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Via The Hill:
The House on Friday approved legislation that would set up an interagency committee charged with assessing the impact of Environmental Protection Agency rules on U.S. economic competitiveness, and also delay two EPA rules until that analysis is complete.

Democrats railed against the bill throughout debate on Thursday and Friday, saying it represents the latest attempt by Republicans to advance an anti-environment agenda. But Republicans said the bill would not block any rule indefinitely, and that some economic assessment of EPA rules is needed in light of the increasing frequency of these rules under the Obama administration.

The partisan split over the so-called TRAIN Act — Transparency in Regulatory Analysis of Impacts on the Nation, H.R. 2401 — was seen in the 249-169 mostly party-line vote for the bill. It was supported by 19 Democrats, some of whom come from coal-producing states that have recoiled against various environmental rules.

Four Republicans also voted "nay"—the full roll call is here. The Environmental Defense Fund explains just how awful this bill is:

Among its other potential dangers, this bill would indefinitely delay two critical clean air standards -- the Mercury and Air Toxics Standard and the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule.

We need these two standards to reduce the pollution spewed from power plants, including mercury, soot, cancer-causing dioxins and acid gases.

Every year these important safeguards are delayed, Americans will suffer up to 25,300 premature deaths due to toxic air pollution–and once again, they could be delayed indefinitely. Delaying the standards will also cause tens of thousands more heart attacks, asthma attacks and hospital stays.

Fortunately for us, this looks like more of the usual kabuki governance we've grown used to from the House GOP. The bill is already dead-on-arrival in the Senate and in the unlikely event that space aliens steal Harry Reid's brain, the president has threatened to veto it. So yet another day wasted on a nasty, destructive piece of legislation whose only purpose is to allow Republicans to demonstrate their fealty to their corporate masters.

Originally posted to David Nir on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 11:27 AM PDT.

Also republished by Moving Planet and Daily Kos.

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  •  EPA already does (9+ / 0-)

    economic impact analyses on regulations which are peer reviewed and subject to public notice and comment.  Everything from health, jobs, best available technology goes through a cost-benefit analysis.  This bill is utter bullshite.

    Vi er alle norske " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 11:32:06 AM PDT

    •  Peer Review is Core of the Problem They Have (4+ / 0-)
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      mungley, Bob Love, gchaucer2, DawnN

      with the process.

      Everything requires CEO review. (While there is still any government passing any economic policy at all.)

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 11:56:32 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  The cost of the CAIR bill (4+ / 0-)
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      gchaucer2, r2did2, Amber6541, DawnN

      $2B.

      The benefit?  $200B-$1T in health care savings from better respiratory health.

      That is in the justification for the rule.  This rule has been in the making since the middle part of Bush's regime.

      The Republicans cannot kill these rules by any credible cost-benefit analysis, but of course the word credible doesn't ever occur to them.

      "Don't dream it, be it" - Brad, Janet and Frank

      by captainlaser on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 01:17:16 PM PDT

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  •  people are not dying quickly enough (12+ / 0-)

    from lack of health care, they need to be made sicker.

    Republicans are a toxic pollutant, maybe EPA should look into regulating them.

  •  looking at the roll call (2+ / 0-)
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    mungley, Bob Love

    it's all the moderate to conservative dems + TERRI SEWELL.

    what's she doing there? maybe we need a primary

    18, D, new CA-18 (home) new CA-13 (college). Economic liberal, social libertarian, fiscal conservative. Put your age and CD here :) -.5.38, -3.23

    by jncca on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 12:14:55 PM PDT

  •  From the name I thought it might be about trains (2+ / 0-)
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    Amber6541, splashy

    I suppose something relating to mass transit was too much to hope for from the Republican congress. It turns out the TRAIN act stands for training one's lungs to inhale greater amounts of pollutants.

  •  "Another worthless bureaucratic committee (3+ / 0-)
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    captainlaser, Amber6541, DawnN

    we don't need and can't afford".

    "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

    by Bob Love on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 01:02:23 PM PDT

  •  All Aboard the Herman Cain Train!!! (0+ / 0-)

    Or is that Teh Crazy Train?

    Or is there a difference?

    Umm, that's PRESIDENT Obama and SENATOR Franken, mr. o'reilly.

    by filby on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 01:03:27 PM PDT

  •  It's the anti-China outsourcing act (0+ / 0-)

    I know a lot of you refuse to admit this, but China has virtually zero environmental regulations and basically lets companies get away with murder.  So when we set high standards and China sets low standards, that's where the jobs go.

    Why do we have 10% unemployement?  Because of outsourcing.
    Why are we facing a global recession because of massive trade imbalances?  Because of Outsourcing.
    Why are Republicans massively cutting social spending?  Because we don't have the revenue to support it with all the unemployment caused by outsourcing.

    So since this site is still running in the globalist, no tariff, free trade mindset that the CEOs want, then you have to realize that this is the rest of the equation.

    No tariffs and free trade means the jobs and factories go where ever they are absolutely cheapest to operate.  Want strict environmental rules?  Then put tariffs in place, or sit back and watch the rest of the jobs go overseas.

    Explain to me what's gained by a tough new air pollution law that simply ships the air pollution and the jobs to China.

    •  The tens of thousands of Americans who will not (4+ / 0-)
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      get heart attacks and respiratory illness might choose to disagree with this meme.  Outsourcing is wrong but getting rid of environmental protection to fight it is just more wrong.

