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The Democratic party has made clear: There are times when a party member has so damaged the Democratic brand, that the most prudent step is to take our loss, and remove that member from office.

The party leaders demonstrated this principle with Rod Blagojevich. And they demonstrated this principle with Anthony Weiner. It is now time for us to Demonstrate this principle with the party leadership.

Yes, we all know how scary it is to even think about Republicans gaining the White House next year. Some people seem to live for nothing but reminding us of this daily. For the record, I lived through Nixon, Reagan, Bush I, and the Bush II presidency, and I was never as scared for my family or my country as I am right now.

But I will concede, there is a risk in not voting for Obama next year. The Supreme Court comes to mind.

But let me ask you a very important question you may not have considered: What is the bigger risk, another four years of a Republican in the White House? Or one more day in an America where we, the people, have no power over our party or our government?

Because that's what we have now. No power.

Political power is nothing more than leverage. Whether you're a lobbyist, interest group, or individual, your leverage is nothing more or less than your ability to cause a politician to win or lose the next election.

But the moment we said, "No matter what the Democrats do, they will have my vote, because the Republicans are worse" we forfeited our political power in the Democratic party. We gave up our leverage.

Many of us understood this and did it anyway. After George Bush, we recognized that having a Republican in the White House is a life or death affair.

But we also knew what we were giving up. Essentially, we were waiving our ability to influence our party. Yes, we can always primary a candidate. But the party machine is usually too well organized, too well financed to beat. And even when we do get a candidate who seems to be on our side, once in office, they sell us out.

This leaves the Kamikaze option. If you can't beat them in the primary, you let them lose in the general election, count your losses, and run someone better next time. In the days of old, this was a viable strategy and often used by both sides to maintain party discipline. But as the Republicans have become more radical, some would say even insane, the thought of losing even one seat to these psychopaths seemed unthinkable.

So we bit our lips, held our noses, and voted for the lesser evils. But eventually, we began to see patterns emerging. We saw Democrats caving when they didn't have to. Democrats failing to articulate Democratic principles, much less fight for them. And we saw that no matter who held the majority, the right wing always seemed to be in control. WTF? Eventually, however, we figured it out. We are being played.

Like the Sword of Damocles, the threat of Republican victory has been used as a weapon against us. As our party moves more and more to the right, and sells us out over and over again, the radicalism of the Right becomes more absurd and sensationalistic. As does the media coverage of it. And in turn, the shrill cries demanding fealty to the Democratic party become more dramatic and surreal. Until one day, it becomes clear, this is all a con. It's a trick. Good cop, bad cop. And both parties are really playing for the same team - the Wall Street team.

It's like waking up from a dream into a nightmare. After working our hearts out, year after year, election after election, to keep Republicans out of power, we wake up one day and discover that our own party, the Democratic party, has become the Republican party. Actually, funneling over $16 trillion dollars to Wall Street, and then turning around and cutting programs for the old and the poor, we're worse than Republicans. This was simply monstrous.

How could we have come to this? How could our party have gotten so far to the right that they actually voted on one hand to bail out criminals and on the other to punish old people?

It happened because we, for the sake of short term political expedience, sacrificed our power. It happened because we made defeating Republicans in the short term more important than keeping our own party true to its purpose for the long term.

It happened because we, the people, the ones who really matter in this country, have been shut out of the process. It happened because we said No Matter What.

Has it really gotten so bad that letting Obama lose and a Republican win is actually better for the country and the party than once again going out and voting for the "lesser evil"?

To answer this question, just look around. What you see is the opposite of progress. On every front of our national experience, we are regressing and the forces of greed and corruption are advancing. Has the election of Obama slowed or impeded this advance in any way? Look around.

We are using more, not less fossil fuels, as though climate change is not happening. Concentrations of wealth and power are becoming even more wealthy and concentrated. The media is still becoming even more consolidated. The MIC is getting even more of our tax money. Our schools are being privatized, corporatized. The utterly insane plan to inject trillions of gallons of toxic water mix into the earth below our soil is moving forward without any serious resistance. The too big to fail banks are becoming even bigger and more consolidated. Our jobs are continuing to pay less and less and get harder to find. Everything we buy is becoming cheaper quality and more expensive. Our food is becoming less nutritious, less safe, and more expensive.

On every single front, the environment, energy, economic, we are going backwards from the progress we made over the 20th Century.

How is this happening? It's happening because we voted for labels instead of convictions. It's happening because we gave away what little leverage we have to swear loyalty to the Democratic party without demanding loyalty in return.

We said we would vote for Democrats No Matter What, and the party leadership took us up on our offer.

So now they don't have to listen to us anymore. Not just progressives either. They don't have to listen to the people. The Party of the People, without the people.


The Oligarchs Need a Fake People's Party

Understand, the Oligarchs need two parties. They have to maintain the illusion of choice and conflict. They play each party off the other. That's how the game works.

This Kabuki Theater was on full display in this debt ceiling charade, with Obama playing the victim of his own making to convince the Left of the necessity of the deal.

John McCain couldn't have gotten Social Security cuts through. It took a Democrat to do that. So when you vote for the lesser evil Democrat, you're not hurting the right. You're helping it by making the Democratic party just a puppet in their stage show.

There was a time when the Oligarchs tried to defeat the Democrats. It failed. So, they got smart. They figured out it was much wiser to instead co-opt the Democrats, infiltrate them, use them.

This began in the late-Seventies, early-Eighties with groups like the Democratic Leadership Council and its Orwellianly named affiliate, the Progressive Policy Institute. And year after year, election after election, the Democrats began to resemble the Republicans more and more. Sure, the marketing was different - they always know how to say the right things. And they were pretty liberal on social issues. But on economic issues, trade, outsourcing, wages - the issues Wall Street cares about - the two parties were becoming indistinguishable.

