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As my nom de blog indicates, I was very shaken by the SCOTUS decision in Bush v Gore. I was a died in the wool Gore-ite until this week.

I am tired. Tired of the 24 hour meme promotion of Obama, disappointment and failure. Tired of people I once admired--Gore, Jon Stewart, Matt Damon--obligingly parrot the right wing framing of Obama and "disappointment".

Unfortunately, when I hear the sad, head shaking "disappointed", all I can hear is patronizing dog whistle. Maybe it is because I'm an affirmative action baby and I am overly sensitive to to whites expressing 'disappointment' in minorities.

I cringed when Chris Wallace asked Jon Stewart whether he was 'disappointed' with Obama. It was like Wallace was saying, "Hey, I know you supported him, but you are still a white guy--aren't you disappointed?" No matter how big a hash W made of the economy, 2 wars, and the debt, you never heard these words slip through the lips of conservatives or liberals.

Gore says Obama has not used the "bully pulpit" to push climate change. Sorry, Mr Vice President, but you try fighting 2 wars, preventing a second Great Depression, with a dedicated 24 hour "news" organization and a solidly obstructive GOP and see how far you get with a bully pulpit!

For Obama, there has been no bully pulpit. There was a time when the president spoke, it was big news: the president commanded the attention of the media. This is the 21st century and the multiple platforms that the public has available to access information diminishes the bully pulpit. With a lazy mass media in search of the latest sensationalized non event, a fact spouting, 'cool', 'professorial' president doesn't have a chance. Instead he has had to contend with birth certificates, Tea Partiers, and Congressional penises.

I do not agree with President Obama on everything. But I am less disappointed in him than I was in Bill Clinton. I don't believe he is a failure because he has not accomplished all the expectations and hopes his election engendered. Had he promised less, would you be less disappointed?

Barack Obama has been a different kind of president: despite inheriting a mess, a dysfunctional Congress, and everything else, he has pushed the ball further down the field than the last two Democratic president. Gay rights, health care, civil rights, the list goes on. Maybe the professional left can afford to call this failure, but those of us who live in the real world know that constructive change takes time and patience. I'm proud of my president and I'm all IN.

Sorry, Mr. Gore but I am disappointed in you.

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    •  Yep. nt (9+ / 0-)

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 07:36:01 PM PDT

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      •  No, Gooserock (11+ / 0-)

        Perhaps my meaning is not clear. The expression of "disappointment" by these people I feel is patronizing. Disagree with his policies, what he has or has not done. But this tut tut tutting comes off as Father Knows Best.

        I have never heard anyone express "disappointment" in a president before. And like I said, maybe it's me as a AA baby who has heard and seen this act before. I've heard too many high profile liberals embrace this framing. And I'm not sure why.  Particularly when Wallace asked Stewart, I had a physical reaction to it. It was like he was saying "but you are still one of us, right?"

        We are not to goose step (oops!) to Obama, but I do think that there are times that the "disappointment" and "failure" that I see coming from the left is harsher that I remember in the past.

        Never underestimate the ability of the Right to over reach.

        by never forget 2000 on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:14:41 PM PDT

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        •  asdf (8+ / 0-)
          I have never heard anyone express "disappointment" in a president before.

          Really?

        •  Really? (6+ / 0-)
          I have never heard anyone express "disappointment" in a president before.

          Well, you obviously weren't aware of the gut wrenching disappointment gay people felt when President Clinton signed off on DOMA. He didn't have to sign it - he could just have let it become law. But that adulterous cad went ahead with a flourish and stabbed some of his strongest supporters in the back. And we were very vocal about our disappointment. Many of us have never forgiven him.

          Just another faggity fag socialist fuckstick homosinner!

          by Ian S on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:40:03 PM PDT

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        •  There's something to what you say, (4+ / 0-)

          and some of it involves the judging of the only AA President by the white (for a while yet) majority, but the simple truth is that ideologues will never be satisfied unless and until their agenda is enacted, and woe be unto s/he who gets elected with the ideologues support and doesn't deliver. In short, he'd be getting the same crap if both his parents had been white.
          I'm about an -8.00, -8.00 on all those socio-political orientation scales folks like to flaunt in their sig lines, most of the time I can't figure out why, but a long time ago I learned that everybody else wasn't yet where I am, and learned to settle for the best that I could get - even if that's never quite happened.
          I've learned that my politics are at best only informed by my ideology; ideological purity is for folks who are at heart fundamentally un and anti democratic. They have no doubt that imposing their notions on others is the right thing to do.

          Cornplanter, can you swim? Peter LaFarge

          by DaNang65 on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:42:22 PM PDT

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        •  this is interesting (4+ / 0-)
          I have never heard anyone express "disappointment" in a president before.

