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I was born and raised in IL. My 8 children were born there, too. It's been just shy of two years that we moved to Madison, WI, in order to live closer to the Children's Hospital that provides health care to the critically ill youngest members of the family, and also to get the benefit of living in one of the greatest communities in the world. It was a shocking blow to us when Scott Walker was elected governor and turned this state into the Tea Party ruled nightmare it has become in just six months.

This past week, the governor of our home state of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, was convicted on 17 counts that included perjury, corruption and other charges related to attempting to sell the Senate seat vacated by President Obama. He is the 4th IL governor of the past 7 to be sent to jail for felony charges, making our Land of Lincoln a bit of a joke to the rest of the world right now.

But here is what the rest of the world does not quite get about IL and our understanding with the politicians we keep electing. We know the truth about ALL politicians, and perhaps we are just way more honest with ourselves in Illinois than the rest of the nation is. We know they are corrupt. Or at least they become that way. We know that they take money from lobbyists and others and that they get benefits from their positions in government. I mean, really, who wants the job of President of the United States for a measly pay of $400,000 plus $50,000 in expenses, when CEOs in this country make an average of $9.25 million? Our expectations are, therefore, not set quite so high for politicians in IL. Sure, we must flush out the most dastardly of their crimes, mainly done by the opposing party pointing fingers at the crimes discovered by the felons in their enemy's party. But it explains why nothing ever changes, including the big family names, in Chicago and statewide politics.

As for Rod, while he was busy lining his personal pockets, he also took care of a lot of the poor people of the state. It was backing of AllKids that dramatically improved the health of the poorest and sickest children of our state, assuring that all kids, no matter where they came from, received health care. Contrast THAT with the supposedly CHRISTIAN WI Governor Scott Walker--who is cutting $466 million from the state's department of health services over the next two years. Oh, and NO public hearings on any of it either. Heaven forbid the public get to express their dismay about this and that the Republicans have to face the disabled and children that they are hurting and in some cases will actually KILL by doing this. It is a profound mystery to me how Republicans, the vast majority of whom profess to be Christians, can refuse to provide health care to the disabled, the poor and to children, whether citizens of this country or not. Do they actually READ their Bibles? I'm an atheist, but I've read their "good book" several times, and the words of Jesus were even printed in RED, for easy reference, yet they seem confused by his admonitions.

"Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?" (Matt 25:44)


Oh, what's that, Jesus? When we refused to give health care to the residents of our state? When we slashed funding? When we would not even hold hearings? I think Scott Walker and his cronies had better hope that I am right and there is no God, or they are in deep doo doo. If they are right and their Lord does show up, they are getting in a world of hurt according to this next verse Jesus spoke:

“But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.


“Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’ Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’


 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’ Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (Matt 25:31-46)


So, as much as I don't believe in God, I would love to see that happen. And I believe that Scott Walker would go into eternal punishment, while Rod Blagojevich would be welcomed into eternal life. Because, really, one did a lot more living like the Bible asked while admitting to being a liar and a crook, while the other claims to love the Lord and lives like someone Jesus would want nothing to do with. He even talked about these two guys.

“But what do you think? A man had two sons, and he came to the first and said, ‘Son, go work today in the vineyard.’ And he answered, ‘I will not’; but afterward he regretted it and went. The man came to the second and said the same thing; and he answered, ‘I will, sir’; but he did not go. Which of the two did the will of his father?” They *said, “The first.” Jesus *said to them, “Truly I say to you that the tax collectors and prostitutes will get into the kingdom of God before you. For John came to you in the way of righteousness and you did not believe him; but the tax collectors and prostitutes did believe him; and you, seeing this, did not even feel remorse afterward so as to believe him. (Matt 21:28-32)


Which governor do you think has a better chance of getting into heaven? I know what I think, though I don't believe in heaven. I'm working to help people here on earth. And that means working to recall Walker. I hope Christians remove the scales from their eyes and start doing the same, for the sake of our state, and for their souls also.

As to political reform, I am less optimistic.

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  •  No (10+ / 0-)

    the right one is going to prison.  The other one hasn't been convicted of a crime yet.

