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This is a David and Goliath story. I started calling the Apple Story to complain about their new campaign back in July.The promotion went like this:

Do you own an original iPad that you no longer need (pfft, original iPads are so 2010), but have no plans to resell? Apple may have a solution for you: the company has begun promoting a new donation program that will put old iPads to good use through the Teach for America program.

Teach for America takes well-trained teachers—referred to as "corps  members"—and places them in one of 39 urban and rural regions across the  country that are identified as low-income. The volunteers agree to  teach in those areas for two years with the goal of providing a  higher-quality education to low-income students. And, according to Teach  for America's website, recent research shows that its corps members are "more effective than other teachers, including certified and veteran teachers."

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Misinformation about the campaign was plastered all over the Apple website -- lie after lie -- and also at the Teach for America website.  I was incensed.  I called Apple.

After being passed around on the phone from one corporate office to another, I finally asked Jerry in marketing if Apple knew that Teach for America recruits weren't really teachers -- that their claim of "Teach for America takes well-trained teachers—referred to as "corps  members"— was completely false, and that the campaign was deceptive.  I said it would be great if Apple  were offering donated iPads to real teachers, but the company is misleading donors when it tells them their donation will go to a Teach for America "teacher."

The marketing guy then said this.  "We paint with a broad brush when we use the term teacher."  He said he considered himself a teacher because he taught people stuff sometimes.  I asked him if he had studied to become a teacher or if he had ever taught in a classroom.  He said "no."  Then you are not a professional teacher I said.  I went on to say I thought the campaign was a fraud and that Apple was giving legitimacy to an organization proven to do real harm to children.  He said my complaint would be noted.

Over the next few weeks I talked to other teachers about Apple's promotion of TFA, especially when I went to the Save Our Schools March.  We should protest I said.  Parents Across America in Seattle was the first to organize.

An Apple a Day for TFA:
 

Portlanders were readying to protest next.  EXCEPT . . . this is the e-mail message I sent to my group shortly before the demonstration was to take place.

Hello TFA protesters:

I spent the past few days being passed around to from one Apple corporate office to another trying to get more information about the campaign. I asked specifically how long the TFA displays would be up and was told through September. I was told repeatedly by Apple that the TFA campaign was an ongoing thing and would continue as long as people wanted to give up their iPads.  I also investigated the legalities of having a protest at the mall. Imagine my surprise when I went to the mall to talk to the appropriate contact about our protest and noticed the entire display had been removed.

So I asked a Genius why the display had been taken down.  He didn't know.  He said usually they are told beforehand when one campaign ends and another begins, but they had just come to work and the display was gone. He tried to access information on the internet and got this -- access denied: http://www.teachforamerica.org/...  The campaign main page still exists here http://www.apple.com/... but all the supporting information about the program has been removed.

The next day all evidence of the TFA promotion was removed from both the Apple and TFA websites.  Just like it never happened. You can still find evidence of it on other sites.

I don't know why Apple decided to end the campaign so abruptly.  I want think it was because a small group of people challenged them on a program that was truly indefensible and reprehensible. One battle at a time will win this war against teachers and public education. The fat cats are vulnerable when they think their deceitfulness and lunacy may be exposed to the greater public. I'll take this small victory. I'm claiming it as a success.

 Also posted at Great Schools for America.

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  •  The unintended consequence (10+ / 0-)

    is that those poor children will never learn how to iSynchronize their iTunes Store app with their nano-iPod using their iPad.  They will be totally unprepared for the business world.

  •  former teacher here--- (13+ / 0-)

    "those who can....teach."

    i'm so friggin sick and tired of all of 'em who think--
    without any training, education, experience---
    "gee!  i could do that!   Anyone could do that!

    as if...

    •  and those who can't teach pass laws re: education (10+ / 0-)

      that are impractical and impossible to implement.

      •  Yes, coming to a state legislature near (2+ / 0-)
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        you. As if the NCLB federal law wasn't bad enough, Bill Gates and his buddies are blackmailing state legislatures to pass laws that will make it easier to hire TFA and create more corporate charter schools for TFAers to run.