      The cost of the CAIR bill is trivial to the coal fired utilities.  They are not going to move to China.  

      The major sources of the pollutants covered by this bill is the coal-fired energy sector.  The cost per kwh is less than a penny.

      The cost of those thousands going to hospital is immense.

      "Don't dream it, be it" - Brad, Janet and Frank

      by captainlaser on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 01:22:10 PM PDT

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      •  I didn't call for ending EPA rules though.... (0+ / 0-)

        I'm just stating truth.  Environmental rules without tariffs only leads to more outsourcing, more unemployment, more poverty.

        But which one kills faster?  Breathing dirtier air, or being homeless and starving?  The people who fall into deep poverty won't have time to worry about getting lung diseases, they won't live long enough.

    •  Oh, they'll still outsource (0+ / 0-)

      Environmental regulations are only a small part of the offshoring equation. Even without any environmental regulation in the U.S. (a place I don't think we want to go), the cheap cost of labor overseas and the lack of regulation on how long and under what conditions that labor can work would still offer substantial enough savings to employers to keep shipping jobs overseas.

      I'm not sure where you got the idea that "this site is running in the globalist, no tariff, free trade mindset." Could you please give some examples? All you have to do around here to make people's blood pressure go up is say "Clinton" and wait for the chorus of "NAFTA."

      •  This site completely ignores tariffs (0+ / 0-)

        Tariffs are in the Constitution, so should be agreed upon by progressives and teabaggers alike.  We should have massive import tariffs on goods from China and 3rd world nations.

        How many reqs does my post have?  Zero.  And why?  My position supports higher American wages, union jobs, more jobs in general.  But any mention of tariffs is either flat out ignored or the familiar "It'll start a trade war" nonsense is spewed about.  Never mind that China, South Korea and others have massive tariffs on OUR exports.

        Is Obama ending NAFTA or CAFTA?  No, he's working to expand free trade deals and this site is going right along with it.  The American worker cannot compete with the $1/hr global minimum wage, but no one is willing to address that fact.

  •  question (1+ / 0-)
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    Norm in Chicago

    When Dems controlled congress during the Bush years, did we ever use such tactics to voice disapproval of stupid wars and tax cuts?  Put another way--did dems demonstrate fealty to their citizen masters?

    So yet another day wasted on a nasty, destructive piece of legislation whose only purpose is to allow Republicans to demonstrate their fealty to their corporate masters.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 01:12:00 PM PDT

  •  i guess (1+ / 0-)
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    Amber6541

    since they cant deport all the illegals and non-whites why not "gas" them out with polluted air?  And if some others die along the way - well that is just collateral damage on the road to Koch-Inspired nirvana.

    He may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot, but don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot...Groucho Marx

    by distributorcap on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 01:12:43 PM PDT

  •  If this act is so awful, then why no action (0+ / 0-)

    links with talking points?

    I'm lazy and sleepy.

     I could sit here reading Daily Kos, wringing my hands about "ain't it awful".....

     but .......if anyone who cares enough to bring me such depressing news also cared to give us a K.I.S.S. action link with talking points I could take a moment to do something about it.

  •  Another pointless political maneuver (2+ / 0-)
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    Dead in the Senate.

    "Don't dream it, be it" - Brad, Janet and Frank

    by captainlaser on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 01:14:53 PM PDT

    •  Fingers crossed ! (2+ / 0-)
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      Hope you're right, captain.  I hope they don't "trade off" this for something else the Senate deems more pressing or important.  They sometimes work like that from what I've seen.....just have my fingers crossed they don't do it in this instance.

      - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

      by r2did2 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 01:25:56 PM PDT

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      •  My two senators Cardin and Mikulski (1+ / 0-)
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        Amber6541

        have already sent out messages on retaining EPA rulemaking.  They were upset by Obama's walking away from the new Ozone rule.

        The reason it appears that EPA is bringing in a lot of rules is that these rules were stuck in bureaucracy for the 8 years of the Bush Administration.

        "Don't dream it, be it" - Brad, Janet and Frank

        by captainlaser on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 01:35:09 PM PDT

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  •  As said here, it's not just the deaths it'll cause (2+ / 0-)
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    Every year these important safeguards are delayed, Americans will suffer up to 25,300 premature deaths due to toxic air pollution–and once again, they could be delayed indefinitely. Delaying the standards will also cause tens of thousands more heart attacks, asthma attacks and hospital stays.

    Anyone that has asthma knows just how much poor quality air affects them.  We face enough problems with just some of Mother Nature's offerings (pollen, dust storms, pet dander, heavy humidity for some...etc.).  When man-made toxins are added to that mix, it might not cause death...but if you've ever experienced gasping for air, you know how these emmissions affect an asthmatic and people with COPD and other respiratory problems.  

    This is bad legislation....just one more case of just how little these repub bastards think of our country's citizens.

    - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

    by r2did2 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 at 01:15:32 PM PDT

  •  good to know (0+ / 0-)

    the republicans are still fighting to help create jobs in this country. the coroner's & undertaker's ass.  appreciates this.

  •  It's not the legislation itself that bothers me (0+ / 0-)

    That's DOA. It's the constant shitrain of bogus legislation coming out of the House day after day that makes me beyond weary.

  •  Now. let's see the Senate table this one, too. (1+ / 0-)
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    Amber6541

    There is good cause to do so, on the environmental concerns alone.  Someone just needs to come up with some numbers on how much money the government is likely to have to spend on health-related issues as a result of this bill.

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