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I consider myself very lucky in many ways but not least is that I love where I live: the house, the land, the state. Its beautiful and I take a big interest.
My girlfriend---now mrs exlrrp---and sold our properties and moved up to Oregon in Mar 2005. We could not have timed this better historically because that turned out to be real close to the peak of the bubble (mixed metaphors?) and not long after that home prices started to take a downward turn.
I ve always considered myself lucky to have this place, mrs e found it on the internet. I was charging up here every other week from the SF East Bay to check places out. I went to 10, then she came up and confirmed, then  we bought. It ours, we own it. Of course its lost about maybe 20% of its value since then but that doesn't make any difference because we're not selling. Theyre going to carry me out of here feet first so it doesn't mattter what its worth
its a big old rambling place that I started fixing the day after I got here. ive done a lot to iit by now and you can see a lot of it in the archives of the Saturday Morning Home Repair Blog.We have 10 acres, 2 ponds, a barn and a large kennel that hippies used to live in but now its a kennel.
Our land is situated inside what could be called a huge private tree farm. There's a bout 60 square miles of it in a big rough triangle, maybe 8 or 9 miles per side. We llive inside this but not WAY inside this. I have made it a point to get to know the timber company that runs this---they fix the roads, etc. I know them pretty good and have the #2 key to the gates. Its vehicle gated but anyone can just walk in and there's a lot of hunting in here come season. There's gravel roads through this and they open them during hunting season
I walk a 3.5 mile loop through this forest at least 3 times a week, more if I can. There's different lengths of loop: the halfloop, the Megaloop, the loopdeloop.
Tbought I'd take you on a little stroll here on The Full Loop

Ok so we're walking out my gate and down my driveway. This first one is looking back at the house along the driveway. You can see the little square of roof in the center
At this point we're close to a half mile away from the house.  The driveway winds around---A reckless person who has to proves something can get up to 50mph in this stretch. Just saying. How many can do that in your driveway?

Ok, here we are at the halfway point of the driveway, about half a mile from the house. To the left here is whats called the Strawberry Gate. I don't know why its called that but everybody calls it that so I do too. Maybe because parts of it are red. I have the key to this gate and can drive in but rarely do. I usually walk or every now and then ride the ATV or me and mrs e ride horses.
To the right is my house, behind me is another half miles of driveway to the main road.
Time to introduce my friend and walking companion, Grip. He's an australian cattle dog. Don't ask me why that brand, mrs e made me take him. Anyway this is the smartest dog I ever had---well trained, friendly, an excellent watch dog. If he barks, there's something to bark at!
He always goes with me and loves it. There's ponds along the way and he has to jump into every one of them, even tho there be ice on the surface.
The trees here look about 15 years old. There's a great variety of ages in the forests we'll be passing through.


this next is looking down over my town, Brownsville. From here its about a 2 mile walk to the center of town, through an old pioneer cemetery. Its about 6 miles driving by road. There's many view spots like this on the walk, the clearcuts give a great view. Don't worry, they grow it all back
Youre looking southwest into the WIllamette Valley way out is Harrisburg. Behind the hills to the midleft about 22 miles is Eugene.

Ok now we're back in the woods again. One of the interesting things walking through here is how the trees go from one age to the next. You may be walkng through a forest, then a clearcut, then maybe a replanted area, then a different age. One side of the road can be one age and the other side anopther age. Sorta makes the hills look like they have a bad haircut.At this point we're over a mile on our walk.

We're another half mile along now. I bring guns and shoot at this little quarry sometimes. It points away from town, the bullets go into the walls. I come up shooting about once a month. I like target shooting and am better than fair at it

Now we're lookiing back down over my land again. All the land youre looking at is part of the tree farm. Remember this view, we'll be looking at a view from acrosss the vallley in a while

Here's another view across the Willamette Valley, looking WNW toward Corvallis, about 30 miles away. You see the clear cut but its already been replanted. They have to by law replant within 2 years of a cut. Thats Mary's Peak rising on the left, Bond Butte is those 2 little hills closer in the middle. This is about the halfway point of a 3.5 mile walk

Every now and then a tree falls across the road. I could drive up and chop this into firewood but............. I'm too lazy. The timber company has a road crew that takes this.