        Not everything that can be counted counts. Not everything that counts can be counted. Albert Einstein

        by annie em on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 08:29:30 AM PDT

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        •  For all the Republican whining about"temporary fix (0+ / 0-)

          you would thnk they realize Teach for America will only last for two years, at best before they have to go out an recruit the next batch of college kids willing to donate two years of service to schools.  TFA so-called teachers with theie little five week course to equip them to teach will be on to jobs that pay real money and the next batch may be a little smarter about what they are giving away..

    •  It just reminds me of when (11+ / 0-)

      I used to play in a band in bars and at CYO dances many years ago. You take a break every hour, and while you're on break, you're getting something to drink or hitting the men's room or whatever, and people wander around near the stage.

      I played bass guitar - nobody ever touches a bass guitar, or a six-string guitar. But if you don't watch carefully, someone always goes behind the drum kit and picks up a stick and starts banging, or even sits down and bangs away on the whole set.

      After we'd rescue the drum set from the interloper(s), our drummer would just shake his head and say, "Everybody thinks they're a drummer", to which the lead guitarist always replied, "But they're usually a beat off."

      Most people who, without any training or experience (beyond sleeping through classes, I assume) thinks they can teach or even expound on education is in the same league as the drunks who thought they were drummers. They don't know how to do it, they don't recognize they don't know how to do it, they're more likely to do damage than good, and usually they're a beat off.

      If my thought-dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine

      by badger on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 11:05:18 PM PDT

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      •  Nice analogy. Now if someone would (1+ / 0-)
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        just tell Obama, Duncan, and the billionaires  who support the fakers, that would be great!

        Not everything that can be counted counts. Not everything that counts can be counted. Albert Einstein

        by annie em on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 07:26:49 AM PDT

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    •  Can "anyone" deal with the parents on back (3+ / 0-)
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      to school night who want to question every aspect of the first two weeks of school? Or who want justification for the value of the homework? Or who want to know why class time is wasted on learning about chess?

      "Pretty soon we're not going to be able to find reasonable decent people who are willing to subject themselves to serving public office." Sheriff Dupnik, AZ

      by voracious on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 12:08:57 AM PDT

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      •  Well, that's pretty much me (1+ / 0-)
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        (and my wife).

        I don't wait for back-to-school/open house, though. I schedule times to meet with the principal and teachers at a mutually convenient time. Not that "mutually convenient" is really so, because I know that the teachers and staff are very busy, so we're probably worse offenders than those who wait. It's not that we question everything, but we do make sure that our concerns are addressed early, so that we aren't asked later "Why didn't you tell me?" or hear "I wish that I had known."

        Homework? I don't like homework for little kids any more than I like grades for them (kids are in pre-K, 1st, and 3rd), but I understand that a lot of kids simply won't progress if they aren't given assignments that they're expected to complete. We have our kids do it sedulously, though I'm not quite supportive of doing work at home that can be done at school. Still, we don't protest in any way about the assignments and get 100% of them done, 100% on time. (The schools work with us, we support them in whatever way we can.)

        And chess in school, yeah, I don't get that, but they don't offer it in my kids' schools. If they offered it after school I might have my kids attend, but maybe not. I thought of starting the chess club at my boys' school but I'd get there too late after work...

        We must use what we have
        to build what we need. -Adrienne Rich

        by Xapulin on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 07:40:24 AM PDT

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    •  Those who can, do. (2+ / 0-)
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      Those who did, should teach.

      Those who never did or never taught, are ignorant and they should learn.  But unfortunately, instead of learning, they militantly embrace their ignorance and become teabaggers.

      While I don't hold Obama in high esteem, that doesn't mean I would say he's the Devil Incarnate and the lessor of evils. He is merely the lessee of evils.

      by xynz on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 02:23:39 AM PDT

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    •  Amen! (0+ / 0-)

      Not everything that can be counted counts. Not everything that counts can be counted. Albert Einstein

      by annie em on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 07:23:43 AM PDT

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  •  Thanks for your efforts... (4+ / 0-)
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    I cant believe what Apple was doing, had no idea. And that guy on the phone who said "We paint with a broad brush when we use the term teacher." Unreal!

