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FL-Sen: There must be a special on cat fud down at the supermarket, because there sure is a lot of it getting flung around in this digest. The latest installment: Recently departed Senate candidate (and embarrassing disgrace) Mike Haridopolos refused to endorse fellow Republican Adam Hasner, saying: “I can tell you one thing: I will not be supporting Adam Hasner for the Senate." Haridopolos also added the he hopes a “a principled and trusted conservative” gets into the race — i.e., there ain't any already running. Reminds me a bit of the Bill McCollum-Rick Scott fallout from last year's gubernatorial primary. Fun!

Meanwhile, on Twitter, Larry Sabato says it "[l]ooks like Rep. Vern Buchanan may run" for the GOP nomination. I don't recall Buchanan ever definitively ruling it out (correct me if I'm wrong?), and despite his baggage, I think he'd be a formidable primary candidate, given his strong conservative pedigree and immense personal wealth. And seeing how weak the Republican field is, he may be better than anything else they could offer for the general.

IN-Sen: Dick Lugar's campaign attacked that Club for Growth poll we mentioned the other day (the one showing him trailing Richard Mourdock 34-32 in the GOP primary), saying it "does not resemble anything we are seeing"... but refusing to provide any internals of their own.

MA-Sen: "It Gets Better" gets better. On Wednesday, we told you about an "It Gets Better" video that the entire Massachusetts congressional delegation participated in, except for Scott Brown. Well, as it turns out, of course Brown was invited. His excuse for not participating? "His main focus right now is on creating jobs and getting our economy back on track." So what legislation was Brown working on to further these goals? Increasing the penalty for harming seals.

In other MA-Sen news, on a recent radio show, Gov. Deval Patrick mentioned two names that haven't gotten a lot of play so far as potential Democratic candidates: former John Hancock CEO David D’Alessandro and Red Sox CEO Larry Lucchino. In an interview with the Boston Herald, D'Alessandro laughed about the idea but would not rule out a run.

MD-Sen, MD-02: State Delegate and conservative talk radio host Pat McDonough was last seen running against veteran Dem Dutch Ruppersberger for the 2nd CD House seat. He's now characterizing his campaign as "testing the waters," and says that if the district gets "gerrymandered, rendering it impossible to win," then he might instead challenge Sen. Ben Cardin.

MO-Sen: This is nice-n-scuzzy: David Farr, the chairman of electrical conglomerate Emerson, sent a letter to his employees (all 128,000 of them, I wonder?) encouraging them to attend a fundraiser for GOP Rep. Todd Akin. The suggested donation is $1,000, but if you give $5,000 you get invited to "an intimate dinner event" with Akin, Farr, and Farr's wife. No question that it's his right to do so, but I'd feel pretty uncomfortable if I ever got a note like that from my employer.

NM-Sen: Karl Rove will be headlining a fundraiser for ex-Rep. Heather Wilson next month, and as Matthew Reichbach points out, that ought to cast a spotlight back on the sordid business of the firing of U.S. Attorney David Iglesias, something both Rove and Wilson were intimately involved with — though they had contradictory self-serving stories to tell about the whole affair.

WA-Sen, WA-08: Mike Seely of the Seattle Weekly says he's heard "somewhat credible rumors" that GOP Rep. Dave Reichert might run for Senate… something he's never formally ruled out (and on account of that, these kinds of "rumors" have percolated now and again for some time). But Dem consultant Blair Butterworth says: "I've always thought that he was using the rumor as leverage on the redistricting commission so as not to make the 8th District more Democratic."


NE-Gov: That's getting an early start: Republican Lt. Gov. Rick Sheehy says he's planning to run in 2014, when current Gov. Dave Heineman will be term-limited out.


IL-08/IL-14: Priceless: GOP freshman Joe Walsh, a teabagger princeling who loves to lecture everyone else on fiscal responsibility, has been sued for over $100,000 in unpaid child support by his ex-wife. Terrific cover on the Chicago Sun-Times, too. (By the way, I'm considering Walsh to be in a Schrödinger’s Seat-type situation. I don't think he's formally declared for the 14th, but it's the most logical place for him, and the Club for Growth endorsed him to run there.)

IL-16: God, these pre-pre-pre-announcements are just getting ridiculous. Republican Winnebago County Board member Frank Gambino, who previously expressed interest in a congressional run, is informing reporters that he will "announce formation of an exploratory committee." The way I read that, he's not even creating the exploratory committee — just announcing that he will. Which means this news constitutes and announcement of an announcement of something that actually doesn't really exist. (The FEC doesn't recognize any such creature as an "exploratory" committee. It's a campaign committee, period, regardless of what candidates call it.)

