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Romney speaks after Nevada caucuses
Pictured above: everyone in Nevada excited about Romney. Literally. (Rick Wilking/Reuters)
So how can Mitt Romneybot win his first majority vote in the nomination contest, and still come out a loser? Let's do some math.

Romney won 50.1 percent of 32,894 votes cast.

There are 471,292 registered Republicans in Nevada.

That means that Romney garnered the support of 3.5 percent of them. Not exactly lighting it up, is he?

It wasn't just Romney who generated no excitement in Nevada. The entire GOP field was a disaster.

Mitt Romney’s easy victory in Nevada’s Republican presidential caucuses might, in the long run, be less important than the fact that a surprising number of Republicans who could have participated Saturday chose to stay home.

Republicans’ disappointing turnout foreshadows difficulty energizing GOP voters in Nevada, a key swing state in November’s general election.

Turnout was unlikely to match 2008, when 44,000 Republicans participated in Nevada’s caucuses.

Only 33,000 votes cast during what is still a competitive primary process is just brutal for a state party decimated in recent years by the likes of Sharrrrrron Angle and Sue "Chicken Lady" Lowden. Their incompetence is stark, like letting an unpopular Sen. Harry Reid survive in the blowout 2010 GOP wave year. And now, they can't even muster up a base level of enthusiasm for their presidential field.

Take out Ron Paul's 6,175 votes and the GOP's results look even worse. The Paulbots won't be flocking to Romney come November. Nevada won't be as close as people think it will be.

If you want to know what real excitement looks like, take a gander at Democratic turnout in 2008: 116,000.

Indeed, the only thing funnier than the lack of give-a-fuck from Nevada Republicans is the spin from the party leadership:

Buell blamed Saturday’s low turnout on the difficult caucus process and the sour experience voters had in 2008, when there were fewer caucus locations, long lines and a lack of volunteers.

He also blamed nice weather and the Super Bowl — people were skiing or stocking up on food for the big game.

Check out the next line, a beautiful smackdown from the writer penning the piece:

Low turnout is usually blamed on bad weather.

Yeah, it wasn't the weather. Or the Super Bowl that took place the next day. It was Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, and Ron Paul. And to be fair, would you be excited if you were a Republican, and those were your options?

Originally posted to kos on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:29 AM PST.

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  •  What you neglected to mention is... (13+ / 0-)


    •  Heh, I have a somewhat different take on this... (6+ / 0-)

      The lack of enthusiasm is partly from the candidates, but it's mostly from the situation.

      Who cares about the primary. It's pretty clear Romney will win the nomination. So what? He's not going to beat the guy who killed Osama bin Laden, got us (mostly) out of Iraq, set us on a course to get (mostly) out of Afghanistan, helped Libya overthrow its dictator, pass a new healthcare law with provisions most of America likes, is the first black president, and all and all seems like a pretty good smart guy. It's just really unlikely that the Republican nominee will win in November. And I think most people know that. Hence the lack of enthusiasm.

      •  I disagree (5+ / 0-)
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        tuma, eg4190, ssgbryan, Ckntfld, ladybug53

        Republicans think Obama can't win, and it wouldn't matter who they nominate. They honestly think the President is so weak that a lawn gnome could beat him. I wouldn't be surprised if that carries through the general as well, with Republicans thinking they don't have to try very hard because Obama is going to lose anyway.

        •  I think your insult to (4+ / 0-)

          lawn ornaments is way out of line.

          Romney clearly lacks the character, warmth, and personality of the average lawn gnome. And I am not a partisan lawn gnome supporter by any means.

          So while some Republicans may believe that a lawn gnome could beat Obama, I seriously doubt any believe Romney is a sure thing.

        •  Yep!! they really do think Obama can't win.... (1+ / 0-)
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          that's the prevailing wisdom on of the fundlies. They can't imagine America voting a kenya-muslim-socilaist twice. It's unthinkable.....

          "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

          by tuma on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 01:16:23 PM PST

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        •  Why do you think that? (0+ / 0-)

          Can you elaborate?

          I'm sure 20% or so are probably still in shocked disbelief that Obama won in 2008, and don't think he can possibly win again, but I don't think that's where the majority of Republicans fall - although perhaps the loudest ones fall there.

          Or rather, Republican candidates are trying to whip up that emotion when it really doesn't exist much at all in the minds of average people (besides the few stark-raving-mad Republicans that you sometimes see interviewed on cable news), because they know the only way they win 2012 is for some of this stuff to take hold.