    Anyways good work. Im glad they got rid of this campaign. Teachers have been catching crap left and right by corp America and its got to stop.

    "Patients are not consumers" - Paul Krugman

    by assyrian64 on Tue Sep 13, 2011 at 11:18:17 PM PDT

  •  Stop the Hate (8+ / 0-)

    Not sure why you people feel so threatened by TFA.  Most of the TFA people I know are left leaning.  These people are not your enemies.  They are people who care about this country and want to make it better.  There is a lot of misinformation in this post. My brother did TFA.  They go through more than 5 weeks of training.  They have training throughout their years and many of them earn a masters in education during their time.  They generally teach at places that are les desirable.  The goal of TFA is not to make teachers, necessarily.  A lot of TFA people go on to other careers, but the idea is that they will become advocates for education reform through their respective careers.  TFA is not there to destroy "real" teachers and shut down public education.  

    •  Why the Hatred for Teach for America? (7+ / 0-)

      I totally agree with zachviking and am amazed at the continuing disdain for Teach for America shown on this site.   I have been a college professor for three decades, and have taught hundreds of students who became teachers.  Two of my own children became teachers, one through a traditional university education program, and one through the Teach for America summer institute.  Whereas the traditional university education department training takes much longer, with the number of required education courses from professors who might not have taught in public schools for decades, if ever, those in the Teach for America program spent as many, if not more, hours in front of students during their training period as do future teachers who are earning an education degree.  In most cases, TFA trainees receive more frequent and thorough evaluations on their teaching than do more education majors.  TFA continues to monitor, evaluate, and supervise their graduates once they become full-time teachers, some which virtually no university education department does for their graduates.

      Teach for America is incredibly competitive, with the result being that TFA graduates are generally brighter, have a higher undergraduate GPA, are more idealistic, and yes, more progressive, than most of their peers who majored in education on the undergraduate level.    Having these young people voluntarily teaching in some of the worst schools in America, when many could easily be earning six figures annually on Wall Street or continuing their education in law, medical, or graduate school, is something which should be praised, not being the source of derision.

    •  The disdain against Teach For America here really (5+ / 0-)
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      opened my eyes to the progressive movement and those who hide under its coat.  This is no way to treat the young generation of smart, young, and highly motivated individuals with strong progressive ideals.

      TFA teachers are the first to be let go and laid off in a budget crisis.  They aren't here to steal your jobs.  They are here to fill a vast shortage of qualified teachers in our urban school districts.  To spit on TFA teachers like that is simply monstrous.

    •  Right on! (2+ / 0-)
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      After all, if Michelle Pfeiffer and Edward James Olmos can teach a bunch of at-risk, inner city youth and get all of them to pass the Advanced Placement Calculus Exam, then all it really takes is the right plucky, idealistic college graduate and a copy of Bob Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man".  Clearly, training has nothing to do with it.

    •  More Kool-aid? TFA bashes teachers, and (0+ / 0-)

      does real harm to children. Amateurs cost school districts tons more than a regular teacher.  Read "Learning on Other People's Children" by Barbara Velltri.

      Not everything that can be counted counts. Not everything that counts can be counted. Albert Einstein

      by annie em on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 07:31:31 AM PDT

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    •  TFA does damage to kids and (0+ / 0-)

      cost tax payers hundreds of millions. They are a teacher bashing organization.  They take jobs from professional teachers. They lie about their mission and their success.  they victimize recent college grads and our poorest children of color.  Just ask the children of New Orleans as I have.