NC-11: Well, this statement from Heath Shuler's spokesman sounds pretty reverse-Shermanesque (Shuleresque?):

“Heath Shuler is running for reelection in 2012. He is not going to be the next athletic director at the University of Tennessee. He has not sought it. He has not interviewed for it. If offered, he will not accept it. He will not be the next AD at UT. He is running for reelection.”

Here's a thought, courtesy David Jarman: Could Shuler pull a Tim Holden and instead run in the redrawn 10th CD? It contains the Democratic town of Asheville, it's overall less red than the new 11th, and even though it has an incumbent, does anyone really like Patrick McHenry?

ND-AL: GOP state Rep. Kim Koppelman claims he's being "strongly encouraged" to run for Rick Berg's open seat by local and national leader. No timeline on a decision, though.

NY-09: This might be the one district where you actually want his help: Joe Lieberman (remember him?) just endorsed Democrat David Weprin in the special election, a move aimed to push back at Ed Koch's ridiculous endorsement of Bob Turner.

OH-04: Now this is the kind of cat fud we all live for. If you've been following the debt ceiling absurdities, you may be aware that a top aide to the ultra-rightist Republican Study Committee sent out emails trying to whip votes against John Boehner's latest proposal. This infuriated the GOP caucus for a whole host of obvious reasons, with RSC chair Jim Jordan being the chief object of their rage — and now Jordan may pay the ultimate price. With Ohio losing two seats in redistricting, one Republican source tells the Columbus Dispatch that Jordan "doesn't know it, but he solved a problem for Republican line-drawers by (figuratively) standing up and saying, 'I'm a jerk and I deserved to be punished.'" Punished, that is, by having his seat dismantled. Another nameless Republican concurs, saying: "The easiest option for everybody has presented itself." Jean Schmidt ought to send Jim Jordan a birthday cake… but the only thing he's eating right now is a box of Purina.

Yesterday afternoon, in response to the idea that Jordan's district might get dismembered, House Speaker John Boehner said "the word 'retribution' is not in my vocabulary." Boehner may not (yet) be chopped liver, but he's also not a member of the Ohio legislature. And if that body should nonetheless decide to do Jordan in… well, Boehner can say it again: retribution is not in his vocabulary!

RI-01: Things have been looking quite rocky lately for freshman Dem David Cicilline, with a whole host of folks thinking about primarying him — and a pretty serious general election challenger emerging in the form retired state police chief Brendan Doherty. But ex-Rep. Patrick Kennedy, the man Cicilline replaced, is still standing by him, holding a fundraiser in California for Cicilline last month and planning another this fall. On the flipside, in "Did you know they were Republicans?" news, the Farrelly brothers — of Something About Mary fame — are hosting a fundraising event for Doherty.

UT-02 (?): Republican Morgan Philpot, who came close to beating Rep. Jim Matheson last year and had previously expressed interest in running again, says he's forming an exploratory committee — but, as is so often the case, he's not sure which district he'll run in. In addition to Matheson's CD, Utah is getting a new seat and Jason Chaffetz looks like he'll run for Senate, so he might have as many as three options. (Hell, maybe Rob Bishop will primary Gov. Gary Herbert.) As an aside, can I just say I'm really glad we only have to deal with redistricting once a decade? Because writing up these "he could run in eleventy thousand different districts" stories is starting to wear me out. Thank you for letting me complain.

WA-01: Oregon 1st CD voters, breathe easy. Dennis Kucinich is indeed headed back to the Pacific Northwest next week, but to his usual stomping grounds in Seattle. He'll speak at the Washington State Labor Council's yearly convention, along with actual Washingtonians like Roger Goodman, Marko Liias, Laura Ruderman, and Denny Heck. Actually, since OR-01 will have a special election, couldn't Kucinich run there first and then run in WA-01 as a fallback option? Hahahahah! Yes he could!

Other Races:

WI Recall (PDF): A company called the Campaign Media Analysis Group has an impressive roundup of what looks like every ad airing in the Wisconsin recalls, as of last Friday. Though the link is to a PDF, the file contains links to all the ads, including those by third-party groups. Very much worth checking out.

Redistricting Roundup:

CA Redistricting: Some confusingly-titled "final drafts" of the CA redistricting commission's work were circulated yesterday, but the actual final maps are being released today. While the commission didn't leave itself a lot of time, it's possible some last-minute tweaks will be made.

NC Redistricting: North Carolina's GOP-held legislature passed its new legislative and congressional plans on Wednesday, and since Dem Gov. Beverly Perdue doesn't get a veto, these maps are now "final." I put "final" in scare-quotes, of course, because there will indeed be serious litigation over these plans, guaranteed. You can see the congressional map just below. It looks like it changed only slightly from version 2, which we analyzed here. Click for a larger version:

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  •  Intrigued by FL-Sen (2+ / 0-)
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    I continue to be amazed that a guy who can barely break 35% approval rating and can't even hit the 50% mark for re-election still manages to lead his rumored GOP challengers by double-digit margins. And he only manages to pull favorables of 50% form his own Party base?

