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In addition to finding that Susan G. Komen for the Cure's decision to defund Planned Parenthood's cancer screening programs damaged Komen's brand and alienated its supporters, our new Daily Kos-Public Policy Polling survey released today found a rather interesting tidbit:
Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Planned Parenthood’s breast cancer screening services (among conservatives only):

Favorable........................................................ 25%
Unfavorable .................................................... 51%
Not sure ......................................................... 25%

Isn't that something? For a group of people who claim to support "life"—not to mention their insistence that they really want to help women when it comes to making the right decisions about their health care—it's pretty striking that they'd rather see women die of cancer than get medical care at Planned Parenthood. Guess the sanctity of their political opposition to women's health care trumps the "sanctity of life."

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Originally posted to Daily Kos on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:30 AM PST.

Also republished by Permanent Glory.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Only zygotes and fetuses are ... (17+ / 0-)

    deserving of their "love", apparently, when it comes to the poor.

    Once you're born, you might as well be the morning trash.

  •  In a most literal sense of the words conservatives (13+ / 0-)

    are hateful people.

    "Repeatedly he [Voltaire] dwelt on the folly and credulousness of the masses and the selfishness and unscrupulousness of the ruling few." 'nuff said.

    by caseynm on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:36:15 AM PST

    •  they'd have an unfavorable opinion of (3+ / 0-)

      ice cold, freshly squeezed lemonade on a hot summer day if their oracles on right wing radio told them to it was a "libral drink."

      It's a pretty frightening phenomena.

      "By your late thirties the ground has begun to grow hard. It grows harder and harder until the day that it admits you.” Thomas McGuane, Nobody's Angel

      by Keith930 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:01:01 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  How much do you have to hate Planned (18+ / 0-)

    Parenthood in order to oppose cancer screenings?  That's the real question.  Or is it relective of their general hatred of women?

    As to the Komen concern about "pass through" mammographies, it doesn't make economic sense for PP to have mammography at their facilities.  If you have radiology, you must not only have the expensive machine, film development equipment, and a technician, but you must also have a radiologist.  Way too big an expense for about a dozen exams per day.

    It's more cost effective for them to refer those tests to facilities that book many, many exams to amortize their equipement and pay the salaries of the techs and radiologist.

    There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

    by Puddytat on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:36:18 AM PST

  •  They're only echoing... (10+ / 0-)

    what hate radio and faux news tells them.

  •  In their brains, (14+ / 0-)

    'breast cancer screening services' is a euphemism for abortion, just like, for a normal person, 'powdering one's nose' actually means something else.

    Dogs are people, but corporations aren't.

    by Greasy Grant on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:37:26 AM PST

  •  What !!!!???? (5+ / 0-)
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    Puddytat, NonnyO, TerryDarc, shoeless, rabel

    Holy Smokes !!!!

    Who in their right mind would be against breast cancer screening?  I mean, this isn't even "religious" or "conservative".....this is just...well, for lack of a better word..."smart".

    Oh...Okay...I get it.

    - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

    by r2did2 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:37:59 AM PST

    •  And that's precisely the point (4+ / 0-)

      These people are not in their right mind. They are sick in their hearts and heads in their hatred for women and really anyone who will not subjugate themselves to their authoritarian will. They don't care if a woman lives or dies. They just care that she accept their domination, or else their whole demented worldview makes no sense. This is about cognitive dissonance and a culture of oppression which they are desperate to maintain no matter the costs.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:57:41 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  That's not what it says (0+ / 0-)

      It says they are opposed to screening done by Planned Parenthood

      from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

      by Catte Nappe on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:11:36 AM PST

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  •  Planned Parenthood exists (11+ / 0-)

    therefore it goes against the will of their deity as only He decides  who should be a parent.  Plus, they truly believe that PP is an abortion mill and spends every penny to murder innocent babies to the exclusion of everything else.

    /snark

    I support the troops! I want them to return home in something besides caskets and body bags. (-6.5,-4.1)

    by minidriver on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:38:09 AM PST

    •  well, fundies aren't exactly big supporters (10+ / 0-)

      of contraception either.  Except for themselves and only spoken of in "quiet rooms".