          I guess you never came to my house during the Clinton years. Or the Reagan years. Or either of the Bush years.

          Out of curiosity, were you old enough and tuned in to politics during the Clinton years? Your comment would make sense if the answer to one of those was "no."

          But really, many people of the stripe you see around here were deeply disappointed in Clinton. And outspoken about it. I was so disgusted I couldn't vote for him a second time (I live in a state where my vote for prez doesn't matter).

          Here I am! I'm up here! Where are you? - the Red-eyed Vireo

          by mightymouse on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 09:33:09 PM PDT

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        •  I think you're right on target. (4+ / 0-)

          I think the Republican Plutocrat Spinmeisters have come up with "disappointment" as an emotional meme-virus, to try to eviscerate "hope" which was Obama's emotional meme-virus in 2008.

          We need a counter-meme, for which I would propose something like "determination" or "resoluteness" or something along those lines.

          It's all about the emotional narratives.  Emotional narratives determine outcomes.  We need to find the right meme for the emotional narrative that will bring victory in 2012.

          Otherwise the next Supreme Court justice will be chosen by Mitt Romney or someone equally loathsome.  

        •  Crap (7+ / 0-)

          I was disappointed with Johnson over the Viet Nam War

          I was disappointed with Nixon over Watergate

          I was disappointed with Gerry Ford for pardoning Nixon

          I was disappointed with Jimmy Carter for losing to Reagan

          I was disappointed with Reagan just for being elected, but maybe it was more that I was disappointed that people had actually elected an actor.  I was horrified at his lack of interest in dealing with AIDS and also at the huge increase in homeless people on the streets of New York during his presidency.

          I was disappointed with the first Bush mostly because I was tired of Reagan

          I was disappointed with Clinton because of the Lewinsky mess

          I was disappointed with the second Bush... he was so much more spectacularly bad than I even thought I would be on election night in 2000

          I don't think it's that unusual to be disappointed in the President - any President.  No one person can perform that job perfectly.  It's the nature of the job that you are going to disappoint a huge number of people with every decision you make.

          Frankly, I think that Mr. Gore, and the momentum he had built for doing something substantial about climate change has been pretty much marginalized by President Obama and I would be extremely surprised to discover that Mr. Gore wasn't disappointed.  

          You hear about crazy, but it's rarer than you think. -Jon Stewart 1/10/2011

          by lcork on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 10:10:54 PM PDT

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          •  Mr. Gore is not the climate change God (4+ / 0-)

            he put a film out , one that yes, raised awareness, but also made him lots and lots of money. I am disappointed in Mr. Gore for expressing dissappointment in this President for not doing enough for climate change. It is not like he was just sitting around the White House shooting hoops and not trying to make this a better world.
            I am also growing tired of the press labeling Afghanistan "Obama's war". I am a bit disappointed that our President doesn't use the bully pulpit to get out there and state the facts, to tell people what they need to be told. We all know the country is sick of war, and it is draining our treasury, but when this President was sworn into office the Afghanistan war was already entering it's  8th year, and the mission was failing, we were not succeeding and we had not caught or killed Bin Laden. While running he promised to committ more troops to Afghanistan so we could succeed, and he also promised to go after Bin Laden. When he committed the extra "surge" troops, he also promised to start bringing them home this July, and besides killing Bin Laden that is what he is doing.
            I am not in the least disappointed with this President, I think he has been the best President in my lifetime, (I will be 66 in December). That doesn't mean I don't have some issues with some of his policies, but I do understand that promising to do it all, and actually delivering with an opposition party who was not interested in moving the country forward, but rather interested in making this President fail is not an easy task. Having said that, he still accomplished much of what he promised, and faced the opposition with a tolerence that I have never seen before. . I will be voting for Barack Obama in 2012, and if they change the Constitution and he gets to run for a third term I would vote for him in 2016 too. When the majority of those in Congress get off the payrolls of large corporations, then we will have real climate change until then they will block every opportunity to effect that kind of change. The problem is not with this President, but with the Congress, nad that is who Mr. Gore should have targeted with his disappointment. Buth then again, Mr. Gore spent lots of time in Congress, and some of those under corporate control are his "good friends". Perhaps he should express his disappointment with them as well.

            •  My point was about (0+ / 0-)

              how disappointing Presidents can be and have been.  All of them.

              It's not a dog-whistle to say so about this President because it's not something that is unique to this President.  

              Apparently you're disappointed with the President yourself... except that you make a distinction between being "a bit disappointed" and being "not in the least disappointed"  I'm not sure how to interpret that, but if it works for you that's really a wonderful thing, I'm sure.  It certainly gives you the flexibility to argue both sides of the argument whenever you like, even in the same comment, although not in the same paragraph I notice.

