intend the above as a factual statement.

        by Bensdad on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 10:18:31 PM PDT

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        •  sounds nice (mostly) in So. CA (1+ / 0-)
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          Nothing like your own private microclimate, it seems :) .

          About Paradise News, the one character says just what you describe about "island fever".  I was on a David Lodge kick a while back, but have slacked off since.

          "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

          by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 10:31:46 PM PDT

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      •  Southern California (1+ / 0-)
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        has many micro-climates.  In any one day, it could be overcast and 65 at the beach and 110 out in the desert.  

        "From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California, a good evening.  Here's what's happening." KABC Anchor Jerry Dunphy.  Grew up with that intro every evening. Not that it has to do with climate, but So. Cal is very diverse geographically.

  •  We use more A/c than I'd like because (6+ / 0-)

    my husband has COPD, and he cannot handle any heightening of humidity (he has to use an inhaler after a shower, even with leaving the doors open) and he cannot deal with heat much above 72. His "happy place" is low-humidity and about 62 degrees. With a lot of air movement.

    Unfortunately my happy place physiologically is a little more humidity and about 74.

    I can handle this most of the time by just wearing more clothes. However, one of the criteria for our next house is that we have separate bedrooms. And in the short term I am hoping soon to get a decent new mattress for the futon, so I can start sleeping on it.

    It is what it is. It will be what I make it.

    by Alexandra Lynch on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 07:05:00 PM PDT

  •  it depends on the humidity (5+ / 0-)

    it is very hard for the a/c to be started when the house is already at 82f and humidity is over 50% - the a/c has to work so hard to get the humidity under control that the temp doesn't decrease for some time.  

    i need to lower the awnings.  it's been so chilly and wet and cloudy all spring i haven't needed to before now.  

  •  oh a loser story (3+ / 0-)

    i am writing both waywo and brothers and sisters for tomorrow.  they are getting a bit mixed up in my mind ;-)  

  •  hi (5+ / 0-)

    We are home and we had a good time with the grandbabies.

    It was the uno birthday of the mighty midget.  He is tiny, but so much fun.  A wiggle worm and a fast crawler.  Mr. Personality.  OK..so I guess that is a bit of propaganda. :)

    Too tired to comment on AC.  Ours is an underground loop furnace so our AC is nearly free and more natural so hopefully less of a carbon problem.

    Must go to bed...now. :)

    Best wishes!

    Join us at Bookflurries: Bookchat on Wednesday nights 8:00 PM EST

    by cfk on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 07:41:10 PM PDT

    •  good to know grandkid time was fun (3+ / 0-)
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      Not sure if my youngest nephew is that "mighty midget" like, but I'll get the report at Xmas time, the next time I see him.

      BTW, I did break down and turn on the A/C today for the 1st time all year.  Just to 79 F, though, FWIW.

      "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

      by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 09:39:14 PM PDT

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      •  3CM, I'm (3+ / 0-)

        firmly in the "fan of fans" fan club, heh.

        I'm lucky in that this place has two opposite windows (kitchen window faces west, my room's window faces east) so on a windy day I get a cross-draft that makes the fan blades turn even when the fan is off.

        And b/c of my schedule, a lot of my computer time is at night, when it's usually much cooler anyway -- right now, the fan's on low & I have a light long-sleeved shirt over my T-shirt.

        Not that it's chilly tonight -- but the place cooled off quickly once I got home from work, and I'm sitting directly in front of said fan.

        It can be awful when temps approach 100, esp. if the humidity is high, but if I'm not at work with their a/c, I can take refuge elsewhere during the worst of the afternoon (i.e., my friend's pub).

        Over the past 30-odd years, the Democrats have moved to the right, and the Republicans have moved into a mental hospital. --Bill Maher

        by Youffraita on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 11:02:06 PM PDT

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        •  so during the day..... (1+ / 0-)
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          Youffraita

          .....you just avoid being around home and having the A/C on?  I'm sure I'm misreading that somehow.

          "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

          by chingchongchinaman on Sun Jun 05, 2011 at 10:55:35 AM PDT

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          •  Yes, you are misreading (1+ / 0-)
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            i DON'T HAVE A/C.  But if it's really hot, I go to my friend's pub & hang until temps cool off a bit.  Then set the fan on high.  Then, if necessary, strip down to skivvies.  

            When I'm at work, there's a/c -- sometimes too cold.  By the time I'm outta there, temps have cooled off, and my fan (usually) does the trick.

            There are maybe two-three weeks during the summer when the heat is awful...I can live with that.

            ;-D

            Over the past 30-odd years, the Democrats have moved to the right, and the Republicans have moved into a mental hospital. --Bill Maher

            by Youffraita on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 12:50:42 AM PDT

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            •  well, told you I was a...... (0+ / 0-)

              .....loser, for misreading ;-P .  Actually, even at work, the A/C seems reasonable, for once, although I'm just in a really bad mood right now apart from that.

              "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

              by chingchongchinaman on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:03:50 PM PDT

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  •  I keep it as low as I can because (4+ / 0-)

    it never gets things cool enough.  I don't have enough amps for a properly sized air conditioner, but what I have is adequate.

    I'm not sure about that premise that having too big an air conditioner is an energy waster.  Keeping the temperature too cool, yes, that's an energy waste.  But a bigger air conditioner might mean a more efficient air conditioner.  I'm trying to remember all the carnot principle shit that explains this and not succeeding at the moment.