      A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

      by dougymi on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:44:56 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  True enough (2+ / 0-)
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        shoeless, dougymi

        In my younger years I lived in the South.  My wife and I attended a Baptist church with some friends on some of our Sundays and about half of every sermon was about the evils of "drink" (as they called it).

        Then, on Monday, the state-supported liquor store parking lot was full of what looked to be mostly the same cars we saw in the church parking lot the day before.

        We figured that a lot of folks in our town had the same kind of cars there or something....  :-)

        - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

        by r2did2 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:56:53 AM PST

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        •  My mother is aghast that her small town is wet (2+ / 0-)
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          The town lays across the county line, and the southern county has gone wet. So now they're building a liquor store on the south side of town.

          Mind you, my mother is not upset that the small town is being exposed to the evils of alcohol.

          She's upset that some of her social circle might actually see her at the store. So much more convenient to drive 30 miles to the city and buy your booze in relative anonymity.

          This is my life. All the pain, all the joy it brings. All through the years, the blood, sweat, and tears, my hopes and my fears -- all that has led me to now. This is my life, and I wouldn't change a thing.

          by harrije on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:18:26 AM PST

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          •  She might see Jimmy Swaggart with the prostitute (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            r2did2

            at the motel while she is in that town 30 miles away as well.  Hypocrisy is an awe inspiring thing, isn't it?

            And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

            by MrJersey on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:31:16 AM PST

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        •  ha... funny you should say that (0+ / 0-)

          The county in N. Michigan I was born in was dry for the longest time due to the evils of alcohol preached in just about every Christian Reformed church.  Just one town in the southwestern corner of it could sell liquor by the bottle (there were a few bars, mostly for the "tourists and deer hunters" (ha!)).  That town and its 3 liquor stores were packed most of the time. Even on Sunday afternoons!   Good business strategy...

          A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

          by dougymi on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 12:17:49 PM PST

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  •  You have to wonder at the vileness of people (11+ / 0-)

    like this.  But they hate women, so it's understandable.

    A lot of people hate women--look at the guy in Utah who murdered his wife, then yesterday blew up the house and himself and the two children.  Guess he couldn't stand the idea of anything of hers surviving.

    And the rat scum in Canada who murdered his number 2 wife and two daughters for "acting too Western"--meaning they lived in Canada and wanted to live a free life with all the privileges that life entailed, including using the Internet.  He and his chief wife are condemned to life in prison.

    What's needed is reeducation for the male sex on a worldwide scale, to wit:

    You don't get to murder your girlfriend because she's better at lacrosse than you are (see trial beginning today in Charlottesville, Virginia, of George Huguely who murdered Yeardley Love).

    You don't get to stalk, rape, beat, mutilate, throw acid on, or murder the woman or girl-child in your life just because you're in a bad mood on a given day. Find some nonviolent way to deal with your nasty moods. Do something for that god of yours, like retreating to a cave for the next 50 years to contemplate or whatever.

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:38:57 AM PST

  •  Party before Country (7+ / 0-)

    The Republican Way!

    Republicans - they measure our national success by corporate profit margin, not the well being of the citizens.

    by egarratt on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:39:26 AM PST

    •  Party before Country and before (0+ / 0-)

      their wives, daughters, and neighbor's daughters.

      And it's not just the men who voted Unfavorable either.  It really makes me sad when women show so little compassion for their sisters.

      Can't never did nothin'; Can Do did!

      by susanWAstate on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:07:39 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Their wives and daughters (0+ / 0-)

        will be just fine -- see, it doesn't count for fine, upstanding families, but just for all those other women, the slutty ones.

        Now to try to end the wars we ask our gay and straight soldiers to fight. -- Chris Hayes (modified)

        by Cali Scribe on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:51:48 AM PST

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  •  Wish I were surprised by this. (9+ / 0-)

    But how can one be after the past few years?

    "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

    by tardis10 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:41:23 AM PST

  •  These Imbeciles Need To Be Called Out Often (9+ / 0-)

    I'm really quite sick of these people and their nasty, hateful agenda. They deserve no respect at all.