Another view across the Valley of the Wammy at Corvallis. Sorry it was such a hazy day, on a clear day you can see Corvallis, 25 miles away. This walk is full of views like this. They cut this 4 years ago. Look how big the trees are already. They grow 18" a year.

All the land you see here is part of my "park." That what they call Cochran Creek Drainage

Ok, remember I said to remember that view? Here's one looking back the other way. The first view was taken up on the ridge, right side of the picture. you can see my house in the center right. We've made a big loop around the mountain. Look to the left of the house, between the house and the cut spot---there's a patch of trees, We'll be taking all those out this summer and a bunch more. This will provide for a killer view.
they cut this patch 2 years ago. Its already been replanted. These people take care of their land and trees really well.

Here's another view from close to the same place. Thats Crawfordsville about 8 miles out. If this was a clear day you'd be looking at 2 of the 3 Sisters off in the distance midpicture.

Ok, we're walking through woods again now. We're getting close to my property now, couple of hndred yards away.

here's our back gate. The building you see is our "guest house" the kennel nee hippie house. Mrs e picks up a little butter and aig money boarding dogs. She keeps em up here.

So we're almost home now. To the left is the Upper Pond, you can see the house through the trees on the right.

Thanks for taking our tour and remember our tour guides live on what you give them because we're too freaking cheap to pay them!!

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WOW exlrrp I wish I lived in a REALLY cool place like Oregon!!

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  •  8" of snow in Omaha yesterday. (12+ / 0-)

    At least when I measured it in my driveway.

    Do you think getting some lip service at the Super Bowl will help Labor and Occupy? Be ignored? Get hype backlash?

    "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

    by Stude Dude on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 03:42:19 AM PST

  •  good morning (10+ / 0-)

    I'm on the android in SC.
    Going to perry,ga

    Your post looks great exlrrp i'll get to it tonight on a desk top

    Waves good bye

  •  So how is Oregon different than Iowa? (13+ / 0-)

    'Cept for being more Northwesty?

    And being more mountainy?

    I suppose that most Coastal Sophisticates all know that Iowa is flat.... Except for the mountains!

    "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

    by Stude Dude on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 03:53:05 AM PST

  •  Good morning everyone! And what a... (9+ / 0-)

    good morning it is... after many reindeer games, 11-year-old classical singer Jackie Evancho's astounding performance of The Lord's Prayer at the NPB is here... hint: right-click to watch on YouTube, it's well worth it... enjoy...

    “For the first time in two decades, Osama bin Laden is not a threat to this country.” President Obama 1/24/12

    by BarackStarObama on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 03:53:44 AM PST

  •  Beautiful photo essay, exlrrp (10+ / 0-)

    Some years ago, I was lucky enough to house-sit for a good friend in his family's house north of Vancouver, WA. Took many photos --on a digital camera, new at the time--  on numerous walks with their two German Shepherds.

    They were renovating a cabin high up hilltop on three+ acres of land. Beautiful spot. The two dogs were friendly, but very quirky. One (Grimsby) was clearly the Alpha-male; the other (Gruff) was the sweetest dog I've ever met.

    He was happy to have me watch the place, but the running gag between us was that I should be paying him for the view! No money exchanged hands, of course.

    I miss that spot; your photos brought me back. Thank you!

    A happy Sunday to all of the MOTlie Crew. :-)

    "Space Available" is the largest retail chain in the nation.

    by Free Jazz at High Noon on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 03:54:40 AM PST

  •  Beautiful Pictures and I can see why (11+ / 0-)

    you love it so!  Unlike Oregon, in Nebraska, there are not many indigenous trees that grow wild, except for Red Cedars which are the bane of the tree world.  Western Nebraska is a sea of tall grasses with trees planted around home sites.  Eastern Nebraska is more conducive to growing trees, and there is one National Forest (albeit, all hand planted trees) in the state, but our vistas are horizon to horizon.  My husband, also a western Nebraska native, has from time to time been heard to mutter If they'd cut down the damn trees, a person could see something.

