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…life is tough for a lot of Americans today. More and more kids grow up without a father figure. Others miss a father who’s away serving his country in uniform. And even for those dads who are present in their children’s lives, the recession has taken a harsh toll. If you’re out of a job or struggling to pay the bills, doing whatever it takes to keep the kids healthy, happy and safe can understandably take precedence over all else.

President Obama marked Father's Day weekend with a blend of the personal and political address this morning, discussing his role with his daughters and the absence of his own father–and the impact of fatherhood on his own life.

I grew up without my father around. He left when I was two years old, and even though my sister and I were lucky enough to have a wonderful mother and caring grandparents to raise us, I felt his absence. And I wonder what my life would have been like had he been a greater presence.

Children, he said, need time, structure, self-discipline, responsibility and unconditional love. And he pointed to initiatives he said his administration is pursuing in order to help fathers in various stations in life spend more time with their children to help them acquire these necessary character skills:

my administration has offered men who want to be good fathers a little extra support. We’ve boosted community and faith-based groups focused on fatherhood, partnered with businesses to offer opportunities for fathers to spend time with their kids at the bowling alley or ballpark, and worked with military chaplains to help deployed dads connect with their children.

More information about the programs, he said, can be found at Fatherhood.gov.

He circled back to conclude the address on a more personal note, this time discussing his efforts to insert himself deeper into the day-to-day lives of his daughters.

So recently, I took on a second job: assistant coach for Sasha’s basketball team. On Sundays, we’d get the team together to practice, and a couple of times, I’d help coach the games. It was a lot of fun–even if Sasha rolled her eyes when her dad voiced his displeasure with the refs.

But I was so proud watching her run up and down the court, seeing her learn and improve and gain confidence. And I was hopeful that in the years to come, she’d look back on experiences like these as the ones that helped define her as a person–and as a parent herself.

Remarks of President Barack Obama
Weekly Address
June 18, 2011

Hi, everybody. This Father’s Day weekend, I’d like to spend a couple minutes talking about what’s sometimes my hardest, but always my most rewarding job–being a dad.

I grew up without my father around. He left when I was two years old, and even though my sister and I were lucky enough to have a wonderful mother and caring grandparents to raise us, I felt his absence. And I wonder what my life would have been like had he been a greater presence.

That’s why I’ve tried so hard to be a good dad for my own children. I haven’t always succeeded, of course–in the past, my job has kept me away from home more often than I liked, and the burden of raising two young girls would sometimes fall too heavily on Michelle.

But between my own experiences growing up, and my ongoing efforts to be the best father I can be, I’ve learned a few things about what our children need most from their parents.

First, they need our time. And more important than the quantity of hours we spend with them is the quality of those hours. Maybe it’s just asking about their day, or talking a walk together, but the smallest moments can have the biggest impact.

They also need structure, including learning the values of self-discipline and responsibility. Malia and Sasha may live in the White House these days, but Michelle and I still make sure they finish their schoolwork, do their chores, and walk the dog.

And above all, children need our unconditional love–whether they succeed or make mistakes; when life is easy and when life is tough.

And life is tough for a lot of Americans today. More and more kids grow up without a father figure. Others miss a father who’s away serving his country in uniform. And even for those dads who are present in their children’s lives, the recession has taken a harsh toll. If you’re out of a job or struggling to pay the bills, doing whatever it takes to keep the kids healthy, happy and safe can understandably take precedence over all else.

That’s why my administration has offered men who want to be good fathers a little extra support. We’ve boosted community and faith-based groups focused on fatherhood, partnered with businesses to offer opportunities for fathers to spend time with their kids at the bowling alley or ballpark, and worked with military chaplains to help deployed dads connect with their children.

We’re doing this because we all have a stake in forging stronger bonds between fathers and their children. And you can find out more about some of what we’re doing at Fatherhood.gov.

