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I never intended to weigh in on the Weinergate controversy, but...

If Huma Abedin was my daughter and her husband of one year was texting pictures of his junk to a coed, I would tell her to RUN, not walk, to the nearest exit.

Here are some other issues that come from my gut...

Making Andrew Breitbart appear legitimate is an UNFORGIVABLE sin. Shirley Sherrod deserved defense, but Anthony Weiner has made more targets possible for Brietbart. If he bats .200 he'll stay right where he is. Thanks AW for keeping him in the spotlight. Oh, and don't think that O'Keefe has not noticed this win for the Dark Side. Expect more garbage from him, and expect more of the media to take it seriously.

Consenting adults is totally legitimate, but when you're sending stuff out on the Internet you have lost control of it--this is more than bad judgement. There have been too many recent examples of this for AW to not have been forewarned.

Put yourself in Huma Abedin's shoes. What an accomplished and intelligent young woman, and here, after one year of marriage, your husband is dragging young in the mud with behavior I expect from a 16-20 year old or a very  immature young man at best.

I realize that Vitter is a scumbag, and I realize that Clarence Thomas should be impeached, but guess what--that has absolutely nothing to do with AW's behavior. Two wrongs don't make a right, they never did. Moreover, when we defend this crap, even though it's not equal, we give a pass to jackasses like Vitter and Thomas. Someone on the other side perceives our attacks on Vitter and Thomas as political.  

I stayed out of all this until after he admitted his guilt. It is time to move on, and stop wasting our limited resources on an arrogant man who thought he was entitled to behave any way he chose fit. Sure, he was a good soldier on our side, but he made himself vulnerable and wasted a ton of good people's resources around her in just the last week.

Should he resign? I don't think so, but I think he should not seek re-election and avoid the drama of a primary challenge.

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  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    You may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife, and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

    by FrankCornish on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 05:46:09 AM PDT

  •  Weiner didn't have sex with anyone but his wife. (2+ / 0-)
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    lunachickie, bronte17

    You can't even tell him to "keep it in his pants"-- he kept it in his pants. It was an underwear shot. I can't think of any other "sex scandal" that's as tame as this. And that's in quotes because it hardly qualifies as a sex scandal. A big deal about nothing.

    "We can have concentrated wealth in the hands of a few or we can have democracy, but we can't have both."-- Justice Louis Brandeis

    by ubertar on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 05:56:18 AM PDT

    •  Gee, well I guess he's A OK. My Bad. nt (1+ / 0-)
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      You may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife, and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

      by FrankCornish on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 05:59:47 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  It was an underwear shot sent to a random (2+ / 0-)
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      women that he did not know and had not obtained consent.

      It what world is this acceptable?

      "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

      by justmy2 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 07:00:06 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Is that clear? (0+ / 0-)

        I haven't seen anything that shows conclusively this woman was "random". They may have been sending private messages for some time prior to the pic being sent. The woman in question isn't complaining, and if she's offended or feels harassed, it's up to her to say so, not Breitbart or anyone else.

        "We can have concentrated wealth in the hands of a few or we can have democracy, but we can't have both."-- Justice Louis Brandeis

        by ubertar on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 07:45:22 AM PDT

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        •  she is complaining and denying... (1+ / 0-)
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          http://blog.seattlepi.com/...

          Gennette Cordova, the 21-year-old college student ensnared in a lewd Twitter controversy with Rep. Anthony Weiner, said Monday she “had zero inappropriate interactions with him.”

          She made the denial via Twitter just seconds after Weiner, a congressman from New York, admitted during a press conference that he sent Cordova a photo of his crotch. He also admitted to having relationships with several women online — but said he wouldn’t resign from public office.

          “He has had six inappropriate relationships with women online in the last three years,” Cordova wrote on Twitter. “If it wasn’t clear, I was not one of them.

          Another Twitter user accused Cordova of lying Monday, saying the congressman said he interacted with her before. She responded: “Did I miss the part where he said we had inappropriate exchanges? Because that never happened.”

          Is anybody actually following the story?  Or are people just putting blinders on?  Let's stick with the facts.

          "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

          by justmy2 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 08:56:46 AM PDT

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          •  hadn't seen that. (0+ / 0-)

            to be honest, I haven't been following the story very closely. I think it's inconsequential.

            "We can have concentrated wealth in the hands of a few or we can have democracy, but we can't have both."-- Justice Louis Brandeis

            by ubertar on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 09:35:17 AM PDT

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    •  You know that . . . how? (0+ / 0-)

      I suspect that the only safe position to take (as an "outsider") is that it's nobody's business but theirs.