And frankly, liberals didn't know what hit them. While we were fighting the good fight in the culture wars, Wall Street was re-engineering American society to the right in a much more fundamental way than we could even conceive of.

And they were doing it with so-called liberal Democrats. But that didn't matter. Passing NAFTA didn't matter. Ending "welfare as we knew it" didn't matter. Allowing the consolidation of the big media corporations with Clinton's 1996 Telecom bill didn't matter. Deregulating the financial sector with Clinton's 2000 Finance Modernization Act didn't matter. Passing the "Bush" tax cuts, which were actually passed by Tom Daschcle in a Democratic controlled Senate, didn't matter. Passing the Patriot Act didn't matter.

All these things were done by so-called Democrats, and that didn't matter. All that mattered was defeating Republicans.

Do you see the irony here? In our unwavering commitment to defeat Republicans at all cost, we've inadvertently turned the Democratic party into another Republican party.

In order to take our country back, and defeat the oligarchical attack on our way of life, we must first take our party back. And that means using the only leverage available to us, our vote or, as the case may be, our withholding of it, to purge the infiltrators from our party.

Does that sound harsh? Think how harsh it sounds to a 75 year old woman who is already having to choose between food and medication to hear that her Social Security and Medicare has just been cut.

The Democratic party has been infiltrated, and the infiltrators have got to go. Why do you think the Koch brothers supported the Democratic Leadership Council? Because the Democratic Leadership Council is an infiltration operation. That's what it does. It promotes and supports right wingers in the Democratic party.

In the past, it's been somewhat difficult to identify infiltrators, with some setting the bar lower than others. But now we have a clear and convenient metric: If you voted to bail Wall Street out of its gambling debts, and also voted to cut our safety net for old people and poor children, you are a fucking infiltrator.

The FAQ says that the purpose of this site is to elect more and better Democrats.

Listen to me now: Supporting candidates who cut SS, Medicare and Medicaid, and also supported bailing out billionaire banksters, is entirely in violation of the FAQ. Because, I assure you, this will bury the Democratic party for a generation. These assholes are a bigger liability to the long term prospects of the Democratic party than Rod Blagojevich ever could be.

I have never seen a greater case of sabotage than what this deal does to the Democratic party, for perhaps generations and maybe even permanently.

So when the defenders of the indefensible troll around telling you you have to vote for Obama in 2012, they are effectively telling you to destroy your party.

Anything that removes the power of the American people over our government is harmful to our party and to this country. And that's what "No Matter What" does. It steals you of your power to hold your party to account.

I am far less scared of another Republican in the White House than I am of an America where the people who are the smartest, least corruptible, most patriotic, and have been proven right on issue after issue decade after decade, in other words, the progressives, can be ignored and disempowered without consequence.

Can anyone stand up and say, yes, let's have another four years of being kicked to the curb, talked down to, and treated like the enemy when we are the ones who continue to get it right on pretty much issue.

I've even seen people here, at Daily Kos, get away with trying to portray progressives as the problem. They troll around screaming "True Progressive", apparently trying to make the word progressive a pejorative. Geniuses.

Do you have any idea what this country would be like if True Fucking Progressives hadn't fought for decades for workers, wages, the environment, and pretty much everything that is right and just in this country?

It would be a lot like post-Soviet Russia meets Mexico.

No, I will not vote for Barack Obama. And anyone who claims that we have to continue supporting right wing traitors to our party just to defeat the Republicans, is a fool, working for the other side.

Lastly, I see any political strategy that seeks to take away the power of ordinary people to demand policies that actually serve the people instead of Wall Street as being unacceptable. I will not forfeit my leverage over my party's leaders by giving them my unconditional support.

I know that this may hurt in the short term and Republicans may gain seats. But in the long term, the Democratic party is going to know, if you cross us again, we will fucking bury you.

That is people power. And that is what this country needs more than anything.

Originally posted to Happy Rockefeller on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:21 PM PDT.

Also republished by Jobs Wages and Community Investment Working Group and Income Inequality Kos.

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    •  Advocating the removal and/or defeat of our (8+ / 0-)

      Democratic president is HR worthy in my opinion.  If you want to advocate against Obama's re-election, you need to join the Green party or something.

      Besides this nonsense that Obama is a traitorous evil "faux Republican" is nonsense.  Health Care reform (which no Democratic President had been able to achieve), the stimulus, saving the American Auto Industry, repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell; and filling two Supreme Court vacancies with solid liberal Justices is in my humble opinion a pretty good track record.

      We have nothing to fear but fear itself

      by bhouston79 on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:56:38 PM PDT

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      •  I do not believe this is HR worthy (8+ / 0-)

        it is a respectful discussion. Although I do not agree with  the diarist's reasoning, having the discussion could be enlightening and valuable.  In other words, your donut is egregious man.

        If you think education is expensive, wait until you see how much stupid costs

        by Sychotic1 on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:28:36 PM PDT

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      •  Fuck you. This is My Democratic Party (6+ / 2-)

        And I'll advocate what I want. I've been a Democrat longer than you've been born. And I want the Republicans out of my party. Starting with Obama and presumably, you.

        As for Obama's Republican health care act, and his failed stimulus of Republican tax cuts, and his court appointees which left the court further to the right than he found it, and almost certain more corporatist, no thanks.

      •  What is this? My president right or wrong? (4+ / 0-)

        Where am I? At a Republican party meeting in 1973?

        Those who push this line of argument are doing nothing but clearing the room of voters.

        Anybody who registers as a Democrat - and meets other constitutional requirements - can not only challenge the president on points, but can oppose him in the primary.

        Whether you agree with this diarist or not, he has the right to speak his mind.  Obama hasn't won the next election and a smart political operative would be listening to what his potential voting base thought of his candidate and making adjustments accordingly.

        Like us or not, Obama still has to win our vote.  You can't order us to be silent and you can't order us to vote the way you want.

