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There are ominous signs everywhere that the new international fascist plutonomy is about to get on high gear with their repressive policies.  Yahoo! News is reporting that the city of London police placed the Occupy London movement in a "domestic terrorist watch list."

City of London Police have sparked controversy by producing a brief in which the Occupy London movement is listed under domestic terrorism/extremism threats to City businesses.

The document was given to protesters at their “Bank of Ideas” base on Sun Street – a former site of financial corporation UBS. City police have stepped up an effort to quell the movement since they occupied the building on 18 November, with the document stating: “It is likely that activists aspire to identify other locations to occupy, especially those they identify with capitalism.

It's obvious that we should expect that to happen here in the U.S. also, and very soon.  Just in time to coincide with the passage of the hideous Defense Authorization Act of 2012, which authorizes the military to detain U.S. citizens indefinitely and without trial.  These little, cowardly men, greedy, sniveling sociopaths are getting a little nervous about the fact that the people have awaken.  They will fail this time.

One day we may even have predator drones hunting down U.S. citizens right in the "homeland."

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  •  Two thoughts... (8+ / 0-)

    1) I would speculate the American OWS has been on an American terrorist watch list for months.  

    2) Given how Obama loves to lecture foreign police forces on how to act & react towards foreign protesters, & given how Obama loves to praise & defend protesters in other countries while remaining silent on the continuous horrible treatment of American protesters...I'm sure Obama is prepared to wag an angry finger at England for placing sacred foreign protesters on a terrorist watch list.

    When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in excess body fat and carrying a misspelled sign.

    by wyvern on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 07:06:30 PM PST

    •  He will do no such a thing. The rising fascist (2+ / 0-)
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      system is moving at blinding speed, encircling us, and the gates will be closed very soon.  At that point it will be clear to a large enough segment of the population what the real situation is, and together we'll break down the goddamned fascist apparatus in favor of freedom and democracy.

      But once again, the price is likely to be high since we let it happened.  I know that part of the reason is that is hard for good, normal, hard working people to comprehend the mind of the tyrant, the oppressor, the sociopath, which is capable of unquenchable greed, and unbounded cruelty.

    •  Be carefull what you wish for. (2+ / 0-)

      I don't think the British Government knows what they are in for.  This is a prelude to the sort of attention that makes these protests worse.  I think that the MET may be inadvertently green lighting police brutality (which tends to strengthen the movement).  

      Under capitalism man exploits man, under communism the roles are reversed.

      by DavidMS on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 07:15:11 PM PST

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      •  Police brutality weakens the movement. It (1+ / 0-)
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        creates fear in the population, intimidating most of the middle class.  What would really strengthen the movement would be careful planning, strategy, and close collaboration between all the "encampments" nationally and internationally.


        •  If... (0+ / 0-)

          ..police brutality weakens a protest movement,  then when that asshole pepper-sprayed the UC-Davis students in their faces, that would have marked the technical & literal end to the OWS movement.

          If it wasn't for the ignorant antics of Tony Baloney against those OWS women early on, OWS wouldn't be half as strong as vital as it is now.

          When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in excess body fat and carrying a misspelled sign.

          by wyvern on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 07:47:01 PM PST

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          •  I beg to disagree. On the Left, we've nurtured (0+ / 0-)

            a culture of victim-hood.  One that says that if we show the world how really bad the oppressors are, it will somehow gives us strength.

            It does the opposite... Nobody is watching.  We (the citizenry) are on our own.  Nobody is coming to help us.  We only have ourselves, and when it comes to confronting a brutal oppressor, showing weakness is a sure way to remain under their fascist boots.

            •  This disagreement between wyvern and (1+ / 0-)
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              Ray Pensador

              Ray Pensador exposes what is, at the least, a lack of definition as to the objective of the Occupy movement.  If the objective is only to complain, that is, to protest and if protesters feel they're making great progress when they can proclaim, "Terrific! Four of our heroes were the victims of police brutality tonight and a record 52 victims more were arrested," then seeking confrontations with police is what Occupy should be doing.  With luck, the movement can work through its mixed feelings of joy, success, and victim-hood when it gets a martyr.  If, on another hand, the objective is to inform, educate, and influence the 99%, then provoking the police is not a useful tool.  The 99% generally believes what parents and school taught, namely, that the police are there to protect the 100% from harm.  Occupy cannot positively influence if it looks like a threat to the police, which most of the 99% will see as a threat to themselves, if the don't simply turn off the annoying and tiresome scene and go to bed for the night.

              •  I think the goal is to change the conversation... (0+ / 0-)

                Squirrel Wisperer, I am with you on wanting to change the conversation.  I want to make electorally easy for the few real Democrats in office to drag their wimpy sometimes comrades into protecting us, the People of America.  Give them something to point to and say, "Deal with us, or try negating with that Ogre over there."  

