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Kudos to the people who started OWS and to all the people who participated in the movement. I wish I had my own tent in the middle of Zuccotti park.

I'm not sure about the impact of the movement on Wall Street but the banks definitely got the message. They are very scared and are changing their ways of doing business. The following might be a small example but I'm sure others might have experienced the same thing in a bigger way.

Lately, I have noticed a big change in the way the tellers are greeting me when I enter the bank. They are taking more time to know about me and became more polite. Before OWS they wouldn't even look at me and go about their business without paying attention.

Couple of weeks back I got a call from Gallop to conduct a survey about my recent visit to the bank. At the end of the survey, the caller gave me option of receiving a call from a bank executive to provide the feedback directly. I was waiting for this for a long time and jumped on the opportunity

As requested, I got a call from the executive after couple of days. After initial introduction, I told him everything that is currently wrong with the big banks. I emphasized that they have to think about the small customers as well and not try to steal their hard earned money. He wanted to go over my account in order to provide me more services but I told him that I moved all my money to a local credit union and was about to close my account.

He promised me that he would do everything he could to change some of the policies of the bank. I got a feeling that he was genuinely feeling bad and would definitely follow through on his promises.

Please ignore all the naysayers out there. OWS was a huge success and is continuing to shape up the current political conversation.

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  •  Yes and now they are in DC!! (2+ / 0-)
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    satanicpanic, x

    They are making an impact and I hope the congresscritters that get 'visitors' pee their pants!!

    "Time is for careful people, not passionate ones."

    "Life without emotions is like an engine without fuel."

    by roseeriter on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 05:04:20 AM PST

  •  OWS is a good start. That's all. (2+ / 0-)
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    johnny wurster, CoExistNow

    If it doesn't translate into votes--electing more progressives to office, or shifting more incumbents to support progressive legislation--and yeah, that surely means via the Democratic Party, sorry--then it will all be just noise.

    This is not in any way a slam at OWS. I actually think it's a very, very good start. But we must not make the mistake of thinking it's enough.

    "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

    by HeyMikey on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 05:14:54 AM PST

    •  Thankfully (0+ / 0-)

      the Occupy movement is most definitely NOT about "electing more progressives" via the Democratic Party.  That's a strategy that has failed for the left over and over and over again.  

      On the other hand, there have been many reforms over the years through the actions of radicals and revolutionaries who explicitly reject this system in powerful, inspiring ways, which then forces a scared ruling class to make concessions.  That's the way it always works.  

      Now, I don't for a second believe we should be consciously acting as some kind of outside pressure group on the Democratic Party.  The job of revolutionaries is help make revolution.  And our thoughts and actions must be guided at every step by the goal of creating a radically new, liberated society.  

      And furthermore, if the rulers do start offering up concessions we should in no sense be satisfied or believe that our job has been done.  Our job is not over until the capitalists are brought to heel, until we the people abolish their political power.  Forever.

      If in the course of our struggles the rulers do throw us a bone or two, fine.  But we all know these concessions are made out of desperation and are subject to the shifting sands of the class struggle.  They can and will be taken away when the capitalists feel they can get away with it.    

      True and lasting power to the people will only be realized when the people themselves take it.

      We should rid our ranks of all impotent thinking. All views that overestimate the strength of the enemy and underestimate the strength of the people are wrong. -- Mao Zedong

      by GiveNoQuarter on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 05:41:58 AM PST

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      •  Biggest obstacle to revolution is... (1+ / 0-)
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        satanicpanic

        ...voting.

        It's just a hell of a lot less trouble to vote than it is to revolt. And the American poor, by and large, don't vote. If they did, we wouldn't need a revolution.

        In other words, if the majority are too damn lazy to vote, they're way too damn lazy to revolt.

        I know, I know, a major reason they don't vote is that none of the candidates or parties is serious enough about making real changes. But that's a chicken-and-egg problem. The candidates and parties respond to the people who turn out on election day, not to the people who stay home.

        I know, I know, campaign finance, Citizens United, etc. Money is very important, but in the end it's only a proxy for votes. Anybody who's determined can educate himself or herself beyond the commercials ($) and soundbites ($) and spin ($)...and vote accordingly. "Free your mind, your ass will follow." But not enough do.

        The problem with democracy is that, on average, we get the government we deserve. "We have met the enemy and he is us."

        "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

        by HeyMikey on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 06:57:14 AM PST

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        •  Your view is totally wrong. (0+ / 0-)

          The precise opposite of a correct class stand and thus the precise opposite of what we should be about as people seeking to liberate humanity.  

          Calling the most exploited and oppressed people in this society lazy?  Check.

          Blaming the most oppressed people in this society for the corruption, dysfunction and anti-representational nature of the political system?  Check.

