Okay I am in a spot and I need some help. I am in a huge knockdown drag out, name calling fight with someone I've considered and still consider a friend for years here at the Great Orange Satan. And I hate it.
So I am asking the powers that be here, what is the policy on ownership of tags? If there is a diary calling out Angry Gays or Black Kos or Sunday Bread (all of which are groups here at Daily Kos) can the people in that group edit the tag?
Yeah, I know, it is a real bullshit pie fight I find myself in and this is a piece of shit meta diary about it, but I'd like to get it resolved. My argument is that while you own the group name and can control its membership, no one owns a tag. The tags are not there for the groups but to help with searches. To remove the tag of your group because you don't like the content of the diary is not allowed.
Here is what is says about changing tags in the FAQ
Note: As of September, 2007, the Daily Kos tag guidelines have changed. While all of the above guidelines are still recognized as "best practices" and are strongly recommended, the editing or deleting or existing tags is to be limited to the correction of obvious typos or malformed tags, and the deletion of insulting or derogatory tags. It is understood that this might lessen the utility of tags as a research tool, but the administrators felt the trade-off in terms of user freedom and the avoidance of tag deletion "wars" was worth it.
The new tag guidelines are as follows:
Always err in favor of adding new tags, rather than deleting or modifying existing tags. Some folks have expressed concerns about the size of the tag database. In terms of server strain, we can assure you, there is no need to worry. (The tag db is comparatively very small.)
Tags should generally only be modified when you see misspellings (eg, Gorge W. Bush) or obvious ambiguities (eg, George Bush instead of George W. Bush, to distinguish son from father). If an ambiguity is not clear-cut, please add a new tag rather than modify an existing one.
If a diarist chooses a particular tag that might be different from what you've chosen (say, "bellwether state" instead of "swing state"), please respect the diarist's choice, even if your preferred tag is in wider use. Feel free to add your suggested tag as well - just don't modify or delete the diarist's tags.
Tags should generally only be deleted if they contain abusive language (eg, "this diary sucks," "sh*t diary", etc.). We emphasize in the strongest of terms that these kinds of tags are completely unacceptable. The use of abusive language in tags will be treated as a bannable offense.
If you see a tag that seems to be completely out of place, please post a comment asking for clarification (there might be a good reason for it) rather than deleting it.
Don't use the "troll diary" tag, or any variant thereof, when you think a diary is trollish. Tags are designed to help folks search for information. There isn't a need to be able to search for alleged "troll diaries" - the administrators have many tools at our disposal to find trolls, and this one is not necessary. It also creates needless flamewars and thread hijackings when people disagree over whether a particular diary is, in fact, a troll diary. (Obviously, if a diary is discussing the issue of troll diaries, then this tag might be appropriate.)
Tag abuse (changing the tags in a diary to express your editorial opinion of the diary) is a bannable offense.
First, and most importantly, you need to know that tag abuse is a bannable offense. If an administrator sees you've engaged in tag abuse, you will be formally warned. Repeat abuses can result in banning at any time without a follow-up warning. This diary should be taken as a warning in itself - now that we are unequivocally on the record about this, we will be more willing to take action against tag abusers the first time we see it. So do not express your dislike of a diary or diarist in tags. Reserve that for the comments. Tag abuse includes deletion of tags in order to replace them with "troll diary."
The other side of the arguement is that groups like Angry Gays or Frustrati own the name and the tag since they are the same. I am at a loss as to why this would be, but that is what my friend (hopefully still in the present tense) is saying.
So how about it Marcos? Or any of the Admins? What is the scoop here? After all we all have much better things to focus on and fight about.
The floor is yours
(Oh, and lets all try to be civil to each other about this, me included)