          •  They live in an echo chamber (0+ / 0-)

            We see polling for all over the place that has Obama up and down by various amounts. We look at the information critically and assess what the actual state of the race may be. They watch Fox news.

            Check out the Freepers or Red Staters, and you'll see exactly what I mean. They honestly believe that Obama is Jimmy Carter in October of 1980. Unfortunately they are also so against Mitt Romney its not even funny and some are even convinced that Romney is a plant to throw the election to Obama.

            •  Right, that's the 20% I speak of (0+ / 0-)

              I just can't bring myself to believe that most voting Republicans really care enough about politics that they're watching Fox News all that much in February 2012. Even Bill O'Reilly, Fox's top show only has a viewership of 2.9M viewers. I mean, those ratings numbers are high, but at the end of the day, it's less than 1% of the American populace.

              I think a much larger segment of the Republican party is vulnerable to Fox-style biased viewpoints, those viewpoints haven't taken hold in the minds of too many people, yet. And that word "yet" is what the 2012 election rests on, IMHO...

  •  Bad weather all right. (13+ / 0-)

    The coming storm clouds of the impending Obama victory!

    Today, strive to be the person you want to be.

    by GoGoGoEverton on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:33:45 AM PST

    •  I wouldn't get too comfy in that thought... (10+ / 0-)

      The repugs may not be excited over their candidates but they sure do hate Obama!

      They'll close ranks and march like the good little authoritarian troopers that they are when the general election gets rolling.

      Things look better for Obama and for the congressional Dems at the moment but there are very definitely going to be downturns in the months ahead... especially with Europe impacting us... and the flying monkeys will be a howlin'!

      It is going to be a tough election so keep your powder dry friends!

      •  You're not going to win (2+ / 0-)
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        m50bing0, Ckntfld

        with just Republicans who hate Obama though -- there are plenty of Republicans out there who may not care for some of his policies but overall see that the country's on a decent path. (Yes, there are still sane Republicans out there, including ones in my family.) And the more rightward the Republican candidates go, the more they're going to lose the moderates and the independents and those are the ones who are key to winning any campaign.

        And if Romney is going to be the nominee (as it now appears likely), those voters are going to have to weigh their hatred of Obama against their distrust of a Mormon, and many of them may figure the devil they know (Obama) is better than the one they don't know (Romney). The big question will be will they show up at the polls and just leave President blank (or vote for a 3rd party candidate), or will they stay home and hurt the down-ticket races as well?

        Now to try to end the wars we ask our gay and straight soldiers to fight. -- Chris Hayes (modified)

        by Cali Scribe on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 12:04:08 PM PST

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        •  People got complacent in 2010 too! (2+ / 0-)
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          Eyesbright, TKO333

          Some good news doesn't = winning in 2012!

          There certainly will be some bad economic reports before the election and this election will be all about jobs and the economy.

          The trend line looks good right now but the situation in the EU is going to cause a contraction of their economies and we are linked to them. Just how much of an impact they will have remains to be seen... so...  

          It ain't over till its over as the saying goes.

        •  Doing voter suppression campaigns on these turds (0+ / 0-)

          is going to be fun.

          Florida was better for them. Still, a major decline compared with 2008.

          And how did Gingrich get to be the flag bearer for Far Right Fundamentalist Jesus-freak Teabaggers ?????

          A whoring slutcrook with nothing but air time on Fox News to recommend him !

      •  Europe may not be as much an impact anymore (0+ / 0-)

        than already is. Europe has been in the grip of their crisis for yrs now. The US economy/markets have already discounted Europe. The growth we are seeing now is growth mostly driven from within and the Americas....and as long as the narrative  is that we are creating rather the losing jobs....Obama would survive albeit severely bruised...

        "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

        by tuma on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 01:21:23 PM PST

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    •  I think I have the answer (0+ / 0-)

      The Republicans didn't know what a caucus is; they thought it was a cactus.  Who's want to go out and spend hours with a cactus?

      Democrats must
      Earn the trust
      Of the 99% --
      That's our intent!

      "I love this goddamn country, and we're going to take it back." -- Saul Alinksy OCcupy!

      by Seneca Doane on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 12:57:24 PM PST

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  •  "One more such victory shall undo me" (16+ / 0-)

    Pyrrhus of Epirus Mittens of Romney

    Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. (Terry Pratchett)

    by angry marmot on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:34:55 AM PST

  •   (2+ / 0-)
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    Inland, Greasy Grant

    but there's a sale on cheese dip!

  •  Isn't Saturday a big day for (9+ / 0-)

    taking a bath?  That, along with drying your hair afterwards, might have cut into caucus participation.