    May the road rise up to meet you. May the wind be always at your back.

    by GlowNZ on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 09:35:25 PM PDT

    •  Agreed (2+ / 0-)
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      Since when is it a crime for someone to have views that disagree with yours? Regardless of how crazy he can be, calling him a criminal is wrong.

      •  Walker IS a criminal; listen to his phone call (0+ / 0-)

        Scott Walker hasn't been prosecuted of anything YET, but I believe that given time, he will be. The phone call with the fake Koch brother shows that he even considered illegal activity, in the form of planting people in a peaceful crowd to incite violence. He also accepted an "invitation" to from that campaign donor during the same phone call, which IS illegal. Give the courts time...oh, he's a CROOK all right.
        List to call

    •  Walker's imminent political 'crimewave' (1+ / 0-)
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      Quick, call up supershyster Peter Fitzgerald!

      Blago convicted of imaginary crimes but Walker is
      committing real ones.
      Foul language on a wire-tapped phone, asking contributers for money, trying to make a political deal,
      and 'lying to the FBI'?
      No actual 'crime', just talk.

      You're infected with an insane level of  political correctness I've noticed.

      Scott Walker is hurting people doing unethical and probably illegal acts-- oh yeah he's committing some crimes.

      •  Illegal how? (5+ / 0-)
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        Please cite exactly what criminal offenses Walker is committing.

        And yes, trying to sell a Senate seat is a crime. Blago deserves to be in prison.

        •  Does selling off state assets (3+ / 0-)
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          without bids or oversight to campaign donors qualify?

          But put that aside.  His worst "crime", IMHO, is that he's ethically criminal of inhumanity:

          --  Taking from the poor and from workers and from children and from the disabled and from nursing home residents to give tax breaks to corporations and the wealthiest in this state.  

          --  Taking away peoples right to vote, too, so they will have no say in who gets elected to represent them.  

          --  And he considered the use of terrorism (no, I don't think that word is too strong) to make protestors look like hooligans.  

          --  He closed the Capitol (the People's House that we pay for) to anyone not a Republican supporter or lobbiest for a monied special interest.

          While I don't think any of those constitute things that can be criminally prosecuted, they certainly make him a fine target to get booted out of office along with his cronies.

          There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

          by Puddytat on Sun Jul 03, 2011 at 12:19:27 AM PDT

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        •  Okay, what was the price of the seat? (0+ / 0-)

          You're just parroting the media talking heads.

        •  See above response (0+ / 0-)

          Walker accepted invitation to vacation at Koch's. It is on audio. I posted the link for you.
          He also admitted that he considered planting persons of violent intent in a peaceful crowd.
          He's a crook.
          And how about responding to my REAL question--WHO IS THE BETTER CHRISTIAN? It ain't Scott Walker!!! He's Hell Bound!

  •  I'm sorry (1+ / 0-)
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    You do know that two wrongs don't make a right?  Didn't you learn this in Kindergarten?

    Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks...Tom Petty

    by Ellinorianne on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 09:44:26 PM PDT

  •  regardless (8+ / 0-)

    Regardless of how you feel about Governor Walker, he has committed no criminal acts (as defined by law) that anyone is aware of.  The same can not be said for Blago.

    •  Hitler never broke the law either (1+ / 0-)
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      When you control the law, it's easy to make any immoral unethical thing you do legal, including murder, rape, even genocide.

      I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.

      by Futuristic Dreamer on Sun Jul 03, 2011 at 04:05:47 PM PDT

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    •  Not the Point, and Not TRUE (0+ / 0-)

      He has not been CONVICTED--YET. He has committed crimes (see above comments.) And he will be in jail for them.
      My point, which not one of you has responded to is that ROD BLAGOJEVICH IS THE BETTER CHRISTIAN. Obviously this has touched a nerve since not a one of you has responded to this, and so many of you have jumped on this blog. You know it's true....
      What about all of YOU? Are you believers?

  •  Walker's Koch'd Up..... (3+ / 0-)
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    They know they're going to be recalled.....they don't care.  

    The goal for Republican Governors everywhere is to do as much damage as possible to the fabric of this country in the time they are allowed.

     They know the Koch Brothers will be waiting on the other side.  Scott Walker is set for life.  He'll have the most expensive lawyers the Koch boys can provide.  He'll never see a day in jail.