    Had a great blizzard yesterday with snow swirling and twirling all day, blowing and drifting...about 9" of the white stuff that came down in such a hurry that the tree limbs are sagging to the ground.  DISHTV was on and off all day, and we lost power a couple of times.  The noisiest thing in our quiet house is the ice maker who at least a couple of times every day, abruptly, without being asked, sends ice cubes cluttering to the floor.  Even he was mute, so I found myself going over to the electric pencil sharpener to sharpen a pencil to work a cross word puzzle...

    •  Hi JF (8+ / 0-)

      We could use a little more here we're still below the normal snowpack level.
      i thnk a a body needs trees to look at and mountains to look at them from. The other ABSOLUTE living requirement for me  is close to ocean beaches.
      Oregon has it all.

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 04:40:59 AM PST

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    •  "seeing the elephant" country, yes? (0+ / 0-)

      Easterners, back in the covered-wagon Western migration era, and before... sometimes got so spooked by the big flat empty from horizon to horizon, that't they'd give up, turn tail & run back to country with trees & hills like they were used to, eh?

      at least when I got "rock fever" in the year I spent at grad school in Hawaii, there was still "profile" on the islands! If I'd been someplace like Vanuatu or any of the other coral atolls that are now drowning, where it floods almost completely at "high tide", I think that'd be the equivalent of land-locked "elephant country"

      "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

      by chimene on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 04:33:16 PM PST

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  •  Very nostalgic diary, for me. (11+ / 0-)

    My Grandparents property was very similar, and located not so far from yours (the Cheshire area / Highway 36).

    They owned a lot of land. Like yours, their property was almost completely surrounded by tree farm / forest.

    Five of my Aunts and Uncles still live on land they inherited there (two died before their parents, my grandparents, did). From each of their houses--or at least the nearby yard--they can see across a small valley, so they can tell if everyone else is home.

    Obviously, this is a tight-knit clan. Everybody knows their neighbors like sisters and brothers--'cause they are!

    It matters not how small the beginning may seem to be: what is once well done is done forever. Henry David Thoreau, in Civil Disobedience

    by Had Enough Right Wing BS on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 04:13:32 AM PST

    •  I'm close to there (5+ / 0-)

      Cheshire is just a couple of miles from where I play golf a lot, down by Junction City.
      We ave a friend who lives there, as a matter of fact she gave us Grip and also named him (she's English)
      She lives right on Territorial Road, close to Cheshire Road (Hwy 36) Those are the only two streets in Cheshire so its close to where your folks live.
      Great FArm country,  no doubt.

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 04:45:11 AM PST

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      •  Yep, if you were that close when my grandparents (4+ / 0-)
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        were alive and knew them they would have wondered if you were mad if you didn't stop by.

        Over the years they had several houses on various parts of their property--none more than five miles or so from the highway. The turnoff to the road leading to their driveway was where (long ago) the Burp Holler tavern once stood.

        Seeing Junction City written in this context reminded me of when I realized that if they were going there they would say they were "Going to the city." If they said they were going to town, well that meant Eugene.

        Most of us can "go for a hike" or walk some particular path with a pretty much predetermined start and end point. I envy you being able to roam. I remember finding creeks and wondering where they went, following them to ponds only a couple of miles away--but places I hadn't previously known even existed. It's so easy for us to fall into patterns; even when I think I'm "exploring" now I'm not often far from the beaten path.

        Decades ago, I thought traveling further and seeing some of the amazing sights around the world might be something I would do "someday." I never got around to doing that, but now I wonder if I would have seen anything more wonderful than the stuff I saw as a young guy just gallivanting around following a meandering creek or some other whim.

        It's gotten too easy for me to do and undo. Nothing matches the contentment of just being.  I remember being aware on a different level to the life all around me, yet simultaneously lost within myself. Maybe that sounds like I'm trying to be poetic, but that's the place your diary has me rambling in.

        Your diary sparked so many memories! Thanks. It's like hearing your favorite album from thirty years ago and realizing that you still love every song on it.

        It matters not how small the beginning may seem to be: what is once well done is done forever. Henry David Thoreau, in Civil Disobedience

        by Had Enough Right Wing BS on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 05:54:12 AM PST

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      •  huh? Cheshire is on the west side of the valley, (0+ / 0-)

        Brownsville is on the east side! you're confusing me here...