      And that (as far as we know) he didn't do anything illegal.

      Just stupid . . .

      Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

      by Deward Hastings on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 08:02:50 AM PDT

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      •  like anyone else, he's presumed innocent (0+ / 0-)

        until and unless there's evidence to the contrary.
        Beyond that, I'm going by my gut, based on what I've seen of him over the years.

        "We can have concentrated wealth in the hands of a few or we can have democracy, but we can't have both."-- Justice Louis Brandeis

        by ubertar on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 08:12:45 AM PDT

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    •  So when the photo comes out (1+ / 0-)
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      where he HASN'T kept it in his pants, on what new basis will you equivocate on his behalf?

      •  honestly, I really don't care (0+ / 0-)

        about this kind of thing, unless there's hypocrisy involved. He's a liberal and a progressive, not a "family values" leave-it-to-Beaver prude. There should be at least twice as many diaries about C. Thomas' lies about his wife's income as about Wiener's weiner, if not ten times as many. AW could take it out and wave it around on live TV, for all I care. It's a dick. Around half of us have one. I just don't think this is such a big deal.

        "We can have concentrated wealth in the hands of a few or we can have democracy, but we can't have both."-- Justice Louis Brandeis

        by ubertar on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 10:08:30 AM PDT

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  •  If She Was My Daughter (4+ / 0-)
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    I wouldn't say anything.

    Find me fast on Daily Kos by following me.

    by bink on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 05:58:16 AM PDT

  •  Yeah, the worst part of all of this (5+ / 0-)

    is that he makes Breitbart seem legitimate.   I don't give a shit who sends who what in the private personal life, I just don't feel like its my business.  The only positive in all of this, unchecked ego like Brietbarts will flame out in a big way, it always does.   I hope it's as public as he made this garbage.

    •  I'm not on Twitter, (5+ / 0-)

      but I generally do not put anything in any email that I would not want anyone to read.

      If I have something private to discuss, I discuss it in private.

      You may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife, and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

      by FrankCornish on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 06:03:10 AM PDT

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    •  Does he though? (2+ / 0-)
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      As far as I can see, the techies weren't wrong. If he wasn't already being stalked, if they weren't already looking to bring him down, this would have never been "Weinergate". He shouldn't have done it, I am not making excuses, I really thought he was too tech saavy to make a mistake like this. But, it was captured the second he tweeted it. Twitter has known issues with sending private messages in your Twitter Timeline, Anthony recognized he didn't send it private and deleted it, someone was following close enough to grab it. Then they went on a mission for other pics. He was already being stalked, that part is true, otherwise they couldn't have gotten the original picture. My feeling was if they hadn't found more, they were going to fabricate it anyway. I am by no means saying I am not disappointed in Rep. Weiner's stupidity, but from the moment he started tweeting about Clarence Thomas, the deal was sealed. He should have never lied, this was a stupid, childish thing to do, but there were no laws broken and he would have survived it just fine.
      I will not call for him to step down or refuse to run again, this is just what this scandal was about, getting rid of Anthony Weiner! And as childish as it is I wouldn't have apologized to Breitfart, I would have given them a list of people hurt by Breitfart's screen captures, lies and outright manipulation. Remember, they had to be already digging to find this!

      Republicans piss on you and tell you it's raining, Democrats hand you an umbrella!

      by Nica24 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 07:43:02 AM PDT

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  •  Wow (0+ / 0-)

    So only perfectly chaste Dems should ever run for office, ever again? Good luck with that.

    And are we really worried about "media" giving Andrew Breitbart legitimacy? They laid down with a dog when they hired him at CNN, and you're gonna worry cuz they'll all get fleas now?

    REPEAL the Telecomm Act & REVIEW this decision. NO journalist should be fired because their boss can't have the truth told.

    by lunachickie on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 06:11:13 AM PDT

    •  progressive pile-on resurrected breitbart (4+ / 0-)
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      weiner had nothing to do with breitbart's redemption....

      it was the voracious and ferocious circling of the wagons and counterattack on breitbart by the liberal blogosphere.  I was amazed by how delusional all my colleagues on the left seemed to have suddenly become.  And the more preposterous the weiner lie, the more vicious the attack on breitbart.  

      it was truly bizarre.

      so yeah, breitbart-- the lowest of the low-- has just been redeemed and legitimized.  but weiner is less guilty than the reflexive left.  

      i agree with you on the character issue though.  very sad.

