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I hope Illinois is suitably ashamed for ever electing this joker in the first place. Here's Congessman (sigh) Joe Walsh (R-IL), getting so pissed off that someone would question our Galtian overlords that he has a full-blown public meltdown. Partial transcript via Think Progress:
WALSH: Thats not the problem! The problem is you’ve got to be consistent. And I dont want government meddling in the marketplace. Yeah, they move from Goldman Sachs to the White House, I understand all of that. But you gotta’ be consistent. And it’s not the private marketplace that created this mess. What created mess was your government, which has demanded for years that everybody be in a home. And we’ve made it easy as possible for people to be in homes. [...] Don’t blame banks, and don’t blame the marketplace for the mess we’re in right now! I am tired of hearing that crap! This pisses me off! Too many people don’t listen. [...]

He then threatened to throw the constituent out rather than listen to any more of that hurtful anti-bank stuff.

All right, so to "deadbeat dad" add "apparently unstable or drunk or something." Who knew? Maybe "mortgage-backed securities" is his trigger word?

Now, it's a bit interesting that when in full, emotional meltdown, when people usually are at their most unfiltered, Walsh is indeed apparently convinced that the entire reason our economy melted down is because people were assholes enough to want to live in homes. How dare they! And how dare government help them! People should live on the damn streets and in the parks, like God intended, and like any good Republican knows!

No, it wasn't because of a ridiculous derivatives market that insulated lenders from bad business decisions, eventually resulting in lenders writing bucketfuls of known-bad loans because they knew they would get paid handsomely no matter what. No, it wasn't because Wall Street, in their obsession to invent yet another way to make imaginary money based on other people's imaginary money, completely forgot that they were all scamming each other by dropping hugely risky assets on each other as if they were the bestest stuff ever. No, it's the damn public for wanting to live in homes.

How the hell does any of that translate into "it's not the private marketplace that created this mess?" What the hell? It was very explicitly the "private marketplace" that did all those things. Oh, heavens, we can't blame the goddamn banks for making piss-poor business decisions—but we can blame regular citizens for not being able to find jobs. We can blame folks for not recognizing that the predatory 50-year balloon-payment triple-salchow inverse heimlich mortgage they were sold was, in fact, a scam that they would never be able to actually pay off. We can blame some random constituent for bringing any of it up.

And that's why we bail out Wall Street to the tune of heaven knows how much, at this point, while austerity-crapping our way to reducing Food Stamps and unemployment benefits so that the poor peons on the street don't get too comfortable with their no-job-having, living-in-their-car luxury living.

In a move that would make more sense if Walsh was a five-year-old, Joe now says he was "working on an empty stomach and had a quicker fuse than normal." Full tummy or not, though, Walsh seems increasingly edgy lately. First he's telling his GOP primary opponent that he'll "punch him in the face, figuratively speaking," now he's having public meltdowns in front of people who are, ostensibly, on his own side.

I think this fellow is losing his marbles. You know, "figuratively speaking."

For more discussion, see the diary by MinistryOfTruth.

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  •  Somebody took The Eagles' breakup pretty hard. (24+ / 0-)

    I know, I know.  Different Joe Walsh, but still...

    Shorter Randroids: libthinkers unbellyfeel randspeak. a.s. film doubleplusgood.

    by Surreal American on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:01:54 PM PST

  •  This guy is the epitome of the word "douchebag" (31+ / 0-)

    A terrible father, a liar and a blowhard. Someone nominate him for asshole of the year.

    "The two pioneering forces of modern sensibility are Jewish moral seriousness and homosexual aestheticism and irony." Susan Sontag

    by Shane Hensinger on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:04:49 PM PST

    •  I'm loving Walsh's facebook page right now (10+ / 0-)

      "He's the one, who likes all our pretty songs. And he likes to sing along. And he likes to shoot his gun. But he knows not what it means" - Kurt Cobain

      by Jeff Y on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:06:00 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Oh, my... (10+ / 0-)

        From one constituent, "Get help".

        I'm guessing the Twinkie Defense will be next.

        May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. George Carlin

        by msmacgyver on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:32:31 PM PST

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      •  ...and if he doesn't like what you say, his staff (4+ / 0-)
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        will block you on FB.  Even if you mind your manners and simply offer civil but pointed criticism.  ;)

        What's the word I'm looking for....?

        Starts with a "p"....

        Ah, yes...pusillanimous.

        ;)

        "The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed." ~ Steven Biko

        by Marjmar on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 03:18:28 PM PST

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      •  I got booted (1+ / 0-)
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        And like that, "poof", my comments are gone.   I tried to engage the minions on CDO's, only to get run.   What cowards.

        •  I got run off of a LIBERAL site (0+ / 0-)

          a couple of days ago. The owner of the 'Liberal and Proud of it' page posted a link to a Yahoo story about the bin Laden killing- a particularly nasty story. I read it and though WTF? so I followed the links in their story and did a very small amount of Googling, and then came back and pointed out that the former Navy SEAL wasn't there, wasn't involved in any way, wasn't even in the service then, ~and~ is shilling a book. Also pointed out that the Yahoo story was a re-hash of an interview he'd done for 'The Daily Caller', *founded by journalist and political pundit Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney*.  I suggested that the poster should have done their homework. I said so politely, I thought.