        What Obama and his supporters have utterly ignored is the fucking collapse of the economy as it is experienced by the bottom 40-60% of the population.  Ten's of millions of people whose jobs were lost. Most of them will never know economic security again.  Millions more jobs turned from full-time, living wage positions into crappy little part-time jobs with no benefits.  American wages are collapsing while the basic costs of living continue to rise.

        Yo, numbnuts, its a fucking depression out here. What has Obama done about that?

        Oh, yeah. He killed a million public sector jobs - the last bastion of living wage permanent work and raised compromise with fascists to the level of moral duty.  He sent Axelrod out on the eve of the last election to defend the banks against homeowners while the mortgage fraud/foreclosure crisis spun out of control.

        That's not only morally bankrupt, that's fucking stupid politics. I'm sorry, any politician too stupid to understand why that was an idiotic idea is too stupid to stay in office.

        From the git-go, he was more interested in cutting the deficit than saving Americans from ruin. Worse than that, he poured trillions into the coffers of the very companies and banks who ruined America and produced no new living wage jobs. All that money either flowed around the stock market - making money out of money - or disappeared overseas to India, China and elsewhere.

        It is absolute poetry that Obama and the national Dems started by saving the banks who crashed the economy and stopped after they worked their way down to investor reform, abandoning everyone else to their fate in a predator economy, in the worst economic climate since the great depression. Talk about throwing us to the wolves.  

        With Democrats like these, who needs Republicans?

        Nobody has been held to account for crashing the economy with systemic fraud.  Indeed, his Attorney General sat on every Federal prosecutor who tried to hold these white collar criminals to justice. Just as Obama let his mortal political enemies off the hook for crimes against humanity - Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, etc. - only to watch them return to bite him in the ass.

        Meanwhile our statistical measures of poverty, unemployment and living costs function more to hide the damage being done to the bottom half of America, than they are to illuminate the damage done.

        Meanwhile our 3 wars in the Muslim world have turned into 4 wars, with two more covert wars being run behind our back (Yemen, Somalia).  All of them credit card wars that blew a hole the size of the moon in our federal budget.  None of them winnable and all of them destined to go on forever until either we throw everyone who started them out of power, or our troops riot and demand to be sent home.  

        But again, who paid the bill? The very people being burned by both parties for the benefit of the corporate campaign contributors.

        But even if we do bring our troops home (unlikely under this administration). What will they come home to? Most of the grunts are from poor communities and thousands of our cities and towns are dying on the vine.  Hell, that's why they enlisted: to escape the permanent poverty of being born poor in a America that doesn't give a shit about its own people.  Just corporations.

        It'll take a decade - if not a generation - to resuscitate their local economies. None of which will happen, so long as both parties embrace trickle-down, free-trade economics, privatization, downsizing, outsourcing and the suicidal logic of ''economies of scale'.

        What the Democratic leadership can't get through their overprivileged, trust-funded, ivy league brains is that without the bottom 40-60% of America, they ain't winning nothing in the next election. Or weren't you paying attention in 2010?

        What his supporters can't get through their thick heads is it ain't a coalition if none of our issues are addressed.

        We're left to drown, so that the rich might escape responsibility and continue to make money off the government tit and we're supposed to support that bullshit again?

        We're supposed to rally to the party when they keep on throwing us under a bus - over and over and over again - to save the rich and the guilty and perpetuate eternal fucking war?

        Put the crack pipe down, homey, 'cause you ain't seeing clearly.  

        And your pathetic attempt to silence critique will only continue to drain the pool of voters.

        I have a better plan. Start listening very, fucking closely to what we are saying. Because we're your margin of victory whether you like it or not. As I said, it ain't a coalition if none of our needs or interests are addressed.

        So stop crawling on your knees to Republicans and start compromising with us.

        •  Well said Tom! Thanks for mentioning (2+ / 0-)
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          the immoral wars we are fighting.  I'm not sure how people can ignore the atrocities that constitute our homicidal foreign policy. This rarely ever comes up in these discussions about Obama and some of the chickenhawk Democrats who are now evidently in favor of killing people on the other side of the planet for no fucking reason.

          And thanks to Happy Rockefeller as well.  You both hit it just right.

          There is no apparent limit for some Obama supporters.  No war so unjustifiable, no corporate giveaway too large, no Republican-like behavior, no Reagan worship too radical for them.  

          John

        •  This would be a good sig line (1+ / 0-)
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          With Democrats like these, who needs Republicans?

          I want to go back to believing in everything and knowing nothing at all.i>

          by Audri on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 06:56:00 AM PDT

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    •  Stupid (5+ / 0-)
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      Yea, that's what I said.  We were doing pretty good when we had a Democratic Congress and Obama in the White House.  OBAMA IS NOT THE PROBLEM, THE REPUBLICON HOUSE MAJORITY AND NO REAL MAJORITY IN THE SENATE IS WHERE OUR PROBLEM IS.  

      Therefore, instead of saying you won't for for Obama why not say that you're going to work to re-elect him and get our majority back in the House and a Super Majority in the Senate.

      Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it .

      by Rosalie907 on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:59:43 PM PDT

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      •  No we weren't, we were getting screwed (2+ / 0-)
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        The Dems produced a stimulus plan that repaid the very corporations who crashed the economy and left everyone in economic danger to drown.

        It did not produce any jobs, because it was based on trickle-down/free trade economic policies which are precisely responsible for the destruction of the living wage job market and economic diversity at the bottom of the economy.

        Then they pissed away a solid year to produce health care reform that was nothing but a fucking mandate to pay taxes to the very corporations who have been cannibalizing health care for profit.  And in a collapsing economy, no less.

        Only a bunch of socio-economically inbred trust-funders and Ivy League brats could be that clueless as to do such a thing in a depression economy. Talk about misreading the electorate.

        And the whole time they proved that 40 Republicans in the senate constitutes a fillibuster-proof majority.