    How sad.

    The GOP candidates must suck that bad. Or, possibly voters don't know enough to have opinions of some of them.

    As a new FL resident, I'm somewhat anxious to see how Nelson plays his cards. I'd guess in the same boring manner that has folks seemingly turning out each election despite feeling completely "Blah!" about him.

    More and Better Democrats

    by SJerseyIndy on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 05:32:54 AM PDT

    •  Well that's just it... (4+ / 0-)
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      A lot of his disapproval comes in the form of Democrats who are obviously going to back him over the Republican candidate.  So a lot of that disapproval and neutral feeling over him doesn't translate into votes for the Republican.

      Plus, I'm not sure Nelson is all that bad a Democrat.  I don't remember him ever being some major blockade to anything Democrats really cared about.

      •  It's a wonder that with such disapproval... (1+ / 0-)
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        in the Party that he doesn't face even the threat of a primary come election time.

        I guess tenure has payoffs.

        More and Better Democrats

        by SJerseyIndy on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 07:24:43 AM PDT

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      •  What's his current approval rate (1+ / 0-)
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        among Democrats, according to recent polling?

        Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

        by MichaelNY on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 12:41:39 PM PDT

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        •  He just barely busts 50%. (0+ / 0-)

          That is, just barely half of Florida Democrats approve of him.

          Seems like the perfect opening for a primary.

          More and Better Democrats

          by SJerseyIndy on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 01:35:42 PM PDT

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          •  Well Florida Democrats (2+ / 0-)
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            would be stupid too and that's why they aren't doing it.

            19, Chairman DKE Gay Caucus, male, Dem, (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09) Tammy Baldwin for Senate!

            by ndrwmls10 on Sat Jul 30, 2011 at 04:17:37 AM PDT

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          •  53-19 last month (3+ / 0-)
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            The key is only 19% disapprove. He wouldn't need any of the 28% of "meh" Democrats to win. Agree with everybody else that a primary here would be counterproductive to say the least. In any number of ways. Frankly, I'm amazed it comes up time and time again.

            •  I'm amazed many keep seeming to think... (0+ / 0-)

              they'll get reform by continuing to elect the same people who fucked it all up.

              Fantasy if there ever was one.

              More and Better Democrats

              by SJerseyIndy on Sat Jul 30, 2011 at 09:59:55 AM PDT

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              •  The only fantasy is that someone (4+ / 0-)
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                Like Bill Nelson is the problem. Risking a seat where the incumbent is favored to win in tricky territory when there are harder holds elsewhere and larger numbers in total to defend is madness. Allowing Republicans to be elected will not bring reform.

                •  No Bill Nelson is definitely not THE problem. (0+ / 0-)

                  He's just PART of the problem.

                  I'll tell ya: with so many folks guided by fear, it's no wonder this Party is rather a failure.

                  So many seem so afraid of the what-ifs to move from the mud.

                  Stay stuck. It's working wonders...

                  More and Better Democrats

                  by SJerseyIndy on Sat Jul 30, 2011 at 01:55:24 PM PDT

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                  •  Your tone and content (3+ / 0-)
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                    is not appropriate for this sub-site. At Daily Kos Elections, we're committed to electing Democrats, not having inter-mural fights about which Democrats in closely-divided states are less than 100% liberal and, therefore, should in some alternate universe be primaried. I think you want to go to the front page, which is thataway -->

                    Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

                    by MichaelNY on Sat Jul 30, 2011 at 02:46:27 PM PDT

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                    •  Thank you user 214,somethingsomethingsomething (1+ / 3-)
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                      tietack, jncca, twohundertseventy

                      I think that I'll roam wherever I want at the site I've been a member of far longer than you.

                      Sorry in advance.

                      That said: you know where you can your strawman and put it?

                      Nobody ever said anything about 100% liberal.
                      Except you.


                      More and Better Democrats

                      by SJerseyIndy on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 05:34:02 AM PDT

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                      •  Your overall tone is disruptive to our community (2+ / 0-)
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                        sapelcovits, jncca

                        here at Daily Kos Elections.

                        and is therefore worthy of a HR.

                        "I hope; therefore, I can live."
                        For SSP users, see my Tips for Swingnuts diary

                        by tietack on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 07:40:42 AM PDT

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                        •  Actually, it's not. It's HR abuse. (0+ / 0-)

                          There was a discussion between another user and myself where-in the other user stuffed strawman into my mouth that I never said. And I simply took issue with it by pointing it out.