          This did not go over well however, and I found that my comments were scrubbed and I was banned and blocked. And received two abusive private messages to boot.

          From someone on the same team.

          As a friend of mine remarked, "Just because you have a page or run a website doesn't mean you should be a dick about it."

          "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -Albus Dumbledore ~~~~~~~~~ http://slugcrossings.blogspot.com/

          by Lainie on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 08:28:51 PM PST

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    •  Douche (7+ / 0-)

      I was going to title my post  Douche (which showed just after yours). I went with a diff title, but still called him a jackass douche in the comment. I guess he just has the aura of general douchebaggery to him.

    •  One christian cult is naming him (3+ / 0-)

      man eau d' year for his family values.

      What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

      by agnostic on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:07:32 PM PST

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    •  You Don't Really Get It (0+ / 0-)

      What is not important here is that he lost control and verbally attacked a voter, what is really important is why he lost control.
      Why did Joe Walsh lose control when it was correctly pointed that the financial industry corporate executives colluded in a get rich quick scheme via bonuses based upon poisoned fiscal fantasies knowing that it would bankrupt the companies they work for?
      It is because it wasn't those crooks that was being attacked, it was his pay cheque that was being attacked, as a stooge in congress for the corrupted financial industries, if he can't blow of the public and vote the way he has been paid to vote, then he is of no use to those corporate executives who own him and they will fire him in nest primaries and get another puppet to replace him.
      It wasn't the banks that was attacked it was his wallet!

      •  you think Joe is that smart? (0+ / 0-)

        I can't say I disagree with your points, but Joe doesn't come off as that strategic to see his paycheck is in play.  I don't think he's smart enough to do a Faustian bargain and sell his soul or his vote.

        He's certainly naive enough to believe THE BIG LIE(tm)

        He's obviously not spent time flying back and forth to DC reading "The Big Short," which is funny as all get out and written for a 12 year old reading level.

        •  Walsh should be strapped to a chair and made to (0+ / 0-)

          watch "Inside Job" over and over again until he screams,"Regulation is good a good thing",over and over again.

          He should be made to listen to Greenspan assuring Congress that derivatives,including those guaranteeing subprime mortgage securities, required no federal regulation at all.
          In fact,unregulated derivatives were a principle source of the risk-taking that brought down the financial system.

  •  "Your Government" (18+ / 0-)

    What an imbecile. "The govt forced people into homes"... what a crock. In essense, the jackass douche is saying the same old thing, that the poor bankers had no control over lending policies, but in truth, the more corrupt ones (that were allowed to operate because of deregulation) ignored logical steps to lending, such as risk assessments, employment verifications, etc.

    The banks basically automated the underwriting process, which resulted in bad loans- systemic bad loans in many cases to people who weren't qualified or were duped into not understanding their loan would double or triple. The banks didn't care, because they were just going to sell the loans to somebody else to take the risk. They laughed all the way.

    •  Not to mention George Bush- (0+ / 0-)

      I can remember his push for home ownership- remember the 'Ownership Society'? Apparently Joe forgets the inconvenient...

      "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -Albus Dumbledore ~~~~~~~~~ http://slugcrossings.blogspot.com/

      by Lainie on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 08:33:41 PM PST

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  •  Some of this is from a comment I posted in (16+ / 0-)

    MoTs diary, but it is still all about education and the ability of the constituents in this clip and members of the OWS movement like MoT, who can understand and articulate what happened to the middle class at the hands of the unregulated financial industry.

    I truly believe that the wall street thugs really thought they would be able to get clean away with their robbery of the American wealth because they were using financial vehicles so complicated that they didn't understand them and so never expected us to figure out what had been done.

    And that was their mistake.  They assumed that we were as stupid as they were, as the tea party was and as their bought and paid for politicians were.  

    Joe Walsh wouldn't know a credit default swap if it bit him in the ass.  What really made him angry was that the woman who questioned him did know what a derivative was, what a toxic asset represented and the difference between an investment bank and a commercial bank.

    His anger was a typical defense mechanism that the ignorant employ when faced with those pesky fact thingys.

    There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody. - Elizabeth Warren

    by Susan Grigsby on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:05:21 PM PST

    •  Walsh's "hissy fits" are supposed to distract us (0+ / 0-)

      from reality. It isn't working Joe. It makes you look real crazy and I want to smack you back into reality when you do it.

      That women was way too smart for him. He had to shut her up.

  •  Remember the "Ownership Society"? (12+ / 0-)

    Getting people into homes was as much a Republican mantra as anything that came from our side.

    •  the real deal was if you own a ship we like you (0+ / 0-)

      if not get in steerage and shut up.

    •  That's the strawman! (1+ / 0-)
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      On page 143 of "The Big Short" one of the savvy guys realized "There weren't enough Americans with [lousy] credit taking out loans to satisfy investors' appetite for the end product."

      "They (the bond market) weren't satisfied getting lots of unqualified borrowers to borrow money to buy a house the couldn't afford. They were creating them (bonds) out of whole cloth.

      "ONE HUNDRED TIMES OVER! That's why the losses in the financial system are so much GREATER than just the subprime loans."

  •  Illinois to Hunter: (4+ / 0-)
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    Yes, we are.

