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As I suspected late last week, South Carolina was wooed by the naughty professor Newt Gingrich into giving up her moral values for the bad boy swagger. Even the accusations of "open marriage" from his wife weren't enough, as the state one time considered a pillar of traditional values cheered Newt admonishment of the "moralizing mainstream media" for even bringing up the topic at a debate.

Now, like a wife with a hint of illness, Newt will leave South Carolina with nothing but a reputation and ridicule from the Establishment.

Now I don't think this is the end of Romney or the start of the ascendance of Newt. I don't think Newt has the staying power like he did in his younger days (just consider his inability to make it with Virginia). He might suffer from a moderate case of electile dysfunction, but he has enough skill to make it a tougher fight for Romney.

The anti-Romney voters no doubt overlap heavily with the section of the population that wants Obama to fail, regardless of the national implications. No amount of national destruction, disgrace or collapse is too great if it means a Republican in the White House. But since the collapse of America is inevitable regardless of which candidate they choose, there is a difference in the types of apocalypse we'll see. The country would collapses under Romney or Santorum as well, but those will be the dull, slow declines, as dry as the fall of the British Empire. I focus on the two truly apocalyptic candidates for comparison: Gingrich and Ron Paul.

The difference between the two can be simplified into this. Ron Paul believes his ideas will save America, while Newt Gingrich believes Newt Gingrich will save civilization. More on how that affects the post-apocalyptic scenarios below the fold.

The evidence that Ron Paul believes in his ideas while Newt Gingrich believes in himself is easy to find. It's a known fact that Ron Paul is playing a long game of elections. As far back as the 2008 a campaign staff member was talking about him being analogous to  Barry Goldwater leading to Ronald Reagan's election. Paul believes he can hand off his ideas forward to others to run with, most likely his son Rand Paul. (More on that later).

Gingrich, however, believes only Gingrich can save us.Notes of his published by Slate show a man who believes himself to be the messiah of civilization, a "system designer" who will make all the crooked places straight. Just a sample of the mind of Gingrich

Gingrich—Primary Mission
—Advocate of civilization
—definer of civilization
—Teacher of the rules of civilization
—arouser of those who form civilization
—Organizer of the pro-civilization activists
—leader (possibly) of the civilizing forces.

So how will these characteristics affect the post-apocalyptic landscape of a Non-Romney Republican candidacy? Well, the dystopian futures are as different as Mad Max and V for Vendetta.

A Ron Paul candidacy would probably flop as bad as Barry Goldwater in 1964, but nomination or not, there might be enough of a structure for a Rand Paul run in 2016. Of course, Rand will, like George W Bush, be gaining his position based on his father's name while preaching a "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" libertarian message. And Rand lacks the charisma of Ron Paul. Rather than a Randian superman, he'll most likely be what Dubya was to Bush 41.

As Rand enacts the Paul family political goals, you can expect a quick downfall in civilization. The radical individualism will lead to economic crashes, collapse of social institutions and the end of the rule of law. Without taxes to support education, infrastructure and roads the country will slip into an anarchy. As the nation falls around him, Rand and his supporters will scream even louder against government and blame the few remaining regulations against child labor and workplace smoking bans as thereal reason the country is failing.

But for the hardcore supporters of Ron and Rand, it will be paradise. Many are already equipped with guns, ammo, provisions and survivalist skills. Paul for President stickers from 2008, 2012 and 2016 will adorn the choppers of the motorcycle gangs causing terror is the few outposts remaining in the charred wasteland of America.

The Newt supporters, however, will not be getting what they ask or are prepared for. Against all evidence, they have decided to anoint the serial adulterer who abandons his sick wives as the savior of Christian civilization. A Gingrich presidency will be akin to the hypocritical cronyism of the film V for Vendetta, where false piety faintly masks the naked grab for money and power. The supporters will cheer as Newt chases the gays and lesbians from the military, purge the civil service of dissenting views, and firing union janitors to replace them with children.