      Not everything that can be counted counts. Not everything that counts can be counted. Albert Einstein

      by annie em on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 08:35:16 AM PDT

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  •  My wife was a TFA teacher in Houston (9+ / 1-)

    She woke up every morning at 4am to rehearse her lesson plans, went to bed at 11pm grading homework. She chased after social workers to make sure a student got the medical attention he needed.  She called parents about troubled students, even visited their homes to discuss when the parents didn't have transportation handy.  In four years, she brought up the pass rate of her 8th grade science class by 36 percentage points, singlehandedly stopped dozens of her students from joining gangs.  

    My wife graduated magna cum laude at a top 10 college on a full scholarship and felt that it was her duty to repay her debt to society.  

    I find this diary offensive and petty; it goes against the very spirit of what makes this country and its people great.  

    •  Tell your wife, I thank her for her service (2+ / 1-)
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      I wish I could have that kind of commitment and dedication.  Few do.  Many people here write on progressive blogs and think they are contributing, but they are only deceiving themselves.  It's not teacher's unions vs TFA, it's what you do with the time you have that counts.  The high school like groupie mentality displayed in this diary sickened me as well.  

      •  Same to you- HR'd for the donut abuse. (0+ / 1-)
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        You can appreciate someone else's service and values without denigrating the beliefs and values of others.  

        Yes we can, but he won't.

        by dkmich on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 02:14:42 AM PDT

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      •  You really don't understand (0+ / 0-)

        the mentality behind TFA.  Do some research.  TFA is a jobs program for the children of the elite.  A stepping stone on their way to a real job.  Wendy Kopp herself admits TFA is not about teaching.  It's about her choosing the leaders of tomorrow.  

        Not everything that can be counted counts. Not everything that counts can be counted. Albert Einstein

        by annie em on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 07:35:50 AM PDT

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    •  Hr'd for HR abuse. (0+ / 1-)
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      I don't care what you find this diary.  Have you not been paying attention to what is HRable - per Kos.   Or, do you just have no respect for anybody but yourself.

      Yes we can, but he won't.

      by dkmich on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 02:13:08 AM PDT

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      •  What on earth is HRable in Naus comment? (2+ / 0-)
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        nt

        •  Nothing. Retaliatory HR for the (1+ / 0-)
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          tip jar HRs. It's funny that in a diary ostensibly about the value of education posters can't make a point with the force of their logic or the strength of their thinking, but resort to hitting.

          We must use what we have
          to build what we need. -Adrienne Rich

          by Xapulin on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 07:46:42 AM PDT

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      •  we need well trained teachers who will stay (1+ / 0-)
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        The question is what did your wife do after 4 years?  Statistics show that 50% leave the profession by the 5th year, just as they are becoming truly effective teachers.   If she left the profession, that means her school was left with a brand new teacher with no skills to muddle his/her way through a first year with no support from anyone.  This profession and, by extension, public school students do not need a revolving door with teachers coming and going every two years.

        Being bright and idealistic doesn't make you a great, good, or even mediocre teacher.  Apple's statement that TFA teachers were better than trained and experienced teachers is completely unsubstantiated.  

        In fact, when Michelle Rhee was a TFA teacher, she taped her student mouths shut.  TFA should have permanently removed her from the program.  However, the lack of supervision that TFA provides is a longstanding and well documented problem.

        I also love the idea of the "college professor" being replaced by 2 adjuncts.  Most have the same degrees and credentials.   if that were to happen, maybe s/he would see the problem in a different light.

    •  I don't disparage TFAers because they (0+ / 0-)

      are victims just like the kids they teach.  Still doesn't make it right.

      Not everything that can be counted counts. Not everything that counts can be counted. Albert Einstein

      by annie em on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 07:33:00 AM PDT

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  •  Kudos to Apple for being responsive (0+ / 0-)

    Assuming they were.  Not every company would be.

    Intelligent, passionate, perceptive people will always disagree, but we should not let that disagreement, however heartfelt, lead us to become deaf to those better angels of our nature.

    by Mindful Nature on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 01:33:26 AM PDT

  •  Good for you for sticking up for teachers. (3+ / 1-)
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    They spend a lot of time and money for the privilege of being abused, working OT without pay, and buying supplies and equipment out of their own money.