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:06:38 PM PST

  •  "It's so easy..." (3+ / 0-)

    What an ass. If everybody would just listen to Joe, nothing bad would ever happen.

    "Every day is a good day to point out hypocrisy"...PvtJarHead

    by Giles Goat Boy on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:08:18 PM PST

  •  Another white guy (11+ / 0-)

    with an anger management problem.  What's the deal with this phenomenon?

    Ordinary political process is dead. The Supreme Court killed it. In Chambers. With a gavel.

    by Publius2008 on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:09:08 PM PST

  •  "demanded for years that everybody be in a home" (8+ / 0-)

    How exactly does THAT work? The govt. holds a gun to your head and says, "OK, sucker! Buy now or we'll take your Pringles away!?

    I thought the libertarian line was that the govt. forced the banks to make risky loans. Can't this deadbeat dad congressthing remember anything?!

    "Always remember this: They fight with money and we resist with time, and they’re going to run out of money before we run out of time." -Utah Philips

    by TerryDarc on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:09:46 PM PST

  •  politicians who blame "government" (8+ / 0-)

    ...never see the irony that they ARE the government and yes, when they fail to do their jobs, people suffer.

    "An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war." -Mark Twain

    by humanistique on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:10:49 PM PST

  •  my hood, he'd prob'ly be tossed... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...with a display of ranting and gesticulating behavior like that, which is to say that the bartender would have suggested that he calm down, take it down a notch, or that he leave.

    "Suggested" being a term that may understate the level of firm insistence.

    'Course, we gotta lotta kinda de-institutionalized folks in my hood, so we have experience with aggressively gesticulating ranters...

  •  Why Isn't This Deadbeat In Jail? (2+ / 0-)
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  •  like Boehner, anger management & alcohol don't mix (4+ / 0-)
    Don’t blame banks, and don’t blame the marketplace for the mess we’re in right now! I am tired of hearing that crap! This pisses me off!
    Joe now says he was "working on an empty stomach and had a quicker fuse than normal."

    I am off my metas! Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03)

    by annieli on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:11:40 PM PST

  •  Complete Rubbish (8+ / 0-)
    WALSH: ...What created mess was your government, which has demanded for years that everybody be in a home. And we’ve made it easy as possible for people to be in homes. [...] Don’t blame banks, and don’t blame the marketplace for the mess we’re in right now! I am tired of hearing that crap! This pisses me off! Too many people don’t listen. [...]

    Representative Walsh:  Please explain how $221 billion in exposure to riskier loans to low- and moderate-income home buyers has required $1.6 trillion in bailouts (so far).

    The person at your town hall meetings that's refusing to listen is not who you think...

  •  Unfuckingbelievable... (2+ / 0-)
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    no other words.  

    The more you learn the less you know.

    by quiet in NC on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:12:44 PM PST

  •  If Anyone (8+ / 0-)

    Was pushing "home ownership" it was the Shrub.  Memories fade, but the Dim Bulb repeatedly pushed the meme that anyone could afford to buy their own home.

  •  too many ppl don't listen (4+ / 0-)

    Yep, that would include you Joe. What an a$$.

  •  what is it about Republican wave years? (4+ / 0-)

    They don't just elect ultra right wingers; they elect ultra right wingers who are complete assholes.

    27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-07 (originally), liberal-leaning independent

    by TDDVandy on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:14:07 PM PST

    •  1994 and 2010 really do have some winners, eh? (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
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      1994 we had the likes of Steve Stockman (who'd previously been a homeless man suspected of mental illness) and Wes Cooley (pathological liar). This year we've got the likes of Walsh and Allen West.

      The good news is, these asshole only tend to last one term before their constituents realize just how big an asshole they are.

      •  Stockman (0+ / 0-)

        Wow.  That guy was a piece of work.  I think he only won because that district, for whatever reason, had gotten tired of Jack Brooks and didn't realize exactly who they were voting for.

        27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-07 (originally), liberal-leaning independent

        by TDDVandy on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 03:04:09 PM PST

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        •  Really was a shame about Brooks (0+ / 0-)

          That man was such a lefty they called him "Red." He actually voted against a fellow Texan, Jim Wright, in favor of Phil Burton for House Majority Leader in 1977. The man had balls, and conviction to boot.

          We had a lot of nutbars get elected here in Washington, too. We went from something like seven Democrats and two Republicans to seven or eight Republicans and only one or two Democrats. It was a slaughter. The worst loss was Speaker of the House Tom Foley, who was beaten by that slippery weasel Nethercutt. For all that, though, Nethercutt was relatively sane and relatively boring. The people who got elected on the other side of the state, on the other hand, were a whole different breed of crazy. Christian Coalition types and other assorted loons. Fortunately, several of them were knocked out in 1996, and all of them were gone except Nethercutt and Hastings by 2000.

    •  What is it about the American voting public? (0+ / 0-)

      Walsh has no political future, but he should never have been elected in the first place. Sometimes I think we don't deserve our democracy... when we elect raving lunatics like this, people known to be completely off the charts even before they are elected.

      “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

      by ivorybill on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:39:21 PM PST

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      •  I'm from that area. All my friends and family (5+ / 0-)

        voted for him.  Why?  Because they just show up at the polls and vote R by default (the Jon Huntsman type of R)

        They are not TeaBaggers, and they are appalled to see this guy in real life.  