              Personally, I think the President is doing the best he can, which is all anyone can really do.  Sometimes getting stuff done involves disappointing a certain percentage of the population.  That's true for all of us, not just the POTUS.  So to me, it's a little more weird when people claim not to be disappointed from time to time, or about anything at all.  I find myself wondering if they have been paying attention, because even your soul-mate is not going to be un-disappointing 100% of the time, and President Obama ran for POTUS, not Soul-Mate-In-Chief.

              I voted for the guy I thought would do the best job, not the guy I believed would do a perfect job.  Am I disappointed from time to time at the way he does his job, and the things he chooses to focus his time on?  Hell yeah.  Am I surprised by that?  Hell no.  It's pretty much what I expect, even from someone I voted for.  

              As for being the best President in my lifetime, we'll see.  He's not done with his term in office and I'm not dead yet.  There are a lot of interesting people for 2016, and I would be most interested in seeing what would come of a presidency of any number of great Democrats like

              Kirsten Gilibrand
              Cory Booker
              Van Jones
              Sheldon Whitehouse
              Russ Feingold
              Sherrod Brown
              Brian Schweitzer
              Andrew Cuomo

              among others.

              I think we have an incredible field of potential candidates, so there is no reason to fantasize over changing the term limitations for the President.  I would be more concerned with taking back the House and beefing up the number of Democrats in the Senate so that President Obama can govern in his second term like a guy who doesn't have to worry about being re-elected.  

              That's the beauty of term limits, assuming you don't have the kind of obstructionism from the legislative branch.  When you no longer have re-election hanging over your head, you can shoot for the moon.  I think that the people who are all worried about being disappointed, or worried that other people are expressing their disappointment in the President would be better served spending their time thinking about what they can do to help elect more and better Democrats to the House & Senate, so that President Obama can do more of what he went to Washington to do.

              You hear about crazy, but it's rarer than you think. -Jon Stewart 1/10/2011

              by lcork on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 09:54:53 AM PDT

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              •  My disappointment is not in this President, but (2+ / 0-)
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                the fact that when he gets criticism about this war, the war the media has now labeled "Obama's war", has lasted 10 years, I am disappointed that he doesn't come back and say, "yes, it has lasted 10 years but almost 8 of those years was before I was President, and I am trying to end it now, but doing it right." That is exactly what I would say, but I do understand I am not a diplomat or a Political Candidate, so he has to weigh his words carefully. Not real disappointment at all, just a poor use of words on my part.

                •  Bravo (0+ / 0-)

                  I love how you got the "I'm not disappointed, I am disappointed" worked into a single sentence.  You're still a little weak on the accepting that is really how you feel, but just embrace it.  You'll feel much better, I promise.

                  Life is full of people who don't quite live up to our expectations - starting with our parents and ourselves and including pretty much everyone we ever know or admire.  Nobody escapes either being disappointed or being disappointing, no matter how good they are and no matter how hard they try.  All we can do as human beings is understand and accept that and not get stuck in astonished outrage and feelings of betrayal when it inevitably happens. Because the reality is, if we didn't still admire and believe in them, we wouldn't be disappointed, we'd be done with them.

                  The only way the POTUS would always handle things the way you think they should be handled would be for you to be the POTUS, and even then, you would disappoint yourself by not being able to do all you feel you should be able to do.  Imagine what hopes and dreams President Obama had for his time in office, versus the reality he has to work with.  They're very different, I'm sure.  Just as all of our lives tend to be.

                  Rather than thinking about the huge debt of disappointment he's racked up with everyone who voted for him, I think it would be more constructive for those who wish he had accomplished more or differently to work on giving him better tools to work with - namely a majority in the House of Representatives and a super majority in the Senate.  Given an undivided government and a second term in office, I think we would see a lot more of what he talked about in his campaign.  Even then, don't expect that there won't be some disappointment.  The President, like all of us, is a human being not a super-hero.