But we also know that every father has a personal responsibility to do right by our kids as well. All of us can encourage our children to turn off the video games and pick up a book. All of us can pack a healthy lunch for our son, or go outside and play ball with our daughter. And all of us can teach our children the difference between right and wrong, and show them through our own example the value in treating one another as we wish to be treated.

Our kids are pretty smart. They understand that life won’t always be perfect, that sometimes, the road gets rough, that even great parents don’t get everything right.

But more than anything, they just want us to be a part of their lives.

So recently, I took on a second job: assistant coach for Sasha’s basketball team. On Sundays, we’d get the team together to practice, and a couple of times, I’d help coach the games. It was a lot of fun–even if Sasha rolled her eyes when her dad voiced his displeasure with the refs.

But I was so proud watching her run up and down the court, seeing her learn and improve and gain confidence. And I was hopeful that in the years to come, she’d look back on experiences like these as the ones that helped define her as a person–and as a parent herself.

In the end, that’s what being a parent is all about–those precious moments with our children that fill us with pride and excitement for their future; the chances we have to set an example or offer a piece of advice; the opportunities to just be there and show them that we love them.

That’s something worth remembering this Father’s Day, and every day.

Thanks, and Happy Father’s Day to all the dads out there. Have a great weekend.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:00 AM PDT.

Also republished by Pink Clubhouse.

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  •  The more folks who parent a child, the better. (9+ / 0-)

    It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. --FDR

    by Rube Goldberg on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:08:43 AM PDT

  •  "dad voiced his displeasure with the refs" (10+ / 0-)

    Dads do this, but only one dad has seal team 6 working for him.

    We agree our hair is on fire, we disagree with Paul Ryan's plan to use a sledgehammer to put out the fire

    by JML9999 on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:16:49 AM PDT

  •  Mr. President, you need a jobs program (6+ / 0-)

    What has been proposed of late isn't enough.  Please propose something large.   If Republicans won't support it we will beat them on the issue in 2012.

    Here's my suggestion:

    Directly employ 2 million people to do environmental cleanup.  Start with the Gulf Coast that has been destroyed by oil spills.  There are more than enough jobs in environmental cleanup that can attract both people with manual labor and scientific skills.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:20:19 AM PDT

    •  Being up (1+ / 0-)
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      in the  midwest,I have not heard about the Gulf situation much lately. Is the cleanup continuing? How is that being done? Is oil still on the beaches?

      I am all for BP paying for 2 million workers down there is that is what is needed. Is it? What can they do exactly?

      •  Nothing much is being done in the Gulf (1+ / 0-)
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        to my knowledge.  Actually, I had cleaning up the marshes around the coast.  I am not sure we even have the technology to clean up the oil that is at the bottom of the ocean in the Gulf.

        We are going to pay a major price when wildlife from these areas die out.

        I am sure that there are environmental projects that could be done throughout the country - midwest, etc...  

        I know that in my state of New Jersey we are in desperate need of cleaning up land that used to occupied by factories.  The so called super fund has dried up completely.  This is tragic.  People have to live with this for decades and it is polluting the ground water.

        My point is that we need direct employment.  We can't wait anymore for business to create jobs.  They have no incentive to do so.  They are outsourcing every damn job these days.

        "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

        by noofsh on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:41:07 AM PDT

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    •  Actually... (6+ / 0-)

      He spoke to a jobs council this week, and has been working with companies on creating more green jobs.

      But he needs some help from Congress, and from John "Where are the jobs?" Boehner.

      "We have only the moral ground we actually inhabit, not the moral ground we claim." - It Really Is That Important

      by Diogenes2008 on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:54:04 AM PDT

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    •  A jobs program would need Congressional (2+ / 0-)
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      authority.  Have you noticed that Republicans are blocking anything that could make Pres. Obama look good?  You want more jobs, you have to get more Dems elected.  Dems are not perfect but compared to the alternative ....?

      We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. B. Franklin

      by Observerinvancouver on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 12:27:36 PM PDT

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      •  No, it wouldn't need Congressional approval. (0+ / 0-)

        I'm going to be blunt here.  The President is already violating multiple laws including the Constitution -- ask the ACLU, or ask the OLC about the War Powers Act violation.