        They are just typically ignorant voters, who see a couple campaign ads, and default to their upbringing in the voting booth.  And they are proud they get to the polls.

        I don't know how we are ever going to make this type of voter see it matters so much more than that

        Wall Street, pay for your own damn bailout: place a 0.1% tax on all financial market transactions.

        by mumtaznepal on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:55:19 PM PST

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        •  My wife's family live in that district (0+ / 0-)

          and I agree with you.  They are old-school democrats, but I know just what you mean.  It's distressing that anyone would vote with so little thought or responsibility.  I thought you were going to say something about the media skewing the elections, and I'm glad you didn't - voters have to take some responsibility for the way they vote and I don't much like letting them off the hook when they elect a complete moron like Joe Walsh.

          “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

          by ivorybill on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 03:04:36 PM PST

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        •  Maybe this will help them (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          davehouck

          pay attention more the next election. I know that my stepmother (who was one of those "default" republicans) is really looking at politicians more.
          She's in Florida and I think Alex Sink was the first Democrat she ever voted for in her life, but she was horrified by Rick Scott. For good reason as she's finding out.

          You will never know what it’s like to work on a farm until your hands are raw, just so people can have fresh marijuana. Jack Handey

          by skohayes on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 03:58:37 PM PST

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  •  To some extent it is government's fault (0+ / 0-)

    When the government essentially tells banks to make loans to get people into houses (whether the people are qualified for the loans or not) and if they default on their loans the government will bail them out, the banks are going to make those loans all day long because there's no risk...

    It's silly to say that Walsh is basically

    "convinced that the entire reason our economy melted down is because people were assholes enough to want to live in homes. How dare they! And how dare government help them! People should live on the damn streets and in the parks, like God intended, and like any good Republican knows!"

    when I think that you actually know that he's saying is that people who normally wouldn't be qualified for a home loan were getting loans because of the incentive that was given to banks by the government to give out what would technically be considered bad loans all in the name of increased homeownership... And to the extent that the government put people into that position through their seemingly compassionate policies is cruel.

    •  if the government in fact (5+ / 0-)
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      told banks they had to make bad loans, you'd have a point, but they didn't.  At best, you can blame Alan Greenspan's interest rate policies, but to suggest we have to choose between blatant redlining and a housing bubble is fallacious.

      "This world demands the qualities of youth: not a time of life but a state of mind[.]" -- Robert F. Kennedy

      by Loge on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:22:59 PM PST

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    •  You kind of missed the whole mortgage (4+ / 0-)

      balloon thingy, didn't you?

      Better go look it up.  Hint: The mortgages were not nearly as much of a problem as the originators of the mortgages, and those who bundled them and sold them as Triple A securities.

    •  Incomplete Analysis (0+ / 0-)

      See previous post on exactly this point.

    •  Yes and it was his party who was the damn (1+ / 0-)
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      judyms9

      government.  Bush and Co., Inc.

      "The bottom line is, we've got to wake up. We can't allow our disappointment in Obama to lull us into allowing a truly dangerous strain of conservative philosophy to gain any more traction than it already has." --ObamOcala 4/5/11

      by smoothnmellow on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:45:22 PM PST

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    •  Bullshit. (0+ / 0-)

      Most of the originators of those subprime mortgages were not covered by the CRA. The only reason those mortgages were written was to bundle and sell them. The originators bore no risk in the event of default, not because they would be reimbursed by the government but because they weren't going to keep them anyway.

      These are right wing talking points and have been debunked many times. Wall Street created the housing crisis, not the government.

      "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

      by happy camper on Thu Nov 10, 2011 at 09:01:27 AM PST

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  •  God I wish I was at that meeting! I'd show him (4+ / 0-)
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    what a quick fuse really looks like.  What a totally pussy.  Acting all big and bad to women and 65 year old men.

  •  I think he would have had to have some marbles (2+ / 0-)
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    to begin with.  I'm not sure he ever received his marble allotment.

  •  "An empty stomach?" Joe, you were in a restaurant (7+ / 0-)

    In an Uno's Bar and Grill, if I'm correct. They serve food. Damn fine food. Especially pizza. You know, Chicago's rather well known for it. Maybe you should have some. If it keeps you from going all Patrick Bateman on your constituents, I heartily suggest it.

  •  It's good to see him writing campaign (5+ / 0-)

    commercials for his opponents.

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:17:39 PM PST

  •  my peeve with that canard (4+ / 0-)
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    all those no doc loans the banks were generating in order to pump up the bubble, were not made to poor.  few were.  but mainly to 'the market', in general, and the housing market consists of a lower percentage of poor.  

    and then a question: why can't these ahole R's acknowledge that it was the 30:1 leveraging of crap loan bundles that is the root of the economic crash not the home loans.  the bailout wasn't money to float a few bad home loans, it was the CDO mess, as the CDO owners (a.k.a. Walsh's' 'market', or scamees) figured out they'd been had and that AIG was partly on hook as insurer.

    i need a rails developer to help me with a cool map project

    by rasfrome on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:18:31 PM PST

  •  I'm convinced (7+ / 0-)

    that when someone becomes a Republican they are given a little bag of crazy that they're instructed to snort from every day. Some, candidates and office holders perhaps, get a little bigger bag of the crazy and it's more potent.

