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Have you ever been picked on by a bully or bullies?  Have you ever had friends that were all picked on by the same bullies?  If you have, you might see some behavior at this site that fits what happens when you all are picked on by the same bullies.

It goes something like this.  When you are really far away from the bullies, you all talk a mean game about how you would defeat them in battle.  There's probably a fantasy element in it, whether or not you played any type of game.  It's easy to be tough when there is no one around.

On the other hand, when the bullies are close, do you stand together?  No.  Instead, you turn on each other.  Some of you have shied away before you even got near to school.  With your heads down, you attempt to disappear, hoping they won't notice you.  Which obviously doesn't work.  The other members, thinking they are brave, spends all their time yelling at the first group about how they would do it differently.  But they don't.  Their excuse is that they can't do it alone.  But that's not bravery they think they have.

What is going on at DK right now is the same thing.  There is one group we should be working together to deal with:  The Republicans.  Instead, we're fighting with each other.  I will admit, I don't like the fighting.  When I have to here in Texas, when I just cannot take the lies anymore, my heart races to about 130bpm just standing there reciting facts.  I'm not sure what I would do if someone physically approached me.

But yelling at me, or anyone on this site, does not make you brave.  It's easy to argue with people you mostly agree with, because supposedly we have so much in common that just one more argument will turn the other person.  But to what?  To agreeing with you 99.9% rather than 99.8%?  We already have a lot in common.

We have to fight the Republicans.  And this site, unlike almost any other site, has to become a place where we learn how to fight the Republicans.  I should be able to come here and find facts about what the Republicans are doing, and what they have done over the past 40 years to destroy our country.  I should be hearing stories about how someone successfully defeated a Republican lie.  I should be hearing about people trying to get elected to school boards, mayors, state legislatures, Congress, and the President that plan on advancing Democratic and Liberal goals.  And I should hear about how we were defeated, if we could have won it, and if so, what went wrong.  I want to know about the kinds of people that I should donate my meager money to.

The last 30 years have been rough on liberalism.  We have lost elections to people that get voted into government by proclaiming they hate government.  They are elected by people who hate unions and rail against them during their paid sick days while their 14 year old is at school rather than in a mine.  They drive across a bridge complaining about how government is spending their money on infrastructure rather than allowing the people to keep it.  People rail against government in their medicare, and eat steak at a restaurant while complaining about all of the rules set by the FDA.  It doesn't make sense, and I need help telling these people what they don't seem to understand.  We all need to be talking about this and figuring out how to talk about this.

I believe most people here love this country for what it could be.  At our highest we have the best dreams, the best ideals, and the best people.  We are far more tolerant than any other people.  We allow people to succeed.  We are responsible for each other.  And we understand that just because something is hard to do is no reason to not try.  The selfish money grabbers on the right have spent 30 years weakening that and weakening us.  We have to work together to make it better.

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  •  That's the trouble with the left. (2+ / 0-)
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    jan4insight, ParkRanger

    We spend more time and energy fighting among themselves than doing anything else.  It's unfortunate, but I can at least reassure you that it is no worse now than it has been in years past. I am old enough to remember 1968, and how that battle among the regular Democrats and the left Democrats turned out. It wasn't pretty that's for sure, and it led to 40 years of darkness.

  •  I'm sure it will be OK. (1+ / 0-)
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    trashablanca

    When the shrub was in office, we were all together in our disdain for the man. But it's easier to be united in hatred.

    Eventually, things will calm down. I hope.

    •  Which is why we'll all come together (2+ / 0-)
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      Luthien Tinuviel, amk for obama

      for the campaign. I 100% guarantee that we will hate the GOP nominee for president and VP, as well as most of their nominees for senate and House seats. We will hate them all so much that we will be convinced that it will be the end of the world if they get elected. And all of us will get fired up. I guarantee it.

      Don't tell me what you believe. And don't tell me what you do. I barely know you.

      by doc2 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 09:56:20 PM PDT

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      •  I'll take that bet...some of us will vote AGAINST (2+ / 0-)
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        blueoasis, GeeBee

        the GOP but I damn well will NOT campaign for Obama. You're on your own in 2012 and most of my activist friends are with me...

        I've spent the better part of 4 decades voting against the GOP for president.

        I voted for Obama, mostly against McCain.

        I will only actively work and donate for progressives...leaves Obama in the dust.

        Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and plain dealing.Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1841

        by SallyCat on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 10:05:03 PM PDT

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        •  All we really need is your vote, (0+ / 0-)

          not your support or money. We will have more than enough money and volunteers. But we need your vote, or at least we need for some of you people to vote (assuming you live in a purple state). If you live in a either a very blue or very red state, we don't even need your vote actually, not for president.

          Don't tell me what you believe. And don't tell me what you do. I barely know you.

          by doc2 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 10:12:50 PM PDT

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          •  I live in CA and my district votes 70% Dem (1+ / 0-)
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            neroden

            A whole lot of "negative nancies" in my neck of the woods. That's why we were the 2 or 3rd most productive GOTV call center for Obama in 2008...

            Don't want our efforts...and we know you don't want our money....Wall Street is paying for the campaign this time...

            Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and plain dealing.Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1841

            by SallyCat on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 10:20:21 PM PDT

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          •  No way am I voting for war criminal Obama. (0+ / 0-)

            And I've got about 5 other votes here in NY locked up for whatever third party there is -- and crucially, downticket.  But you don't need my vote.  

            Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

            by neroden on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 12:27:10 AM PDT

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            •  If you call him a war criminal (0+ / 0-)

              I don't think you are likely to be the kind of person that votes at all rationally anyhow. He never had a chance at your vote.

              Don't tell me what you believe. And don't tell me what you do. I barely know you.

              by doc2 on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 06:43:08 AM PDT

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        •  I think he better make it (1+ / 0-)
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          SallyCat

          a money back gaurantee.

          And all of us will get fired up. I guarantee it.
  •  We multi-task just fine...lots of us are (4+ / 0-)
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    nippersdad, WisePiper, blueoasis, neroden

    out campaigning for better democrats...that believe in democratic values.

    We can also take time to yell loud and strong when those values we believe in and fight for are trampled on by the 'leader' of the Democratic party.

    Lots of us can see the forest and the trees at the same time. So we will not sit quietly, in real life or on a blog.

    Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and plain dealing.Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1841

    by SallyCat on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 09:30:34 PM PDT

  •  I always found bullies to be much more easily (4+ / 0-)
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    SallyCat, Gooserock, blueoasis, neroden

    dealt with when one was holding a baseball bat and intended to use it in self defense. Something about speaking softly and carrying a big stick.

    This was something that Progressives used to understand implicitly before we were all enjoined to "just get along", to let bygones be bygones, to "look forward not back" whilst sweeping everything one cares for under a rug.

    Everyone despises a bully, but then everyone despises those who beg bullies to take their lunch money as well. Surely there is a middle course one could take?

    Individual misfortune is indispensible, "for private misfortunes make the public good, so that the more private misfortunes there are, the more everything goes well." Dr. Pangloss.

    by nippersdad on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 09:36:47 PM PDT

    •  Indeed. The two bully strategies. (2+ / 0-)
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      SallyCat, nippersdad

      (1) Report to the authorities.
      (2) If the authorities don't do what they're supposed to, respond to the bullies with credible threats of extreme violence (whether this requires weapons, or a group -- it may require neither), such that the bullies will get severely injured even if they succeed.

      Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

      by neroden on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 12:29:54 AM PDT

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  •  I Belong to a Union Not a Party (2+ / 0-)
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    SallyCat, neroden

    Just sayin'.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 09:46:48 PM PDT

  •  Absolutely. We are all here because we (0+ / 0-)

    hate modern Republicanism. All of us despise it, detest it. And that is why that very soon we are going to have to get into campaign mode and put aside our petty grievances. Barack Obama will be our man, and even those amongst us who are disappointed in him will have to get on board, because they despise the GOP just as much as I do. So the Negative Nancies should get their negativism out of their systems, soon, because I don't want to hear any more of that shit as we go to the mattresses.

    Don't tell me what you believe. And don't tell me what you do. I barely know you.

    by doc2 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 at 09:54:25 PM PDT

    •  Fight Republican Barack Obama. (0+ / 0-)

      Yes, we will eventually have to unite to fight the Republicans, including Barack Obama.  It may take a while for some to realize what's really going on.  Like you.

      Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

      by neroden on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 12:28:09 AM PDT

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      •  Give it up dude. (0+ / 0-)

        I've watched Obama for 4 years now and am just as thrilled to vote for him as ever. That ain't gonna change one year from now. Multiply me by 45 million people or so and you'll understand the automatic vote Obama gets in 2012 even without appealing to less enthusiastic Democrats and Independents. It must be killing you that he is still revered by so many, that he still inspires so many tens of millions. This man you despise so much.

        Don't tell me what you believe. And don't tell me what you do. I barely know you.

        by doc2 on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 06:49:27 AM PDT

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  •  Just plain old bullshit, this diary. (2+ / 0-)
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    GeeBee, SallyCat

    Well, maybe it's not, I don't know.  

    What I do know is how I dealt with bullies.  And I didn't act remotely the way you described.

    So, if you want to condemn the jackasses who talked a big game and then cowered when push came to shove?  Go ahead.  But some of us aren't like that.  Perhaps it's a genetic thing.

    Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

    by neroden on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 12:26:15 AM PDT

    •  I have to agree, while this diary certainly tells (1+ / 0-)
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      SallyCat

      me something about the diarist that is where it begins and ends.

      ...when the bullies are close, do you stand together?  No.  Instead, you turn on each other.  Some of you have shied away before you even got near to school.  With your heads down, you attempt to disappear, hoping they won't notice you.

      LOL...all I'm getting from this is a mental picture of him/her and their friends maybe being tormented and learning to hide from the bullies in grade school/ high school.

  •  i hated bullies. i was small and fat for most of (0+ / 0-)

    my early school years. i was bully bait supreme. then one summer i "got my growth" as it were. instead of payback i made friends of all the others who were currently "paying the price" of not being cool.
    we formed a loose coalition of friends who shared ideas and wanted only to get thru school in one piece.

    the idea of being angry was too easy. i chose instead the idea of being proactive.

    peace and love to you all.

    "Calm down? Dude, I'm fucking shot, a ground beef patty attacked my face, and I'm going to break out now because you poured olive oil on me."

    by Ramdove on Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 03:24:56 AM PDT

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