          Pretending that bourgeois hegemony and class dictatorship are a chicken/egg problem instead of calling the rigged game for what it is?  Check.

          Claiming that this is a "democracy" and that the people deserve the horrors of poverty for not participating in a rigged game?  Check.  

          I think this post is a very useful reminder to all radical and revolutionary minded people out there of exactly how we shouldn't speak to the people.

          We should rid our ranks of all impotent thinking. All views that overestimate the strength of the enemy and underestimate the strength of the people are wrong. -- Mao Zedong

          by GiveNoQuarter on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 07:57:57 AM PST

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          •  Correction: they share the blame. (0+ / 0-)

            Of course the poor and oppressed are not completely to blame. I do not seek to exculpate the powerful exploiters by blaming the victim.

            But, as Dear Abby used to say, nobody can take advantage of you without your permission.

            So your accusations against me are not completely accurate, but mostly. And I'm OK with that. I'm not a Marxist; I'm a democrat, and a Democrat.

            "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

            by HeyMikey on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 08:52:39 AM PST

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  •  Must have been a long, long conversation. (3+ / 0-)
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    Gooserock, satanicpanic, HeyMikey
    After initial introduction, I told him everything that is currently wrong with the big banks.

    "If I can't dance, then I don't want to be in your revolution"--Emma Goldman

    by ehrenfeucht games on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 05:50:50 AM PST

  •  Interesting anecdote. (2+ / 0-)
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    Lately, I have noticed a big change in the way the tellers are greeting me when I enter the bank. They are taking more time to know about me and became more polite. Before OWS they wouldn't even look at me and go about their business without paying attention.

    But when you really think about it, what does it say?  It says that bank tellers, the lowest people on the totem pole and probably the only people employed by a bank that can actually be called workers, are being told by the likes of Jamie Dimon and his underlings to act as pr agents for their criminal activities.  In other words, the terrible burden of apologizing for the greatest heist in modern history is given to the people in the organization with the least amount of power.  The guy standing behind the drive-through window cashing my check making 12 bucks an hour doesn't have to apologize for anything.  

    We should rid our ranks of all impotent thinking. All views that overestimate the strength of the enemy and underestimate the strength of the people are wrong. -- Mao Zedong

    by GiveNoQuarter on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 05:53:32 AM PST

    •  Interestin anecdote. (0+ / 0-)
      Lately, I have noticed a big change in the way the tellers are greeting me when I enter the bank. They are taking more time to know about me and became more polite. Before OWS they wouldn't even look at me and go about their business without paying attention.

      But when you really think about it, what does it say?  It says that bank tellers, the lowest people on the totem pole and probably the only people employed by a bank that can actually be called workers, are being told by the likes of Jamie Dimon and his underlings to act as pr agents for their criminal activities.  In other words, the terrible burden of apologizing for the greatest heist in modern history is given to the people in the organization with the least amount of power.  The guy standing behind the drive-through window cashing my check making 12 bucks an hour doesn't have to apologize for anything.  

      We should rid our ranks of all impotent thinking. All views that overestimate the strength of the enemy and underestimate the strength of the people are wrong. -- Mao Zedong

      by GiveNoQuarter on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 05:56:10 AM PST

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  •  I did notice the tellers being a lot more polite (0+ / 0-)

    recently as well.

  •  Wealth Inequality Has Been Put Into Mainstream (1+ / 0-)
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    satanicpanic

    discussion for the first time since the Beatles. That was never going to be done by the Democratic Party or the President, left to their own devices or even vigorously supported by progressives.

    That alone has made it worthwhile for the moment.

    Remember the power structure has taken a 1-2 punch this year. Right off the bat when they set about dismantling things in many of the states, the unions immediately hit the ground with protest and hard practical activism of recall and repeal drives. It wasn't long before it was obvious that they had a lot of backing from millions of citizens impacted by other elements of the rightwing demolition program.

    And then Occupy sprang up and multiplied across the country, showing there was a sizeable movement of more intellectual types and youth willing to fight in more basic philosophical ways.

    --And unlike the 60's, the two movements are supportive this time. That makes this a much broader based resistance than we had with civil rights and Vietnam War resistance. It's closer to what developed in the 30's.

    As I said in Michael Moore's diary last night, Occupy should carry on doing what Occupy does best, and the rest of us who can't join in or who have different issues or preferences for resistance, should join other actions or movements or start new ones ourselves.

    This is how a people drive change, more and more groups of them start moving on. Full props to Occupy for changing the playing field.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Dec 07, 2011 at 06:44:31 AM PST

  •  All of that pleasant interaction with the tellers (0+ / 0-)

    and the conversation with the executive, that's what's known as surveillance of Occupy.  

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