      "the best revenge is not to be like them" Marcus Aurelius

      by lopaloo on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 06:25:47 AM PDT

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      •  No (0+ / 0-)

        CNN resurrected Breitbart.

        I'm sorry that people want to displace their angst and insist that this is ALL Weiner's fault and that going forward, Democrats be as pure as the damned driven snow. Because that ain't gonna happen, and anyone insisting it should really has delusion issues on a completely different level than those of your fellow Democrats who were trying to--again--nail a known serial liar.

        One who was recently given legitimacy by corporate ownership of our news.

        REPEAL the Telecomm Act & REVIEW this decision. NO journalist should be fired because their boss can't have the truth told.

        by lunachickie on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 06:33:05 AM PDT

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        •  Knowing what I know about human nature... (0+ / 0-)

          ...after 60+ years, I would guess that most of the defenders of Rep. Weiner AND most of his critics and right wing attackers have participated in one kind or another of online kinkiness involving pictures of their anatomy.

          We'll never know, though, if they've been smarter than the stalked and heretofore-believed-to-be intelligent NY congressman, will we?

          Question now is, will the right-leaning eager-for-salacious-stories MSM continue to dog this story, or will a chastened Rep. Weiner be able to go back to Congress in session next week and continue his attention directed toward Justice Thomas, who is a POS of a different kind, and who should be investigated even more stringently than Rep. Weiner?

    •  Not the argument I made, (4+ / 0-)

      but nice try.

      However, I would say that people in the public eye, specifically in public office, not celebrities, should be a bit more circumspect.

      I'm tired of really poor judgement despite politics. Oh, and he didn't really handle it well--his twitter was Hacked? Please.

      I choose not to be an enabler.

      You may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife, and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

      by FrankCornish on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 06:30:24 AM PDT

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      •  I said all along (1+ / 0-)
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        he wasn't hacked. And that was proven before yesterday's news conference, when a giant security hole in yfrog was discovered, and yfrog plugged it up immediately.

        Are you going to deny that, too?

        Coming down hard on Weiner enables the likes of CNN and Breitbart. That's exactly what they want you to do.

        And being circumspect is in the eye of the beholder.  You want to quit being an enabler? Turn off your television and cancel your cable service.

        REPEAL the Telecomm Act & REVIEW this decision. NO journalist should be fired because their boss can't have the truth told.

        by lunachickie on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 06:38:49 AM PDT

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    •  You're still bleating this "perfectly chaste" (2+ / 0-)
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      rubbish?

      Stop exaggerating.  Nobody is asking monks to run for Congress.  They're merely asking that those who do make it into Congress keep their dick off the internets for the duration.  

  •  She's not your daughter, though. (8+ / 0-)

    Or mine.

    Or, unless Mr. or Mrs. Abedin is a Kossack, anyone else's on this site.

    Quite frankly, since Anthony Weiner has never tried to legislate what happens in any of our bedrooms, and has never bleated about the "sanctity of marriage," I don't see why it's any of our business what happens in his bedroom or what's happening in his marriage.

    It's an embarrassment, sure, but he (a) didn't break any laws, (b) isn't guilty of hypocrisy, and (c) isn't likely to lose his seat in the next election over this issue. So let's talk about things that matter.

    •  Yes I really love it when the people (1+ / 0-)
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      who represent the positions I like behave like drunk frat guys. It's funny in a movie, not so much in reality.

      She's not my daughter, but what a horrible mess to find herself in. I don't think she should "Stand By Her Man."

      You may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife, and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

      by FrankCornish on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 06:32:16 AM PDT

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    •  Again, he admitted to sending semi explicit (2+ / 0-)
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      pictures to a random women without her consent.  Why do you find that acceptable?

      No one should care what consenting adults do.  But it seems to me that simply following someone on Twitter does not give one permission to semi explicit pictures to others.

      "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

      by justmy2 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 07:03:41 AM PDT

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      •  People (and businesses) (0+ / 0-)

        send me mail . . . e-mail and snail mail both, "without [my] consent".  Call my phone, too, despite the "do not call" listing.   Come to my door with petitions they want me to sign, and to ask for money, too.  Sometimes (especially the phone) it's enough to be annoying, even.  I throw it away, or hang up.  The cute petitioners I sometimes ask if I get a "bonus" for a large enough donation.  Most leave quickly after that.

        So sue me . . .

        Oh, and I see random women on the street showing more skin than the Congresscritter (that we know of) . . . do you favor a public dress code too ? ? ?  Burka, maybe ? ? ?

        Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

        by Deward Hastings on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 08:20:40 AM PDT

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        •  Do those people show up to your front door (0+ / 0-)

          erect in their underwear?

