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Last night, Mitt Romney explained his 1992 vote for former Massachusetts Senator Paul Tsongas in the Democratic primary as a vote against Bill Clinton. "I've never voted for a Democrat when there was a Republican on the ballot," he said. "And any chance I got to vote against Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy, I took." Romney's bottom-line? "I have always voted for a Republican any time there was a Republican on the ballot."

Okay, fair enough. Romney is saying he's a Republican, but given the chance to vote against Bill Clinton in 1992, he decided to meddle in the Democratic primary. If he'd had the opportunity to vote for a Republican in the Republican primary, he'd have jumped at the chance, but lacking that, he voted Democratic.

Seems reasonable, except there was a Republican primary. But it's not just the facts that get in the way of Mitt Romney's explanation. It's Mitt Romney himself, because just about each time he's explained the vote, he's explained it differently.

On December 15, 1993, The Boston Globe reported that Romney said "he couldn't recall" for whom he had voted. Six weeks later, the Globe reported that Romney "confirmed he voted for former US Sen. Paul Tsongas." Why? Because "favored his ideas over those of Bill Clinton." Then in October of 1994, The Washington Post reported that Romney "publicizes his brief stint as a Democrat to support ex-senator Paul Tsongas in the 1992 presidential primary."

Flash forward 13 years to February, 2007 and Romney offered a completely different rationale in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos: "When there was no real contest in the Republican primary, I’d vote in the Democrat primary, vote for the person who I thought would be the weakest opponent for the Republican."

So Romney has gone from not being able to recall who he voted for, to saying he voted for Tsongas because he liked Tsongas, to saying his vote for Tsongas shows he is bipartisan, to saying he voted for Tsongas to oppose Bill Clinton, to saying he voted for Tsongas to weaken the Democrats, to saying he only voted for Tsongas because he didn't have a chance to vote for a Republican. Except, of course, he did.

So what does Mitt Romney really believe? Nobody really knows. And that probably includes Mitt Romney himself.

Originally posted to The Jed Report on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 07:33 AM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Mitt Romney lies. (22+ / 0-)

    He will say anything reardless of truth.  he markets himself like a product.

    The man lacks a moral center.

    I'm from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner Wing of the Democratic Party!

    by TomP on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 07:38:17 AM PST

  •  It's like the kama sutra of politics. (17+ / 0-)

    I mean, where else have you seen so many positions in one place?

    P.S. I am not a crackpot.

    by BoiseBlue on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 07:38:29 AM PST

  •  Those aren't flip flops, they are cartwheels. (14+ / 0-)

    Next we will hear that his trustee makes those decisions and voted for him, and he was unaware of who it was the trustee decided to vote for, so he really isn't responsible for the vote cast in his name.

    "On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps...of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again."

    by middleagedhousewife on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 07:44:02 AM PST

  •  Saying whatever suits the occasion (6+ / 0-)
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    mama jo, TomP, Kinak, lgmcp, fsbohnet, trillian

    I've known people like this -- they don't "lie," because whatever comes out of their mouth isn't intended as a factual statement. That's not the way their brain works, searching for accurate memories and then formulating a verbal response that matches the memory. Instead, what they say is designed to mollify whoever is standing in front of them at that moment and make the question go away. I don't think this is necessarily conscious -- I think it comes from long practice, probably from the first time a child says "it was the cat who ate that cookie" and Mom smiles and stops yelling at you. Hey, it worked! Let's keep it!

    I have no idea if this is Romney's issue but his inconsistency is so persistent that I gotta wonder.

    •  I think that's a very perceptive take. (0+ / 0-)

      The fact that discrepancies will easily be proved later, does not deter such persons because they can't FEEL the imporantance of a discrepancy.   And they believe no doubt that we are ALL doing it that way all the time -- saying whatever seems most expedient in the moment.

      "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

      by lgmcp on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:45:10 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Well, there was and there wasn't. (4+ / 0-)
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    So Romney has gone from not being able to recall who he voted for, to saying he voted for Tsongas because he liked Tsongas, to saying his vote for Tsongas shows he is bipartisan, to saying he voted for Tsongas to oppose Bill Clinton, to saying he voted for Tsongas to weaken the Democrats, to saying he only voted for Tsongas because he didn't have a chance to vote for a Republican. Except, of course, he did.