        "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

        by chimene on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 04:34:21 PM PST

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  •  Beautiful diary! (9+ / 0-)

    I loved taking a walk with you this morning!  Thank you for this wonderfully narrated tour of your corner of paradise!

    Good Morning, exlrrp!  I hope you and everyone else here has a wonderful day.

    "Corporations have no consciences, no beliefs, no feelings, no thoughts, no desires. Corporations help facilitate and structure the activities of human beings, to be sure, and their ‘personhood’ often serves as a useful legal fiction.”-Justice Stevens

    by gulfgal98 on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 04:13:40 AM PST

  •  Good Morning, exlrrp & Kogs (9+ / 0-)

    What a great photo diary!  What excellent views you have.  I'm sure they provide many different looks too, not just the seasonal look either.  Mrs e did good finding that place for you two.  

    Love your hiking buddy, Grip.  He's a handsome guy.  Is it that breed that is so smart, or just Grip in particular?

    Thank you for taking us along on the hike today.  I know I'm not the only one wishing it could be in real life.  I'd love to tramp through those beautiful acres.

    Thanks too for filling in for me this morning.  

    Have a great day everybuddy ;~D

    As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. John F. Kennedy

    by JaxDem on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 04:15:58 AM PST

    •  Hi JD! (6+ / 0-)

      i think the breed is smart but this is the first and only one Ive had so I don't know if its the breed.

      we work on training as we go along: He comes, sits, goes behind, down,up, down, stay. I can walk off for 20 minutes and come back and he's still there. I tell  him GO lie down! and he does. I can do this with verbal or hand signals or whistling.  Mrs e, a dog trainer, doesn't do this well with her dogs (3 pitbulls)
      if any of my Motley friends are ever out this way be sure and give me a shout!  Plenty of guest rooms and a hot tub. Plenty of stuff to do.

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 04:52:26 AM PST

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  •  Good Morning, exlrrp and all! (8+ / 0-)

    You have done what we are seriously considering... both a place in the country and Oregon. Your pictures are helping to convince me that it would be a good decision.

    •  AJ its really great for people on pensions (6+ / 0-)

      No sales tax for one thing.Gasoline prices lower than our neighbors (Don't know how that works but its true) LAnd is REAL inexpensive compared to CA or even WA. Property taxes are low. You can get a fairly decent house for $100K. But the real treasures Start around $200K which is Bupkes in CA.
      $200K gets you acreage, a large house, outside of a fairly large town. More than that really gets SOMETHING!
      You can live in large City like Portland but Oregon is mostly a state of small towns.
      From what I know about you try Corvallis or Eugene---college towns with a lot of cultural things, close to the mountains but only an hour from the beaches

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 05:12:30 AM PST

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      •  We have friends in Eugene that love it (4+ / 0-)
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        with more conservative relatives across the freeway in Springfield.

        Haven't looked into Corvallis but will consider it. We will need a town big enough to get a job. We both know military retirement isn't enough by itself ;)

        •  Jobs for educated people easier to get (0+ / 0-)

          Don't know what your specialty is but labor: skilled and unskilled still having a hard time because of things like the wiping out of the RV industry which took 10000 jobs out. The lumber industry is still slow.
          Whiter collar people have an easier time. There's quite a few colleges close to these places: Western Oregon, Willamette, OSU, OU, Reed, more private ones. Lots of community colleges.
          HP still has a much diminshed presence in Corvallis.
          You can work in the city, even Portland, and still  a short commute to the country.
          Eugene has approx 140K, Salem the same. Corvallis about 60K, Albany 50K.  Eugene is only 90 miles from POrtland, the other three are more in the middle, so you can work in anyplace and commute to another and its an easy commute. I believe Oregon has the best roads of any state Ive been in and theyre still not crowded.
          Hopefully things will be better by the time youre ready for it. Things seem to be brightening up.

          Happy just to be alive

          by exlrrp on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 02:02:23 PM PST

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  •  OT Clicking on Back? (5+ / 0-)

    I mentioned recently that when I click Back on DKos, nothing happened.  When I right clicked on Back, the message was Share This.  eeff, I think, had the same problem, which has gone away, at least for me.

    Some one though said s/he rarely uses Back.  I am curious how one gets Back w/o using Back?

