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As joanneleon reported recently, Catfood II crossed a new threshold, the other day, abandoning transparency for secret meetings.  John Kerry refused to comment. Gah.

Thousands are not taking the 'work' of this committee lying down, but are taking the initiative to let those suckers know to leave our safety net alone:

Both sides are mounting huge grass-roots efforts. But consumer advocates have employed more high-profile tactics.
AARP, which represents 37 million older Americans, is running a multimillion-dollar TV ad opposing any cuts to Medicare and Social Security. The group is also encouraging people to record personal messages to the super committee.

A network of more than 340 organizations called the National Medicaid Coalition plans to have members phone lawmakers just before an October 14 deadline for congressional panels that deal with healthcare issues to submit deficit-cutting ideas to the super committee.

Now that's what I'm talking about.

Election blowback?

The clash could have consequences for the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives in the 2012 elections, if cuts to the popular programs become a rallying cry for angry senior citizens and other impacted voters, analysts say.

Medicare and Medicaid are the government-run programs for the elderly and the poor, respectively, and together provide health coverage for about 100 million Americans.



Deadlock The Death Panel !
Healthcare lobbyists of all stripes agree that the best outcome would be a deadlock if Republicans remain unwilling to raise tax revenues. A deadlock would trigger automatic cuts that would spare Medicaid and impose only moderate reductions on Medicare.


Revenues first!

"Our mantra is revenues first," said Patricia Nemore of the Center for Medicare Advocacy.

But in case the panel reaches agreement, both sides are aggressively pushing ideas that would minimize the pain.

Where industry groups want Congress to raise the age of eligibility for Medicare from 65 to 67, consumer advocates would lower the requirement to 55 so that younger, healthier people could add revenue to the program.

Yes!

Let's occupy the damn Catfood Committee! Ring their phone lines off the wall, kossacks!  Target date is just before the 14th, but for those who cannot wait can starthere.
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Occupy Wall Street to K Street (Heh)

From Healthcare-NOW

Oct. 6 – Join Us in Freedom Plaza

September 28, 2011 by Healthcare-NOW!  

Are you going to the October 6, 2011 rally at Freedom Plaza in Washington, D.C.?

Healthcare-NOW! will be there to demand human needs over corporate greed, including life-saving, money-saving improved Medicare for all.

Help us build the single-payer contingent by coming to Freedom Plaza on October 6th. Please email Vanessa@healthcare-NOW.org if you and/or your organization are planning to attend.

The October 2011 movement stands for placing human needs over corporate greed; for stopping the machine and creating a new world. If you want economic justice, human rights, peace, a healthy environment, and an end to corporate criminals’ control of the political process, then you belong in Freedom Plaza on October 6th. Please join us!

If you want to get involved but cannot make it to D.C., check with the organizer in your state to see if a solidarity event is being planned.

Here's a link for those who can't go.  Find out what's happening in your state:
 Occupy Together
http://www.occupytogether.org/

Originally posted to divineorder on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 06:52 AM PDT.

Also republished by Occupy Wall Street.

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  •  You know, I don't mind secret meetings. (1+ / 0-)
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    divineorder

    In a public meeting, any Republican who even hinted at being open to revenues would have a Tea Party primary challenger declaring their candidacy within the hour.

    Putting the meetings behind closed doors increases the chances of one or two Republicans actually being sane, as it decreases the risk of blowback from their insane constituents.

    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

    by JamesGG on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 06:56:40 AM PDT

    •  ? Sounds like a bipartisanism call. (2+ / 0-)
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      increases the chances of one or two Republicans actually being sane

      I ALWAYS mind secret meetings.  

      •  Bipartisanship is unavoidable. (1+ / 0-)
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        I don't know how you think we're going to get anything out of this that isn't bipartisan. It has to be.

        Something's got to pass the House, and the Republicans have a large majority there. Anything that's going to pass is going to have to get at least one Republican vote in the committee in order to send it out, and a few dozen (at least) Republican votes in the House.

        With that in mind, closing the doors in order to give a Republican or two the political cover they need in order to buck their party's rabid base and actually do something about revenues seems more than prudent.

        "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

        by JamesGG on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 07:07:25 AM PDT

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        •  Yes, thanks, I understand how the process (0+ / 0-)

          is designed to work. Just have zero confidence that this will happen:

          buck their party's rabid base and actually do something about revenues seems more than prudent.

          President has given them plenty of chances to make that happend over the last three years. DID. NOT. WORK.

          What's proposedhere is to work toward deadlock so that they won't do even more harm.

          Wish that you were correct for sure.

          •  The problem is... (0+ / 0-)

            ...that he's expected the Republicans to buck their base in public, with all sorts of right-wing crazies threatening a Tea Party primary challenge for anyone who doesn't toe the line in every single way or anyone who even hints that they might be thinking about working with the President.

            Hank Williams, Jr.'s comments are instructive as to how the Tea Party thinks: Obama is Hitler, the Republicans are the Jews, and even sitting down and talking to him—hell, doing anything but spit on him—is considered a betrayal of their principles.

            The only reason the right-wing base will tolerate the Republicans even being cordial to the President is because they've constructed this image in their heads of President Obama as this Chicago-style dictator who will have them whacked if they disrespect him.