    That year, the Republicans had an incumbent President.  So, if you are in a state like Mass, you have a choice to vote in a Republican primary where your vote is pretty much meaningless, or vote in a still-contested Democratic primary where your vote might mean something.  

    If Mass. was one of those states where you have a choice which primary to vote in, it doesn't seem all that far-fetched that a number of Mass. Repubs would have voted in that Democratic primary.   I suspect that they all voted GHWB in the general.  

    It's the reverse today, I suspect.  If a state gives you the choice between voting in the Democratic Primary (if there are minor candidates on the ballot against the President) and the Republican primary this year, I would guess that a number of Democrats would vote in the Republican primary, simply because the vote matters there.  In fact, weren't people here encouraging some Dems to vote in Republican primaries (where that is possible) to help pick their candidate -- presumably, voting for a candidate that would keep the nomination fight going and/or be easier to defeat in the fall?  

    •  Sure. Some people do this (4+ / 0-)
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      And if this was what he did, he should have just said so. The story is his multiple incongruent explanations. Since he's given so many different explanations, there's no way to tell what his real motivation was. But that's just the way it is with most anything to do with Mitt.

      48forEastAfrica - Donate to Oxfam "Compassion is the radicalism of our time." ~ Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama -7.88, -6.21

      by Siri on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:32:46 AM PST

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      •  I think he has said exactly that. (1+ / 0-)
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        VClib

        See, for example, here:

        "In Massachusetts, if you register as an independent, you can vote in either the Republican or Democratic primary," said Romney, who until he made an unsuccessful run for Senate in 1994 had spent his adult life as a registered independent. "When there was no real contest in the Republican primary, I’d vote in the Democrat primary, vote for the person who I thought would be the weakest opponent for the Republican."
        •  what a tool (1+ / 0-)
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          wesinCA

          so for years he was really a republican but registered independent just to play games with his one little vote in the primaries?

          Newt Gingrich: Believes marriage is between one man and a series of ever younger women. Wife #1 born ~ 1936, divorced when in her mid-40s...Wife #2 born ~1947, divorced when in her mid-40s...Wife #3 born ~1966.

          by trillian on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 09:41:55 AM PST

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        •  That's what he said in 2007 (1+ / 0-)
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          It may be what actually motivated him, but he sure said something different to Massachusetts voters when he was running a statewide, not a national, campaign.  

          There's no case for defending Romney on this.  

    •  And what has that to do (0+ / 0-)

      with Romney's proliferating explanations of why he voted for Tsongas (or maybe didn't vote for) Tsongas?

    •  Yes, gaming the primaries of the other party (0+ / 0-)

      has a certain logic to it, though not something I'm all that comfortable with for myself.    And maybe that IS what Mitt thought he was doing at the time.  

      But given his weathervane tendencies, who can ever tell?  

      And Occam's razor would suggest that he probably voted for Tsongas because at the time Tsongas was the candidate he wanted to see in office.

      "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

      by lgmcp on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:51:01 AM PST

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    •  You only have a choice in MA if you are (0+ / 0-)

      "unenrolled" (not registered as a Dem or Rep).  If you are registered with a party, you have to vote in that party's primary.

      So, why wasn't Mittens a registered Republican in 1992??

      •  Makes sense now. (1+ / 0-)
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        VClib

        He has said he was an independent until 1994.  So, he would have been able to vote in either primary.  

        So, with no real contest in the Republican primary, he voted in the Dem primary.  

        I suspect a lot of independents did that.

    •  Mitt Doesn't Inhale. He SUCKS! (5+ / 0-)

      I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Republican Party.

      by OnlyWords on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:44:20 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  I like your post. (0+ / 0-)

        Have you ever looked at Willard's eyes? They are flat and lifeless. Next time he opens his pie hole on TV, look at his eyes and the way he moves, like a robot.
        Oh! Wait! He is a robot. A tool for the "church." I would call him a moron, but I don't want to insult morons.

        This year will be known as the "American Awakening" and the 99% are who will make it happen. Obama is saying, "Make me do what you want me to do!"

        Just as prostitution is the world's oldest profession, religion is the world's oldest scam.

        by Agent420 on Sat Jan 28, 2012 at 09:37:02 AM PST

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    •  I'm not sure. (2+ / 0-)
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      Even if it's just air. There's always been a suggestion of a cyborg with a minor malfunction there.

      That said, it's astonishing, and wonderful, that he just keeps doing this stuff. You would think that by now his handlers would have coached him out of it.