                          You and I went through this before.

                          It was at the time you were telling others to blindly uprate right-wing conservatives while encouraging others to toss about the abusive HR you just did.

                          You think I forget?

                          Think again.

                          Stuff your abusive HR.

                          More and Better Democrats

                          by SJerseyIndy on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 08:32:42 AM PDT

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                          •  Substance of the HR (3+ / 0-)
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                            1) You are not following the "rules of the road" w/r/t Daily Kos Elections . If you disagree with them, take it up with the management of DKE.
                            2) You are suggesting that you are superior to another user based on your relative membership dates at DK . That's like suggesting that someone who has just received their American citizenship is less patriotic.
                            3) IIRC, you have not appeared at DKE since my diary linked in my signature. And now you come in on a diary five months later and cause this disruption. That is classic troll behavior.


                            "I hope; therefore, I can live."
                            For SSP users, see my Tips for Swingnuts diary

                            by tietack on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 08:46:39 AM PDT

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                          •  DKE management? (0+ / 0-)

                            Those are the folks who had to step in to correct you the last time you hurled one of the abusive donuts, right?


                            And who cares how often I show up in DKE diaries? I show up when I want. And I prefer that when I show up, you don't uprate those who wrongly try to place words in the mouths of others while tossing abusive dough at those who have the audacity to point it out.

                            Your were set straight by users when you gave the suggestion in your diary to violate site policy by hurling donuts at longtime users for lackluster reasons while at the same time calling for blind uprates of right-wing conservatives. Then, you were set straight by DKE higher-ups after you ignored that previous attempted warning. Yet, here you are again.

                            See you next time.

                            More and Better Democrats

                            by SJerseyIndy on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 02:21:56 PM PDT

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                          •  My diary is supporeted by DKE management (2+ / 0-)
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                            sapelcovits, MichaelNY

                            The record is as in the diary linked in my signature line. You may review it at your convenience.

                            I will continue to hide rate people who insult other users here at DKE, as you did in this thread. I and others have hide rated similar insults in the months that we from SSP have been here.

                            If you continue to choose to violate the "rules of the road" at DKE, I believe that is trollish behavior that is also hide-rateable. But as few that I know of have chosen to do so, this is less tested.

                            As noted in the DK FAQ:

                            Any and all insults are HRable. Although users are never required to uprate any comment, it is considered a violation of site policy to uprate a comment with an insult in it.

                            "I hope; therefore, I can live."
                            For SSP users, see my Tips for Swingnuts diary

                            by tietack on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 02:32:22 PM PDT

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                          •  I have reviewed the HRs that I've given (2+ / 0-)
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                            and do not see any instance where I've been admonished by DKE management for such.

                            I therefore ask you to back up your statement.

                            "I hope; therefore, I can live."
                            For SSP users, see my Tips for Swingnuts diary

                            by tietack on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 04:00:47 PM PDT

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                          •  Guys (1+ / 0-)
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                            I'm going to ask everyone to move on to something more productive. I don't think this sub-thread is accomplishing a whole lot. I would really appreciate it if this derail just got dropped entirely. Let's all go enjoy those last few drops of weekend that are left. Thank you.

                            Political Director, Daily Kos

                            by David Nir on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 04:45:09 PM PDT

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                          •  You're not going to see the HR you removed. (0+ / 0-)

                            That's the point: you were admonished and you removed it.

                            And here you are again.

                            Let't not act as if we didn't see this coming:

                            I think you're going to find that if your fellow SSPers get smartass with offhand remarks about others demanding 100% ideological purity when nobody ever said any such thing, they're gonna get pushback.

                            And that pushback is not the insult.

                            The insult starts with ascribing positions to others who have not themselves claimed them, and then using the projected positions as a means of attack.

                            Might mull it over.

                            More and Better Democrats

                            by SJerseyIndy on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 06:06:00 PM PDT

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                          •  I see no evidence of what you suggest (0+ / 0-)

                            And I stand by everything I said in this diary, and before, in the link you included.

                            If you wish to discuss it further, you're welcome to PM me.

                            "I hope; therefore, I can live."
                            For SSP users, see my Tips for Swingnuts diary

                            by tietack on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:12:30 AM PDT

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                      •  Quote (2+ / 0-)
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                        "Nobody ever said anything about 100% liberal."

                        And yet 85% isn't good enough for you in an R+2 state? I rest my case.

      •  It's not so much disapproval as it is (2+ / 0-)
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        nonchalance. The big chunk of Democrats that isn't giving him an actual nod of approval seems to be saying, time and time and time again, that while they don't love him, they are more than happy to vote for him. And in the end, that's what matters.