    This head movie makes my eyes rain.

    by The Lone Apple on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:41:23 AM PST

    •  Any Chance The MSM Will Do The Calling? (2+ / 0-)
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      shoeless, The Lone Apple

      I agree but this would be a neat factoid to insert in all the evening news programs and on blogs everywhere.

      "Recuerda siempre esto:. Luchan con el dinero y nos resistimos con el tiempo, y que van a quedarse sin dinero antes de que acabe el tiempo" -Utah Philips

      by TerryDarc on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:52:36 AM PST

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      •  For the MSM, the entire matter is over. Komen (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        TerryDarc, The Lone Apple, My Spin

        makes decision, Komen receives a shitstorm of criticism, Komen backs down from decision, End of Story!  The sorry state of our MSM does not allow for any reflection, any nuance, any introspection, or really much discussion other than the horserace.  Tweety was badgering a Mitt campaign official last week about the Mitt "I don't care about poor people" statement and the Mitt guy wanted to talk about the "Obama policies that were dragging down the economy"  Wouldn't the public discussion be better served with a factually analysis of Mitt's bogus talking points rather than a "gotcha" statement that has been beaten to death?  But that is a nuance too far for our brand of short attention span journalism.  No wonder Americans really know nothing about what is going on.

        And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

        by MrJersey on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:38:36 AM PST

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    •  They don't want your respect (5+ / 0-)

      They just want your subjugation. Accede to their demands and they'll gladly overlook your lack of enthusiasm for them.

      Well, not really, they want your respect too. These people are nuts.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:53:28 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Alan Grayson said it (13+ / 0-)

    “If you get sick America, the Republican health care plan is this: Die quickly.”

    "Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" - General Jack D. Ripper

    by wilder5121 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:41:35 AM PST

  •  Um (4+ / 0-)

    Half-ass serious/snarky question:  how much money was spent on this poll because the results aren't shocking in the least. Well maybe it could be in that in was only 51% that had an unfavorable view.

    My first reaction was

  •  ... (1+ / 0-)
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    Puddytat

    Don't you know Planned Parenthood considers a fetus to be the same as a tumor?

  •  Must Watch This.... (2+ / 0-)
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    shoeless, OldDragon

    Doing nothing is very easy for Republican party to do ... you never know when there finished. Me 2009

    by army193 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:43:21 AM PST

  •  Well (8+ / 0-)

    Maybe we should leave out the "Planned Parenthood" part and see how many of them are opposed to breast cancer screening, period.

    The numbers might surprise you...

    27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-07 (originally), liberal-leaning independent

    by TDDVandy on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:43:56 AM PST

    •  Excellent Point! (3+ / 0-)
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      shoeless, stunzeed, Cali Scribe

      And to drive home the argument that this is all about Planned Parenthood, ask cons if they support cancer screening by charitable organizations, omitting gender.

      See what that gets you.

      "Recuerda siempre esto:. Luchan con el dinero y nos resistimos con el tiempo, y que van a quedarse sin dinero antes de que acabe el tiempo" -Utah Philips

      by TerryDarc on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:57:20 AM PST

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    •  Correct. (0+ / 0-)

      It was a terribly worded question.  It should have been: "Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of breast cancer screening services from any qualified organization?"

      If you say PP, conservatives have to say no, even if it's totally contrary to their actual beliefs.

  •  Planned Parenthood=women's health care (5+ / 0-)

    First.  One needs to do a well woman examination especially breast examination in order to dispense contraception other than condoms.  A breast examination is one of the most important parts of the examination for women of all ages.  It is as significant as doing cervical cancer screens (Pap smears) and even more so.  

    •  I bet even more conservative are against (3+ / 0-)

      Pap smears. They sound dirty.

      "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have too much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little… I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clothed, ill-nourished." -Franklin Roosevelt

      by shoeless on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:56:37 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Pap smear? (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        shoeless

        Isn't that saying something bad about McCain?

        Republicans - they measure our national success by corporate profit margin, not the well being of the citizens.

        by egarratt on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:58:58 AM PST

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      •  I'd love to see the statistics (2+ / 0-)
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        shoeless, MrJersey

        Just wondering how many repub women get breast cancer screenings regularly and, of course, pap smears.  