      I overheard one of the few right-wingers I know personally tell someone, "Romney has no core beliefs". She's right, of course, but the beauty part is that for once the right wing is in touch with reality.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:48:48 AM PST

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  •  Only his super pac and blind trusts know for sure. (0+ / 0-)
    So what does Mitt Romney really believe?

    Just give me some truth. John Lennon--- OWS------Too Big To Fail

    by burnt out on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:16:19 AM PST

  •  Romney = Shameless Panderer (2+ / 0-)
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    shoeless, Samer

    I would rather listen to Dr. Nasty (Gingrich) than this guy. Why isn't he selling used Gremlins or Vegas or something?

  •  I strategic vote all the time. (2+ / 0-)
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    I usually vote for libertarians when I know the Dem is either a shoe in, or has no chance at all.  The Libertarians are a BIG thorn in the Republicans rear end, (Ron Paul).

    Playing the flip flop angle is one thing, but I'd leave the fact he voted in a Dem primary alone.

  •   When is Kos store (2+ / 0-)
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    Starting to sell  Romney Flip Flops, he could become a  very rcih ,selling them making fun at Romney  

  •  Mitt Romney believes in, wait for it....... (2+ / 0-)
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    MITT ROMNEY!

  •  Are All Polititicans Alike? (0+ / 0-)

    It is interesting that in this regard he is quite similar to Newt Gingrich and so many other republican politicians, who like to tell each audience what they want to hear, but when confronted with a larger and more encompassing audience either again and again change their rationale or fumble to find the appropriate excuse.

    It seems this is the essence of being a politician and unfortunately why politicians are increasingly less likely to be able to solve our problems.  It is quite revealing in his attack on the media that Gingrich complained about the media as "making it impossible to govern".  Romney's problem here goes a long way toward explaining Gingrich's problem.  The modern nature of the pervasive news cycle and the internet give them no where to hide their doublespeak.

    This is a issue that Democrats need to learn themselves but also use it effectively to beat on both of the two GOP front runners all the way to Tampa and beyond.  Pit them against each other by pointing this out and then let themselves be seen by all trying to talk their way out of reality.

  •  so (0+ / 0-)

    he voted in the democratic race to purposefully skew the opposing side results.

    so... he is a cheater. This is supposed to make him more presidential like?

    The threat to our way of life comes from corporations, and the solution is to shrink corporations while freeing government from corporate control.

    by gbaked on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:26:13 AM PST

  •  Does Romney get to vote in elections (0+ / 0-)

    in the Cayman Islands?

    "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have too much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little… I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clothed, ill-nourished." -Franklin Roosevelt

    by shoeless on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:27:38 AM PST

  •  R Newts abilities 2 switch his moments of "BELIEF" (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    ...a key to escaping from the domination of Religious Belief?

    From what I have read he seems to believe in one thing one time & then 2 believe something else about the same
    thingy at another time.

    I wonder, what is his method
      to his seeming ability to so easily switch his beliefs?

    If we knew his secrete it might just
    make it possible to deal with a hard core religionist's Fundamentalist Beliefs in a semblance of a rational manor.

  •  It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is (3+ / 0-)
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    All of Romney's answers are narrowly factually correct.

    None of them actually explains his behavior.

    He missed a calling in the law!

    Tunis...Cairo...Tripoli...Wall Street

    by GreenSooner on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:29:16 AM PST

  •  If I had of taken a shot every time Romney lied.. (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    last night I would have passed out halfway through the debate.  My goodness.  He can get away with that against Newt, but come the General he's going to be in some real trouble.  

  •  Two things at play here (3+ / 0-)
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    (1) Romney was at the time looking for a Democratic ally. Paul Tsongas was the most popular Democrat in Massachusetts at the time, far more than Ted Kennedy or John Kerry. Tsongas was also a fiscal moderate.

    (2) Romney would later run for Senate against Ted Kennedy in 1994, and lose rather badly. I don't see any evidence that Romney got any support from Tsongas as Tsongas attended rallies for Kennedy in Sept 1994 so his gambit apparently failed.