    Seriously, though, just look at the GOP field of candidates and those already in office. How many are sane? How many are even rational? How many aren't just plain mean and evil?

    I'll wait while someone compiles a list of Republicans who do not meet the above description. It'll probably be a short list.

  •  That's my congressman (3+ / 0-)
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    What an inspiration. /snark

    Halitosigone® can lead to rare, but serious, side effects such as spontaneous combustion and moderate to severe pit stains.

    by bherner on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:21:27 PM PST

  •  but he's fine with gubnit in our bedrooms (9+ / 0-)

    ...in our marriages, in our personal lives and in our uteri.

    go figure.

    "An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war." -Mark Twain

    by humanistique on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:22:01 PM PST

  •  damn dog died (0+ / 0-)

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    Loses It In The Studio

    There's no fundamental difference between and among any of the Republican candidates. ~ V. P. Joe Biden

    by anyname on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:22:07 PM PST

  •  The question that would make Jumpin' Joe (2+ / 0-)
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    wish he had never been born might be, "Can you name a single bank who was forced to make a loan they didn't want to make?"

    Not even the casino Bankster CEOs themselves will go there.

    You wanna job, don't you? - Herman "Koch" Cain, "The Audacity of Grope"

    by thenekkidtruth on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:22:11 PM PST

  •  The ownership society (2+ / 0-)
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    That's what Bush was calling it. The leader of Walsh's party, the POTUS, was openly encouraging Americans to go out and buy a new home while all of this wild-west banking deregulation was going on. Now he has the nerve to blame the victims for doing what they were encourage at every turn to do? Wow. Fuck this guy.

  •  Don't blame all Illinois for this idiot.... (2+ / 0-)
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    ....I'm down in IL-12, and have a semi-good Democrat (Jerry Costello, who is retiring after this term).  I do have Shimkus the Dimkus close by, unfortunately.

    Andy
    Alton IL

    Keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't you forget to have fun doin' it.--Molly Ivins

    by AAbshier on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:23:16 PM PST

  •  He FULLY believes... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...that the evil wonder twins, Fannie and Freddie, have forced private lenders into loaning undeserving people homes. Honestly.

    I can't believe that my neighbors in the district to the north would elect a guy who doesn't understand the BASIC FUNCTION of the things he rails against.

    And this is also the guy who said our guns were what protects us from this encroaching government...

  •  dunno if it's so much peeved that people..... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...wanna live in homes but that the wrong people (in his opinion) were being allowed to live in homes.

    Always seems to be the Conservative/Republican canard: "We want RIGHTS, but for the right sorts of people" and that 'right sort' always seems to exclude the rest of us.

    Oh well...

    "Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny"---Robert Heinlein, writing as Lazarus long

    by justadood on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:24:16 PM PST

  •  Everybody better stop saying these bad things (1+ / 0-)
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    orangecurtainlib

    about Joe or
    I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE
    this private blog hosted by somebody else.

  •  This guy is really something special. (3+ / 0-)
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    All these radical Republicans have an horrendous ideology, but Walsh couples it with a remarkable degree of un-likeability and personal losership.    

    He is obviously a liar, a cheat, and a bully.  A pathetic loser with serious character issues.  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:25:20 PM PST

  •  He asked: (3+ / 0-)
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    "Do you want more government regulation?"

    My answer:  YES, I do!  But I don't want the kind that is written by the corporations!  

    I also want the regulators to do their job -- enforce the laws, particularly those that constrain corporations from cheating 99%ers.

    As for his rank about Dodd-Frank:  Dodd-Frank was so watered down by lobbyists for the corporations that it's only marginally adequate.

  •  Walsh believes banks were forced to give out loans (3+ / 0-)
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    b/c that's basically what he's saying in this video.  Let's set aside the fact that his argument against derivatives and corporate greed are bullshit.  Walsh basically just said that b/c the government demanded, Banks had to give those loans.  They had no choice.  How ignorant do you think we are.  Shutting those ppl up won't change the fact that you're full of shit.

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself - FDR. Obama Nation. -6.13 -6.15

    by ecostar on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:25:42 PM PST

  •  It's the same idiotic logic of the NRA (4+ / 0-)
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    judyms9, orangecurtainlib, fts, skohayes

    Got a murder with a gun? Loosen the gun laws. Got a problem with predatory and lying disgraceful banks and hedge funds? Totally deregulate them and let them rape at will.

    Oh, and try and intimidate your adversary by getting up in her grill and trying to shout over her. She done REAL GOOD, and owned this douchebag!!

    "The problem with quotes on the internet is you can never be certain they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln

    by realwischeese on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:26:19 PM PST

  •  Roll back the bail outs (0+ / 0-)

    Its time to get serious and roll back the bail outs.  Fanie Mae is suing AIG, AIg is suing Goldman, and theres a Qui tam action out there suing everyone.  All plaintiffs want is $125 B back (tripled).  Lets all go to court.

  •  "I'm gonna ask you to leave!" (6+ / 0-)

    Um.  When did you buy that bar?

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    by bherner on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:28:14 PM PST

  •  He's the one Rethug (1+ / 0-)
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    whom I would most like to punch in the face. What a maroon, as Bugs Bunny would say.