        Betting it's an enormous number...a V A S T majority.

        But, then, of course, if a woman can't afford it...well, she shouldn't be having such a thing, y'know?

        Good GAWD, y'all !

        - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

        by r2did2 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:03:46 AM PST

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  •  Dig a little deeper. (5+ / 0-)

    25% fiscal conservatives with no place to go
    51% Neanderthals
    25% Morans

    "It does not require many words to speak the truth." -- Chief Joseph, native American leader (1840-1904)

    by highfive on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:45:30 AM PST

  •  Republican Logic (7+ / 0-)

    "We'd rather you collect a welfare check for the kid you can't support than have an abortion."

    Oh... wait... let me fix that:

    "We'd rather let your kid die of starvation than you have an abortion."

    27, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-07 (originally), liberal-leaning independent

    by TDDVandy on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:45:38 AM PST

  •  "Unfavorable" is so vague (2+ / 0-)
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    shoeless, Catte Nappe

    I'm just guessing here, but they probably have an unfavorable view of Planned Parenthood doing anything, because of money being "fungible."

  •  Conservative decisions (2+ / 0-)
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    swampyankee, TerryDarc

    When conservatives say they want to help other people make the right decisions, they really mean that they want to make decisions for other people.

    "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have too much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little… I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clothed, ill-nourished." -Franklin Roosevelt

    by shoeless on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:48:03 AM PST

  •  From the people... (3+ / 0-)
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    OldDragon, happymisanthropy, MrJersey

    ...who want you to believe that faith-based initiatives and bizarre school reform schemes are necessary as emergency measures and "where else are they going to get it?" ... a finding that mammography at PP isn't OK.

    My mom always said that the main defect of the conservative mind is a failure to see yourself in anyone else's shoes. My mom is a wise woman.

    GOP: The Party of Acid rain, Abortion of the American Dream, and Amnesty for Wall Street.

    by Attorney at Arms on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:49:42 AM PST

  •  Just as Fox News is not news... (3+ / 0-)
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    susanWAstate, ebohlman, selunesmom

    ...so are "pro-lifers" not in the least bit pro-life.  Consider these "pro-life" positions found in the typical anti-choicer's panoply of sloganeering-as-philosophy:

    - Preemptive war by the US is great
    - Bomb all those terrorist socialist Muslims
    - Beat the "ish" out of evil gays
    - Unmarried women who get pregnant got what they deserved and should suffer (no support, no health care, and definitely no abortion for coveeeeeeeenience)
    - Married women who get pregnant better have that baby or they're selfish, self-centered feminist evil slutbitches
    - Health care is not a right.  That's European Kenyan Muslim socialist thinking.  Get a job and pay for it.  If you can't afford it, get a fourth job.
    - Education is not a right.  That's European Kenyan Muslim socialist thinking.  Get a job and pay for it.  You can scrub toilets during study hall.
    - A job is not a right.  That's European Kenyan Muslim socialist thinking.  Get a job and pay for someone to hire you.
    - Abortion is so evil, those who practice it should be terminated.  Doctors, feminists, whatever.
    - Abortion is so evil, anyone who speaks in favor of it should have their livelihoods destroyed.  If it means taking down a mainstream breast cancer charity, that's collateral damage in the War On Evil.
    - Muslim terrorist socialist feminist LLLLLLLIBTARDS!

    A really great tagline appearing here soon! Watch this space!

    by madhaus on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:50:30 AM PST

    •  It all comes back to fanning the flames (0+ / 0-)

      of hate and fear, as a calculated distraction to keep their base from noticing they're voting against their own economic self-interests . . .

      Can't never did nothin'; Can Do did!

      by susanWAstate on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:13:14 AM PST

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    •  Let's not forget Ron Paul's "honest rape" (1+ / 0-)
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      madhaus

      Only women who go to the hospital and file a criminal report have actually been "raped" -- all other women who want emergency contraception are just sluts who had "buyer's remorse" after opening their legs.