    I cannot believe the asses that HR'd your tip jar.   Tip and a Rec. for standing up for yourself and a much maligned and under appreciated profession.

    Yes we can, but he won't.

    by dkmich on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 02:10:53 AM PDT

  •  Will you follow up and see that those i-pads get (0+ / 0-)

    donated to other teachers and to other kids?

  •  It's ridiculous to see TFA as the evil wedge... (7+ / 0-)

    ...of the anti-public-education offensive.  TFA is a weak palliative, and like many palliatives you can make a decent case that it does more harm than good "writ large" (by reducing the immediate pressure for systemic change), but the idea that it devalues teachers and teaching or that it's a nefarious form of privatization doesn't ring true at all.  And since one of the reasons for our society's indifference to the poor is that people who are poor and those who aren't have relatively (or absolutely) little meaningful interaction, a program like TFA that takes mostly well-off young people and puts them in marginalized schools is almost certainly a good thing.

    If you hate TFA you might as well hate Americorps or the Peace Corps, which are structurally very similar, especially the latter.  And it's OK to hate those things, but that's part of a larger critique that's probably too maximalist for most of us.  It reminds me of the Peruvian Maoists who blew up the trucks carrying milk to poor children, because that kind of palliative only permitted the unjust system to continue.  Well, yeah, but still.

    The Rent Is Too Damn High Party feels that if you want to marry a shoe, I'll marry you. --Jimmy McMillan

    by Rich in PA on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 04:44:16 AM PDT

    •  I don't hate TFA (2+ / 0-)
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      I merely think it is an overrated, ineffective program that has become the darling of bright college graduates who often don't know what they want to do with their lives.    

      Just because someone has experienced a classroom, doesn't mean they know anything about teaching.  How about LFA (Lawyers For America)?   I know about laws - I have to obey them every day of my life.  Or JFA, Journalists For America - I can write, been doing it my whole life.

      Why do people think you can train a teacher in 6 weeks?  That is a lot of bunk.  My son entered a two year program at Teacher's College, Columbia University after one year of teaching because he realized he didn't know enough about curriculum, instruction, and teaching a classroom full of students who do not have English language skills, who come to school hungry, or who have learning disabilities - along with a bunch of your run of the mill kids.  At least he knew what he didn't know and took responsible steps to make sure he has the appropriate skills to do the job well.  And he's a keeper for the profession.

      •  Most of us who are lawyers (3+ / 0-)
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        recognize that law school is not very good at teaching you how to practice law.    It's pretty clear that at least half to a third of the experience is irrelevant and the whole thing might be better replaced by a different form of training.

        I would suspect that the same might be true in other professions.

        If you want to propose replacing law school with something shorter you may get a surprising amount of support from lawyers.

        •  Law school is a gatekeeper, and that's all it is. (1+ / 0-)
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          It's designed to keep the numbers down, relatively of course, to keep salaries up.  I'm kind of happy to see that it's not working any more.

          The Rent Is Too Damn High Party feels that if you want to marry a shoe, I'll marry you. --Jimmy McMillan

          by Rich in PA on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 05:52:20 AM PDT

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      •  There's always a personal angle to these critiques (3+ / 0-)
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        It's always me or my kid or my spouse and they spent more time and money and so forth.  I get that, but they're in it as a career.  TFA folks are in it to fill gaps for a couple of years.  This gets back to the palliative thing--sure, every TFA quasi-teacher is a stopgap that keeps us from confronting the systemic issues.  But where's the evidence that our country will be confronting those systemic issues in the immediate, medium, or far futures?  Who, realistically, will be teaching these children if not TFA rich kids?  

        I wouldn't press the JFA thing too far, by the way.  I don't think MA journalism programs are much more than fancy gatekeeping schemes.