  •  Turnout narrative will impact GOP fundraising (1+ / 0-)
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    As will polls.

    Even with unlimited funding, why place public bets against an incumbent favored to win.

    Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project.

    by PatriciaVa on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:36:45 AM PST

    •  Because There Are Thousands of Races, and Trying (0+ / 0-)

      to maintain energy in the big ticket draw in 2008 with Palin is what saved them from a terrible drubbing that year and set them up for crushing us 2 years later. Richard Viguerie explained the idea after the 2008 convention.

      Unlike the Democrats, the Repubs plan and message for elections both present and future.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:41:17 AM PST

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  •  Most telling part of Washington Post Poll (13+ / 0-)

    That the more people get to know of Romney, 24% said it made them like him more, 52% said it made them dislike him more...

    Gonna have to spend a lot of money to move that needle--in reality, there isn't enough money in the world to do so--ask Meg Whitman.

    •  They Don't Need to Move Romney Up. They Need to (2+ / 0-)
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      deep, Ckntfld

      move Obama down and they have about 5 billion ways to do that they're saving for the moment.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:44:07 AM PST

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      •  Doubt it (5+ / 0-)

        Obama has been a national target for 5 years. They've already thrown everything they have at him. Yeah, they can lie, but that's about all they have left. Meanwhile, all we have to do is tell the truth.

        It's not 11th dimensional chess; it's just chess. And he's KICKING YOUR ASS.

        by pneuma on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:51:18 AM PST

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      •  Move Obama down? with what? to where again? (0+ / 0-)

        No president has ever engendered more hatred than Obama but stilll.....his favourables are OK. After exhuasting he's a socialist, muslim, kenyan, monkey, loves gays, anti-christ, hates America - what else is there to be said?. Is there anyone who hasn't made up their mind about Obama?...I doubt it...

        "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

        by tuma on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 01:34:54 PM PST

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  •  Must be the fault of the Nevada GOP hierarchy.... (0+ / 0-)

    yeah....incompetence!......that's the ticket!...

  •  Skiing... (2+ / 0-)
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    JML9999, icemilkcoffee

    except there is next to no snow...

  •  This is a better sign for Romney than you purport. (2+ / 0-)
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    guinea, ivorybill

    Caucus turnout is typically quite poor compared to registered voters. People who show up to caucus are likely to become volunteers.

    Romney and Obama are tied, and it's going to take a lot of work to win that state. As we saw in 2008, primary campaigns give GE campaigns an opportunity to organize.

    Overall: Romney hasn't lost at all. He's quite competitive in NV.

    •  Tied? (2+ / 0-)
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      Aquarius40, majcmb1

      The link you posted brings up a list of polls, the most recent of which shows Obama up by 6.

      We're through being cool. Eliminate the ninnies and the twits. -- Devo

      by Woodrow Stool on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:44:14 AM PST

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    •  Counting chickens and all that... (3+ / 0-)
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      maxomai, FindingMyVoice, Eyesbright

      Several of the Western states might well be in play, but there are reasons to expect that Romney might do better out west than the other scoundrels.  

      For one thing, there are a hell of a lot of Mormons in NV and you can bet they will turn out.  It wouldn't surprise me if there were more than a few who voted for Harry Reid and then turn around and vote for Mitt.  The Mormons have a long history of persecution and many of them have fierce group identity and loyalty.  Don't discount it.  This is more likely to be a factor in NV than anywhere else... if UT and Idaho are in play the GOP is history, and if Oregon is in play, we're in deep sh*t.

      I suspect though that quite a few caucus goers on Saturday were Mormons.  

      “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

      by ivorybill on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:59:12 AM PST

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      •  I would be stunned if OR were in play (2+ / 0-)
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        ivorybill, Eyesbright

        This state has been trending Democratic since 2004.

        But yes, you're right: if it IS in play, we're in DEEP shit.

      •  But where was that fierce group identity Saturday (3+ / 0-)
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        Cali Scribe, ivorybill, tuma

        When Romney mustered a measly 16,000 votes?

        It would seem that with all the attacks from Gingrich, Mormon voters, assuming they will be such a force, would have come out for their man Romney. If this was a sign of their power, they aren't going to be much of factor. Certainly not the factor Latinos will be, and Latinos didn't give Romney jack shit.

        We're through being cool. Eliminate the ninnies and the twits. -- Devo

        by Woodrow Stool on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 12:07:07 PM PST

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        •  All I'm saying (1+ / 0-)
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          Is don't take things for granted.  Mormons do vote, and it's a long way until November.  If Romney picks Sandoval, he may even pick up some Latino voters.  Remember, all he has to do is pick up some.