        I'm glad your rose colored glasses allowed you to see a beautiful political world from 2009-2010, but it blinded you to see how devastating this administration has been to anyone who doesn't have money in the stock market.

        Apparently, it also blinded you to the results of the 2010 election, where we got mugged by an angry electorate furious at this party for acting like pompous, country-club, pseudo-liberals and ignoring the economic crisis in their lives.

        You have absolutely no chance of seeing your super-majority again until this party finds its inner-Roosevelt and starts serving the interests of the people and not their richest campaign contributors.

        Indeed, until this party takes the critique of folks like Happy Rockefeller and myself on board, they have little chance of enjoying any majorities at all.

        And if you think the Republicans are going to send up one of their wing-nut lunatics as their standard bearer, you have been drinking too much koolaid.

        I have a 5 dollar bill that says the Republican candidate for president in 2012 will be a centrist, with no obvious lunatic tendencies or shady personal habits.

        And since Obama and the Democrats have banked so hard to the political right, such a candidate will be well positioned to eat our lunch for breakfast.

        Folks like me will vote third party, the tens of millions of people burned by both parties will just stay home, while 'centrists' and the remaining middle class will flock to the Republicans. And we will lose it all.

        That's not a foregone conclusion, because this party can still turn back to its own base and start taking care of our immediate and vital needs. But if they stay the course, it will lead to political disaster.

        Mark my words. Folks like myself did everything we could to get this right-wing government to pay attention to the economic crisis down here in the zip codes that just don't matter to the country club elites, before they pissed away the treasury on their destructive economic policies. This party ignored us before the last election. Here's hoping you aren't all too stupid to do so again.

    •  Uprated for discussion purposes and because (2+ / 0-)
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      there is too much compulsory "you must support the president" when he clearly does not support long-term Democratic principles and programs.

      From the President of the United States, July 22, 2011:

         Essentially what we had offered Speaker Boehner was over a trillion dollars in cuts to discretionary spending, both domestic and defense. We then offered an additional $650 billion in cuts to entitlement programs -- Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.

      http://m.whitehouse.gov/...

      case closed.  In light of this, the HR is bullshit.

      Progress occurs when courageous, skillful leaders seize the opportunity to change things for the better. -- Harry S Truman

      by YucatanMan on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 01:05:19 AM PDT

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    •  NOTV = GBCW. (0+ / 0-)

      If you're going to Neg Out The Vote, you may as well write a GBCW and leave.  

    •  Automatic HR IMO (1+ / 0-)
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      You don't support my President?

      Get lost!

      Someone please get me out of this alternate reality...I can't take it any more!

      by Cinnamon Rollover on Fri Aug 05, 2011 at 05:50:29 PM PDT

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  •  When were benefits cut? Legislation, please. (7+ / 0-)

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White

    by zenbassoon on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:24:40 PM PDT

    •  "SUPER" CONGRESS (1+ / 0-)
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      Shall we take a vote on whether it recommends MAJOR cuts to Social Security and Medicare? Because it will. Because Obama and fellow Republicans gave it the power so that just one Blue Dog has to go along with the Republicans for their bill to pass the committee. And you have to know by now that Obama will ensure that the Democrats on the committee are Blue Dogs with a penchant for whacking the Social Safety Net, just like he did with  his Catfood Commission, chaired by Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles and his Fiscal Responsibility Summit with keynote speaker Pete Peterson.  

      "It depends what the meaning of 'is', is"
      Platform of the "New" Neoliberal Democratic Party
      Speaking out of one side of their mouth for the little guy, their nominal constituency, and the other for the plutocracy, their real constituency.

      by Sanctimonious on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 12:28:24 AM PDT

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  •  Look at this line: (9+ / 0-)
    "No matter what the Democrats do, they will have my vote, because the Republicans are worse"

    Now reverse it:

    "No matter what the REPUBLICANS do, they will have my vote, because the Democrats are worse".

    Why does it work for them and not us?

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White

    by zenbassoon on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:26:01 PM PDT

    •  Because this is not what Republicans say. (2+ / 0-)
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      They play on fear and anger and ignorance and point to government, always the problem, never the solution. And then they tell their voters "We gonna show 'em!".

      And they actually deliver on those promises, which is easy for a Republican.

      See, Republican promise destruction. And they deliver.

      It's easy to destroy. It's easy to be a Republican. It's a lot harder to build.

      That's why the situations are not the least symmetrical between right-wingers and progressives.

      I deal in facts. My friends are few but fast.

      by Farugia on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:45:07 PM PDT

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    •  Because we aren't fascists (0+ / 0-)

      We're Democrats. Fascists sing the song of absolute allegiance to power and their leaders. Republicans have become fascist, so that trick works with them.

      Democrats - at least those of us who still hail from the Democratic wing of this party - remember that leaders serve the people, not the other way around.

      So barking at us to shut up, follow orders and sing praises to the king, not only fall on deaf ears, they piss us off and drive us away.

      Or if you are really lucky, we stay around and fight for our fucking rights.

  •  It'll just teach the Dems that progressives... (7+ / 0-)

    ...can't be counted on, so they'd better move further to the middle/right.

    But whatever.

    Ideology is an excuse to ignore common sense.

    by Bush Bites on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:30:19 PM PDT

    •  I don't agree with the diarist (8+ / 0-)

      but we were the dependable ones in 2010 but it didn't stop anyone from moving to the middle/right.

      I am going to vote for Obama, but I am going to put the lion's share of my efforts into congressional and senatorial races.  I am going to vote for the Democrat or the more liberal Democrat.  I am going to fund as many liberal democrats as I can afford.  I am going to donate to progressive causes that attack any and all enemies of the basic democratic platform. I am going to march and march again just  to let them know that we are still watching.

      So, Obama gets  my vote, but I am not expending any real time or effort on his campaign.

