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By now, everyone's heard that Newtie's ex-wife is gonna finally spill that Newt wanted a formal "open marriage," rather than go on the DL for his side nookie.

This won't affect any sane person's opinion of Newt.  Anyone who's paying attention knows that Newtie wants a de facto open marriage anyways.  But it will kill Newt for the same reason that Cain's affair killed him.

Conservatives are often accused of not understanding consent.  I disagree.  They understand it just fine; they're just opposed to it.  As long as Cain was accused of violent sexual assault, he was supporting the Patriarchy, and the voters loved him.  But as soon as he entered into a loving and relatively equal long-term relationship, that was the end of him.

Newt's going to have the same issue.  Nobody cares if he sleeps around, as long as he keeps up the most minimal of appearances.  But the moment Gingrich treats his wife with respect, and tries to work with her in an open, honest fashion . . . yeah, no.  The problem isn't that Newt wanted an "open marriage."  The problem was that he was willing to let his wife decline the invitation.

But one thing that won't happen, under any circumstances, is an open, honest conversation about how adult human beings who love one another can work together to get each other's needs met.  Conservatives are simply too inherently disposed to cruelty and lies to be willing to participate.

Originally posted to Punditus Maximus on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 03:27 PM PST.

Also republished by Kos Georgia.

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  •  Tip Jar (3+ / 0-)

    The two things Teabaggers hate most are: being called racists; and black people.

    "It takes balls to execute an innocent man." -- anonymous GOP focus group member on Rick Perry

    by Punditus Maximus on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 03:27:16 PM PST

  •  Republicans are morally-retarded perverts (3+ / 0-)

    and sex fiends who can't keep their tiny dicks in their pants while whining that other people - particularly non-whites - are having SEX.

  •  It didn't *completely* kill Cain -- he's replaced (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Cedwyn

    Bachmann as this year's Tea Party response buffoon after the State of the Union.

  •  Is Newt's current marriage open? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Cedwyn, G2geek

    Is Callista free to follow her heart/hormones?

    Inquiring libidos are desperate to know!

    Am I right, or am I right? - The Singing Detective

    by Clem Yeobright on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 03:58:45 PM PST

  •  You're Diary Makes Sense... (5+ / 0-)

    ...except that Newt asked for the open marriage 6 years into his lies and deceits. You can only claim honesty and integrity in such a situation when a spouse asks for consent before going into affair(s). An honest discussion can then evolve over the needs of each partner and of the relationship, and an intelligent decision made on how to proceed.

    Doing it as Newt did is simply seeking justification for the most dishonest way a spouse can treat the other in a relationship.

    "I never met a man I didn't like." Will Rogers - American Redneck

    by chuco35 on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 04:09:28 PM PST

    •  ding ding ding ding! We have a winner! (1+ / 0-)
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      eataTREE

      If there's not consent before the affair begins, then it's defrauding the spouse on the terms of the marital contract, and potentially exposing the spouse to STDs, some of which are life-threatening.

      As for peoples' "neeee-eeee-eeeeeds!", they can either get consent of their partner first, or divorce them before beginning the affair, or get to a psychologist and learn how to stop being so neee-eeee-eeeedy.  

      Testosterone overdose does not justify treating your partner like shit.  

      And if someone wants to take a gamble on the sexual futures market, they also deserve to be exposed to the risk that they'll lose (divorce the spouse and then it doesn't work out with the paramour so they're left high & dry).  

      F--- Newt, and f--- Cain, and they can go f--- each other for all I care.  Actually that would be really funny.  

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 05:22:33 PM PST

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    •  You're explaining why liberals would find (1+ / 0-)
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      chuco35

      Newt's actions to be odious.  Conservatives aren't upset about the affairs; they're upset about Newt's seeking official sanction -- and being willing to discuss the issue openly.

      I definitely agree that Newtie's actions are horrific to most human beings.

      The two things Teabaggers hate most are: being called racists; and black people.

      "It takes balls to execute an innocent man." -- anonymous GOP focus group member on Rick Perry

      by Punditus Maximus on Thu Jan 19, 2012 at 06:58:07 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Newt does not want an open marriage (4+ / 0-)
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    cassandracarolina, Cedwyn, G2geek, Utahrd

    he wanted a learner's permit.  Question for these serial marryers is why they do it?  Can't they find enough partners with their $$$$ to not have to marry everyone they sleep with?

  •  And no doubt the "open" (1+ / 0-)
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    G2geek

    was only meant for Newt, as he probably thought she couldn't find someone better than him to replace him.

    Geez.  

    Hilarious diary!

  •  But that's different (0+ / 0-)

    Evangelical Protestants can't vote for Romney because his ancestors were polygamists.

    But they can vote for Ashley Madison Poster Boy Newt Gingrich.

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