    He'll be vacationing at the Koch Brother's Vail Colorado estate w/ the other scumbags any day now.....without a single thought of the people, including the children, he stepped on in Wisconsin.  

    •  First of all (1+ / 0-)
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      he is not even being arrested, or even doing anything illegal, so I don't see why the Koch Brothers would need to defend him.

      Also, I doubt its the Republican's intention to do damage to America, after all, they aren't evil. Rather, I think they are misguided and as a byproduct are causing damage.

      •  I think plenty of R's are evil. And have evil (1+ / 0-)
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        intentions. I think that many of their followers are misguided and do not realize what the folks they follow actually have planned for this country.

        Wolverines and Badgers and Buckeyes - Oh My! Be Afraid Kochroaches. Be very afraid.

        by mrsgoo on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 10:05:52 PM PDT

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      •  dn14231 - I don't know how you can doubt the evil (3+ / 0-)
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        intentions of the Rs, trying to destroy Medicare/caid, generally restricting healthcare, gutting social service programs just so they can get and give more tax breaks for the rich. And I think these intentions prove their evilness.

        Out in the west Texas town of El Paso...

        by falina on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 10:12:03 PM PDT

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        •  Love the sig and your screen name! LOL! I did not (0+ / 0-)

          know who he was until I became a nascar fan in '79 and he was racing. Oh! That guy!! We lost him too soon.

          Wolverines and Badgers and Buckeyes - Oh My! Be Afraid Kochroaches. Be very afraid.

          by mrsgoo on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 10:21:30 PM PDT

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      •  This Is Not Walker's First Rodeo..... (4+ / 0-)
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        As Milwaukee City Manager in the fall of 2009, Walker illegally fired union security guards & replaced them w/ a private firm....Wackenhut security.  One of the Wackenhut supervisors had a criminal history including inappropriate sexual conduct.

        The union fought & won the case, & Walker had to hire back the fired union security guards w/ back pay.  At one point, Walker had both sets of security guards on the Wisconsin payroll, costing the city thousands of dollars.'

        Walker also passed his collective bargaining bill in the dead of night w/ less than 2 hours notice of a Conference Committee Meeting.  The Conference Call meetings per the Wisconsin state Constitution MUST be called w/ an advance notice of 24 hours unless an emergency.  There was no emergency.....other than the Koch boys mandate which Scotty followed to the tea bag.

        •  His position was (2+ / 0-)
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          Milwaukee County Executive.  The situation you described accurately.  His ambition was to turn over every part of Milwaukee County to the private sector or private contractors who, whoops, were major donors to his campaigns.

          I used to work for that clown.

          Unfortunately, that court decision came after his election as governor.   He also delayed a Milwaukee County budget report (due in September, 2010) until after the election because he knew the budget report would show that he drove the county into a shitpile of debt (which he left behind for his successor to deal with).

          There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

          by Puddytat on Sun Jul 03, 2011 at 12:23:49 AM PDT

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    •  I wouldn't be so sure of that. I have a saying... (2+ / 0-)
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      Two Snakes Fucking.

      The Koch's are using him and the rest of the R Gov's for their goal. The R Gov's are using them for the cash. Who is a gonna fuck who first? Or last?

      Wolverines and Badgers and Buckeyes - Oh My! Be Afraid Kochroaches. Be very afraid.

      by mrsgoo on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 09:59:52 PM PDT

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    •  Amen. (0+ / 0-)

      Do you notice how many Republicans are offended by the implication that Walker is a crook? But not of them has noticed all the Scripture I posted, or responded to it in any way, shape or form? But then they are great at ignoring the most glaring facts of what is set before them...

  •  I'm tipping and reccing this. I know the diarist (4+ / 0-)
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    is probably going to be given a world of hurt for it. My take on it is that she (I'm assuming kindakath is female), is trying to point out that while Blago sinned, Walkers sins are worse. And on that strict point alone, I have to agree.

    Now on the point that what Blago did was criminal under the law and Walker has not yet broken any laws, I have to agree with that also.

    I think the error here is in the diary title. Blago deserves to go to jail. Will he go to heaven? I don't know. Walker cannot go to jail, as yet he has committed no crime in our legal system. Should he go to hell for his actions? I don't know that either. But if each man has done nothing more than what we know about them, Walkers crimes against humanity are worse than Blago's IMHO.  