      If you think education is expensive, wait until you see how much stupid costs

      by Sychotic1 on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:38:24 PM PDT

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      •  Can't argue with that. (3+ / 0-)
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        I'm not thrilled with the way things are going either, but I know sitting out or going Green is not the answer.

        Ideology is an excuse to ignore common sense.

        by Bush Bites on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:41:33 PM PDT

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      •  I do agree with Happy Rockefeller (5+ / 0-)

        This is dead on.  I am also fully awake now and it helps to know others are awake.  I wish the rest of you would wake up too.

        Superb post and beautifully said.  I won't hold my breath for the sheeple to wake up.

        In the GOP your status is inversely proportional to your integrity.

        by anothergreenbus on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:45:04 PM PDT

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        •  I'm perfectly awake (5+ / 0-)

          and I don't want to risk a Republican putting SCOTUS under corporatist control for the next quarter century. The next President is going to nominate between 1 and 3 new Supreme Court justices; Ginsburg's health is iffy at best, and both Kennedy and Scalia are approaching their mid 70s, when things can start to go wrong health-wise. We can either get some decent folks and watch Chief Justice Roberts write mostly minority opinions the rest of his career, or we can get a couple more ideologues like him and Alito in the prime of their lives, and we can watch a steady parade of rulings in the vein of Citizens United, putting corporations ahead of people.

          Not only do we need a Democratic President (and no one is going to risk the baggage of primarying the First African-American President), we also need to solidify our hold on the Senate.

          Now to try to end the wars we ask our gay and straight soldiers to fight. -- Chris Hayes

          by Cali Scribe on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:43:51 PM PDT

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          •  Sadly, this unfortunately is the strongest reason (0+ / 0-)

            to vote for him

          •  You are absolutely right about the Supremes (1+ / 0-)
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            Ahianne

            Can you imagine the replacement for  the K and S of the K-RATS being appointed by a Republicon who has had to court the Teahadists in order to get elected? I can - we had that with Bush, and look what it got us.

            If the Supreme Court gains even a centrist majority instead of having a devoutly, rabidly corporatist majority, that'll help a LOT.

            So no matter what your feelings on Obama, this is a good reason to keep him in office.

            Personally, the races will be so tight here in my state that I have to focus all my time and energy there. No Republican has held the governorship here since the 70s, and we certainly don't want Rob Mckenna (choke, gag) to be the first since then.

            Organ donors save multiple lives! A donor's kidney gave me my life back on 02/18/11; he lives on in me and in others. Please talk with your family about your wish to donate and sign up to give others the gift of life.

            by Kitsap River on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 10:14:47 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  Kennedy at least is a wild card (1+ / 0-)
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              when it comes to gay rights -- he wrote the majority opinion in both Lawrence v. Texas and Romer v. Evans, IIRC. Imagine a Justice who would put the Bible (or his interpretation of it) ahead of the Constitution.

              Now to try to end the wars we ask our gay and straight soldiers to fight. -- Chris Hayes

              by Cali Scribe on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 10:54:20 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

            •  Oh, and if there's anything we can do (1+ / 0-)
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              Kitsap River

              down here to help you guys up there, give a holler. I consider WA State a bit of a second home -- my spouse was born in Seattle (his folks moved down to the Bay Area when he was 6 months old), my mother-in-law grew up in Spokane, my father-in-law graduated from Port Townsend High, and they met at UW in the 1950s. :-)

              Now to try to end the wars we ask our gay and straight soldiers to fight. -- Chris Hayes

              by Cali Scribe on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 10:57:08 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  I'm sure Jay Inslee will take phonebankers (0+ / 0-)

                and there will also be GOTV phonebanking to do for a Democrat running in our new 10th CD, wherever that happens to be. And then there's getting rid of the Sheriff and sending him back home for good, replacing him with a solid Democrat. All these efforts will need phonebankers, and I doubt you'll have to be in the state to do it.

                Organ donors save multiple lives! A donor's kidney gave me my life back on 02/18/11; he lives on in me and in others. Please talk with your family about your wish to donate and sign up to give others the gift of life.

                by Kitsap River on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 11:14:55 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

      •  Oh, and I don't know what the progressive... (0+ / 0-)

        ....turnout was in 2010, but it's natural for Dems to assume it was low since they pretty much spent the first two years of the administration saying they were being sold out and would never vote for Dems again.

        Ideology is an excuse to ignore common sense.

        by Bush Bites on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:47:06 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  There's one problem with your argument (5+ / 0-)

      Polls after polls after polls, Americans tell pollsters that they prefer Democratic proposals. On pretty much everything. And not by a small margin. On many questions, it's a 2 to 1 advantage for Democrats, or even more.

      But here's the problem with your argument. What polls well are not Democratic proposals but Progressive proposals. The day you take away Progressive themes from the Democrats, the Democratic Party is a goner.

      I deal in facts. My friends are few but fast.

      by Farugia on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:52:40 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I'm not sure what you're saying. (0+ / 0-)

        Progressives don't own any policy prescriptions.

        The Dems can use whichever ones they want.

        Just like Repubs pick up conservative prescriptions.

        In fact, that's what progressives should be doing, getting more of their prescriptions adopted, rather than threatening to quit because not enough of them are being adopted.

        Ideology is an excuse to ignore common sense.

        by Bush Bites on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:13:44 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  That game only works ... (5+ / 0-)
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          Sychotic1, tardis10, YucatanMan, wbgonne, Audri

          ... if there is no credible alternative to carry Progressive policies.

          Actually, there was a very good diary about that on Sunday. Democrats fail to attract voters in proportion of the popularity of their proposals because  voters like the policies by don't trust Democrats to implement them.

          If a credible movement inside or outside of the party can appear and carry those policies, the center-right Democratic Party that we know is a goner.

          I deal in facts. My friends are few but fast.

          by Farugia on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:33:25 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  You got it backward... (2+ / 0-)
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      radmul, YucatanMan

      ...they have to earn my trust, not the other way around.