        The Rent Is Too Damn High Party feels that if you want to marry a shoe, I'll marry you. --Jimmy McMillan

        by Rich in PA on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 05:51:21 AM PDT

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    •  Wendy Kopp says TFA is like (0+ / 0-)

      the Peace Corps but nothing could be further from the truth. Saying it doesn't make it so.  I've written about the TFA Peace Corps myth many times before. Teach for America ivy leaguers do get Americorps funding on top of a regular teacher's salary -- a gross misuse of taxpayer dollars.  Regular teachers who have chosen to make teaching their career have no access to such funding.

      Not everything that can be counted counts. Not everything that counts can be counted. Albert Einstein

      by annie em on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 08:42:15 AM PDT

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  •  Do you hate Doctors without Borders, too? (1+ / 0-)
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    After all, it's just a holding pad for bright, energetic,  motivated young adults who want to help people in developing countries, but  have no intention of staying there for the rest of their lives.
    And it obviously weakens fledgling democracies,  NGO's and other organizations that are filled with permanent, professional folk.
    Those Doctors Without Borders-- nothing but elitist,  spoiled brats who don't know what they really want to do for a living. How dare they experiment on citizens of developing countries?!
    In fact, I heard that one of the pharmaceutical companies was giving free vaccines for various tropical diseases to Doctors Without Borders members, and I screamed about it and threatened to raise a ruckus until they stopped.
    Sheesh. What is wrong with you people? If a bright kid wants to teach, let him.

    Goldman Sachs was not elected.

    by bornadem on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 08:07:45 AM PDT

    •  Doctors without Borders (1+ / 0-)
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      are actually doctors.  They aren't recent college grads with 5 weeks of training by people who know nothing about medicine.

      I notice your tag line is "Goldman Sachs was not elected."  GS is a major funder of TFA and employs many of TFAers after the obligatory two year teaching gig. TFA is a fast track to a position of leadership with Eli Broad, Bill Gates, the Waltons, and others choosing who get the jobs.  Your right, Goldman Sachs was not elected, but they are choosing who our next leaders will be.

      Not everything that can be counted counts. Not everything that counts can be counted. Albert Einstein

      by annie em on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 08:47:47 AM PDT

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      •  Fine- use whatever program you want (2+ / 0-)
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        Substitute  "Peace Corps" or "Jesuit Fellows" or "VISTA". It doesn't matter.  Those are good programs that help those who need it. So is TFA.

        When I was in law school I worked at a legal clinic for two semesters and a summer. I wasn't a lawyer yet, and I most decidedly didn't plan on permanently doing SSI disability appeals or unemployment insurance denials. I was allowed to represent clients because of a special program the state had set up. I hadn't had any experience, we went through a VERY short training program.

         Did I help people get their rightful disability payments--yes. Did it make a huge difference in their lives, yes it honestly  did. Did I do it as well as an experienced, actually licensed lawyer, of course not.  But no one wanted to take those cases. They weren't worth it to a licensed attorney. My law school knew that a bunch of smart  second-year law students with a ton of energy, enthusiasm  and a willingness to take on cases that the experienced, trained and licensed lawyers wouldn't or couldn't tackle would help  the clients and the law clinic students.  
         I'm sure those lawyers grumbled about a bunch of no-nothing law students taking up a lot of court docket time that they should have been the only ones entitled to.

        I don't see how TFA is any different.

        Goldman Sachs was not elected.

        by bornadem on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 09:31:45 AM PDT

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        •  You dont see why TFA is any different (1+ / 0-)
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          because you choose to believe the hype which is paid for by the Billionaire Boys who launched an extensive marketing campaign to make TFA look legitimate.  Te research, real research not paid for by Gates, Broad, and other of the richest guys who like to dabble in education shows that TFAers and other untrained teachers like them do real harm to kids.  

          Just because someone may have gotten an Ivy League degree in something other than education, doesn't make them a teacher.  Think of GW Bush trying to teach your child to read or do math.  I don't think so.

          Not everything that can be counted counts. Not everything that counts can be counted. Albert Einstein

          by annie em on Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 12:03:21 PM PDT

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  •  A math set problem: The Set Of Kopp Kipp Kriminals (0+ / 0-)

    pulling the $tring$ so they can live high on the hog excel at marketing their venality because they actually do some good in some places.