But Newt's civilization model requires vast wasteful military spending and constant enemies. But there are only so many gay socialist Muslims that listen to NPR, so new ones will need to be found. When church charity workers start calling for aid to the struggling poor caused by the economic collapse, Newt will simply claim that there are communists in the churches and call for more purges. When dropping coins in a Salvation Army collection pot leads to an IRS audit and when every new Gingrich mistress revelation is followed up with a new war to distract America, the Christian Right will suddenly realize it made a pact with the devil. To atone for their sins, they will have to humble themselves and join the army of Good Samaritans that will rise to oppose Newt.

Occupy Wall Street Anonymous 2011 Shankbone
Samaritans look a little different nowadays (photo by David Shankbone)

The Republican base has a choice: End civilization as we know it and spend the rest of their lives in the charred remains of our shared heritage, or they can empower and megalomaniacal bastard that's routinely thinks himself above our peasant's morality and the Constitution and only seeks to create the world in his own image.

Or, you know, they can realize they can't get everything they want right away and work with others. Radical moderatism, yes, but sometimes you have to leave the comfort of the fringes to get stuff done.

Originally posted to PhilipMoon on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 03:11 AM PST.

Also republished by ClassWarfare Newsletter: WallStreet VS Working Class Global Occupy movement and Community Spotlight.

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  •  You have to acknowledge Newt's abilities.... (13+ / 0-)

    He has chosen to use rhetoric that not only resonates with the wackadoodles, ("those elites in the media! and in Washington!) but it also means the more they attack him, the more they prove him right!

    The more Romney has to spend to defeat him, the more Romney looks like a stooge.  All Romney has is his cash.

    Gingrich looks like he may have Romney not only in Check, but in Check-Mate.  

    Those people who bailed from Newt's campaign in the early days...I think they should probably book flights to Sweden.  Because this guy has a loooooong and vengeful memory.

  •  Of course you fail to mention... (5+ / 0-)

    ...the possibility of a massive surge of Santorum flooding the land from coast to coast.

    But maybe that's for the best, someone might be eating breakfast...

    Everything Right is Wrong Again - TMBG (lyrics)

    by GreenPA on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 03:42:05 AM PST

    •  As crazy as this GOP primary is, and has been (1+ / 0-)
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      rmabelis

      and continues to be, a Santorum surge (giggle) would not surprise me.

      But Newt winning SC? Wilco Tango Foxtrot. Newt supported everything the GopT seems to hate about W. Is it just a rebellion against their masters?

      "I don't need a script to tell the truth" Ed Schultz, Feb. 4 2010

      by BusyinCA on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 05:45:56 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  compare & contrast: (6+ / 0-)

    In the Paul apocalypse, progressive local communities will at least be able to remain reasonably intact and dissidents won't be persecuted mercilessly.

    In the Newt apocalypse, you can be quite sure there will be purge after purge after purge, with just enough torture to scare everyone else into keeping their heads down (but not enough to stir up a revolt).  Nowhere will be safe.  Especially not places such as the San Francisco Bay Area, certain parts of the Pacific Northwest, and certain parts of the Northeast and New England: they will be targeted mercilessly.

    "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

    by G2geek on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 04:04:39 AM PST

  •  To them, civilization has all ready collapsed. (13+ / 0-)

    The President is a Negro. That's what makes them dangerous. They don't care any more.

    I think I'll stick with the smart guy.

    by PowWowPollock on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 04:38:31 AM PST

  •  however let's not discount the Mittpocalypse. (10+ / 0-)

    Mitt's so darn bland it's easy to discount extreme scenarios and assume that life will merely get slowly & steadily worse.

    Bush wasn't even in office long enough to have a baby, and through his neglect of intel briefings, our guard was down just long enough for a handful of evil men to fly planes into buildings.  

    And it got worse from there, culminating in what I call "9/11+7," seven years and seven days to the day later, when the financial shit hit the fan on 9/18/2008.  (No conspiracy needed for this one either: merely the individual greed of those who tried to bail before the election intending to beat their buddies before the shit hit the fan.  Thereby triggering the stampede that caused the crash, and happily caused enough Republicans to think of their wallets before their prejudices and vote for our first black president.)