                  You hear about crazy, but it's rarer than you think. -Jon Stewart 1/10/2011

                  by lcork on Mon Jun 27, 2011 at 06:41:16 AM PDT

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                  •  I think maybe disappointment is the wrong word (0+ / 0-)

                    here. I think it is a bit condescending to be disappointed in people. It is like you are saying, these are my expectations, and you didn't meet them. As if your expectations are all important. The more I think about it, I think frustration is a better word. I am at times frustrated that the President doesn't just tell folks, this is not his war, he didn't start it and it was going on for almost 8 years when he took office, because the last President badly managed it. Rather than fight the terrorists in Afghanistan/Pakistan, he (Bush) decided to use our resources to invade Iraq and turn that country upside down, he gave up on bringing Bin Laden to justice, and Obama didn't.
                    I hate that we are still in Afghanistan too, but it is not as easy to get out as it was to get in. We are dealing with so many variables over there, a corrupt government, a Nuclear Pakistan, and an unsettled nuclear Pakistan at that. I really beleive this President cares about removing our troops safely, he is not a heartless S.O.B. like Bush and Cheney who pretended to care, but looked at them as expendable. These wars drained our treasury, and Bush hid the expense of them. I just don't understand why the President is being so kind to the Bush administration, nor do I understand why anyone would have wanted to be President right after they left this country in such a mess. President Obama stepped up to the plate, I think he welcomed the challange, after the 2008 election the mood of the people was they wanted bi-partisan solutions to our problems. I think he beleived he could work on these solutions an bring our country together, that didn't happen, because from the day he was sworn in the opposition lead by Rush Limbaugh wanted him to fail, because they were afraid if he succeeded it would be years before the Republicans could grab back the White house. I am not one who thinks race played a primary role in this opposition, but some on the right used that too as a tool to defeat this President and his agenda. The whole situation makes me sick to my stomach. I beleive with all my heart that Barack Obama is a good man, a caring man, one who if given the opportunity will really make positive changes, the problem I see is that the system is too corrupt for a decent person to make changes. Just look at health care reform, who could be against insuring that all Americans had affordable health care? Who takes pleasure in knowing people who can not afford health care will die and die a miserable death, but there is a segement of the population that thinks TFB, I got mine so the hell with you if you can not get the same.. That is pathetic and makes me very sad to know people hate so much. Today, I am on Medicare, but while the HCR debate was  going on, I wasn't. I was in that age group that health insurance was through the roof, paying over $600. per month for health coverage, and also paying a co-pay. Finally we could no longer afford it, it is not as if I was a slacker and didn't contribute to the system, I did for many years, but the system let me down in order to allow insurance companies to make huge profits. Now that I have Medicare, I simply can not understand why everyone doesn't have it. I hardly use it, but the peace of mind it offers to know I have it if I need it is comforting. Everyone should have the same. I think with all the opposition this President got us the best deal he could, and there are people today that have health care that would not have had it if nothing at all was done. And for that he is being persecuted, not only by the right, but also by the left. That is just not right. No other President was able to accomplish even that, with the exception of Johnson and Medicare. So I will remain frustrated, not disappointed.

        •  well (0+ / 0-)

          so, now expressing disappointment is racist because it is too tut-tutting, and going the other direction and vehemently decrying Obama's bad policies is also racist.  So, what's left?

          What we find here is in fact a totally different dog-whistle that suggests than any criticism from white people must be racists, because, well, they are white.  There is a dog whistle in action here, but it isn't the one yyou are talking about.

          -7.79, -7.75 http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Gosh!

          by Mindful Nature on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 09:08:45 AM PDT

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    •  Yes. (6+ / 0-)

      Duh.

      Where have you been?

      Mayan culture was strong enough to save the Mayan people from Mayan civilization.

      by JesseCW on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 07:37:15 PM PDT

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    •  Keep ignoring what people are saying to you (10+ / 0-)

      He did not say disappointed in Obama was racist, he said he sees racism in a lot of the disappointment.  I'm not doubting there will be people who don't hear people like this diarist, I just hope you never need the services of the Black VoteTm some day.

      "I honor the place in you where Spirit lives I honor the place in you which is of Love, of Truth, of Light, of Peace, when you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, then we are One." Namaste friends!

      by Adept2u on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 07:41:26 PM PDT

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      •  Too nuanced (5+ / 0-)

        You need a yes or no answer.

        That's how I read it as well.

        Curious if they believe that any criticism, any at all, is based on racial biases rather than politics alone? From anyone, not just on Daily Kos? All of Newt's and The Donald's dog whistles just chit chat?

        But the binary answer seems to be so humorous and witty...

        Going to sleep. After a day of a small few raining on the NY parade and now another evening of liberals passing off this stuff as silly...

        Just another day...on Daily Kos....uh, I mean...in Paradise...

        Garrhgsfsafasd! or...where the heck is Lieber?

        by Hedwig on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:01:01 PM PDT

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      •  Frankly (0+ / 0-)

        you are right, this diary is about what the diary hears, not about what Al Gore or anyone else things.  And what I take from that is that this particular diarist is so prepared to misconstrue things as being racist that they smell whiffs of things that simply aren't there.  I believe that this is because the diarist has a fairly widespread racial bias that says that all white people are secretly (or not so secretl) racist and that this motivates nearly everything they do or say.