    Does Wendy & her hubby get to live as well as Wendy's Princeton cla$$mate$ in Manhattan, working on this place called Wall street? NO! By the measures of Wall Street, Wendy & Hubby $ure are $acrificing.  Look up Wendy's pay on TFA's 990s through Guidestar.

    The next Set of players are the masters of doublethink doing the $tring pullers bidding. IF you dig around in the backgrounds of each set, you'll find all kind$ of common $ocail cla$$ experience$, and now that TFA has tens of millions a year to spend, TFA can keep the $ocial cla$$ of string pullers and double thinkers living the life$tyle$ they're accustomed to.

    Not only are 'the rich different from you and me', these next layer down sets of aspiring rich are different from you and me.

    A key set of players are those toady underlings working to break into the first 2 sets - the muscle who spend their time attacking those who call bullshit.

    (My name is Robert Murphy, from Seattle, dear Toadies.)

    Another set of key players is the HUGE set of people who work just work hard and who try hard and who aren't aspiring toadies and who are trying to do something decent - sadly, their good natures are being taken advantage of so the Kopp Kipp Kriminals can live fat -

    oh, by the way - a few decent things happen to happen along the way.

    rmm.

    p.s.

    I rode in a 737 to Phoenix from Seattle this summer ... Southwest should let me fly that sucker next time! Today  I turned on a light switch ... I think I want to design an electric grid after I drive that 737!

    Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much: such men are dangerous

    by seabos84 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 at 11:03:27 AM PDT

  •  A blog response (0+ / 0-)

    I wrote this on my blog, Blogging NOLA, I think it is an adequate response to this foolishness.

    I decided to post it here too.
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    News nerds, like myself, sometimes like to set up Google News Alerts for various things important to themselves. My Teach For America news alerts let me know each day what newspapers and websites are talking about TFA across the nation. I highly suggest this for people too lazy to actually type words into Google.

    Imagine my surprise when I see TFA pop up on Daily Kos – the venerable elder statesman of the liberal blogosphere. Even more interesting, this blog post was specifically titled “Defeating Teach for America at the Apple Store — A Small Victory.” Of course, this post is referencing Apple’s recent donation of thousands of iPads to TFA teachers across the country.

    The rest of the post is one person’s rant against the perceived affront to education that Apple, a private company, has perpetuated by donating refurbished versions of its product to a non-profit. I will have to let you read this rant, plus watch a really informative video, on your own because I flat-out refuse to spend the time quoting and analyzing this pile of junk.

    There is one quote I need to pull out and emphasize. While on her quest, this blogger quixotically called Apple to inform them that their "campaign was a fraud and that Apple was giving legitimacy to an organization proven to do real harm to children." (Emphasis mine)

    You are allowed to rant via blog. This is about what 90% of the internet is all about. Unfortunately, I MUST respond to the statement that TFA is PROVEN to do REAL harm to children. Without providing any evidence to support her claim she lets this ridiculousness underlie the entire premise of her rant, therefore invalidating any sort of argument she is attempting to make.

    As a quick response... I want to go over a sample of four studies, amongst many, that refute the idea that TFA does HARM to students. I will start with an opinion (like I teach my children) and then back it up with evidence (like I teach my children).

    Teach For America does not harm children. My evidence...

    1) From Tennessee - a study that shows TFA teachers often outperform veteran teachers in many subjects.

    2) From the American Educational Research Association - a study showing the retention of TFA teachers in their placement schools.

    3) From the Urban Institue - a study that shows TFA teachers are more effective, on average, than TFA teachers in most subjects - especially math and science.

    4) From Harvard - a study showing that the characteristics screen for in the TFA selection process have a measurable impact on student achievement.

    I am sorry Daily Kos diarist, you may have free rein to rant and post ridiculous YouTube videos, which probably took up valuable lesson planning time, but you are not allowed to your own ridiculous and unsubstantiated facts.

    Posted from my (TFA) iPad.

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