    Mitt, to his credit, probably won't blow it off the next time the head of CIA tries to call him with something urgent.

    Instead he'll just foster an even more predatory economic landscape, where "having it ALL" isn't even enough, and the plutocracy aims for "having it ALL and then MORE."

    Unemployment at 20% by the official numbers, foreclosures skyrocketing while fraud schemes multiply like little mice, "workhouses" for the homeless and then for poor single parents (with Newt chuckling that if Mitt had balls he'd go the rest of the distance and open orphanages for their offspring)...  

    Obama's compromised health legislation will be gutted even further, retaining the "personal mandate" but stripping out the parts about pre-existing conditions and rate caps.  

    While crowing about "introducing some diversity" into a Supreme Court that presently reads like a Who's Who of Opus Dei (the extreme right of the Catholic universe, the polar opposite of Catholic Worker), he'll appoint as many overt Dominionists and NARasites (look it up: New Apostolic Reformation) as he can get away with.  

    Under a Mitt regime, there will be at least one death of a liberal Justice, about which the question of poisoning will be raised by responsible people and debated in these pages.   But that's just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.  

    SOPA and worse will pass with a vengeance, turning the Internet into another form of cable TV.  Combined surveillance infrastructure will be put into place including the "new internet",  "smart" electric meters, and cellphone location tracking and GPS tracking of automobiles.  Credit bureaux will have access not only to your prescription medicine data, but also to the newly digitalized notes of mental health professionals from family counselors to psychologists to psychiatrists.  One or two lone wolf captures will be enough to silence critics about the last item.  

    Infrastructure neglect will run rampant, with bridge and highway overpasses being taken out of service or merely collapsing.  Due to funding shortages, garbage collection will be cut back to every other week in a number of major cities, giving rise to summer swarms of flies and annual dysentery outbreaks reminiscent of the 19th century.  At least two major cities will find their public water supplies unsanitary to drink, and multinationals will rush in to supply the public with bottled water at prices higher than gasoline.  

    Meanwhile the climate crisis will continue to worsen, and Mitt will finally meet his one point of obvious common ground with Bush: a major violent storm will wreck a metropolitan area, and the rebuilding will be thoroughly botched.  The refugees from the more Democratic parts of the area will be permanently "relocated" to deeply Red congressional districts, their votes dispersed and diffused into meaninglessness.  

    The religious right will be given its prerogatives over the culture, with abortion bans finally passing Supreme Court muster, and contraception bans being touted in a number of states.  

    And at some point in this swirling cesspool, we will finally see some of the "Obama Sucks: Don't Vote" crowd here either writing GBCW diaries and signing off, or writing "deeply personal and emotional" diaries confessing the errors of their ways.  By that time it will be too late, but nonetheless their diaries will reach sympathetic eyes, who will attempt to assuage their guilt with the usual comforting words.  

    And pootie diaries will still regularly make the Rec list, with a whole new genre of Mitt & Kitty LOLcat graphics to keep us amused while we watch our country go even further down the drain.

    "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

    by G2geek on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 04:58:59 AM PST

    •  Mitt may not govern like he talks (2+ / 0-)
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      BusyinCA, Kurt Sperry

      As Governor of Massachusetts he was considerably more pragmatic, even moderate. But pragmatism and moderation are hard sells in today's GOP base, so he's trying hard to campaign as a badass conservative.

      I agree that he would be totally in the sway of the 0.01% and their lobbyists -- but that wouldn't be a significant change. Other than that, he might turn out to be merely insufferable and wimpy.

      Newt, on the other hand, we know how he governs: as he campaigns, with temper-tantrums and provocative trial-balloons and it's all about him. God help us.

      •  He might not want to govern as he talks (0+ / 0-)

        but a tea party controlled House and Senate would make him see the error of his ways. Besides if he doesn't govern as he talks he becomes a 1 term President who fails to be renominated by his own party.