      Now to try to end the wars we ask our gay and straight soldiers to fight. -- Chris Hayes (modified)

      by Cali Scribe on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:23:28 AM PST

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  •  The only lives they care about are their own (4+ / 0-)

    Otherwise, they are authoritarian narcissist ideologues whose lack of empathy borders on sociopathology. They not only believe that their views are the right ones, but need everyone else to believe this too, and live their lives according to them. This isn't about policy or morality, but about control. These people need to control other people in every way possible, and the idea of a woman controlling her own life and having the freedom to make her own decisions is simply incompatible with their authoritarian mindset.

    It's really a kind of collective mental illness on their part.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:51:41 AM PST

  •  Not Surprising (7+ / 0-)

    The Conservative leadership has been pushing the lie that Planned Parenthood is nothing but an abortion mill and anything other service they offer is only a smokescreen to allow them to continue to kill as many babies as possible.

    If the anti-Choice crowd was sane and actually cared about facts then they would content themselves with trying to convince Planned Parenthood to stop offering abortion services rather then trying to bring down an entire organization.

  •  Galloping Gorgons (1+ / 0-)
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    shoeless

    Who the fuck could be against cancer screenings?

  •  Cancer Screening (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    shoeless

    How moronic can someone be ?

  •  What you do isn't right or wrong (1+ / 0-)
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    ebohlman

    it's which team you root for.

    Cancer prevention: good, unless a godless liberal democrat like PP or (OMG!!) Obama does it. Tapping citizens' telephones & reading their emails: bad, unless a Good Guy® like Dubya does it.

    This is the simple secret behind the otherwise bewildering IOKIYAR syndrome.

    Don't let millionaires steal Social Security.
    I said, "Don't let millionaires steal Social Security!"

    by Leo in NJ on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:58:32 AM PST

  •  I'm reminded of a quote by George Carlin (7+ / 0-)
    Why? Why? Why? Why? Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't want to f*ck in the first place? Boy these conservatives are really something aren't they? they're all in favour of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn but once you're born you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no daycare, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're pre-born you're fine. If you're preschool you're f*cked. Conservatives don't give a sh*t about you until you reach military age. Then they think you are just fine. Just what they been looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. Pro-life. Pro-life. These people aren't pro-life they're killing doctors. What kind of pro-life is that? What they'll do anything they can to save a fetus but if it grows up to be a doctor they just might have to kill it? They're not pro-life. You know what they are? They're anti-woman. Simple as it gets. Anti-woman. They don't like them. They don't like women. They believe a woman's primary role is to function as a broodmare for the state. Pro-life. You don't see many of these white anti-abortion women volunteering to have any black fetuses transplanted into their uterus's do you? No you don't see them adopting a whole lot of crack babies do you? No that might be something Christ would do.
  •  As Steven Colbert noted, and Fox News reported (3+ / 0-)

    these women can just go to Walgreen's for their pap smears and breast exams.  Ladies, just look for the aisle with the stirrups.

    http://gawker.com/...

  •  ...considering what I am currently... (3+ / 0-)

    ...going through right now...I will say this... eff them.

    "Ignorance is bliss only for the ignorant. The rest of us must suffer the consequences."

    by paradise50 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:03:56 AM PST

  •  The key is "why"? (0+ / 0-)

    As with many such poll questions the useful information is behind the reason for the response.In this case I would hazard a guess that it's not that they don't want women getting cancer screenings. For most it is probable that they have blindly followed the ridiculous criticism that PP simply does a "pass through" referral. I have heard some standing on "principle" that other providers should be used because the few abortions PP does taint everything else they do.

    from a bright young conservative: “I’m watching my first GOP debate…and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!”

    by Catte Nappe on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:05:34 AM PST

  •  It would be interesting to ask a series of (3+ / 0-)

    questions before this one.

    1) Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion women receiving breast cancer screening services?

    2) Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of woman's health care clinics for uninsured and low-income woman  providing breast cancer screening services?

    3) Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Planned Parenthood's breast cancer screening program, which provides breast cancer screening to uninsured and low-income woman?

    I wonder is phrasing it that way would skew the results, or if just the mention of planned parenthood is enough to get a unfavorable opinion .