    Deadbeat Dad Joe, you can't go away soon enough. But who would want to take you?

  •  Did anyone notice that when his female constituent (9+ / 0-)

    began to challenge his fact with real information he got up into her face and started to scream at her.  Rather than offering up any competing information, he started to bully her.  A competent woman with facts at her disposal really sets these guys off.  As the wife beaters all say, "She just didn't listen".  This is a clip that should be shown to every woman in the nation as to how their Republican members of Congress value the opinion of their women constituents.  After all judge, she just wouldn't listen.  

    And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

    by MrJersey on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:32:42 PM PST

  •  About the lady in the bar...where can I donate? nt (2+ / 0-)
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    Hunter, singe

    We Will NOT Compromise On Fairness.

    by franklyn on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:32:46 PM PST

  •  Walsh for Pres! (0+ / 0-)

    ethics, intelligence and temperament all mark out this fellow as the poster boy for everything the GOP stands for in the 21st century:

    why aren't they running him against Obama?

  •  Hey! Don't blame me! He ani't my Congresscriter. (0+ / 0-)

    That being said, his district includes the City of Schaumberg, a city that up until recently, paid no property taxes because a good portion of that district is made up of huge shopping malls, including Woodfield.

    You know what they say, you break it, you bought it!  heh.

    I heard this moron's rant on Randi's show today.  I think I would have asked for him to be arrested.  What.a.jerkoff.

    "The bottom line is, we've got to wake up. We can't allow our disappointment in Obama to lull us into allowing a truly dangerous strain of conservative philosophy to gain any more traction than it already has." --ObamOcala 4/5/11

    by smoothnmellow on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:34:45 PM PST

  •  He threatens to throw people out? (0+ / 0-)

    That's a public bar, not his property.  

    And it's lack of a level playing field that is the problem with removing government regulation.  This man is an  idjit.

  •  his postal service comment is wrong (4+ / 0-)

    I don't know why nobody calls this out.  USPS is so frequently held up as example of how government can't "compete".  It's wrong because government requires USPS do to things that the market would not provide otherwise.  Once upon a time it was considered valuable to make sure all of our country was linked by postal mail.  If we left it to the market some areas (rural, high crime, impoverished) would probably not receive service and/or service would come at a much higher cost.

    So when people say if they can't compete they shouldn't exist I always wonder if the consequences are thought through.  Someone might make an argument that universal postal service isn't required any more but usually that is not considered.  It's more of a theme that government is inherently bad so obviously anything government related must be bad.

    •  usps is NOT... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...a business---it is a gov't agency that is often told to behave more like a business, despite being fettered & beholden to federal statutes designed for an agency, NOT a business; it operates at the whim of a Congressional committee chaired by the psychotic and (literally) criminal Darryl Issa, a guy barely distiguishable from Joe Walsh

    •  Most of the problem (0+ / 0-)

      with the money at the USPS is that in 2006, Congress passed a law that says that the PO has to fund their retirees health benefits for the next 75 years, and that this fund must be fully funded in 10 years.
      According to the union, had the USPS not been forced to pay towards this health care fund, they would have turned a profit.
      http://www.democracynow.org/...

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      by skohayes on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 04:13:44 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  I'm aware of that too (0+ / 0-)

        But I don't think it cuts to the heart of the USPS can't compete talking point.  USPS isn't the same as a market driven service.  The market would not deliver what we ask of USPS at the cost USPS delivers it.

        Markets are great and solve a lot of problems.  Delivering mail to every residence for the same low cost isn't one of them!

        If this isn't accepted and agreed upon, then the response to the pension funding issue is that a private enterprise wouldn't have to deal with evil public unions and would have more control over their retirement costs.  Or something like that.

  •  I learned something new in this diary (0+ / 0-)

    I learned how to spell 'salchow'.  That Joe Walsh is a complete asshole?  I already knew that.

    The 'Free Market' will decide. It will decide that the United States cannot consume 25% of the world's resources and the upper 1% cannot control 50% of the wealth.

    by RichM on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:43:14 PM PST

  •  Those responsible for this mess (1+ / 0-)
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    orangecurtainlib

    are represented by everyone other than my overlords!

    How dare you peons have opinions about my overlords!

    His emotional breakdown is because the people of the United States are driving open a huge crack in the facade of the corporate elite, and he is running out of effective ways to maintain the facade. So he shouts louder.

    We have to keep taking on their strategy to blame the government for problems caused in whole by corporate influence over government.

    I applaud those constituents.

    "Plan for the normal, live with the abnormal." Great gardening advice from Frankenoid (equally applicable to relationships).

    by surfbird007 on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:48:52 PM PST

  •  I just watched Walsh go off on "Hardball" a (3+ / 0-)

    few minutes ago. This man needs to find himself another job. I was appalled by this outbreak. He is not a happy camper in life its abundantly clear. Poor choicse perhaps Joe???  I hope he is out of a job next year assuming he is up for reelection!

    •  He's a House member, of course he's up (0+ / 0-)

      And will probably lose in the GOP primary against another, saner GOP freshman, who he's already threatened to punch in the face ("figuratively speaking") for bringing up the money he owes his ex-wife. I don't think he was speaking figuratively.

  •  "losing" his marbles? (0+ / 0-)

    If the guy ever had any marbles to begin with, they are certainly all gone now.