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:36:22 AM PST

  •  The R's only seem to have lopped eared yahoos. n/t (0+ / 0-)

    Just as prostitution is the world's oldest profession, religion is the world's oldest scam.

    by Agent420 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:39:05 AM PST

  •  Mitt Believes He Is Successful... Not Much Else (3+ / 0-)
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    lgmcp, sidnora, Hirodog

    Mitt: Born rounding third, headed for home, and thinks he's hit a home-run.
    Truly the product of an opportunity society:

    Romney was born on March 12, 1947 in Detroit, Michigan. He was the youngest child of George W. Romney, who by 1948 had become an automobile executive. [George Romney] had been born in a Mormon colony in Chihuahua, Mexico, to American parents (oops, there goes "my dad was an immigrant" argument; after all, immigrants cannot run for POTUS, which George did in 1968).

    Romney was named after hotel magnate J. Willard Marriott, his father's best friend, and his father's cousin Milton "Mitt" Romney, 1925–1929 quarterback for the Chicago Bears. When he was five, the family moved from Detroit to the affluent suburb of Bloomfield Hills. His father became CEO of American Motors and turned the company around from the brink of bankruptcy; by the time he was twelve, his father had become a nationally known figure in print and on television.

    I guess some people are just born with longer bootstraps than others...

    I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Republican Party.

    by OnlyWords on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:43:26 AM PST

  •  Romney attacks Ted Kennedy on his blind trust (4+ / 0-)
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    SanJoseLady, Otis29, IM, pamelabrown

    "The blind trust is an age-old ruse. You give a blind trust rules. You can say to a blind trust, don't invest in properties which would be in conflict of interest or where the seller might think they're going to get an advantage from me."

    -- Mitt Romney, in a 1994 debate with Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA).

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:46:39 AM PST

  •  get a grip, wipe away the slobber. romney punked (0+ / 0-)

    the democratic primary, just as I plan on punking the republican primary this year, voting for the craziest MFer on the ticket by the time they get to my state.

    To suggest that this is some big issue of credibility is absurd, and undermines the credibility of progressives.  Makes it all some spitting contest worthy of charlatans like breitbart and hannity et al ad infinitum.

    Romney punked the democratic primary, and wasn't particularly proud of it (it was a different, less shameless world way back then).  BFD.

    "the best revenge is not to be like them" Marcus Aurelius

    by lopaloo on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:47:46 AM PST

  •  if it's true (0+ / 0-)

    If Mitt was honest in saying that "any chance I got to vote against Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy, I took," then he is irresponsible and lacks the sound judgment demanded of a leader.  

    A responsible citizen who is also a rational thinker votes for the candidate who voices the best ideas.  

    And a person of presidential caliber honors the American system of fairness.  If enough others share his values, those values will prevail.  He does not attempt to sabotage the other party's candidates and their messages.  Again, elections should be ideas, not individuals.  

    In short, Mitt lacks the maturity required of an effective leader.  He is not convinced of the worth of his own convictions, if any, and he doesn't care about the mechanics of "democracy."  He is interested only in protecting his own ill-gotten gains from the tax collectors, and he feels entitled to make that call because he is rich and can purchase what he wants.  

    He is goofy and greedy and willing to do wrong when it helps him get his way.  

  •  He doesn't even think the lying is a bad thing (0+ / 0-)

    "Just playing the game, man". He's like a contestant on Survivor.

  •  It's funny how in Wingerverse (0+ / 0-)

    a vote for Tsongas needs to be explained.  He was probably the only real progressive in the race in 92 (before he had to drop out due to cancer).

    In the sea, Biscayne, there prinks
    The young emerald evening star,
    Good light for drunkards, poets, widows,
    And ladies soon to be married.

    by looty on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:55:27 AM PST

  •  Obama knock out punch (1+ / 0-)
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    Governor I don't get you. I copied your health Plan. Now you say it's unconstitutional because it is at federal level even though you said the nation should copy it.
    How can something be constitutional at state level and be unconstitutional at federal?. If it is unconstitutional, it is unconstitutional. Period.
    -Honestly Mitt, I don't think even think your repulican friends and voters know where you stand on anything...because there is nothing on which you don't have multiple stances...there is nothing to which you you haven't answered - all of the above..
    -Infact I'd say this to republicans...I'm actually a saver bet for you...because you know where I stand.
     

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

    by tuma on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 08:55:36 AM PST

  •  Instead of watching the (1+ / 0-)
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    eleventeenth debate, I saw this astonishing performance last night.

    As noted, Romney could learn from it. As a liar, he's a dilettante by comparison. I was reminded more of Gingrich.