    All of the true things I am about to tell you are shameless lies.- Bokonon

    by ryan81 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:07:42 AM PST

  •  Pathetic, but true. (0+ / 0-)

    So-called "Pro-Lifers' care nothing about women's lives. They only feign concern for women's health when trying to lie about the non-existent link between abortion and breast cancer or their continual bankrupt claims that abortion harms women psychologically. Once these lies are exposed, their concerns for women's health are hollow.

    What is so very sad is that there are women within their ranks who are traitors to other women's health and lives. Case in point; Karen Handel, that right wing hack at Susan Komen who drove the disastrous decision to make breast cancer screenings a political football and thus, endanger thousands of women's lives.

    If Not Us, Who,..... If Not Now, When?

    by VirginiaBlue on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:12:53 AM PST

  •  What conservatives heard: (0+ / 0-)

    Do you approve of blah blah blah blah blah Planned Parenthood blah blah blah blah blah blah?

    "You're not stuck in traffic, you are traffic."

    by nominalize on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:13:08 AM PST

  •  For them, (0+ / 0-)

    the fetus is a totem, a quasi-religious artifact onto which they can project whatever they want. Once its born, not so much.
    Hence the vote in the NH House to defund  PP and any other entity that performs elective abortions.  Soon they will vote on a bill that strips any extra money to families that have a baby on welfare.
    This is about punishing sexuality,  especially that of poor people.
    We cannot allow this psychosis to dictate public policy, but by sleeping in 2010 and allowing the red tide to take over many of our state houses, "private nonprofits" such as Komen were. emboldened.
    The silver lining is that they all exposed themselves for what they are: misogynists.

  •  As of 3/3/12, 33 yr survivor of 1A cervical cancer (3+ / 0-)
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    A PP screening saved my life.

    Fuck you Conservatives.

    I have spent many years of my life in opposition and I rather like the role. - Eleanor Roosevelt

    by Rogneid on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:16:04 AM PST

  •  Of course, (5+ / 0-)

    if we had true universal health care coverage for all Americans, we wouldn't need Planned Parenthood to provide basic health services, and the Catholic Church wouldn't have to scream about covering women's reproductive health care. If conservatives don't like seeing their tax dollars go to pay for health care, tough -- I don't like seeing my tax dollars go to kill people in Iraq or lining contractor's pockets either, but I still pay my taxes.

    Now to try to end the wars we ask our gay and straight soldiers to fight. -- Chris Hayes (modified)

    by Cali Scribe on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:16:30 AM PST

  •  We need a surgical analysis of these responses! (0+ / 0-)

    In the details, I see:

    - 60% of conservatives support Komen's withdrawal of funds
    - 48% said it made them more likely to support Komen, and 43% said they'd more likely to donate to Komen because of it
    - 46% said they think the decision helps Komen's image

    The PP breast screening question was the ninth in series of questions that seemed to me to be conditioning the survey audience in every way possible to react as their political bent would suggest. In that crowd of questions and responses, I don't see 51% as an outlier number at all.

    I am not suggesting PPP's survey was at all biased. Simply that when you start a drumbeat of single-issue questions, no matter how neutrally they are phrased - and someone stays on the line for eight straight questions with very little subtlety to them - the respondents are probably eager to stick with the survey and solidify their views throughout.

    In addition, nothing makes a respondent think about how and where breast screening is done or paid for, theirs or anyone else's. As I understand the question sequence (from the data PPP published, which is wonderfully helpful! Cheers to pollsters who have the guts to do that!), only the last two questions touch the respondent's own experiences.

    With those responses to Q9, it would be insightful to know more. I.e. Have they had breast screening? Where? Did insurance pay? Is a PP center anywhere near where you live? Have they used PP for anything, screening or otherwise? Has any family member or relative? And I'd love to know how men/women came out specifically on Q9.

    It also looks (to my untutored eye) like the Democratic respondents pretty much clumped together similarly on "their side of the aisle" with that sequence of questions.

    All that said, it seems to me the whole darn survey buttresses the conservatives' lack of sympathy and empathy for breast screening and PP.

    Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

    by TRPChicago on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:21:40 AM PST

  •  There is very little difference between (0+ / 0-)

    Christianist "conservative" Republicans and clinical sociopaths.