        •  We might wish it so... (1+ / 0-)
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          rmabelis

          But consider that Mitt had a liberal state with a legislature that was (and is) pretty liberal.

          Now imagine Mr Weathervane and a GOP House, and the national party demanding he stick to his promises. Without any discernible moral core or ideology other than them with the gold should keep it and make the rules... I think we'd see the worst of plutocracy--with him pandering to the rest of the GOP base by actually giving them large slices of the hell they demand we get.

          "Be just and good." John Adams to Thomas Jefferson

          by ogre on Tue Jan 24, 2012 at 04:56:58 AM PST

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    •  Great material for a dystopian future. (1+ / 0-)
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      apimomfan2

      Let's hope it's just a novel/movie, not a blueprint.

      "I don't need a script to tell the truth" Ed Schultz, Feb. 4 2010

      by BusyinCA on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 05:49:52 PM PST

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  •  T&R'd (6+ / 0-)

    for "electile dysfunction" alone.

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 11:38:56 AM PST

  •  You forgot the part where millions of Americans (5+ / 0-)

    move to Canada, join the NDP or Liberals, and change the course of that country.

    "Mistress of the Topaz" is now available in paperback! Link here: http://www.double-dragon-ebooks.com/single.php?ISBN=1-55404-900-8

    by Kimball Cross on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 11:50:33 AM PST

  •  Nothing new (5+ / 0-)

    Please note that the "heroes" of Atlas Shrugged who spend the book sitting around congratulating each other on their self-reliance are all wealthy twenty-somethings who inherited their money from parents who gained their millions in the railroad industry, one of the most heavily government-subsidized commercial enterprises in history.

    Objectivism has been self-contradictory nonsense from the first, but amazingly, the tactics and nonsense still sell.  And it isn't just the Paul's.  Gingrich copies the methods of Ayn Rand every time he mentions the fictitious boogey-men he is supposedly opposed to.  ("Those who want to make us dependent on government handouts."  "[Black] people who are satisfied with a handout instead of a paycheck.")

    Again, this is all part of the standard playbook.  And the book that explains it all is five years old (see below).  And still scary, as we see the methods that were described in it being applied right here in America to destroy our economy, culture, and people.

    "... there is no humane way to rule people against their will." Naomi Klein, The Shock Doctrine

    by Noziglia on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 12:01:45 PM PST

    •  Well, except for Galt (0+ / 0-)

      Just trying to be accurate.

      I read AS (ha!) as a tragedy: for Eddie Willers.  That dude got fucked over.

      •  I had forgotten about him (0+ / 0-)

        but according to Wikipedia he is the representative of the common man without skills, but "moral courage'. However, he ends up with the broken down train with no indication that the Striking Rich will come to save him despite his loyalty. A perfect metaphor for the fact that even in the perfect Randian world, the average person can be so easily cast aside. Just like Mitt like to fire people.

  •  CHOOOOOOSE. (2+ / 0-)
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    wonderful world, pHunbalanced

    CHOOOOOOSE THE FORM OF THE DESTRUCTORRRRR.

  •  Philip, thank you, may I select none of the above? (1+ / 0-)
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    BusyinCA

    An ex-pat friend of mine has shared a music video of Bob Dylan's support for the 99%.  It's not about class warfare.

    Without friends on the far left how would anyone find the center that unites US all?

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    http://youtu.be/...


  •  A Few Questions: (2+ / 0-)
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    ybruti, Calamity Jean

    Today I saw a comment by Aukflauer:

    The very rich, the very religious, the very racist
    the right-wing fringe of American society, over-blown in political importance by an electoral system that actively discourages voting and over-represents states where no-one lives.

    Do we need to re-examine this system?

    Do we need to question a system that has Justices like Roberts, Scalia, Alito, Thomas interpreting laws?

    Do we need to wonder about a system that has a Minority Leader like McConnel who is able to shut down the Senate?