    "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

    by sidnora on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 09:03:35 AM PST

  •  This is NOT one of Romney's Lies... (3+ / 0-)
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    Romney is guilty of countless lies, opportunistic flip-flops, and clueless gaffes.  However, we're frankly torturing common-sense and reality to claim his statements about voting in the 1992 Massachusetts Democratic Primary are among them. 1) Yes there was technically a GOP primary, but the sole GOP Presidential candidate was then-incumbent President George H. Bush.  The only chance to exercise meaningful choice was in the Democratic primary, and this is clearly what Romney meant to express by saying there wasn't a GOP Primary.  His misstatement counts as a gaffe rather than a true lie. 2) It's not at all contradictory to have dual motivations for voting for Tsongas: a) against Clinton for what he stands for; b) for Tsongas as the weaker general election candidate than Clinton.

    Romney's 2012 campaign is such a rich source of vastly more substantive, bona fide lies and obvious weasel-ly opportunistic flip-flops that we undermine rather than reinforce their power by dissipating our focus on such weak, unsound stuff as this.  It makes us sound as if we need to stretch really far to make him look bad, whereas there's tons of stuff that we should instead focus on which are toxically deadly to Romney.

    •  well said; sad to see my progressive friends (1+ / 0-)
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      get so hot and bothered by something so petty, distracting and, frankly, defensible on romney's part.    

      "the best revenge is not to be like them" Marcus Aurelius

      by lopaloo on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 09:27:52 AM PST

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    •  This "lie" or whatever you want to call it (0+ / 0-)

      will hurt Romney much more in the GOP primary than in the general.  

      In the sea, Biscayne, there prinks
      The young emerald evening star,
      Good light for drunkards, poets, widows,
      And ladies soon to be married.

      by looty on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 09:52:35 AM PST

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    •  Bush I was NOT the only Republican candidate (0+ / 0-)

      that year, 1992.  Before the Massachusetts primary, Buchanan had just come close to beating Bush in New Hampshire.

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 11:55:53 AM PST

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  •  Mitt continues to romney (0+ / 0-)

    It's become an addiction, a drug. A rich Republican Mormon's idea of living dangerously. H-E-double hockey sticks, who can remember 1992? Guy can't even remember where all his money is today!

    All that baining over the years is hard on the memory.

    Democrats are not always right, but Republicans are insane.

    by BobBlueMass on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 09:24:14 AM PST

  •  well thanks for the admission (0+ / 0-)

    "When there was no real contest in the Republican primary, I’d vote in the Democrat primary, vote for the person who I thought would be the weakest opponent for the Republican."

    Um, I thought that was illegal. Voter fraud type thing isn't it?

    -6.88 -6.36 I'm still looking for a good signature line.

    by andthensome on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 09:44:46 AM PST

    •  Nothing illegal about it (0+ / 0-)

      So long as you are in a state with an open primary.

      There is no law governing the reasons why you vote one way or another.  Nor should there be.

      In the sea, Biscayne, there prinks
      The young emerald evening star,
      Good light for drunkards, poets, widows,
      And ladies soon to be married.

      by looty on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 09:53:29 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  while you're legislating who to vote for... (0+ / 0-)

      Will it be voter fraud when I vote for donald duck in the 2012 general?  Might be daffy, I'm not yet certain.

      Surely won't be Obama or whichever selfish hustler runs against him.

      "the best revenge is not to be like them" Marcus Aurelius

      by lopaloo on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 11:02:31 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  He can't keep his Mitt straight. (0+ / 0-)
  •  Favorite son Tsongas was overwhelmingly favored (0+ / 0-)

    to win the 1992 Massachusetts primary.  Look at this Harvard Crimson article from right before the primary: Little Suspense, High Stakes in Massachusetts Primary: Bay State Is Third Largest Super Tuesday Prize But Native Son Tsongas Is Clear Favorite; Clinton May Surprise Pundits.

    And, while Bush père was also overwhelmingly favored to win the Republican primary, he had recently come close to losing the New Hampshire primary to Pat Buchanan.

    So why did Romney think it was more important to vote for Tsongas than for Bush?

    The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

    by lysias on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 11:54:24 AM PST

  •  Work the base into a frenzy... (0+ / 0-)

    Bill Clinton....

    Ted Kennedy....

    Obamacare....

    2nd Amendment remedies....

    And the sheeple will follow.

    TEABAGGER=Totally Enraged About Blacks And Gays Getting Equal Rights.

    by wesinCA on Fri Jan 27, 2012 at 02:27:33 PM PST

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