        So, yes, he sees a lot of racism, but that mostly tells me about his own preconceptions and biases.  I'm not doubting either that there will be people who don't want to hear people call this out, but there it is.  I find it a divisive slander on an entire political movement.  It goes a long way to alienate a significant block of the Democratic base.  Perhaps the best response here is, "I just hope you never need the services of the White Progressive Vote (tm) some day"

        -7.79, -7.75 http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Gosh!

        by Mindful Nature on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 09:14:05 AM PDT

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    •  Obama isn't fighting 2 wars (0+ / 0-)

      he is fighting six. Pakistan, Libya, Yemen and who know where the hell else the US has it's paw print.
      He isn't stopping the great depression much in my opinion. Not with his new jobs bill off shoring more jobs to S. Korea, Columbia.

      Why are we still paying for Congress's health insurance, their meals and all the other perks they get while they are gutting ours? They get all the perks while we get a pile of shit.

      by snoopydawg on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 07:55:10 AM PDT

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    •  "Disappointed' is a weasle (2+ / 0-)
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      word.

      I'm tired of the whining about 'disappointed" in Pres Obama.

      It's always sounds like a WHINE to me, since people don't want to speak out to the issue, it's like a 'Sigh, woe is me I'm disappointed'

      No, those who say it do not want to paint the President as a strong leader, which I do think he is, but he has a much different management style, not the 'red meat' type --but he's quite strong and effective.

      No the weasel word 'disappointed', sigh, reflects his style not understood nor liked by a few.

      Re-Elect President Barack Obama & RECALL GOP 2012

      by Wary on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 08:56:30 AM PDT

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      •  would you prefer (0+ / 0-)

        "completely disgusted"?  After all, a lot of the gentler language derivves from a desire not to be too harsh, but I am sure that some would be willing to oblige if you prefer that.

        -7.79, -7.75 http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Gosh!

        by Mindful Nature on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 09:15:04 AM PDT

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        •  How about 'I disagree' (0+ / 0-)

          Or I think he is wrong about. This word 'disappointment' is so global and so patronizing. As someone noted upthread, there has been something 'wanting' in every president. We disagree with a lot of the policies of previous presidents, but it is the framing of disappointment and failure that the right is pushing on liberals (I'm talking about where Damon, Mahrer and Stewart have been asked specifically whether they are disappointed).

          I'm disagree with Obama with how the mortgage crisis has been handled among other things. A lot of blacks are truly suffering now because of this economy and they would be justified in expressing outrage, anger and disappointment.

          I do not see racism in everyone who disagrees with Obama.

          Never underestimate the ability of the Right to over reach.

          by never forget 2000 on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 02:00:08 PM PDT

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  •  It's Easy for Bill Maher..... (6+ / 0-)

    Jon Stewart & Al Gore to sit in their air conditioned studio/radio stations & blast the President.  What have any of them done for me/us lately?

    Al's disappointed?  Give me a frigging break.  I'm still recovering from my disappointment when Al gave up the Presidency to the biggest dimwit on the face of the earth.  Of course, that's assuming Michelle Bachmann never gets her tea bagger self anywhere near the WH.

    Maher & Stewart hit it out of the ballpark on occasion.....but neither could handle the President's job on their best day on earth......or any other galaxy for that matter.  

  •  bar is set way too high (10+ / 0-)

    especially when a huge percentage won't work with you because they want you to fail.  They really hate this guy with a passion and everything he stands for....

  •  I suggest reading (8+ / 0-)

    this diary and the original article about Gore. Believing what the meida says is never a good idea.

    I was Rambo in the disco/ I was shootin' to the beat/ When they burned me in effigy My vacation was complete. Neil Young

    by Mike S on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 07:47:07 PM PDT

  •  Gore did not hammer on Obama (4+ / 0-)

    Please do not leave because of the way the msm played on Gore's words and phrases!
    I am just a snow white chick, 59 yrs old, living in a part of the world where Obama is referred to as a "n----r" at the local diners.  
    Out loud.   To "hell yeahs". (I have started cooking in my office to avoid this stuff.)
    And he is not as aggressive as I would wish about ending  torture, closing Gitmo, ending the surveillance of ordinary folks going about their lives, and protecting Soc. Sec. and Medicaire as I would wish, but he does so many things so right.  I admire him as much as anyone on earth for his heart and his mind, and I think his leadership skills will develop with a second term.  
    Please change your title and do not get yourself banned.
    If any of my criticisms of the president come across as racist, you must let me know.  
    If you leave, who will tell me?
    There are tons of kossacks who are still smarting about the health care debacle, and the looming debt ceiling vote that still, no matter what he winds up doing, will cast a vote for him against any Republican our there.
    I think we are all in accord, grudgingly or not, that he should be the one conducting the Afghanistan war, and not an oil field addicted Republican.
     