            They were talking about primarying Orrin F$%#ing Hatch, for God's sake. ORRIN F$%#ING HATCH. Because he'd had the audacity to work with Barack Obama when he was in the Senate, and grant President Obama some leeway on his SCOTUS nominees.

            The freshmen Republicans might be right-wing loonies, but the ones who have been here a while are a bit more sane. They need to act insane in order to keep their jobs. That's not exactly admirable, but it is understandable. So putting them behind closed doors—where they can agree that revenues have to be part of the equation, even if they have to pretend in public like the Democrats twisted their arms—could give them the cover they need to let the safest one take the fall and vote for a deal that includes revenues.

            "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

            by JamesGG on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 07:32:51 AM PDT

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            •  I totally agree that that would be great... (1+ / 0-)
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              I just don't believe there's a snowball's chance in hell that it will work:

              the ones who have been here a while are a bit more sane. They need to act insane in order to keep their jobs. That's not exactly admirable, but it is understandable. So putting them behind closed doors—where they can agree that revenues have to be part of the equation, even if they have to pretend in public like the Democrats twisted their arms—could give them the cover they need to let the safest one take the fall and vote for a deal that includes revenues.

              Unless,  of course, the Dem agenda for the Committee has a lot of overlap with the Republican agenda.... which, after, the Catfood Commission's appointment and now this 'super catfood committtee's appearance.... I would not be surprised.

            •  I see another opportunity for Dems to attack (0+ / 0-)

              core parts of the Party Platform...in secret. We know where the Repugs stand, and we do see the Dems accepting the idea of secrecy.

              without the ants the rainforest dies

              by aliasalias on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 03:59:30 PM PDT

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  •  I have 2 questions.... (1+ / 0-)
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    1) why Freedom Plaza for this demonstration?

    I realize you didn't make this choice. I'm just curious.

    The super committee is composed of people in Congress. I'm not exactly an expert on DC geography, but it looks to me like Freedom Park is much closer to the White House than to the Capitol Building. I am supposing there is a reason for this, but I am curious what the reason is.

    If the object is to capture the attention of the people on the Super Committee, why not hold the demonstration somewhere where they can actually be aware of it while they are "working"? Possibly cause them to change their route to their comfortable offices, possibly cause them to go by a demonstration while on their way to lunch or afternoon assignations?

    After all, Occupy Wall Street is not being held in Central Park.

    2) (more of a rhetorical question) there are lots of people in DC and lots of people that visit DC; why not start something similar to OWS, a continuous action, immediately adjacent to the Capitol Building (or as close as possible) and take advantage of the fact that many people visit DC, many people live there, many people live close?

    Just wonderin'...

    I remember when we was both out on the boulevard, talkin' revolution and singin' the blues. Nowadays letters to the editor and cheatin' on our taxes is the best that we can do - Steve Earle

    by hillbrook green on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 10:37:02 AM PDT

  •  Link to "occupy together" doesn't work for me (1+ / 0-)
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    divineorder

    possibly a problem with my browser?

    I remember when we was both out on the boulevard, talkin' revolution and singin' the blues. Nowadays letters to the editor and cheatin' on our taxes is the best that we can do - Steve Earle

    by hillbrook green on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 10:39:24 AM PDT

  •  After further research... (0+ / 0-)

    I see that you published a diary yesterday that includes this statement:

    Occupy the White House? Well, actually,this starts at Freedom Plaza.

    I'm wondering why you are making statements about occupying the White House when referring to the Freedom Plaza event on Monday and then on Tuesday conflating the Freedom Plaza event with pressuring the Super Committee.

    Which is it? Are we protesting the White House or the Capitol?

    Why would we want to occupy the White House to protest the Super Committee?

    Yeah, I know, I'm an Obamabot - the standard response.

    But seriously, the President has already made a strong statement and issued an ultimatum to the Super Committee and Congress. What more influence does he have at this particular time?

    The next move belongs to Congress and the Super Committee. Why protest at the White House?

    Not snarking here. Wondering about tactics.

    I remember when we was both out on the boulevard, talkin' revolution and singin' the blues. Nowadays letters to the editor and cheatin' on our taxes is the best that we can do - Steve Earle

    by hillbrook green on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 10:55:38 AM PDT

  •  And after further research.... (0+ / 0-)

    OK, I get it now. This is basically an offshoot of OWS. A group interested in Healthcare is apparently participating. Freedom Plaza was probably available or something or is a place that can be used for gatherings without a permit??

    Whatever.

    I sincerely hope that these people (and I may try to go but can't this weekend) will focus a little bit on the Catfood II / Super Committee.

    It doesn't really sound like they are inclined in that direction. I predict drum circles and group meditations with Wavy Gravy wanna-bes trying to provide for basic needs.

    Not that there is anything wrong with that.

    Demonstrations are good, even if they are unfocused and lacking in direction / all-inclusive.

    But I was really hoping that somebody could set up some direct confrontation with the lawmakers who have a potential of making really serious decisions. I'm just not a believer that phone calls accomplish as much as direct peaceful confrontation.

    Let us all know if you get a hint of action directed directly at the Super Committee, OK?

    I remember when we was both out on the boulevard, talkin' revolution and singin' the blues. Nowadays letters to the editor and cheatin' on our taxes is the best that we can do - Steve Earle

    by hillbrook green on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 11:12:26 AM PDT

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