                Under capitalism man exploits man, under communism the roles are reversed.

                by DavidMS on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 08:32:03 PM PST

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              •  What I think I'm having a hard time getting (1+ / 0-)
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                through is that there is such a thing as being able to organized in such a way that it allows you to project power.  I think that the challenge is that because we are civilians, not trained ins such matters, it's hard for people to understand this concept, and we see our options in a very narrow way: we are either beat up and abused by the authorities; or we become violent.

                Between the two positions there is a huge amount of room for maneuvering, but it requires an extraordinary amount of strategy, discipline and organization.

                And for some reason the tendency so far within the protest movement is to reject those concepts (strategy, discipline, organization, project power).

            •  Are you sugesting that violence is the right way? (0+ / 0-)

              Violence is a great way to loose.  We need the police to refuse to follow orders or a city government to fall to act against protesters.  We can't kick the rotten timbers out from under Wall Street, the 1% has to do it for us.  

              I hate the idea of passivity but it takes the type of strength, discipline and will that I don't have to engage in peaceful civil disobedience.  

              My hope is a peaceful collapse of Wall Street, the 1% and its Minions.  We will have a 50% chance from what I have read of having a real democracy afterwards.  If we use violence, its about 5%.  

              There are times to take up arms (see also: Spanish Civil War), but take a look at the damage the Weathermen did to the anti-war movement.  We live in a Federal Republic, albeit one that needs our love, not force of arms to save it.  

              Under capitalism man exploits man, under communism the roles are reversed.

              by DavidMS on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 08:27:13 PM PST

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      •  Quick fact check: (2+ / 0-)
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        The MET and the City of London Police are two different organisations. The City of London Police are responsible for "The Square Mile", the financial district. The Metropolitan Police Service are responsible for the rest of London and have some national responsibilities too. They have slightly different uniforms and the MET are by far the larger organisation. Easy mistake to make from a distance.

        "If the young are not initiated into the village, they will burn it down just to feel its warmth." African Proverb (-6.00,-7.03)

        by Foreign Devil on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 10:29:17 PM PST

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  •  Cats stuck in trees = terrorists (3+ / 0-)

    If police in London are like police in the US; then the "terrorist watch" list looks an awful lot like the "people that annoy the police and keep them from watching the Chelsea match" list.

  •  But the UK judge disagrees (2+ / 0-)
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    According to BBC News, a judge granted Occupy protestors in London the right to stay (at least for now, pending further hearings) in a UBS building they took over in mid-November.

    The police will not have the final word on this -- the Brits take their legal rights seriously.

  •  And in the US, following the UK's lead (0+ / 0-)

    and the new disappearing powers granted to the executive, entire encampments simply vanish overnight.

    /1982 (I hope)

    Reality has a liberal bias.

    by Hayate Yagami on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 07:39:02 PM PST

  •  Protesters are deemed "Low Level Terrorists" (1+ / 0-)
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    by the U.S. State Dept. already. Does anyone really think that a Republican President will put up with these pesky OWS people given that it is clear he'll have the authority to detain them indefinitely? Obama will try to triangulate this movement and use some elements of it for political gain so I don't see him authorizing indefinite detentions of protesters even if his corporate masters pressure him to. Gingrich on the other hand will have no such reservations.

    "As we celebrate mediocrity all the boys upstairs want to see how much you'll pay for what you used to get for free"

    by Tim D M on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 08:15:48 PM PST

  •  Britain put Iceland on the terrorist list when (5+ / 0-)

    Iceland refused to bail out it's banks.

    No wonder they included OWS.

    From TIME 2008:

    Iceland to Britain: 'We're No Terrorists'

  •  That story is dated December 5. Here is more (4+ / 0-)
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    ... up-to-date information:

    Judge visits Occupy London camp at St Paul's Cathedral

    Protesters moved into St Paul's Churchyard on 15 October, Finsbury Square on 22 October and an empty UBS bank building in Hackney on 18 November.

    The protesters in the disused bank office can stay until at least January, after a judge on Monday agreed an appeal hearing could take place against a possession order granted to UBS.

  •  Questionable (5+ / 0-)

    but not surprising that they would do this there, or here.  After all, the NYPD Counterterrorism unit has been spotted with OWS numerous times.

     I don't know if it is clear yet what the heck the police were doing with that memo.  That story has been around for a couple weeks.  This Guardian story is from a few days ago:

    A City of London police source admitted that the "title of the document was not helpful" and denied that it labelled or intended to label the Occupy movement as equivalent to al-Qaida.

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