      The sleep of reason produces monsters.

      by Alumbrados on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:58:09 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  That probably won't happen. (0+ / 0-)

        The Dems will always be a coalition of competing interests, even more so than the Repubs because the Dem's base is smaller (there are more conservatives than liberals), so there will always be jockeying between the interests.

        Ideology is an excuse to ignore common sense.

        by Bush Bites on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:16:07 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  I well understand what you are saying here yet (3+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, boophus, MKSinSA

    you wrote:

    your leverage is nothing more or less than your ability to cause a politician to win or lose the next election.

    So is this the time to draw your line? How can it be when you do not know who the GOP nominee even is? Or what the final optics are going into November 2012? To begin the reclamation of the Democratic Party are you willing to reward the GOP with all branches of the government?

    "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

    by tardis10 on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:36:28 PM PDT

  •  SCOTUS (9+ / 0-)

    nuff said...

    You want Michelle Bachmann choosing SCOTUS?

    Ludicrous

    •  The diarist dismissed that as unimportant (8+ / 0-)

      even though it would change the electoral playing field for several generations, making it impossible for us to win. And it would enslave women. But that doesn't matter I guess to those so disillusioned that they are just having loquacious tantrums.

      Jennifer Brunner for Governor of Ohio 2014

      by anastasia p on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:46:19 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Yeah, imagine if instead of Elana Kagen and (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      American in Kathmandu, Ahianne

      Sonia Sotamayor we had two radical right wingers on the Court now in their place.

      We have nothing to fear but fear itself

      by bhouston79 on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:00:18 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Have they voted in any winning decisions (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        jlynne

        over the conservatives?  Have they swung any decisions to a different decision than other wise?

        I'm glad they are there, but would have preferred more liberal appointees, but they haven't really made a huge difference.  If a decision is 5-4 or 7-2, the winning side wins.  And that becomes the law of the land.

        Progress occurs when courageous, skillful leaders seize the opportunity to change things for the better. -- Harry S Truman

        by YucatanMan on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 01:12:14 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Explain to me again (0+ / 0-)

          How many Conservatives there are and how many Liberal Judges there are?
          I will leave the Math to you to figure out for yourself.....but YES upcoming Supreme Court nominees are even more important than even the President.

          Thank you I knew you could do it!

      •  Okay here is a hypothetical as well (0+ / 0-)

        just for a moment imagine having Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin instead of Kagen and Sotomayor and then you might get the point.

    •  I think by clearly saying he's (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      virginislandsguy

      electing for a "kamikaze option" the diarist made it pretty clear he doesn't much care how much destruction it takes if he thinks there's the remotest chance of it making a difference long term.  

      I personally don't buy that it would be effective, and there are certainly quite a number of costs I'm unwilling to pay to find out for sure, and an even more reactionary SCOTUS is only one of them.

      That so many people rec'd this diary so quickly after it was written tells me a lot about this site right now.  Sadly.

      Now, American in Chiang Mai :)

      by American in Kathmandu on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:13:09 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Ok, so who are you voting for down-ticket... (12+ / 0-)

    ...because that's where we need to change things.

    Oh, and if you think Obama is a faux-Republican, just imagine a real Republican in the White House in 2013. Romney, Perry, Bachmann, etc., will make Obama look downright liberal. Just remember how people abandonned Jimmy Carter, and how well that turned out!

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:38:02 PM PDT

  •  I have to say... (4+ / 0-)

    The phrase "remove [him] from office" makes me a little bit uncomfortable.

    It implies something beyond not voting for him, but rather taking an active role in his defeat or worse*.


    *I don't for a second believe the diarist means it in a nefarious way, but the phrase is most definitely open to such an interpretation.

  •  Just wait, you'll have plenty more reason. (2+ / 0-)
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    Alumbrados, YucatanMan

    That's my prediction and I'm sticking to it.  Just like I predicted he was lying and there would be no default.

    S.A.W. 2011 STOP ALL WARS "The Global War on Terror is a fabrication to justify imperialism."

    by BigAlinWashSt on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:42:59 PM PDT

  •  Great rant n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    Alumbrados, YucatanMan

    I deal in facts. My friends are few but fast.

    by Farugia on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:45:48 PM PDT

  •  Nose (4+ / 0-)

    nose... As in cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

    Will sit in the corner and hold your breath like I did when I was three years old because things weren't going well?

    As some says above...SCOTUS.

  •  well the next Republican President thanks you. (6+ / 0-)

    I don't.

    May the road rise up to meet you. May the wind be always at your back.

    by GlowNZ on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 08:48:29 PM PDT

  •  Of Course Not, Your Name is Rockefeller n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  I have a list of things I'm not happy about. (0+ / 0-)

    Some are Obama's fault, some the House or Senate but even if I thought I might not vote for him, and I'm sure I will, given the alternative, I wouldn't decide until the day of the election.

    Never close out an option unless forced too. You never know WTF's gonna happen. Sarah Palin and Pat Buchanan? Just sayin'.

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:00:59 PM PDT

  •  this (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Jack K, Bob Duck
    What is the bigger risk, another four years of a Republican in the White House? Or one more day in an America where we, the people, have no power over our party or our government?

    You think you're going to have any power with a Republican in the White House?  

    And you keep falsely repeating that SS, medicare, and medicaid was cut.  They weren't.  

    But we want to get to the same place. We just disagree on the how. --mmacdDE

    by glynis on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:02:53 PM PDT

    •  Rec'ed because you beat me to it...;) n/t (0+ / 0-)

      "In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upward mobile..." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

      by Jack K on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:21:14 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Are you not aware that SS, Medicare, and Medicaid (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      YucatanMan

      will be on the agenda in the "Super Congress", which will have such undemocratic powers and will be likely stacked in such a way that major cuts to all 3 will almost certainly be predetermined? That all it will take is one Blue Dog "compromising" with the Republicans for its recommendations to pass, and that the recommendations will be heavily if not entirely focused on cuts? That the Democrats will almost certainly be represented by Blue Dogs, as Obama will see to that as previously on the Catfood Commission? That the trigger was designed to be unattractive to Republicans to ensure that the Super Congress will come to an agreement on "cuts" w/no need of a trigger, as Mitch McConnell gloated about the other day?