    Do we need to go back to drawing board when we end up with a Congress clogged with a Tea Party and run by the likes of Boehner and Cantor?

    Do we need to ask ourselves what Ben Franklin would say about today's Republican Party?

    Do we need to wonder what our founding Fathers and Mothers would think of Gingrich, RMoney, Santorum and Ron Paul?

    Do we need to think about the embarassment that today's Republican Party is to Abraham Lincoln?

    Impeach Grover Norquist! Defeat a Republican!

    by NM Ray on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 12:52:20 PM PST

  •  I think what they actually want (3+ / 0-)
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    Calamity Jean, apimomfan2, CalvinV

    Is not so much distorted solutions to the problems, but instead want silence about them. As long as the republicans can ignore ordinary American's big problems, like lack of health care, no jobs, rapacious bankers and the like, then they can get back to pillaging the country at will. Then, if they need a feel good story, they can swoop in to help out one poor family about to be evicted (provided they have the right politics, of course), and become a local hero in the media. Never mind there are millions of other people facing the same. That is why control of the media, from net neutrality to SOPA/PIPA to Fox Propaganda are so important to them.

    Do Pavlov's dogs chase Schroedinger's cat?

    by corwin on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 12:59:01 PM PST

  •  Concerning the attached poll... (2+ / 0-)
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    bigrivergal, BusyinCA

    where do I check to indicate the corporate takeover of the US government dystopia we currently are living in. It's laughable how apparent the coup has been, ever since 2000, the patriot act shortly after that when I was just transitioning from middle school to high school, and people are just now confronting the fact in the open.

    Those of us who grew up watching the political system work (or not work) while we ruminated on the consequences and discussed our own ideas openly, using the internet with amazing savvy, have come of age. It's not about hand-outs or cruelty of the "real world" for the youth, it's about a life-long recognition of dysfunction and our own insatiable desire to remedy it.

    Occupy.

  •  The coup goes back a lot farther than 2000. (7+ / 0-)

    In fact, it goes back to Nixon. The Republicans figured out how to use the Southern strategy, coupled with first class organizing and money raising skills to create a political machine the likes of which we haven't seen before. Democrats had to play catch-up, both in terms of organization and fundraising. What did they do to raise money? They sold influence in the political process. In my view, both parties are corrupted. Where might our best chance be to change things? What can be done?

    Through the Occupy movement, a Constitutional amendment, or some other similar action, we need to get the money out of politics. We need to get people active - active in labor unions, active in Democratic politics, active in talking to our friends and neighbors. It's time for our political system to serve the needs of the 99%. The 1% have more than enough resources to take care of themselves.

    •  Getting money out of campaigning would be the (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Kentucky DeanDemocrat

      best way to prevent future abuses. Whoever figures out how we get there from here deserves a Nobel or two and an Oscar (for best supporting part with an actor or a politician). Also Peoples choice award. No Razzberries.

      "I don't need a script to tell the truth" Ed Schultz, Feb. 4 2010

      by BusyinCA on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 06:07:02 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Ron Paul nut job anti-Semite. (0+ / 0-)

    Ron Paul nut job anti-Semite... Newt the suck-up who called him an anti-Semite… Dat’s the difference

    Nudniks need not apply.

    by killermiller on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 04:49:06 PM PST

  •  As much as I want to believe the Republicans are (3+ / 0-)

    destroying themselves, there still exists a very real possibility that one of these lunatics gets elected president of these United States.  We need to keep that thought very much in our consciousness.  

    The sun's not yellow, it's chicken. B. Dylan

    by bgblcklab1 on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 07:47:19 PM PST

  •  I'd be careful (0+ / 0-)

    labeling Anonymous as "Good Samaritans". They are beginning to look and act a lot like a terrorist organization who has openly declared war against the US Government.

    •  In a world where Santorum can call rape God's Gift (0+ / 0-)

      to women, it's not absurd to call Anonymous the Good Samaritans of the age.

      //Plus the Guy Fawkes was aimed for more on the broader Occupy movement.

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