    Democrats are on the right side of history every time.

    by on the cusp on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 07:49:18 PM PDT

    •  so you're calling him a torturer? (3+ / 0-)
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      who spies on "ordinary folks"? and who isn't protecting Soc. Sec./Medicare?

      This is a big stumbling block for me. I don't know if he's not aggressive or if he is doing what he wants to do, but I suspect it's the latter. I think he's an extremely capable man, thus I see what he does or doesn't do as his choice.

      I also think that this is who he is. A second term will be no different.

      •  That's a pretty selective reading of the comment. (2+ / 0-)

        "(H)e is not as aggressive as I would wish about ending torture" somehow becomes "calling him a torturer". " (not as aggressive as I would wish) "protecting Soc. Sec. and Medicaire(sic)" becomes "isn't protecting Soc. Sec./Medicaire(sic)"
        A little nuance can be a good thing.

        Cornplanter, can you swim? Peter LaFarge

        by DaNang65 on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:23:17 PM PDT

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      •  The fact is, (6+ / 0-)

        and I am heartsick to have to say this, President Obama had a tortured child, now grown, prosecuted for war crimes, the first time it has happened since WWII. President Obama is not the only one responsible, but he is absolutely one of the ones responsible. I knew I was going to have to push him to get legal accountability for torture to happen, but I never thought he would prosecute a tortured child, now grown.

                            To be clear,
                               Heather

        Torture is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who is doing it to whom.

        by Chacounne on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:41:04 PM PDT

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      •  You didn't read my comment correctly. (0+ / 0-)

        You do, however, have a legitimate concern about his agression, or lack thereof.
        I do not know what he thinks, and I do not know his motives.
        I can see why you may have some reason to stay on on election day.
        I just think if you are facing a Bachmann presidency, you might give him the benefit of the doubt.
        I think second terms are the legacy terms, and he may decide he wants the history books to portray him as a man who developed his leadership and pushed hard for all of us.
        I just know he doesn't want to be the next Jimmie Carter.
        He wants more time, and I see know reason why he should not get it.  

        Democrats are on the right side of history every time.

        by on the cusp on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:53:33 PM PDT

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    •  Thank you OTC. (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Adept2u, on the cusp

      As I said, there have been no perfect presidents. You and I are old enough to remember the Big Dog and I was disappointed in his behavior. Racism, racist are words thrown around all to easily. FWIW, I don't see every criticism of Obama as racist, but I sometimes question what place this disappointment is coming from that it is magnified to some 'code'. I do think we play into the Right's narrative of failure by continuing to accept their framing and linguistics.

      Never underestimate the ability of the Right to over reach.

      by never forget 2000 on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:31:15 PM PDT

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      •  It was bound to happen. (0+ / 0-)

        He is the first Africa American president.  Everything he does or doesn't do is likely to be viewed as some statement on his racial make up.
        We, as a nation, have never had this to contend with.
        Big damn DUH.  
        Sometimes, we get it right, sometimes, we get it wrong.
        By the time we have our 3rd African American President, it will be no big deal.
        This is an amazing time to be alive, to shape our history.
        The racism needs to be seen, recorded, and always remembered.
        We are living in incredible times, nf2000.

        Democrats are on the right side of history every time.

        by on the cusp on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:59:43 PM PDT

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      •  Gore's article (0+ / 0-)

        I haven't read it, but I did read about it in the media. I heard enough dog whistles in the media rendition that I, a white woman originally from the South, dismissed it as one more in the litany.

        "There's nothing serious about a plan that claims to reduce the deficit by spending a trillion dollars on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires." - President Obama

        by fhcec on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 09:01:25 PM PDT

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  •  So.,,, (12+ / 0-)

    Now I'm a racist AND a cry baby over my missing pony because I think obama has been mediocre at best.

    Wonderful.

    Let us avoid reality as long as we can. Things are just better that way

  •  Al Gore praised Obama in the article others spun (8+ / 0-)

    In the same article that Gore critiqued President Obama he said this:

    President Obama included significant climate-friendly initiatives in the economic stimulus package he presented to Congress during his first month in office.

    With the skillful leadership of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and committee chairmen Henry Waxman and Ed Markey, he helped secure passage of a cap-and-trade measure in the House a few months later.

    He implemented historic improvements in fuel-efficiency standards for automobiles, and instructed the Environmental Protection Agency to move forward on the regulation of global-warming pollution under the Clean Air Act.