      "It depends what the meaning of 'is', is"
      Platform of the "New" Neoliberal Democratic Party
      Speaking out of one side of their mouth for the little guy, their nominal constituency, and the other for the plutocracy, their real constituency.

      by Sanctimonious on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 12:48:27 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  So, when you die in poverty because of your stand (0+ / 0-)

    who are you going to blame then?

  •  Why not adopt the Tea Party's MO? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Bush Bites, tardis10

    Infiltrate the Democratic Party with 'Progressive Party' candidates and put into office people who are invested in the Progressive platform.

    Have your candidates pledge to uphold that platform. Make those promises public and shame them when they fail. Rally around them when they stand firm and deny them support or recall them when they don't (when laws allow it). Create your own Scott Browns and Michelle Bachmanns.

    Where the 'Progressive Party' lacks the big money, make up for it in people power. Look at what's happening in WI.

    Trump / Palin 2012: "You're Fired / I Quit"

    by MKSinSA on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:06:36 PM PDT

  •  Gotta confess that you need to explain this (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Sharon Wraight

    thought to me:

    But let me ask you a very important question you may not have considered: What is the bigger risk, another four years of a Republican in the White House? Or one more day in an America where we, the people, have no power over our party or our government?

    Help me out here.  I'm closing in on 60 years of age and have had Republicans in the White House most of my adult life.  Given that we, the people, have no power over our government when they are in control, just exactly where is the risk differential between your two supposedly opposite circumstances?  Please skip the part about "no power over our party", since "our party" also includes a list of Democratic Senators and Representatives over the last couple of years who have played a major role in getting us to the place we are now, but who seem so often to be conveniently forgotten in the rush to assign all blame to the current president for all that ails the Democratic party...

    "In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upward mobile..." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    by Jack K on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:17:25 PM PDT

  •  Happy, you are right that unconditional support of (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Sychotic1, bozepravde15, YucatanMan

    the left means that Democrats will continue to move right in an attempt to gain support of the "center" swing voter demographic.

    It is basic game theory- unconditional support is just about the worse thing that a voting block can do if they want to be represented in a democratic process whose outcome is determined by swing voters. The politicians will take their support for granted and adopt positions that pander to the conditional swing voters.

    Unfortunately, in America, the uncommitted swing voters are mostly people who ignore politics and spend a lot of time watching T.V. (aka idiots), hence the lure of money (for 30 second attack ads) and the undo influence of our corrupt media establishment- which actively encourages elected democrats to ignore the people who voted them into office.

    I put my faith in the people, But the people let me down. So I turned the other way And I carry on, anyhow - Rare Earth, I Just Want To Celebrate

    by Spiny on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:18:32 PM PDT

  •  I missed the Snark tag...[eom] (0+ / 0-)

    Mojo?!?! What mojo?

    by xopher on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 09:21:47 PM PDT

  •  Okay (2+ / 0-)
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    Bob Duck, virginislandsguy

    Do as you please.

    Me, I registered as a Democrat on my 18th birthday and I'm not going anywhere. I have voted for plenty of candidates who were imperfect in one way or another (starting with my first ballot, Mike Dukakis, and moving on through Bill Clinton, Al Gore and John Kerry) so there will be nothing new about next fall.

    Have a nice November 2012.

  •  Ok, you've been here since January (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Bob Duck, virginislandsguy

    and you've now decided that you can't support the only person running for president on the Democratic ticket.  
    Unless you intend on voting for a third party (not that you don't have that right), are we to assume that you plan on either (a) not voting (a repudiation of your citizenship duties) or (b) voting Republican.

    Make yourself clear.  Keep in mind that this site is devoted to electing more and better Democrats, so you might need to go somewhere else.  

    "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have little." FDR

    by dizzydean on Tue Aug 02, 2011 at 10:08:07 PM PDT

    •  Wow. Such a threatening tone - I'm sure (4+ / 0-)

      the diarist is scared! NOT. The diarist is clearly advocating SAVING the Democratic Party before it merges completely into the Republican Party and destroys what's left of its principles and American democracy. Try to think beyond your narrow, pre-programmed gatekeeper response; it represents what has gone wrong with the Democratic Party.

      "It depends what the meaning of 'is', is"
      Platform of the "New" Neoliberal Democratic Party
      Speaking out of one side of their mouth for the little guy, their nominal constituency, and the other for the plutocracy, their real constituency.

      by Sanctimonious on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 12:36:15 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Please provide demonstrative evidence (0+ / 0-)

      that the president advocates Democratic policies.

      Progress occurs when courageous, skillful leaders seize the opportunity to change things for the better. -- Harry S Truman

      by YucatanMan on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 01:15:07 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The thing is that if we let Obama go down then (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Bob Duck

    that means we will more than likely also loose the senate since we have 23 seats up for grabs while the republicans have only like 10 up.

    Also if we loose the WH and Senate then that means we wouldn't be winning back the house. so that means that we have total tea party republican control of our gov't.

    Not worth it.

    •  We're going to lose it anyway. The economy has (0+ / 0-)

      zero, zero, and zero chances of turning around by election time and the elections always swing on the economy.  After 4 years of 9% unemployment, 25% among the young, 25% among the 56-65 yos, 25% among Blacks, 20% among Latinos.... just how the hell is that a winning hand?

      Seriously. What will turn the economy around now that we have an "austerity budget"?  Consumer spending is now shrinking. Home values are Still Falling, thanks to the worthless rescue program. No one is hiring.  Government spending is being cut.