    •  Mornin', JF (5+ / 0-)

      that was me.  I never use the back button.  I either click the "Daily Kos" orange letters at the upper left which takes me to the front page, or I click on my stream or my comments and go where I need to from there.  

      I find that any one of those actions also refreshes the page.

      I saw NE had quite the snowfall yesterday.  Hope you stay warm and toasty and be safe out there when you have to travel it in.

      Have a great day.

      As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. John F. Kennedy

      by JaxDem on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 05:02:45 AM PST

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      •  Morning JaxDem - I thought it was you (6+ / 0-)

        who didn't use Back.  Does that work on other sites too?  I don't think I've ever clicked on Stream...  

        Beautiful storm yesterday!  We have huge drifts hanging off our overhangs, and our daughter who lives across the ravine from us had about ten inches of show on their deck.  Meanwhile, in town, I checked with the other two children and they have hardly noticed it snowed.  Unwittingly, we built our house in perfect alignment with storms raging out of the North east.  The snow slams into our front door, and packs the sliding glass door off our dining room with drifts up to 6'.  Summer thunder storms sends Fred chasing patio furniture all over back 60.  People in the midwest and plains states get all agog at the prospect of a storm.  This storm has been the top topic of conversation for days now, and we will all regale others with snow amounts, wind gusts, last us all winter.  

    •  yes (5+ / 0-)

      It's working again!!!


    •  I noticed the same thing, JF (2+ / 0-)
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      I thought it was just me.  

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 05:46:10 AM PST

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  •  Just remember (6+ / 0-)
    "We want you to visit our State of Excitement often. Come again and again. But for heaven's sake, don't move here to live. Or if you do have to move in to live, don't tell any of your neighbors where you are going."

    Tom McCall
    Oregon Governor
    1967 to 1975

    Also too

    "White-collar conservatives flashing down the street. Pointing their plastic finger at me."

    by BOHICA on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 04:48:30 AM PST

  •  Rindy Ross and Quarterflash - an Oregon band (6+ / 0-)

    Most of the members came from Seafood Mama in the early 80's. Used to see big hair Rindy shopping at the Galleria in downtown Portland all the time.

    “Are you calling the Koch brothers during the recess?” - Henry Waxman

    by thenekkidtruth on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 05:12:48 AM PST

  •  I guess I don't have to tell you I wish I lived (6+ / 0-)

    where you do.

    Sure would be nice to be able to go for a walk and not see houses or roads close by. Nice quarry too. We have to drive an hour and a half to get somewhere safe.

    The trees look good for a tree farm, must be different species or something, doesn't look mono culture.

    I know what time it is here, and I know what time it must be where you are. I guess you must have coffee.

    Foot and a half over the past couple days, ground thawed melting fast.

    "Slip now and you'll fall the rest of your life" Derek Hersey 1957-1993

    by ban nock on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 05:20:41 AM PST

    •  18" a year -- that's thanks to Rex Clemens, an old (0+ / 0-)

      logger who lived west of Corvallis. He threw money at the Forestry School at Oregon State, for them to develop faster-growing replacement trees. So you didn't have to wait so long to clear-cut again, 8-(

      He also set up a scholarship program for local kids (my "home-town", Philomath) that eventually got so swamped by folks moving to Philthy-mouth so their kids could get the scholarships, that a couple of years ago the family members currently running the program put a bunch of limitations on, including "2d generation residents of [the 4 towns that feed the HS]"! Also a buncha' crapola about no more OSU, only a selected list of conservative private schools! too bad. Apparently they have a process for exceptions for medical & veterinary school... that's something, anyway.

      "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

      by chimene on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 05:39:57 PM PST

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  •  Turns out w the new job I'll be heading to your (5+ / 0-)

    neck of the woods a lot.  Thanks for giving me something to look forward to!

    My search for a charity to help out in the suburbs of Cleveland is ongoing.  I've been helping gardens and other charities out here for so many years that it'd feel weird to come home from work and not think about what volunteer stuff I have to get done.  Cleveland actually has a pretty awesome park system (the Metroparks), and there's a "friends of" organization that seems to just do lobbying education, so I'll probably try to learn more about them.  