    He appointed many excellent men and women to key positions, and they, in turn, have made hundreds of changes in environmental and energy policy that have helped move the country forward slightly on the climate issue.

    During his first six months, he clearly articulated the link between environmental security, economic security and national security — making the case that a national commitment to renewable energy could simultaneously reduce unemployment, dependence on foreign oil and vulnerability to the disruption of oil markets dominated by the Persian Gulf reserves.

    And more recently, as the issue of long-term debt has forced discussion of new revenue, he proposed the elimination of unnecessary and expensive subsidies for oil and gas.

    Ignoring the praiseworthy part, in order to focus on conflict is part of a tiresome media trend:

    Al Gore’s new essay in Rolling Stone, about impending climate disasters, is mainly about the failure of the media to direct adequate attention to the issue, and to call out paid propagandists and discredited phony scientists.

    That’s where the essay starts, and what it covers in its first 5,000 words.

    The second part, less than half as long, and much more hedged in its judgment, is about the Obama Administration’s faltering approach on climate change. But of course the immediate press presentation on the essays has been all “OMG Gore attacks Obama!”

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/...

    “The only thing that happens in an instant is destruction... but everything else requires time." - First Lady Michelle Obama

    by FiredUpInCA on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:14:46 PM PDT

  •  While I agree with your sense of weariness, (5+ / 0-)

    Gore didn't really pile on Obama. Read Vyan's wrecklist diary on this.

    These are harsh times and Obama is a convenient lightning rod for many for many different reasons.

    In the real world away from the blogisthan, this is what is happening.

    $$$ Obama attracting more $mall donor$ $$$

    One bitter fact is two bit hacks populate the third rate fourth estate who are truly the fifth columnists. So, how did Obama piss you off today ?
    Call the media when they Lie

    by amk for obama on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:44:10 PM PDT

  •  so what's Obama done (3+ / 0-)

    about climate change and global warming other then give meaningless speeches that belie his administrations policies and agenda. Has he come out strongly for alternative non carbon energy, emission controls on cars  regulations on carbon burning huh? weatherization that no one can afford seems to be his big accomplishment that and drill baby drill. Like Hillary say's think of the bright side when the ice melts we can extract more grease to keep those SUV's a rolling.

    Jeebus, Gore is if anything too easy on this administration's joke of a environmental agenda. they  only talk about  racing to the top and winning a future that sounds like a freakin nightmare as far as the environment and the people who must live in it goes.  I'm not disappointed I'm pissed off and with good reason. He ought to fight for both the common good and the planet. Instead he does dirty backroom deals and  by partisan kabuki. Their burning up the world with wars for teh grease. He has power but chooses to use it for the owners of the place and unsustainable wealth creation.  

    •  What Gore said (4+ / 0-)
      So what's Obama done about climate change and global warming other then give meaningless speeches that belie his administrations policies and agenda. Has he come out strongly for alternative non carbon energy, emission controls on cars regulations on carbon burning huh?

      Here's what Al Gore has said he's done:

      President Obama included significant climate-friendly initiatives in the economic stimulus package he presented to Congress during his first month in office.
      With the skillful leadership of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and committee chairmen Henry Waxman and Ed Markey, he helped secure passage of a cap-and-trade measure in the House a few months later.

      He implemented historic improvements in fuel-efficiency standards for automobiles, and instructed the Environmental Protection Agency to move forward on the regulation of global-warming pollution under the Clean Air Act.

      He appointed many excellent men and women to key positions, and they, in turn, have made hundreds of changes in environmental and energy policy that have helped move the country forward slightly on the climate issue.

      During his first six months, he clearly articulated the link between environmental security, economic security and national security — making the case that a national commitment to renewable energy could simultaneously reduce unemployment, dependence on foreign oil and vulnerability to the disruption of oil markets dominated by the Persian Gulf reserves.

      And more recently, as the issue of long-term debt has forced discussion of new revenue, he proposed the elimination of unnecessary and expensive subsidies for oil and gas.

      “The only thing that happens in an instant is destruction... but everything else requires time." - First Lady Michelle Obama

      by FiredUpInCA on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 10:05:30 PM PDT

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      •  big whoop (0+ / 0-)

        considering what we are facing. Besides I do not agree that he has appointed excellent men and women to key positions.  He has articulated lots of stuff since he was elected but what he does is another matter. He just recently fought against lawsuits brought against corporations for destroying the environment. He cares not about anything except the Market and the global race to the top for corporate profit and dominance.  

  •  Of Course - (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mightymouse, erush1345

    You may be tired of the linking of "Obama" and "disappointent".
    That is a true statement describing your feelings.

    But many loyal Dems are, in fact, disappointed with Obama.
    That is also a true statement.