    Wolverines and Badgers and Buckeyes - Oh My! Be Afraid Kochroaches. Be very afraid.

    by mrsgoo on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 09:55:57 PM PDT

    •  Ditto here regarding T+R (3+ / 0-)
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      The point being made is about comparing the actions of both governors in terms of their jobs.  Yes, Blago was a self-serving schmuck, but Walker is virtually devastating the people of Wisconsin.

      There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

      by Puddytat on Sun Jul 03, 2011 at 12:26:05 AM PDT

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    •  Praise the Lord and Tip the Commenter! (0+ / 0-)

      Thanks Mrsgoo for being the first to "get" my tongue-in-cheek title...
      Obviously I am well aware that Blago was convicted, and will serve jail time along with more than half of the IL governors of my growing up years. And a whole lot of judges, legislators, lobbyists....well, you get it, it's a pretty corrupt system in IL.
      But my point is that the shining CHRISTIAN SCOTT WALKER is a contemptible maggot, and I believe is also a crook. Hopefully he will serve jail time. But even if he does not I feel he is a much WORSE HUMAN BEING than Rod Blagojevich.
      That is my point, and I believe you grasp it. Thank you. And, yes, I am female :)

  •  Nah, Blagojevich deserves it (4+ / 0-)

    Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.

    by chicago minx on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 09:59:56 PM PDT

  •  Rod Blagojevich got his... (5+ / 0-)

    ...Scott Walker will get his, too.

    And yes, we in Illinois know damn well that most of our politicians are as straight as $3 bills, but Rod Blagojevich went well below and beyond even that lofty standard.

    Comparing the two is like comparing rotten apples to rotten oranges. Both are best thrown away.

    •  You are exactly correct!! Both are best thrown (2+ / 0-)
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      away and while Mr. Rod will go quicker than Mr. Scott, I think the citizenry will enjoy watching Mr. Scott go. If I wasn't 3K miles away, I would make reservations to attend that party in Madison.

      Wolverines and Badgers and Buckeyes - Oh My! Be Afraid Kochroaches. Be very afraid.

      by mrsgoo on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 10:08:58 PM PDT

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  •  As other commenters have said or at least (3+ / 0-)
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    alluded to, the Wrong Governor isn't going to prison; the Wrong Number Of Governors aren't going to prison.  On the Biblical front, neither of them has all that much of a shot at redemption, as far as their public actions are concerned.  There isn't a redemptive 'get out of jail free' card for Bloggy just because he did the right thing for the least among us if it was just an acting bit while he tried to peddle Obama's Senate seat to the highest bidder...

    "In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upward mobile..." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    by Jack K on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 10:19:41 PM PDT

    •  Hm... (0+ / 0-)

      Actually he introduced the All Kids program early on in his governorship and attempted to introduce care for families also. The Obama seat happened at the very end, in his second term. I am not defending him though. He is clearly a criminal, I just wanted to clarify the timeline of events for you.

  •  Yeah, I have mixed feelings about Blago. (4+ / 0-)

    He was a crook, but a populist one.

    I can see the need to try him for his crimes (though I have some doubt that you can convict a man for a crime that never happened), but I can't hate him.

    Ideology is an excuse to ignore common sense.

    by Bush Bites on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 10:25:45 PM PDT

    •  I think it fell to intent. He was hell bent on (1+ / 0-)
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      doing it. If I walk into a bank, pull out a squirt pistol, demand money and somebody's grammy knocks me out with a swift whap to the head with her purse, I'm still guilty of attempted bank robbery.

      Wolverines and Badgers and Buckeyes - Oh My! Be Afraid Kochroaches. Be very afraid.

      by mrsgoo on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 10:31:27 PM PDT

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    •  That's a pretty low standard. (5+ / 0-)
      He was a crook, but a populist one.

      That's a shitty standard and a cheap way to let a criminal off the hook. We're better than that.

      And don't be fooled -- Rod Blagojevich was no populist. His one and only cause was himself. Any lasting good that comes from his time in office was, is, and shall be purely coincidental.