        And no, he does not appear to be a progressive's wet dream. He is, however, a solid if not super solid vote on pretty much everything, he doesn't grand stand just to be a pain in the ass, and he continues to lead his challengers in an always close state by impressive margins. That's nothing to scoff at.

        •  Nobody could beat him anyway (2+ / 0-)
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          There isn't anyone with the stature, skill or resources which makes it all the more stupid. 84.79 Progressive Punch lifetime score. As way of comparison, the most conservative Democrat, Ben Nelson, comes in at 53.95 and the most liberal Republican, Olympia Snowe, scores 36.31.

  •  Tea party group targeting...Allen West??? (2+ / 0-)
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  •  NM-Sen and Iglesias (1+ / 0-)
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    NM-Sen: Karl Rove will be headlining a fundraiser for ex-Rep. Heather Wilson next month, and as Matthew Reichbach points out, that ought to cast a spotlight back on the sordid business of the firing of U.S. Attorney David Iglesias, something both Rove and Wilson were intimately involved with — though they had contradictory self-serving stories to tell about the whole affair.

    I wonder what David Iglesias is up to now?  I seem to recall at the height of the controversy that he allowed as how he might someday run against his ungrateful masters as an Hispanic conservative.  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 05:51:33 AM PDT

  •  Emerson & Farr (6+ / 0-)

    Shit like that just pisses me off...

    It's one thing if you run a privately held company, especially one you started... or even a privately held company that your daddy or granddaddy built.

    But Emerson is a publicly held company and Farr is just the CEO.  He didn't start the company, he joined it.  Whoopty-friggin-do that he's been with it for 25 years and rose to the position of CEO, it's not his company.

    Rising into the top floor corner office of a publicly held company shouldn't give you leave to then use that company as your own personal political action committee.

    If the CEO of my firm ever did any such thing - and she wouldn't - I don't care how far apart we might be on the org chart, I'd be letting her know about it and typing up my resignation letter as I did so.  Before I exited, I'd be sure to express the same to every other employee, not to mention making sure that the board of directors (who probably wouldn't care) and every well-heeled investor and fund manager (who might) knew the reason I was leaving and the fact that I wasn't shy about broadcasting that reason.

    And no - I wouldn't care who or which party said CEO was boosting.

    Full Disclosure: I am an unpaid shill for every paranoid delusion that lurks under your bed - but more than willing to cash any checks sent my way

    by zonk on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 06:03:29 AM PDT

  •  Joe Walsh lent his campaign (14+ / 0-)

    $35,000 while telling the court he was broke.

    Great question! Is it laundering contributions or perjury?

    19, Chairman DKE Gay Caucus, male, Dem, (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09) Tammy Baldwin for Senate!

    by ndrwmls10 on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 06:05:59 AM PDT

  •  Expanding operations at the DSCC (5+ / 0-)
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    to protect the slim Democratic majority.

    19, Chairman DKE Gay Caucus, male, Dem, (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09) Tammy Baldwin for Senate!

    by ndrwmls10 on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 06:08:45 AM PDT

  •  Too Funny (4+ / 0-)

    about Jordan in Ohio's 4th.  I live in the 4th and I gotta tell you this cat is the worst. His only claim to fame is that he was a state wrestling champion in school.  The 4th is a extremely hard core repub district easliy winning 60 to 40 in every election. Hell, Jordan even had his own budget plan because he said that the Ryan Plan didn't cut enough!

    P.S. He was handed Mike Oxley's seat when Oxley retired. Damn, I never thought I'd say this but,  I kinda miss Oxley right now..........

    "If fighting for a more equal and equitable distribution of the wealth of this country is socialistic, I stand guilty of being a socialist." Walter Reuther

    by fugwb on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 06:21:32 AM PDT

  •  MA-Sen (3+ / 0-)

    Please, no more CEOs!  Our government is far too corportatist already!

    The river always wins. (Mark Twain)

    by Land of Enchantment on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 06:29:23 AM PDT

  •  NC-4 and NC-12 (4+ / 0-)

    ..look like something that should be growing in a petri dish.

    If Rep. David Price shifts his feet during a speech, he might find himself outside his own district.

    "To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well." Justice Robert Jackson, Chief Prosecutor, Nuremberg.

    by Wayward Son on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 06:52:49 AM PDT

    •  Grabbing all the Blacks in the state (0+ / 0-)

      and shoving them into three districts.

      That's why the courts should throw this out.  It's a total racial Gerrymander and completely illegal under the VRA.

      •  NC-4 is majority white. (1+ / 0-)
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        Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo! So little time, so much to know!

        by KingofSpades on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 08:46:28 PM PDT

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        •  It's still a racial Gerrymander (0+ / 0-)

          Since the purpose of its tail is to grab black voters in other counties.