        Given that, to hell with Congressional approval, just do what needs to be done.

        I think he just doesn't want to.

        Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

        by neroden on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 04:33:58 PM PDT

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  •  Heh (7+ / 0-)

    Imagine being a referee and the President of the United States is complaining about your calls. You have to wonder if the Secret Service is about to step in and confiscate your whistle :-)


    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:23:39 AM PDT

  •  What an awesome father's day message! n/t (11+ / 0-)

    Perception is reality...

    by Sanuk on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:28:18 AM PDT

  •  he's golfing today; not sure they brought (0+ / 0-)

    the kids along. He's got a job, though, so he's home at night, can lecture the rest of us. Personally, I'm going to be headed away for work shortly, and receive this kind of sanctimonious talk with a bit of rancor. Apologies for those who would rather just talk about it in hushed, reverential tones. One of those issues--for me--where a materialist view (give us f'ing jobs) takes clear precedence over a liberal/sentimental/ethical one.

    Peace, btw, to ALL fathers on Father's Day.

    Let's let the pols do the selling out, you and I keep fighting for what's right.

    by Matthew Detroit on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:32:15 AM PDT

  •  If Obama doesn't watch himself (2+ / 0-)
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    he'll have the dubious honor of presiding over the country when fathers are stripped of their dignity and forced to turn their offspring into carers.

    Destroying Medicaid will lead to this. This is now on the table on his watch.

    •  Already is (1+ / 0-)
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      the dubious honor of presiding over the country when fathers are stripped of their dignity and forced to turn their offspring into carers

      A man burned himself to death in front of the Keene, New Hampshire courthouse on Wednesday to protest how fathers and men are treated in family court. It received no news coverage outside of local media.

      •  Equality for fathers (1+ / 0-)
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        Fathers are nothing more than a bank account for mothers in family court. My brother's experiences for 16 1/2 years of trying to be part of his kid's life when he's not married to the mother have been a nightmare. But they've never failed to collect the child support that the kid's mother is living on herself while the kid goes to a boarding school she chose and my brother pays for. Because it is perfectly acceptable in the eyes of a family court judge for a father to document that he pays for his teenager's room and board, clothing, cell phone, school supplies, transportation to and from school, and all incidental expenses and still be required to pay nearly $1000 a month child support to the mother who doesn't even have the child under her roof.

        Something needs changed. But saying so is an affront to feminism.

  •  Hurrah for fathers. Oh, except for ... (2+ / 0-)
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    ... gay ones. We're still wrestling over that one, aren't we Mr. President? Is it healthy for the kids of gay couples if their fathers don't have civil rights?

    So when you say you offer men who want to be good fathers a little extra support ... you mean some fathers. You don't mean those pesky ones who keep asking for equality.

    Tchah.

  •  Kids appreciate a father who helps them with (7+ / 0-)

    their homework and cooks dinner with them as much as they appreciate going to the bowling alley or ballpark. Doing anything with your dad is great. It doesn't take a fun event. I wonder why it is that dad activities are always actual activities, and mom activities are just the everyday things like ferrying kids around and cleaning up after them?

    When I was a kid, my dad didn't have very much money. But I enjoyed every single moment I got to spend with him, whether he was driving us to school or driving us to the zoo.

    Recall Rick Snyder!
    "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes."

    by terra on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:51:06 AM PDT

  •  Your kids are lucky to have you for a dad (5+ / 0-)

    Mr. President.

  •  The bittersweet aspect of President Obama (1+ / 0-)
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    is that he seems to be completely aware of how awful and damaging his commitment to, for example, useless foreign wars and watching the destruction of the American middle class is.

    The two things Teabaggers hate most are: being called racists; and black people.

    by Punditus Maximus on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:53:15 AM PDT

  •  This site never fails to crack me up. (17+ / 0-)

    President Obama makes -- to those in the reality-based world, anyway -- an innocuous Father's Day address and catches hell from some of you folks.