  •  The hypocrisy of perfection... (1+ / 0-)
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    I signed up with John Cole:

    "...I’m not naturally inclined to be antagonistic towards religion. My parents are both religious and are definite believers. I like Sundays off, I like the Easter and Christmas break, I don’t care if we have to do silly things like pray before certain events (I can just think about other things while they babble), it doesn’t bother me that In God We Trust and other such statements are everywhere in public life, and so on. I’m not some crazed reactionary on the issue.

    But from where I stand these days, the only thing I see religion doing in the public sector is gay bashing and telling women, mostly poor and desperate and in deplorable financial and personal situations, what to do with their bodies. I see busybodies deciding what drugs they can dispense to which customers, or deciding that they don’t have to issue a marriage license because of some petty deity that I don’t believe in told them to hate their fellow citizens and ignore the law. In a country in dire financial straits but still spending billions and billions of dollars on education, I see religious folks actively and openly working to make our schoolkids dumber. I see them shooting people who provided a medical procedure, and I see others rummaging through people’s personal lives to find out who hasn’t lived up the word of God. I see glassy-eyed fools running for President claiming that vaccines that save lives actually cause cancer, or that if you get raped and are pregnant, you should just lie back and think of Jeebus and make the best of a bad situation. In fact, everywhere you look these days, if Christianity or religion is getting a mention, it means something ugly is happening and someone somewhere is being victimized, marginalized, or otherwise abused. Go read some of the arguments against integration and you’ll see the same bible verses used today against homosexuals. Fifty years from now, they’ll be recycling them again to trash someone else they don’t like or who isn’t good enough for them.

    So, I’m sorry, Ross. I don’t give a shit about your invisible Jeebus, I don’t care if under the iron hand of Obamacare there might be a little more access to contraceptives, and until you and the rest of your godbothering pals get your act together and stop being a burden and cancer on society, I really don’t care what you think. Deal with it."

  •  no surprise (0+ / 0-)

    They oppose vaccination against the human papilloma virus, too. They'd prefer people get cancer than violate their pre determined world view.

  •  In Order to "Plan Parenthood" (0+ / 0-)

    That would mean that people have to think about SEX!

    In the Republican, righteous wing of the American population, that is sinful.  How could anyone ever think about SEX, intentionally.

    Atter all, the last person who intentionally thought about SEX, was recorded in the Bible.  Eve thought about SEX, she enticed Adam with SEX, and look what happened. . . People have been living in Sin ever since.  And, nobody should ever enjoy SEX.

    Least of all Newt and Callista.

    But, I digress.

    You know that no good wide-stance Congressional would ever intentionally think about SEX.  You know that no Louisiana Senator enjoying a moment with a Prostitute would ever intentionally think about SEX.  You know that no Virginia Governor hiking the Appalachian trail through Brazil would ever intentionally think about SEX.  You certainly know that the Republicans who sanctimoniously tried to impeach a Democratic President would never intentionally think about SEX.

    So, the entire problem with Planned Parenthood is all in the name.  How in the world could any self-righteous, goup of Republicans ever get past the name, to think about all of the good that the Organization might do to help Women's Health.

    Impeach Grover Norquist! Defeat a Republican!

    by NM Ray on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:29:20 AM PST

  •  I suppose it won't matter to them (1+ / 0-)
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    but  the thought that keeps running through my head is that Planned Parenthood has most likely prevented more abortions then any "Pro Life" organization or maybe all of them put together. Further I think the pro-lifers have caused more abortions through their efforts to get contraceptives outlawed or make them hard to get.

     Has anyone seen any studies on this? It seems PP was the go to organization for sexually active women for all these years it seems it would have an effect on the conception rates.

    I try not to come here more often then I do.

    by Maroon watch on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:57:05 AM PST

  •  25%. The same percentage that still loved W (2+ / 0-)
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    after 8 years of incompetence and roughly the same percentage of GOPers who thought Sarah Palin was a legitimate candidate for VPOTUS.

  •  Memo to rethugs (0+ / 0-)

    Too bad.  America' women won this round.

    We are the not silent majority.

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