          •  Or, putting it differently, (2+ / 0-)
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            Democrats in Fayetteville. It's packing Democrats.

            •  Not everything is done because of race. (3+ / 0-)
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              Democrats in the south are mostly black. Except in FL. That's the Dem base, black voters.

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              by aggou on Sat Jul 30, 2011 at 10:54:29 AM PDT

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              •  NC isn't quite as racially polarized (0+ / 0-)

                as say MS, AL, or LA.  There are quite a lot of white Democrats in NC that run the spectrum from conservative to liberal depending on the location.

                The NC-4 is a packing of white liberal Democrats for the most part and it seems legal.  The NC-12 mess that they made is not.  They made the 2001 NC-12 look pretty by comparison.  I guess it's time for another court case to strike it down and force them to redraw it more compacted.  It's still possible to pack Dems without making NC-12 a convoluted snake.

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                by KingofSpades on Sat Jul 30, 2011 at 08:05:10 PM PDT

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                •  Very true about whites. (0+ / 0-)

                  However, whites only make up 15-22% of Dems in NC. Blacks make up about 20%. That gets you close to 40, and then Hispanics make about 5 which gets you between 44-46. Blacks make up a huge chuck of the Dem party in NC. It's not racist to say that. It's fact. I mean, cut the black vote in half and that leaves Dems in the 30s for statewide elections. I get tired of ppl saying its racism when its not. Blacks are just democratic, and people should quit claiming racism when if you cut that voting population in half for dems they'd lose consistently. In the south that is.

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                  by aggou on Sun Jul 31, 2011 at 11:52:45 AM PDT

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  •  NC-11 is where Shuler belongs (7+ / 0-)

    Shuler is from Swain County in the far western end of NC, lives in Waynesville, and has the U of Tenn star that helps him in Western NC.

    The part of NC-11 west of Asheville remains unchanged, so he has the incumbent advantage. I just don't see any possibility of his switching to NC-10 - he would lose most of his built-in advantage in NC-11.

    What I do expect is McHenry in NC-10 to get a far stronger challenge that he has seen in the past since his district was weakened considerably with the addition of former Shuler voters in Asheville. Maybe we should look for a Walter Jones-type GOPer to primary McHenry and Foxx.

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    by bear83 on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 07:01:43 AM PDT

    •  Shuler is not entirely safe (3+ / 0-)
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      The 11th is gerrymandered to include more Republican voters to the Northeast and Southeast of the old 11th.

      The only thing that Shuler has going for him is that his Republican opponents won't have his incumbency or name recognition.

      Whoever comes out of the Republican primary for the 11th will get a good cash infusion. There will a strong play from the Republicans to win this seat.

      I live in Asheville, but I'm in the western section of town that is staying in the 11th. I don't like Shuler that much, but I'm going to have to support him.

      McHenry is pretty conservative. I don't see him losing a primary from the right. We'll have to overcome him with a strong Democrat and boots on the ground.

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      by cultjake on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 07:26:12 AM PDT

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      •  I feel your pain, somewhat... (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm glad that I'm not in your shoes whereby I'd support a candidate that is far to the right of me.  Right now, I'm barely in the NC-4 district...I'm probably about 300 yards from being in the NC-6 district.  The Republican Coble isn't quite as offensive as McHenry, but he's not nearly as good as Price or Miller.  

        •  Looks like I'm stuck with NC-6 (1+ / 0-)
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          by about the same distance. Going from David Price to Howard Coble is gonna be a shock.

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          by bear83 on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 07:49:58 AM PDT

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      •  I agree - Shuler is far from safe (3+ / 0-)
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        But he has a much better chance for re-election in NC-11 than running in NC-10.

        In NC-10, I'd like to see McHenry primaried from the left by a sane GOPer (if there are any left), along with getting a strong Democratic challenge in November. McHenry's just not very smart - you never know when he might screw up (like calling a nice lady a liar in a Congressional hearing).

        "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." — Abraham Lincoln

        by bear83 on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 07:54:35 AM PDT

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      •  Wasn't McHenry primaried last year? (1+ / 0-)
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        And didn't his challenger get some non-trivial share of the vote? Or am I misremembering?

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        by David Nir on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 08:22:57 AM PDT

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        •  My recollection (1+ / 0-)
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          Is yes McHenry faced a primary challenge in 2010 (Vance Patterson, David Bolden, and Scott Keadle) and I believe McHenry was actually out raised by one or even two of his primary opponents.

          But when the votes were counted McHenry won the primary rather handily.  Money did not buy his primary opponents love apparently and McHenry garnered 63% of the GOP primary vote against the field in 2010.