    Seriously, folks, what the fuck? We get it. You don't like the guy. Whatever. You're so damn boring and repetitive.

    •  try to imagine (4+ / 0-)

      the despair a lot of us are in.  The house is on fire.  You want the fire brigade rushing in, not Ned Flanders chatting.

      "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

      by KibbutzAmiad on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:57:29 AM PDT

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      •  Now he's Ned Flanders? Really? (12+ / 0-)

        My wife recently lost her job, okay? We know firsthand that not everything's perfect.

        Now, do you really think the president doesn't want the unemployment rate to go down? I'm guessing he does.

        I'm also guessing he's doing everything in his power to make it so.

        But tomorrow is Father's Day, so today the president gave an appropriate Father's Day address, stressing the importance of fathers and families, which is the foundation of our society.

        Secondly, you've forgotten that this is "No Drama" Obama. The fire brigade he ain't. He's not going to turn into a screaming ninny to satisfy that part of the population that wants theatrics.

        Also, I'd like to point out that if we didn't have his steady hand at the helm, we'd probably be suffering a full-on depression right now.

        •  he is not (2+ / 0-)
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          what is needed for such a time as this.  And it's unrealistic to expect that it won't be noted.

          HE told us to hold him accountable.  So we are.

          I'm sorry but I do not see his "steady hand" at the helm.  Nor do millions of others.  And I suspect we are in a full on depression right now.

          It's not that what he said today was awful.  It's just not appropriate given the level of intense crisis and suffering going on.

          "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

          by KibbutzAmiad on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:13:10 AM PDT

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          •  Do you even know what "depression" means? (4+ / 0-)

            A recession is two quarters of negative growth.

            You'll see on this link that GDP has gone up every quarter President Obama's been in office since the third quarter of '09.

            http://www.bullfax.com/...

            We are not in a recession. We are certainly not in a depression.

            Feel free to dislike the president all you want; just occasionally support your position with an actual fact.

            •  Yes and (2+ / 0-)
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              I also know the numbers are reported wrongly.  I did go to college and everything.  And studied economics.  I know the definitions.

              I know it comforts you to think I dislike Obama.  I don't.  I am NOT a Democrat.  I vote for Democrats because it's prudent political strategy.  I did not expect him to be a socialist.  I also did not expect him to be quite the corporatist he has proven to be, but am not shocked.

              However - I am with OFA and am talking to many many people who voted for him last time who won't this time.  And I know why.  He needs to address it if he is going to win.  We are in a global economic disaster, and an ecological one as well.  And we need leadership that addresses it, loudly.

              "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

              by KibbutzAmiad on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:40:53 AM PDT

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              •  And please explain exactly how NOT voting for (0+ / 0-)

                him and a full slate of Dems next year is going to make things better.  

                The ONLY way to make things better is to elect more Dems.  The Republicans are proving every day that the only thing they care about is robbing the poor and passing the loot to their paymasters.  The Republicans simply do not care about anything else.  Except uteri, of course.  

                If you really are with OFA is sounds like you want to sabotage from within.  I can just imagine the conversations you're having with "people who voted for him last time who won't this time".  

                We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. B. Franklin

                by Observerinvancouver on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 12:47:11 PM PDT

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                •  It's absolutely essential. (0+ / 0-)

                  The only way to make things better is to start a movement.  At the moment it doesn't matter whether Dems or Rethugs are in power, we get the same results, on the critical economic and environmental issues at least.  Andrew Cuomo is another example.  Obama's actually worse than he is, though, because Cuomo's helpful on "equal rights" issues, and Obama isn't.

                  Now, the Democratic Party may be the vehicle for such a movement, but only if we kick out the people who keep acting like Republicans.  I'm voting almost straight party-line Democrat because I've got good local Democrats, a good Assemblywoman, hopefully a good State Senate candidate, the Governor's not on the ballot this year, and my House member is good... but for Senate and President, I have jackasses.  And it's not helpful; they're trashing the brand and trashing the movement.  We need something else.  Primary opponents would be best, but at high levels they seem to be very expensive.