    As in "lost", not "losing".

    Hunter, you're slipping

  •  He's angry because his arguments are crumbling... (2+ / 0-)
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    orangecurtainlib, mithra

    All around him. He's also angry because as those arguments are crumbling he is caught with his pants down, unable to explain how his positions make sense. Once he can't do that, since he doesn't understand the issues in the first place, he is useless.

    Clearly though, this is a man who is very accustomed to getting his way. So much so that when his bubble even reflects something that looks like a threat he blows his weak little stack. And, finally, it's always a bit of a bummer when Joe Public, supposedly far inferior to you, asks a serious question or asserts a real position and you have no answer.

    Yeah. This guy's in congress?

    Slap happy is a platform.

    by averageyoungman on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 02:56:44 PM PST

  •  watched this tuesday. very weird. in a gin mill? (0+ / 0-)

    he seemed to be ranting at a very small well informed gin mill crowd. the woman seemed to be quite astute and he was acting like a person who had just been cut off at 2am and wanted just one more double shot before he got in his pickup truck in which his two year old was sleeping and drive home in a snow storm. i think he will not be in the next congress but he might get a job cleaning out the lines for the draft beer.

  •  I remember Chimpy (3+ / 0-)
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    being on the tee vee and talking about the Ownership Society and how every American should be able to buy a home, and thinking to myself - "Self, if Georgie is planning this, it wont turn out well."

    •  Ownership Society (1+ / 0-)
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      judyms9

      thanks for remembering that it was Maggie Thatcher (the originator of Ownership Society) who inspired St Ronnie and a generation of supplysiding deregulators to pursue this policy

      •  Bush gave a speech in the White House on this (0+ / 0-)

        He talked about the dream of home ownership and how even new immigrants should be able to buy homes even if they couldn't afford the down payment or the monthly mortgage payments that something would be worked out.
        I thought I would bust. I showed this to my "fiscal responsibility" Republican friend who didn't care for Clinton economics.

        Its Ironic that Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac were in the audience and he waved to them.

  •  I guess this ass Walsh must own the bar too (0+ / 0-)

    How else could he ask his constituent to leave?

    d-nozzle crazy dude!

    Letting Republicans run the government is like putting Atheists in charge of a church. They don't believe in it, don't care if it works - and they take no responsibility for the results.

    by orangecurtainlib on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 03:01:06 PM PST

  •  So .. the perfect secret Dem PAC ad campaign (0+ / 0-)

    for 2012 would be to just show 60 seconds, clip after clip of screaming, angry GOP elected officials, with the subtitle, "Vote Republican and this is what you get".

    Wall Street, pay for your own damn bailout: place a 0.1% tax on all financial market transactions.

    by mumtaznepal on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 03:02:22 PM PST

  •  That's surreal (1+ / 0-)
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    davehouck

    How can this loser be in office?  Don't his constituents dislike being yelled at?  This guy is such a loudmouth and a moron.  How the hell does someone like this get elected?  

    I hope he's defeated next year.  

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    by SoCalLiberal on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 03:03:32 PM PST

  •  i grew up in a working class family (1+ / 0-)
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    Chris Jay

    we had a new four bedroom home and two cars
    this was in the early seventies. todays working class families would have trouble paying for what my family had

    and these jerks blame the poor and the working class for this for this?
    now americans are told you have too much
     what  changed in thirty years that ended the american dream?

  •  Typical bully mentality.. (3+ / 0-)
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    You would think that people would elect representatives that understood the problems and could discuss them sanely. But this guy doesn't have a clue except that it's his way or the highway. That's not a representative that's a bully. He isn't going to Washington to make things better. He has his own agenda and it's not for anyone else but his own gratification. Behind the scenes he says "Fuck all those people. I WANT it then I WILL DO it." That's his mental image of the why he is voting one way or another. It's not the about the people he represents or the facts that are out there. He doesn't care. His mind is closed, made up, and sold on a bag of goods which was sold to him by the extreme right. He has no idea what the word Compromise is. He doesn't know how to Discuss issues or Deliberate. He orders a cup of coffee and damn the results. It's not his fault it's all the Governments.

    He won't change.. period.

    "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

    by Wynter on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 03:09:26 PM PST

  •  Delusional Boozehound.... (0+ / 0-)

    One more time: Liar loans were working!

    Many people were doing well enough, and this can be seen by a pretty stable rate of mortgage default - only marginally higher because some deals were ridiculous on the high end.

    Housing was an orderly market ...until everything fell apart and all the money in the world couldn't pay back China.  THAT was caused by a ridiculous AIG idea called credit default swaps - insurance with no prudent reserves, and a call from China that wanted to cash in its chips upon the failure of MBS, i.e., garbage mortgage-backed securities that had been packaged and rated TRIPLE-A BY THE BOUGHT AND PAID-FOR RATINGS AGENCIES.

    So this buffoon wants to blame greedy Brown freeloaders again. Well, okay for the racist bigots in IL. They got him. Now they can control him. It's their job. I trust the voters.

    •  also, he's a lying, fatuous gasbag. (1+ / 0-)
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      I don't care that he is a politician, he's not entitled to his own facts.