    To pretend it isn't so is ignoring the sentiments of others.
    And very politically naive.

  •  It's funny (1+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse

    I just got out of Vyan's diary and then I open this diary and boom!  Propaganda, it works great!

    No talk about climate change, no talk about media and the congress, nope, just why Gore sucks (because he attacked Obama).

    It really works.

    Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

    by yet another liberal on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:48:05 PM PDT

    •  I'm reading a different diary than you (0+ / 0-)

      There's this:

      It's funny. I just got out of Vyan's diary and then I open this diary and boom!  Propaganda, it works great!

      No talk about climate change, no talk about media and the congress, nope, just why Gore sucks (because he attacked Obama).

      It really works.

      And then there's what's in this diary:

      Al Gore’s new essay in Rolling Stone, about impending climate disasters, is mainly about the failure of the media to direct adequate attention to the issue, and to call out paid propagandists and discredited phony scientists.

      That’s where the essay starts, and what it covers in its first 5,000 words.

      The second part, less than half as long, and much more hedged in its judgment, is about the Obama Administration’s faltering approach on climate change. But of course the immediate press presentation on the essays has been all “OMG Gore attacks Obama!”

      http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/....

      by FiredUpInCA on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:14:46 PM PDT

      Did you read Gore's article? Gore's article in Rolling Stone, Climate of Denial, could hardly be considered a diatribe against Obama, although several (all?) news reports described it that way.

      by SoCalSal on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 07:31:39 PM PDT

      i appreciate the consistency of the traditional media. they spewed lies about gore when he was in and seeking elective office and they spew lies about him when he's retired from elective office.

      by Laurence Lewis on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 07:43:29 PM PDT

      Infotainment.....that's  Soooo much easier to twist to fit the sponsors'  agenda   than are the facts about...well...anything.  

      by Dixie Liberal on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 08:47:02 PM PDT

      I suggest reading this diary and the original article about Gore. Believing what the media says is never a good idea.

      by Mike S on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 07:47:07 PM PDT

      “The only thing that happens in an instant is destruction... but everything else requires time." - First Lady Michelle Obama

      by FiredUpInCA on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 09:59:29 PM PDT

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  •  W was worse than a disappointment (4+ / 0-)
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    jan4insight, G2geek, 2020adam, adrianrf

    He was a disaster. A heartless man. Kanye West was right.

    There was no point in calling Bush a "disappointment". He blew right past "disappointment" to some other place, and quickly.

  •  Well, I am disappointed by Obama (1+ / 0-)
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    adrianrf

    And I'll you why.
    Because at the end of Obama's first term as President we're involved in more foreign wars than we were even at the end of Bush's second term.

    Now, if you think that reeks of racism...

    We're shocked by a naked nipple, but not by naked aggression.

    by Lepanto on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 01:15:59 AM PDT

  •  I'll tell you who's going to be disappointed in (0+ / 0-)

    President Obama.

    The next generation, or the almost next generation, when climate change totally and thoroughly becomes an inescapable reality and people start asking -- what were we doing when CO2 accumulation was at 350 p/p/m?

    However, it was Obama and 40,000 other politicians. But, you know, he is the leader, and he's the president with 2 young dtrs.

  •  Another pity party to avoid. (n/t) (0+ / 0-)
  •  to the "so I'm a racist???" commenters: (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Hedwig

    yeah, maybe you are, since you took the diary to be talking about you.

    sooooo sick of that bullshit from 'progressives'.  you sound like breitbart when you ask that, all aggrieved.

    "Wake the town and tell the people!" ~Ewart Beckford, O.D.

    by mallyroyal on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 07:48:02 AM PDT

    •  Questions (0+ / 0-)

      1) How old are those who respond in such a way? Maybe it's not as much racial as generational?
      2) Did they ever take a history course that even had a cursory look at America circa 1950-1970?

      If I met someone and they felt the need to continually bring up that they aren't a racist, I'd start to wonder why they felt the need to repeat that...not in response to someone actually calling them that...but just during a completely non-confrontational moment.

      Probably be easier to just put that concept in a sig line...saves on typing...

      And, it's the extremes....that are more sarcastic than thoughtful (i.e. 'If I don't like the war, I'm a racist?' type comments...) They know it's crap and it's done, by some, to dismiss the idea that some might make racially insensitive comments.

      But, at this point, there's not much point in arguing with several...they won't get it. Would be sad, but at this point, I'm not. If they haven't gotten it by now...they probably won't ever get it.

      Policy not personality. Pretty easy.

      Garrhgsfsafasd! or...where the heck is Lieber?

      by Hedwig on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 09:48:00 AM PDT

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