      And yes, the crime happened: he tried to sell the Senate seat for whatever he could get for himself. That's a crime, even here in Illinois. Everyone here knows that, except that lone juror from the first trial who made it clear she was never going to convict him regardless of the evidence. But for her, Rod would already be in prison.

      •  Good point. (3+ / 0-)
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        His one and only cause was himself.

        It seems like the majority of our politicians today adhere to that concept above all. Not only is it sad but what does it say about our political system if that is the only sort of individual it attracts?

        Wolverines and Badgers and Buckeyes - Oh My! Be Afraid Kochroaches. Be very afraid.

        by mrsgoo on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 10:49:43 PM PDT

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        •  AHA! (0+ / 0-)

          Yes, this is my point exactly...I do not think there is much hope of getting our politicians to behave. In any state. Even the good ones seem to quickly turn corrupt. And I cannot think of any way to change it. It is very, very depressing.

  •  Wouldn't it be easier (4+ / 0-)
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    and more efficient, just to hand them all their indictment as soon as they've taken the oath of office?

    "Tu vida es ahora" ~graffiti in Madrid's Puerta del Sol, May, 2011.

    by ActivistGuy on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 10:30:31 PM PDT

  •  You confuse politics with actual crimes. (3+ / 0-)
  •  You are forgetting that Walker's plans amount (1+ / 0-)
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    to conspiracy to commit mass murder, he should be tried by the Hague.

    May you live in interesting times--Chinese curse

    by oldcrow on Sat Jul 02, 2011 at 10:56:36 PM PDT

    •  Please tell me you're not serious. (3+ / 0-)
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      Conspiracy to commit mass murder?

      Please find for me any accepted legal definition of those terms that would apply to Scott Walker's actions.

      The man's an ass, and I'll be as glad as anyone when he's recalled out of office, but mass murder? That ridiculousness is the kind of thing that gives progressives a bad name.

      •  By denying hundreds of thousands adequate (0+ / 0-)

        medical care (Medicaide) he's going to kill hundreds, if not thousands, indirectly, to be sure, but they'll still be dead.

        May you live in interesting times--Chinese curse

        by oldcrow on Sun Jul 03, 2011 at 09:32:07 AM PDT

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  •  I am more than a bit disappointed that (2+ / 0-)
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    the diarist has not made any comments. I'll try to put a positive spin on this because the post was late that she probably retired for the evening. Am hoping to hear her pont of view tomorrow. And on that note, I'm going to hit the sack myself. Good Night Everybody!!

    Wolverines and Badgers and Buckeyes - Oh My! Be Afraid Kochroaches. Be very afraid.

    by mrsgoo on Sun Jul 03, 2011 at 01:02:17 AM PDT

    •  Amazing amount of comments... (0+ / 0-)

      I am not able to live by the computer, as I have 2 kids with a rare neuromuscular disease. Taking care of them consumes a huge chunk of my time. We do not qualify for any help from our state, however. We have lost our home, all of our savings, and struggle mightily to care for them. So I know a lot of people who ARE affected by the brutality of Walker and the cuts to health care. He IS KILLING CHILDREN believe me. That is why I believe he is a much bigger crook than Blago--Rod wanted money for himself, but still gave care to people. Scott Walker lines his pockets but cares not a whit for the poor and suffering. May that come back to him a thousandfold.

  •  Walker's anti-education agenda is religious (1+ / 0-)
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    Because Walker isn't just any sort of Christian.  He's specifically a Dominionist Christian - one of the crop that runs wild in the tea party and believes that the government allowing anyone to practice Christianity freely, just like any religion or unreligion, isn't good enough enough - they have to be able to have Christianity dominate the laws and dictate to to all non-Christians (and to all Christians who aren't as far on the right as they are) what it will "tolerate" about their religious views.

    This is why he's cutting public school budgets and pushing private school vouchers.  It moves education back into the domain of the church again and makes sure there aren't good avenues for education that are secular.

  •  Release some personal-use drug offenders... (0+ / 0-)

    and make some room.

    Then your "either/or" problem is solved.

    It seems curiosity has killed the cat that had my tongue.

    by Murphoney on Sun Jul 03, 2011 at 06:58:08 AM PDT

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