    (Maybe a bigger air conditioner just creates less entropy.  Is that what I'm fumbling for?  And that may ultimately mean the same thing.)

    Been a boring week for me.  Same old same old.

    •  actually, if anything, a bigger A/C would..... (2+ / 0-)
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      ....create more entropy, at least IMHO.  I always that the more effort expended in work, the greater the resulting entropy.

      "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

      by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 09:36:24 PM PDT

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  •  Oh, and I thank Sarah Palin this week (3+ / 0-)

    for reminding me of my first grade Paul Revere history lesson.

    Asked who Paul Revere was, she said:

    He who warned the, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms [she pronounces it "are arms"], by ringin' those bells and makin' sure he's ridin' his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free.

    I can see Paul Revere even now, riding his horse into Florida pediatrics clinics, ringing his bells at those pediatricians to warn them they'll get arrested if they try to tell new mothers about the dangers of leaving loaded guns around toddlers.  

    •  am totally out of the loop; did she say that..... (3+ / 0-)
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      Youffraita, Alexandra Lynch, Dumbo

      ....for real?  I know she's an incredibly arrogant ignoramus (or ignorant arrogamus), so such incoherent nonsense from her would be par for the course.

      "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

      by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 09:34:33 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah, I think she did. (2+ / 0-)
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        Dumbo, chingchongchinaman

        There were a couple of diaries about her...lack of historical knowledge.  Don't remember exactly who wrote them, but -- shall we say, her complete lack of knowledge of American history was on full display here.

        Just what you'd expect from someone who majored in sportscasting.  She should stick to basketball & shut up about everything (and I do mean everything else).

        Over the past 30-odd years, the Democrats have moved to the right, and the Republicans have moved into a mental hospital. --Bill Maher

        by Youffraita on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 11:07:38 PM PDT

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        •  hmm, didn't know that about her (1+ / 0-)
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          The sportscasting thing, I mean.  Of course, one wonders if the memory of her "subliminable" role in stoking the atmosphere leading up to the AZ shootings has faded from general consciousness.

          "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

          by chingchongchinaman on Sun Jun 05, 2011 at 10:57:37 AM PDT

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          •  No, seriously, 3CM -- (1+ / 0-)
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            chingchongchinaman

            her degree is in broadcast journalism, which those of us who majored in print journalism always considered a joke.

            And we considered the students in broadcast journalism to be "pretty talking heads" without substance (or brains).

            Teh Sarah is the living example of it.

            Even a sportswriter has to have more intelligence than Sarah can evince...she can't name ONE periodical she reads?  Not ONE?

            Dumber than dishwater, she is.

            Which is about what we print journalism grads expect from TV "journalists."

            Over the past 30-odd years, the Democrats have moved to the right, and the Republicans have moved into a mental hospital. --Bill Maher

            by Youffraita on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 12:43:14 AM PDT

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            •  shows you how much.... (0+ / 0-)

              ....I know, I guess.  Unfortunately, tons of wingnut females are apparently with her and Bachmann.

              "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

              by chingchongchinaman on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:01:49 PM PDT

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      •  Actually, this was just YESTERDAY, (1+ / 0-)
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        so she's working overtime at being stupid, now.  Most people would temper their motor mouth after a few embarrassments like that, but she just keeps on going.

        http://blogs.abcnews.com/...

        In fact, if you google Sarah Palin right now, the first autocomplete that pops up is "sarah palin paul revere".

        •  obviously it takes little effort from her..... (1+ / 0-)
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          .....to be stupid and ignorant, since it comes to her so naturally.  What really gets me is how morons like her can just keep going and going, while if I were to make some sort of mistake like that, I'd beat myself up mentally for days.

          "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

          by chingchongchinaman on Sun Jun 05, 2011 at 10:58:49 AM PDT

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          •  She's sticking to her guns. (1+ / 0-)
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            Today on Fox:

            Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there that, “Hey. You’re not going to succeed. You’re not going to take American arms. You are not gonna beat our own well-armed, uh, persons, uh, individual private militia that we have. He did warn the British."

            I guess she's daring people to say she's ignorant because she wants the non-elitist vote.  I.e., the people too dumb to remember a first grade poem and resentful of know-it-all first-graders.

  •  No A/C in house. Almost always "on" (2+ / 0-)

    in car though.  

    Anyone see the L.A. Phil. H.D. today?  I didn't.  Mark Swed, LAT, enjoyed the Thurs. night version (perhaps w/o lighting effect).  

    •  today? We get it..... (2+ / 0-)
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      ......later on Sunday, unless you get a "local" version earlier.

      "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

      by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 10:11:05 PM PDT

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      •  Oops. (2+ / 0-)

        Has Shakespeare in the Park started yet?

        •  yes, it's been on for 2 weekends so far (2+ / 0-)
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          I saw it last Saturday; they cut too much of the "taming" part for my taste, not that I've read the whole play, mind you.  It just seems to me that the "taming" part seems rather abrupt, in terms of the character change of Katharina.  One other way (or rationalization) that I can kind of form in my head is that Katharina, if not exactly "tamed", at least learns how to turn it on and turn it off, rather than just be a man-eater 24/7.

          "It's only in books that the officers of the detective force are superior to the weakness of making a mistake." (Wilkie Collins, The Moonstone)

          by chingchongchinaman on Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 10:33:32 PM PDT

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