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          by walja on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 08:51:38 AM PDT

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    •  I tend to agree (2+ / 0-)
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      Shuler looks like a better fit in NC-11 for the reasons you have listed.  And just like you stated, McHenry is not that strong of a congressman, so I'd prefer a more progressive candidate than Shuler to run against McHenry.  I think it's quite possible that the right Democratic candidate could make a serious run against him.  

  •  Horrible economic news today... (2+ / 0-)
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    1st quarter GDP down to .4

    2nd quarter GDP at 1.3

    Recession much worse than previously thought.

    Gas prices, tornados, Japan all hurt of course.

    State governments just slashing jobs and cutting worker pay with reckless abandon -- and this is likely to worse, if not much worse.

    But what's going on Washington, twice in 7 months our government has almost shut down, and now it's close to defaulting.  You want to talk about uncertainty?  You can't get more uncertain than that.  And when you do this, you paralyze economic activity, especially with the default talk.  It's killing any chance of economic recovery, even a small one.

    Not to mention we've seen ZERO pieces of legislation from Congress that will create jobs or help produce conditions that encourage economic growth.

    It's getting to be hopeless...and I'm not really sure what Obama can do about it other than to limit the amount of damage the House does to the economy.  

    But defending himself from attacks from GOP presidential candidates is going to be extremely difficult because it's hard to explain the situation we're in with just 30 second sound bites.  Pretty disheartening...

    •  Yeah (1+ / 0-)
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      I really think that the "Boehner, where are the jobs?" mantra is apt.  This House is a massive joke.

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      by KingofSpades on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 08:47:16 PM PDT

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    •  More stimulus (1+ / 0-)
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      As I've said, I've suspected, or at least held out a faint hope, that one reason the debt ceiling talks are taking so long is that Obama has instructed his staff to try to get some more stimulus, even if it's only in the form of a payroll tax cut extension. Not that we are going to get $1 trillion or whatever is necessary for the next few years, but perhaps we can get $200 billion or so in infrastructure spending or something like it for the next year or two. After all, if he's been interested in merely cutting future spending and getting a deal passed, why not agree to something a week ago, even if it included no revenue increases?

  •  Watching Todd Akin on CNBC right now (3+ / 0-)
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    referred to him as tea party member. I seriously cannot get over how conservative this guy is and part of me thinks that Sarah Steelman maybe stronger. MO-sen looks like it will be a real nailbitter.

  •  More on the Harsdorf fake morgan freeman (4+ / 0-)
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    •  Why (2+ / 0-)
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      exactly do Republicans keep on using Morgan Freeman like this? What good can possibly come of this for them? As a big Freeman fan I am mildly annoyed.

      My political philosophy:

      by drhoosierdem on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 07:29:12 AM PDT

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      •  I love Morgan Freeman (8+ / 0-)

        And I have a great anecdote. I was looking for places to hold my wedding with my parents five years ago, and as we were walking into a midtown hotel, we were talking about "March of the Penguins" and how much we liked it. So who should happen to be in the lobby of the hotel but... Morgan Freeman! Kismet, right?

        Now, I always leave famous people alone when I see them, but my mom is... not that way. So we went over to say hi, and he was extremely gracious and friendly. Fortunately, I wasn't just a dopey fanboy. As it happens, a good friend of mine from middle and high school is family friends with him. I wasn't sure if they were still in touch (and I was never quite sure how friendly they were to begin with), so I asked if he still knew them, and he said: "Of course I know the so-and-sos."

        I said, "Susannah was my first girlfriend."

        Freeman: "No she wasn't."

        Me: "What???"

        Freeman: "I was her first boyfriend!"

        Me: "I didn't say I was her first boyfriend - just that she was my first girlfriend. You definitely had first dibs."

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        by David Nir on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 08:30:00 AM PDT

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  •  NV02 (0+ / 0-)

    politico has an interesting article on the new kate marshall ad,

    I must say I like this women's sense of humor, hopefully if she wins we will get to hear more of it

  •  Mark Dayton (10+ / 0-)

    Dayton at 40-40, and Republican legislators blamed for the shutdown 2:1

  •  nick lampson (tx-23) thinking of running again, (1+ / 0-)
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    but he's not sure where.

    He mentions pon raul's district.  there's a fool's errand.  also, inevitably ironically named pasadena mayor, john manlove is thinking of running for congress as well, but he's not sure where either.  he says either tx-14 or the new tx-36.

  •  Egads! Pat McDonough running for Senate? (1+ / 0-)
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    I have a visceral hatred for that guy because of his racist "Speak English" campaign signs.  I can hardly fathom that he's a state representative, much less being considered for national office.