                  Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

                  by neroden on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 04:40:41 PM PDT

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      •  First World problems, I know. (2+ / 0-)

        I was unemployed for 60 weeks myself, and made only $453 a week before taxes on unemployment.

        I'd be despondent because this country voted for the economic situation were in, and then took away the power to alleviate it, except that I had spent time as an overseas volunteer here.

        •  I am seeing (2+ / 0-)
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          plenty of developing world issues right here in the US.  And I don't think it's going to sell by saying "We're better than Somalia".  

          It's not just first world problems.  It's hunger.  It's lack of access to health care.  It's homelessness.  It's mental illness untreated.  Human despair is human despair.  

          "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

          by KibbutzAmiad on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:24:09 AM PDT

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    •  I know. The sad part is that the average kossac is (7+ / 0-)

      an educated adult probably above age 40. Little tantrums being thrown over the president giving a fathers day address?  They have the urge to express their displeasure at the president anywhere. Talk about adults with no boundaries.

      •  that's not (3+ / 0-)
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        what it is.  If anyone is being inappropriate in this equation, it's the person who has the power and is not using it to alleviate the misery, while providing bromides....

        "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

        by KibbutzAmiad on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:09:14 AM PDT

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        •  You can repeat yourself a million times but (7+ / 0-)

          a reasonable  person should  know that if you have nothing nice to say in a thread like this one. Sut up. There are 20 other diaries on the rec list agreeing with you. Why not let those of us who want to partake of this important fathers day message recieve it without adults falling over themselves? You dont like the guy? Guess what.....85% of progressives and half the country like and respect him enough to want to hear him talk about his children!.

          •  Telling me (2+ / 0-)
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            to shut up is not really the answer here.  You are being tone deaf on this.  And the issue isn't liking or not liking Obama, I'm a socialist.  I never expected him to be James Connolly.  But he's making it damn hard to campaign for him or other Democrats right now and that is an issue for me because I do a lot of that.  

            "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

            by KibbutzAmiad on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:27:48 AM PDT

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            •  Hey, I am a progressive. I will campaign for him, (1+ / 0-)
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              give him money and vote for him. So will millions of other progressives.I also want to listen to his fathers day message without  listening to adults repeat the same negative things over and over and over. It's like listening to fox news. It annoys you to a point where you want to break the TV.

              •  I appreciate that (2+ / 0-)
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                but can you understand that these are some desperate times here?  Obama is making it incredibly hard to sell him.  I'm facing people who voted for him in his senate race and in 2008 who will NOT vote for him today because they do not perceive him as "getting it".  It would help - a lot - if he'd toss a bone our way; mention how he is going to fight like hell for a jobs program for all those fathers struggling to find work....it would not have cost him anything to toss that in.

                This is not the official White House site.  Things posted here can be debated.  I have not name called, I have not been rude.  I've been around this site for ages and don't think I've ever done anything inappropriate.  I'm telling you what an awful lot of people are thinking.  

                "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

                by KibbutzAmiad on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:44:24 AM PDT

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                •  He's hopeless. (0+ / 0-)

                  People have been yelling at Obama that he needs to "get it", telling him what he doesn't get, telling him he needs to throw an economic bone....

                  We got happy talk about how he had "saved the economy" in 2010.  Guaranteed election losses followed.

                  If he didn't wake up after that, he is never going to wake up. Cut him loose, he's a liability.

                  Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

                  by neroden on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 04:42:19 PM PDT

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              •  Then perhaps this in the link you need: (1+ / 0-)
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                http://www.whitehouse.gov/

                .I also want to listen to his fathers day message without  listening to adults repeat the same negative things over and over and over.