          I tell you what.  Snap a picture of yourself in your underwear, and text it to your entire address book with the text "LOL - Gotcha"...

          Let me know how that works out for you and your burqa strawman.

          Stop being silly...

          "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

          by justmy2 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 10:20:44 AM PDT

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  •  Frank... this is a long term war in which (0+ / 0-)

    we must engage the conservative wingnuts.

    Weiner lost a little skirmish, but it does not mean the jerks win the war.

    You have given entirely too much weight to Breitbart and their side in this "win." And that is not good for us for you to be so self-defeating.  

    Weiner's flirting is so tame. But, his true worth to us is that he's a lion of a warrior for the common people. That's why they tracked him and followed him and trailed him... to catch him in any transgression possible.


    I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly, because you tread on my dreams. --William Butler Yeats

    by bronte17 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 07:47:30 AM PDT

    •  Funny, my wife, who is quite liberal (6+ / 0-)

      does not see his behavior as a mere transgression or tame. I've been married 20 years and if I pulled a stunt like that she kick my ass out in a heartbeat, and I would not blame her. I don't think this is an isolated incident either.

      I guess our perspectives are very different. I've found out that my perspective is pretty out of step around here. Is it really too much of me to expect a grownup to act like, well a grownup?

      You may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife, and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

      by FrankCornish on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 08:15:29 AM PDT

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      •  If you drive in America (3+ / 0-)

        you'll see that it is apparently too much to expect a grownup to act like a grownup these days.  

        It's the growing culture of "the rules are for everybody else".  People aren't against the rules, they want them enforced, with extreme harshness--on everybody but themselves and those they choose to exempt.

        "Tu vida es ahora" ~graffiti in Madrid's Puerta del Sol, May, 2011.

        by ActivistGuy on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 08:22:14 AM PDT

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      •  same here (4+ / 0-)

        Not sure exactly how I would handle it but my house would not be a good place to visit for awhile that's for sure.

        I think the thing that ticks me off so much with this is AW's judgment. It just showed horribly bad judgment. I can't separate private from public as far has his judgment is concerned. The actual indiscretion is his own business but the lack of  common sense in putting himself and the party in a terrible position is astounding. I don't like having to play defense for a mess like this that was totally avoidable. I like to save that for policies decisions that gets everyone in a snit and for something that actually matters to the country but here we go again cleaning up the mess of another randy politician fascinated with his penis.

        •  I could not agree more. (0+ / 0-)

          You should never make yourself an easy target when you're in a pitched battle.

          He's sold us out for some pretty petty pleasures.

          You may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife, and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

          by FrankCornish on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 08:55:41 AM PDT

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      •  You're not out of step, Frank. (2+ / 0-)

        It's just that the equivocators have the loudest voices.

  •  The Cover Up Is The Problem. (0+ / 0-)

    I do feel very sorry for Mrs. Weiner.

    It would be tough to forgive and forget, especially where you've been lied to and publicly humiliated as her husband has done to her.

    She certainly deserves better.

    I guess Hillary Clinton was able to overcome her similar ordeal, but to me she has never really recovered.  She never did regain that spark in her after.

    Nothing beats the excitement of dating a player.  They are exciting, outgoing, say what you want to hear, overall an exciting chase.  Then you are surprised when they continue their excitement after you're married, except with other people.  On the other hand does anyone date and marry a dull, boring, stable person so that they can hopefully avoid the later heartache and drama.  

    So either a lifetime of dull and boring versus one of excitement and heartache.

    The worst of all is going for the dull and boring and still ending up with heartache.

    Take the case of Mark Sounder's wife.

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    •  I think there is an inbetween, (1+ / 0-)
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      and I guess as someone who has nearly always played fair, it really bothers me the passes that people give to bad behavior.

      You may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife, and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

      by FrankCornish on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 08:58:36 AM PDT

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      •  Absolutely! (2+ / 0-)
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        I married a man that is smart, funny, loving, caring and fantastic husband and has the most amazing work ethic of anyone I have ever met bar any. We have been married for 35 years and no messing around by either of us. Never wanted to.  First thing he said yesterday when he heard the news about AW was that he should step down. He said he couldn't be doing what he needed to be doing for the country and be this distracted by these women. We need people in these jobs right now that are giving 110%. This country is at stake. Sorry, no pass from me. I am not judging him morally but I am judging his ability to do his job effectively with this hanging over his head. We don't have time to play catch up while this dies down. At the very least he should not seek another term. This mess will be front and center and it will be distracting to the party during election time.

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