    If I had to look for the pony, I'd have to concede that he has virtually no chance of ousting Cardin, and  state-wide exposure just might show him for the racist, knuckle dragging asshole he is.

    I can guarantee that either Ruppertsberger or Cardin will get as much help as possible from me; and Dutch isn't even my Rep.

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    by rb608 on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 07:53:23 AM PDT

    •  McDonough has often talked (3+ / 0-)
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      of running for higher office in the past, and hasn't done so.  And if he pulls the trigger on a Senate bid, well, I have a better chance of being elected Senator from MD than he does.  His chances of ousting Ruppersburger aren't much better, unless redistricting seriously weakens Dutch (not likely).

      But if the GOP wants to nominate someone who will make a complete ass of himself, go ahead.  Maybe Reps. Harris and Bartlett will end up being part of the collateral damage.

    •  Thanfully, He Has No Prayer (3+ / 0-)
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      He'd actually do much worse in MoCo, as much as that's possible, than McCain did.

      His right-wing populist shtick plays reasonably well in parts of MD-02 but the district is about 30% black and between them and the liberals in the city...I don't like his chances.  

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      by Answer Guy on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 10:10:03 AM PDT

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  •  As a fan of marine mammals (1+ / 0-)
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    I am glad to see Scott Brown pushing what should already exist: a crippling fine for harming sea mammals.

    It's bizarre, since it's not very small governmenty of him, and ultimately I hate these "RINOs," like Huntsman and his climate change sanity, for being smart enough to be reasonable but craven enough to ignore the sickness that is the Right, using it to pretend that they're "fiscally responsible," and that Dems want to "save the whales" on your dime. I mean, you break it you bought it. If you can't see that we won't be okay in this country until Blue Dogs are the radical right and that the one sane act you can do is to vote Democrat then you are complicit in the great crimes of the vehicle you use. Jon Huntsman isn't allowed to be "reasonable" and I will enjoy his crash and burn more than say Pawlenty's. And Brown is a moron who must be made to own his affiliations, despite his sanity on this or that issue.

    But I don't see the sense in this diary of insinuating that he was doing something stupid instead of doing an "it gets better" segment. If he felt uncomfortable then so be it. He wouldn't make a very good spokesman if his heart wasn't in it. He's not some trash spewing homophobe, so I can't see the justice in criticizing his lack of vociferousness in promoting LGBT issues. And I don't understand the suggestion that because he was protecting marine mammals he was wasting time. What you got against marine mammals?

  •  NY-09 (1+ / 0-)
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    Slightly off-topic, but this made my mind boggle.

    "Turner, for his part, also issued a statement ahead of the Lieberman event criticizing Weprin for supporting the construction of a mosque near Ground Zero, which Lieberman opposed (and Koch supported). Weprin told Hotline he had also supported the group's legal right to build there."

    I'm sorry, who's on which side of whom again?

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    by octaviuz on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 08:02:28 AM PDT

  •  WI Recalls: Holperin v. Simac - Simac taking fire! (9+ / 0-)

    Kim Simac is now facing the types of financial attacks that she she has been throwing so aggressively at others.  Another "fiscally responsible Republican" who proclaims that taxes are too high while avoiding taxes, or simply failing to pay their tax obligation.  

    Kim Simac has three businesses and the Simacs live in a very fine house.  No tax obligation over a decade while living in such a large house?  

    Well now the shoes are being thrown at Simac rather than by Simac, and all the sudden Simac is bobbing and weaving and doing anything possible to avoid a head on answer to her financial history.  Hypocrite.

    "My name's Dr. Multimillionaire and I kicked your ass." --Rep. Steve Kagen D-WI to Karl Rove

    by walja on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 08:24:40 AM PDT

  •  WI Recalls: One Wisconsin calls out the Koch Bros (5+ / 0-)
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    One Wisconsin Now shines a bright spotlight on the shady funding activities of the Brothers Koch in the Wisconsin recalls, and are deeply invested in the Scott Walker administration and his agenda.

    "My name's Dr. Multimillionaire and I kicked your ass." --Rep. Steve Kagen D-WI to Karl Rove

    by walja on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 08:31:10 AM PDT

  •  Looking closer at yesterday's Marist (1+ / 0-)
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    poll for NYC Mayor. Thompson looks even stronger. Only about 30% of African Americans support him while about another 30% are undecided. Those numbers will coalesce around him the closer we get to 2013.

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    by tigercourse on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 09:07:38 AM PDT

    •  Why do you think Thompson's (0+ / 0-)

      numbers will increase? I'd be a bit surprised if he turns out to be the next Mayor of New York. He wasn't exactly a scintillating Board of Ed Chancellor, and he is not charismatic.

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      by MichaelNY on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 12:58:54 PM PDT

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