      Sure, corporations are making record profits, but they aren't sharing it. No raises. Not paying taxes. Not reinvesting in new equipment, capital expenditures or workforce.

      Show me how the economy will turn around, and I will believe the Democrats have a chance of holding onto the Senate or even a remote chance of winning the house, or even, indeed, the presidency.  Because it simply never has been done.  Not since FDR anyway and FDR was swinging away, fighting for the working folks and poorest folks in the country. No sign of this president doing anything about jobs on the horizon, despite the White House's new PR campaign that they'll work on jobs next.  And nothing to work with!

      Because the "bad deal" just set us up for more cuts in spending which will mean more unemployment, less consumption, less all around.  The Federal government was the last government not cutting back after all the states, counties and cities - and school districts - started piling on the layoffs.

      The economic condition is DIRE.  And this president goes on about how it is important to "balance the budget" something Bush never worried about and he utterly ignores the unemployed. Utterly.

      Progress occurs when courageous, skillful leaders seize the opportunity to change things for the better. -- Harry S Truman

      by YucatanMan on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 01:22:19 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Recommended because it's worthy discussion (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    bozepravde15, jlynne

    Disagree with some of this; agree with other parts.

    It's well thought out and worthy to talk about.

    And I will be voting for President Obama next year.

  •  Excellent diary (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    YucatanMan, jlynne

    Spot on

    "It depends what the meaning of 'is', is"
    Platform of the "New" Neoliberal Democratic Party
    Speaking out of one side of their mouth for the little guy, their nominal constituency, and the other for the plutocracy, their real constituency.

    by Sanctimonious on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 12:19:27 AM PDT

  •  Your upraters are violating policy... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    HGM MA

    thanks for showing your apathy and valueless opinion. You are irrelevant. If you do not vote, you deserve the shit-pile your country becomes. Have fun in your irrelevance, sir. Your voice is now inaudible in our democracy. You have rendered yourself useless.

    Breathe. If you can, you ain't dead yet.

    by Socratic Method on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 12:52:37 AM PDT

    •  My policy is to support Democrats. (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Aspe4, John Kelly

      Putting a "D" after your name doesn't make you a Democrat. Supporting the party platform and 60 years worth of Democratic policies and principles makes you a Democrat.  

      Since this president does not do so, I don't see any policy being violated.

      Progress occurs when courageous, skillful leaders seize the opportunity to change things for the better. -- Harry S Truman

      by YucatanMan on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 01:24:22 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Thought provoking diary - small quibble (2+ / 0-)
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    jlynne, cville townie

    Your diary is very thought provoking and is certainly worthy of reading and discussion.  I've "uprated" it for that reason.

    The quibble I have is that based on the information I have, Social Security and Medicare were not subject to cuts under this debt reduction agreement.  Indeed, while the prospects of cuts to many aspects of the government are dire and unwanted, the firewall was placed around those programs at least.

    What is more interesting though is according to an analysis by Leo Soderman, ( http://goo.gl/... )this deal while it looks like the massive cave, appears to have significant poison pills in it for the teahadists. There are major disincentives to reducing revenues and the sacred cows for republicans (Military spending) is the thing most at risk.  

    So, it may be possible that the President is simply being who he is and feels he needs to operate from a position of seeming weakness. Maybe it is kabukki theater.

    --Mr. President, you have to earn my vote every day. Not take it for granted. --

    by chipoliwog on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 01:27:53 AM PDT

    •  That's an interesting analysis (0+ / 0-)

      but it relies on a false equivalency, i.e., extending the tax cuts = spending.  That's just not true in Repub world.  So, they will simply cry "foul" and hold us hostage again.  Rinse, repeat.

      As to the additional loss of medicare providers - we simply can't afford that.  I already know too many people on Medicare who've lost their PCP because they no longer accept Medicare patients or the waiting list is close to forever.  

      "Rules must be binding. Violations must be punished. Words must mean something." President Obama in Prague on April 5

      by jlynne on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 02:02:06 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  2 things (0+ / 0-)

        It is the CBO that has defined tax cuts as spending.  Republicans can't do anything about it without "discrediting" the CBO which is "non-partisan".  

        I don't like the continual pressure on medicare providers either but I also sense a long view thing going on here.  Eventually, the market is going to give. The providers who vociferously opposed single payer will now start begging for it.  

        --Mr. President, you have to earn my vote every day. Not take it for granted. --

        by chipoliwog on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 08:05:44 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Actually no (0+ / 0-)

      The "firewall" only exists in the auto cuts that kick in if the Cat Superfood Commission fails to do their expected hatchet job on entitlements.

      Perhaps I should have done a diary about what a scam this super congress idea is first. But I assumed everyone understood we were being tricked.

      Make no mistake. This deal means cuts.

  •  only 92 (0+ / 0-)

    whew. only 92 people commented on this hot mess. so please now go over to redstate or free republic and profess your love for you republican savior.
    thanks,

    "This country was founded on compromise. I couldn't go through the front door at this country's founding" - President Barack Obama

    by AAMOM on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 03:40:08 AM PDT

  •  I Don't Vote for Republicans (0+ / 0-)

    whether they're members of the Democratic Party or members of the GOP. Good diary, tipped and recced.

    "The problem with posting quotes off the Internet is you never know if they're genuine."--Gen. George Washington at the Battle of Gettysburg, February 30, 1908

    by Aspe4 on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 04:22:28 AM PDT

  •  Kthksbai don't let door hit ur ass (0+ / 0-)

    Just in case you forgot today: REPUBLICANS VOTED TO END MEDICARE. AND THEY'LL DO IT AGAIN.

    by slippytoad on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 05:33:13 AM PDT

  •  I am SO FUCKING TIRED (0+ / 0-)

    of voting for the lesser evil it just makes me want to retch.

    I want to go back to believing in everything and knowing nothing at all.i>

    by Audri on Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 08:11:32 AM PDT

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