      The banks - checker-flagged on into the express lane by idiot Greenspan who never saw a bubble he didn't caution you about but did nothing to stop, tied CFTC chair Brooksley Born up and threw her in a closet. SEC was a handmaiden of BushCo, Greenspan a carnival barker. And this guy is a FOX news echo-chamber announcer in-waiting. And the voters think thye got a good deal? My hands are shaking.

  •  Joe Walsh puts the S in stupid. (0+ / 0-)

    He also puts tht A in asshole.

    What a jerk.  his solution is that if you disagree with him, he will have you removed from his forum.  What a bizarre ass.

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win". Mohandas K. Ghandi

    by Randolph the red nosed reindeer on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 03:26:35 PM PST

  •  Every time I see that tooth-filled mug of his I (0+ / 0-)

    hear the theme from "Jaws" in the background.  His kids probably did too.

  •  What an unbearable POS.... (1+ / 0-)
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    IdaMena2

    I hate this guy and everything he does rubs me the wrong way.
    Q: Why didn't someone speak up(peacefully) and ask him to stop waving his hands around angrily in that woman's face?

    He's out of control.
    That's the way he acts on camera in front of his constituents?
    o.O

    •  Watch his subconscious desire to strangle her (1+ / 0-)
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      dclawyer06

      Look at the video again at 2:17

      He holds his hands up and quickly steps towards her. I thought, in all honesty, that he wanted to strangle her.  Good thing she had the chair between them.

      His are not the actions of someone who knows how to use words to persuade people, he's accustomed to using physical danger.

  •  Great riff from WGN (0+ / 0-)

    John Williams, a very good radio host, played a large chunk of this and defended the ranting. But he had a very strong and forceful and explicit disclaimer.

    He fully supports passionate defense of your beliefs and ideas. He is not offended by "pissed off" and such (apparently many are complaining about that salty language) and admires the energy and exuberance.

    "But he is completely wrong on the issue."

    Fine, be passionate, but giving banks a pass and blaming the people? Dead wrong.

    "You may have taken out a mortgage you shouldn't have. You were lied to, or lost your job, or made a bad decision, got greedy... whatever you did you made a mistake. But you made ONE mistake. The bank made thousands and thousands of mistakes and they are in that business. They should have known better and blaming you for their poor decisions is just plain wrong."

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    by WI Deadhead on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 04:20:27 PM PST

  •  Losing his marbles? (0+ / 0-)

    Well... I'm not sure about that. But I'd bet quite a bit that he's feeling the stress of knowing his Congressional seat is going bye-bye. That might be the real cause of his short fuse. Imagine having $100K in back child support and knowing that you won't have that sweet House salary for much longer.

  •  trigger word? (0+ / 0-)
    Maybe "mortgage-backed securities" is his trigger word?

    Naw, I think its his safe word.

    We reeeeeeaaaaaly don't wanna know what his trigger word is. Ewww.

    Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws." ~ Mayer Amschel Rothschild, 1790

    by ozsea1 on Wed Nov 09, 2011 at 05:58:13 PM PST

  •  Not professional behavior (0+ / 0-)

    And he is being paid professional wages and is in a professional position.  In way over his head.  And props to the woman who didn't flinch despite his aggressive behavior.

  •  He must have stopped paying the Pharmacist... (0+ / 0-)

    Our rookie Congressman from Illinois Joe Walsh. I will hand it to him... he did reject his "Big Government" health care plan when coming into office. He isnt paying his child support... drives illegally and recklessly with a revoked license... skips paying his insurance... and now... has obviously stopped paying the Pharmacist that give him anti-psychotic medication.

  •  Where does he expect people to live? (0+ / 0-)

    I am honestly curious where he expects people to live? In apartments? That is all well and good, but in urban areas apartments are often so expensive that you'd almost be better off getting a mortgage for a house, since you'll be able to own the house eventually. Or perhaps he would prefer people live under bridges, or on park benches? Given what he thinks of Occupy Wall Street, I can't imagine that he would like homeless people setting up camp with actual tents and sleeping bags in Central Park or the large public parks in Chicago. And while I agree that the wide open housing market of the 1990s and earl 2000s was problematic, and the government policy on the matter was flawed, it's hard to argue with the principle behind it: that it is right and proper that as many Americans as possible should be able to live in homes, particularly those Americans who were previously barred, by various extralegal stratagems, from owning homes. Indeed, home ownership has been something of an American ideal for the last fifty or sixty years, ever since the post-war housing boom. Owning a home was as American as apple pie, which makes Walsh's disagreement with the idea unusual, to say the least.

    And I am also curious about how exactly one figuratively punches someone in the face? I understand the principle of literally punching someone in the face, though I have never done it before; but I am completely in the dark as to how one would figuratively punch someone in the face.

  •  Does he now understand the importance of (0+ / 0-)

    the school lunch program?

    I think he needs a timeout. And tranquilizers.

    Supply follows consumption. You cannot stimulate consumption by crushing the consumer. Deal with it.

    by Zera Lee on Thu Nov 10, 2011 at 07:08:01 PM PST

  •  Does he now understand the importance of (0+ / 0-)

    the school lunch program?

    I think he needs a timeout.

    Supply follows consumption. You cannot stimulate consumption by crushing the consumer. Deal with it.

    by Zera Lee on Thu Nov 10, 2011 at 08:13:02 PM PST

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