                To every millionaire who decries they don't want their grandchildren paying for the deficit, I say: PAY MORE TAXES NOW and your grandkids won't have a deficit burden.

                by gooderservice on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:59:47 AM PDT

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              •  So.... (1+ / 0-)
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                You listen to Fox News enough to hear what they say over and over and over?

                Get a clue, doroma.

                -- **Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong.**

                by r2did2 on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 01:01:21 PM PDT

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            •  Riiiiiight! I can just imagine the type of (0+ / 0-)

              campaigning you're doing for him!

              Where's your superior alternative to campaigning for him and the Dems?  I just can't imagine how your Debbie Downer message is going to make things better.  Stop looking at the trees and pay attention to the forest fire.

              We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. B. Franklin

              by Observerinvancouver on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 12:51:55 PM PDT

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              •  Look at the forest fire yourself. (0+ / 0-)

                National elections have become a distraction.

                Superior alternative is organizing grassroots movements, some of which will probably have to do illegal things -- anti-foreclosure societies, unions, etc. -- and if I was any good at it I'd be doing it.  Van Jones is not only doing it, he's trying to get the existing ones aligned together.  Good for him.

                Superior alternative is working in local elections to create strong local democratic progressive parties which can operate strong local governments, then working up to the state level.

                There are other superior alternatives than campaigning for the Republican-in-Chief.

                Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

                by neroden on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 04:45:19 PM PDT

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            •  Here and elsewhere (0+ / 0-)

              Proclaiming to be a socialist isn't going to get ya any kudos on any blog or site except some socialist/communist site.

              DKos doesn't have many folks that favor socialism or socialist beliefs.  Obama is NOT a socialist or a Marxist etc....despite what the right wants to present him as.

              So, maybe you should go to blogs/sites that favor socialism and communism in America.  From what I've seen in my many months here, this isn't a site/blog like that.

              -- **Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong.**

              by r2did2 on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 12:56:49 PM PDT

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              •  Social Democracy is very popular. (0+ / 0-)

                Do you know the difference between Socialism and Communism?  I don't think so.  Try asking Bernie Sanders, Socialist and Social Democrat, (but emphatically not Communist or Marxist).

                Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

                by neroden on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 04:46:10 PM PDT

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                •  Gee...now where's that Google site? (0+ / 0-)

                  Duh.

                  Don't be condescending, neroden.  That doesn't speak to my post...you appear to just be someone who wants to be argumentative.

                  -- **Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong.**

                  by r2did2 on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 05:57:26 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

  •  reading these (0+ / 0-)

    comments is interesting.  I think the problem is that listening to Obama talk about anything other than the jobs crisis, etc. and the horrific situation so many of us are in is like being at the oncologist's and trying to make small talk while you are staring at bleak scan results.  It's not that what is being said is wrong or awful, it's just - irrelevant and the context makes it feel inappropriate.

    "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

    by KibbutzAmiad on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 08:56:23 AM PDT

  •  Not even a message about father's (11+ / 0-)

    is left alone.

    This place effing sucks sometimes.

    May the road rise up to meet you. May the wind be always at your back.

    by GlowNZ on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:05:33 AM PDT

    •  Sometimes???? (4+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
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      One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision -- Bertrand Russell

      by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:11:44 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  This place doesn't suck. People suck. (4+ / 1-)

      It's fathers day, for chrissake.

      Give it a rest for one day, okay?

      I'm sure Obama will do something to hurt your fee fees tomorrow.

      •  I'm trying (1+ / 0-)
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        to talk to people in my community for OFA about Obama.  And they feel he's out of touch and has a tin ear and they gave him a chance and plan to "give someone else" a chance in 2012.  He's not making this stuff any easier by avoiding the elephant in the room.

        Give me a break.  I volunteered for him and raised money for him as a senatorial candidate and a presidential candidate. But people are freaking out over their miserable situations right now and Obama and the administration is NOT helping matters by their silence on an awful lot of issues.  As I said, this message was perfectly nice and I'm sure he's a great dad.  I marched with him and his whole family in the Wheaton 4th of July parade in 2004.  It was his daughter's birthday and he obviously loved his kids.