  •  Ruh-Roh. My Slow-Roast 12 Hour Turkey's Built-In (5+ / 0-)

    breast thermometer was popped when I got up after 8 hours at 250° oven temp, verified by oven thermometer adjacent to the bird. I inserted the in-oven digital probe deep into the breast meat and flipped it upside down for the 3 hour stretch before lunch with Assisted Living Mom. It's been half an hour and the deep probe is reading done at 166°.

    The recipe site I got this from had evenly divided comments. Half said juiciest best bird evuhrrr and the other half said it was done hours early and nothing but leather when we ate.

    I'd done 250° oven slow roast duck and chicken within the month. Both were 4 pounders and took 5 hours so based on those successes (awesome) this 10 pound turkey calculated to be the same as the website recipe.

    Probably in half an hour after the bottom side has had time to cook some I'll just cut the oven to 170° and let it hold the 2 hours before I retrieve Mom. If it's a bust I'll drive her through the parks eating cheeseburgers.

    Dang the house smells glorious either way! I'd love to have pounds of turkey leftover for the Big Game tonight.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 05:40:28 AM PST

  •  Oregon is great! (1+ / 0-)
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    Tennessee is probably a close second when you get to the Smokies, but then you have to put up with the indigenous species around here, Rectus Conservatus.

  •  About the poll... (3+ / 0-)

    You need to add a choice for:

    "I'm one of the luckiest people on the planet because I already live in Oregon!"

    Greetings from the southern tippy-top end of the Willamette Valley.  The Coast Fork of the Willamette flows less than 1/4 of a mile from my home.

    Those of us who live here in western OR. are justifiably snobby about the beauty of our surroundings.  If you haven't yet, though, please take a trip to eastern OR and spend some time there too.  It's a different kind of grandeur, but I promise, as you stand on top of Steens mountain and look out over the Alvord dessert your jaw will drop.  

    We are incredibly, unbelievably lucky to live in a state where you can get in a car and be lost in so many different kinds of natural beauty, all within a short drive of a few hours or less.  Ocean beaches, Cascade waterfalls, coastal rainforest, mountain snowbanks and glaciers, high deserts, canyons and rocks, lava flows and inland desert lakes...

    We are lucky.  

    p.s. Chanterelles are easy to identify and find and very few others look like them (none poisonous.)  You won't find them on your property, though.  They like really old, established stands of trees.  It takes some time to develop the symbiotic relationship between fungus and conifer (Douglas fir) tree roots.  Most "managed" forests don't give their stands enough time between harvests.  

    Almost everyone feels safe picking chanterelles, though.  It's a fun excuse for an autumn walk in the old forest after the first good rain.  We pick bags and bags of them every year and the in-laws either dry them or saute them in butter and freeze them for later.  

    I am freaked out, frankly, by people who go and pick all sorts of mushrooms from the forest, because many of them do look like some poisonous types.  The "death cap" are the ones you are discussing and yep, every year it seems like someone dies after mistaking it for an edible look-alike.  Just a small amount will cause complete liver failure.  Not worth risking it, in my book!

    Chanterelles are not easily confused with a poisonous look-alike, though.  If you ever eat them in a restaurant or buy them in a store, they absolutely were picked in a forest near you by someone who's probably a lot less careful than you would be!  

    Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. MLK Jr.

    by koosah on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 07:59:04 AM PST

    •  Did you hear about those people in Gold Beach? (0+ / 0-)

      Those mushroom hunters---a couple and their teenage son. They had gone out hunting for mushrooms but got lost. This was up the Rogue but only "several" miles from Gold Beach
      They got lost and then proceeded to hunker down under a tree for 6 days.
      There's certain indications here, Watson.
      Why would someone who lived in the area get lost when they were only "several" miles from town?
      Why would they hunker down under a tree for 6 days all the while hearing helicopters looking for them.

      "They sought some shelter in a hollowed-out tree and basically they stayed in the same place. But it was heavy vegetation where they were."

      When I was in the boy scouts, they always told us to find a stream and move down it, sooner or later you'll come to some populated area. Thats what I would do and that sure would have worked here.
      6 days in a 4 square mile area that people were looking in.
      I personally think that perhaps they imbibed too much in a certain kind of mushroom that, oh, say, may have hampered their movements somewhat and made it easy to stay lost. If you kept eating these untill they were gone, for survival perhaps, that may be the answer to why it took them so many days to get out of an area you think they'd know real well.
      Looking at the picture makes one sorta think that, if one is the type to go on first impressions. Glad they got out all right.
      That would be another Typical Oregon Story.

      See where the same guy found the Kims? Please folks, if you're lost in the woods in Oregon, better make some substantial efforts to get found or we may miss you ot get there too late.

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 01:46:05 PM PST

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      •  Yeah...they're not from around here. (0+ / 0-)

        They made a lot of mistakes:

        The forests of southern OR (especially the coastal areas) can be quite dense.  Most people who go mushrooming recreationally only go maybe 50-100 yards off road (if that far!  I've never needed to go so far into the trees that the road wasn't still visible to someone in the party).  If you can't find anything closer to the road, then you shouldn't be looking there.    

        They should have gone with someone familiar with the area and more experienced.

        They probably weren't (ahem) "enjoying" the type of mushrooms that alter your brain functioning, unless they picked them on the way there (they grow in a different habitat--not dense forest.)  That's not to say they weren't in an "altered" state from something.  That was my first thought, too.

        I thought "hunkering under a tree" was a weird thing to do, too.  I get needing to have shelter at night, but during the day get out and make yerself seen!  

        Given that they were so unfamiliar with the area and the terrrain, it was probably best for them to just stick tight in one spot.  They don't sound like they are the type who could find their way out of a paper bag with a map and a flashlight, do they?   If they had gone looking for a stream, they might have just gotten more lost.

        Take away lesson:  always tell someone where you're going and if possible bring someone who knows the area.  Sheesh.

        Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. MLK Jr.

        by koosah on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 02:53:55 PM PST

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        •  whistle on a lanyard around your neck! (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:

          you can blow a whistle a lot longer than you can yell, and it'll probably carry farther too, even in confusing canyons. should be one for everyone in the family, in the car emergency kit.

          also, the Gold Beach folks had LEFT THEIR JACKETS AT THE CAR!?!?! they are SO freaking lucky!

          so many people these days spend so little time outdoors, it's a true wonder that more folks don't kill themselves on this kind of expedition.

          "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

          by chimene on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 05:59:49 PM PST

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          •  I didn't know they'd left their jackets. (0+ / 0-)

            Holy cow.  They really sound like Darwin award winners (or at least runners-up.)  

            The single most important thing anyone needs to bring with them into the forest is respect for it.  It's not called "wilderness" because it's easy to find a 7-11.  Again, the southern coastal forest is particularly wild and uninhabited.  

            These guys were indeed very, very lucky.  

            Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. MLK Jr.

            by koosah on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 08:07:47 PM PST

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  •  Final Little Known Facts And SpeculationFor Sunday (0+ / 0-)

    Portland Oregon's name was decided on a coin toss.
    The other alternative was Boston.

    Th reason Oregon doesn't have an exclamation point on its license plate is we're not so showoffy

    thank you all for partcipating in my diary, I'm off to watch the SB
    Prediction: NE by at least 7

    Happy just to be alive

    by exlrrp on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 02:37:25 PM PST

    •  have fun. we're having a QUIET day, as our (0+ / 0-)

      satellite box is in the middle of hard-drive-death.  

      we're still managing to catch the irreducible minimum on the DVR and shovel them over to the separate hard-drive, but it's getting worse. thank goodness tonight's Downton will be on again 2-3 more times during the week. new box is SUPPOSED to get here Monday.

      "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

      by chimene on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 06:03:33 PM PST

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  •  Mary's Peak, pic 8 & 10 -- trivia (0+ / 0-)

    yes, that's also Marys Peak in picture 10, the highest point, in the middle of the horizon mountains.

    Mary's Peak is the highest point in the Coast Range, and has very interesting open meadows at its top. Natural meadows that may contain vestiges of numerous very old botanical arrays, because of the elevation.  The local Kalapuya Indians had a story about a great flood and people, and animals, running and climbing the hills to escape the waters... possibly of the Missoula Floods(!)

    I can't find any hard documentation of that but did find two different popular versions.

    "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

    by chimene on Sun Feb 05, 2012 at 08:54:13 PM PST

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