        But misdirected anger is not going to change what needs to be changed here - and someone needs to convince Obama that regardless of what the GOP will or won't pass, he needs to convince working people that he's fully aware of what needs done, that people are in despair, and golf shots with Boehner and nice messages just aren't sufficient in the absence of what NEEDS said - that's the issue.  It's what he's NOT saying.

        "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

        by KibbutzAmiad on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:20:05 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  HRed for fee fees (0+ / 0-)

        You're being part of the problem.

        Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

        by neroden on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 04:46:41 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  It's disgusting! This site is infested with some (3+ / 0-)

      the most "sick" people I have ever seen. Progressives should be the cool guys. what happened? We are fucking giving wingnuts a run for their money in the nastiness department.

      •  As I posted upthread (1+ / 0-)
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        How is this criticism of the president's father's day addres any different from the far right going after Michelle Obama's program to eat healthy and exercise? A father's day message should be as unobjectionable as it gets... but the reflex negativity and hatred  here means that it is actually controversial.  I can hardly believe it.  Except I do.  The more time I spend here, the more I realize I really am not in solidarity with "this" version of progressive values.  There ARE several great posters/diarists though, and that's the only reason I keep coming back (like a moth to the flame).

        •  "I'll help fathers by being condescending" (0+ / 0-)

          is what the message amounts to, unfortunately.   No substantive help is involved.

          Do you begin to see the problem?  When people need actual help, giving them platitudes is condescending and offensive, and that's how Obama is coming across.

          Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

          by neroden on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 04:47:49 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  No, I am sorry (0+ / 0-)

             ... but this is just ludicrous.  The Father's Day message was just a message.  It is not a policy aimed at assuaging the ire of the permanently disgruntled.     There are serious issues facing this country and the president and Democrats are trying to address those issues with no help from the GOP who would like to cut spending and drive us into another depression, which would suit their agenda anyway.  Meanwhile, we have real people -- real fathers (and mothers) out of work and needing to take care of the basics of life for their kids.  That is the reality and the president acknowledged that reality, in the context of a wider message of the need for fathers to spend quality time with their kids.  How anyone twists that into it being "offensive" is beyond me.  

    •  Nope... (0+ / 0-)

      they cannot stop.  It is almost pathological.

  •  Can't wait (1+ / 0-)
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    for the redumlican rebuttal.  "Fathers are what got us into this mess, for the Executive to support fatherhood... why, that's just treason!  Muslims have fathers! Etc...etc"

  •  Nothing like a Mom & Apple Pie (2+ / 0-)
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    speech to really make everything better.

    As a hardcore Democrat, Obama has shaken my faith. Imagine what he's done for independents.

    by Johnathan Ivan on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:16:10 AM PDT

  •  The message for Fathers is appropriate (3+ / 0-)
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    KibbutzAmiad, gooderservice, neroden

    and very inspring but I also agree, nothing kills a Dad's
    ability to Father more than the feeling of not being able to provide.  The best Fathers Day present a Dad could get this Fathers day is a job so a paycheck could allow him to be the Father he wants to be.  Keep working on it Mr, President.  Fathers of working familes are in a bind.  

    We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it !

    by Vetwife on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 09:39:28 AM PDT

  •  Is there anyone here that disagrees (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    neroden

    that "fatherhood" has taken a huge turn for the worse in our society?  Not sure how to correct that...but, truth is, many pregnancies are achieved without a father being there and in many cases without a father being truly known.

    In my opinion, this is just more evidence that "Planned Parenthood" services is needed.  Yet, the repubs want to eliminate funding for that service for many of our citizens that is just SOOO important.

    -- **Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong.**

    by r2did2 on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 12:34:27 PM PDT

  •  Whatever you think about Obama, (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    neroden

    he does at least appear to be a good father and family man.  This must give pause to all the "values voters" who completely overlooked Ronald Reagan's deficiencies in this area.  

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