          I'm not trying to rain on the party.  Honestly, I do suspect (and hope) that Obama will get re-elected, and he'll have my money and time in support of that goal.  I think he might well carry Nevada.  I'm only saying that low turnout in a Nevada caucus right now may not translate into victory in November for our side, and that my experience with Mormon communities (I've spent a fair amount of time in Utah and NM, have brothers in Utah and AZ) is that they do vote and they do take elections seriously, and there is a great deal of solidarity within mainstream Mormonism.  

          “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

          by ivorybill on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 12:21:21 PM PST

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      •  No way Romney will carry Multnomah County, (2+ / 0-)
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        ivorybill, virginislandsguy

        and you don't win Oregon without Multnomah County.  Clackamas is iffy as is Washington.  Lane is a lock as is Benton and Lincoln.  Jackson could actually go either way (my personal opinion).  Really, don't worry about the left coast.  I think we're safe.

      •  why should they even be in play? (0+ / 0-)

        "if UT and Idaho are in play the GOP is history"....these are set GOP states..

        Last time Obama had 364 EVs. that's a total of 94 to spare. We may lose VA, NC, IN, NH,OR, NV and even FL or PA and yet survive.
        -As long as we don't lose 2 of OH,FL,PA we'd be bruised but we'd OK...

        "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

        by tuma on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 02:04:59 PM PST

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    •  Romney and Obama are tied, really? (0+ / 0-)

      if all Romney is doing now is tieing Obama, then Romney is in trouble. Remember Romney has been on stump for  about 8 months now. He has given hundreds of speeches, 100s of TV appearances, has "thrashed" Obama over and over; has been in your eye everyday for months now, has run 1000s of TV spots....and after all this,  it is still a  tie?
      -Consider the fact that Obama is yet to get on the stump. Yet to run TV spots. Yet to address Romney by name. Yet to take a microscope to Romney proposals. yet to define Romney...but Romney has already done all these. Infact when the nominee thing is over, Romney is just going to dust up his old anti-Obama ads whereas Obama is yet to put one up against Romney.
      -By the time Obama is done  drawing the contrast....Romney would not be what you think.
      -To be comfortable down the stretch, Romney is supposed to be ahead at this point by no less that 8 points

      "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

      by tuma on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 01:50:04 PM PST

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  •  Low turnout was expected, don't draw to much concl (2+ / 0-)
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    Sue B, aufklaerer

    conclusions from it.  This was only the 2nd GOP caucus in Nevada.  The last experience 4 years ago was such a disaster that it turned many off from going this year.  There was at least some novelty factor during the McCain caucus.  

    Nevada doesn't have a tradition of caucusing.  It's not a rural state.  They should go back to primaries.  It's getting silly.

    We need to be vigilant about NV in the general election.  It's a swing state.

  •  According to Romney surrogate John Sununu... (12+ / 0-)

    Nevada Republicans who stayed home were actually secretly voting for Romney.

    Just like the Kossacks who plan to stay home this November will be doing.


  •  In 2008, Romney got 51.1% (8+ / 0-)

    and 22,646 votes

    In 2012, he got 16,486 votes.

    2008 results

    2012 results

  •  John Sununu is busy digging up the silent Majority (5+ / 0-)

    Wouldn't that constitute voter fraud if zombies try and vote?

    Romney Campaign Spins Low Turn Out: Voters Staying At Home Secretly Support Romney

    By Adam Peck on Feb 6, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    With just 33,000 voters showing up to the Nevada caucuses on Saturday, Republicans may be quietly concerned about a lack of enthusiasm for their candidates — and especially front-runner Mitt Romney — after another primary state produces lower-than-expected turnout.

    But not former New Hampshire governor John Sununu. The Romney campaign surrogate appeared on MSNBC this morning and offered a novel interpretation of the low figures:

       SUNUNU: In an odd sense when turnout is down, contrary to what you are hearing, people are satisfied with the winning and the candidate that’s winning. They are satisfied with Mitt Romney.

    Response: If you "got it" you wouldn't be a republican

    by JML9999 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:41:13 AM PST

  •  HAHA!! Epic fail for the GOP. LOL n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    “For the first time in two decades, Osama bin Laden is not a threat to this country.” President Obama 1/24/12

    by BarackStarObama on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:43:10 AM PST

  •  Dem Caucuses? (0+ / 0-)

    What happened in the Democratic caucuses, or are they scheduled for another time?

  •  Is it time to start dismissing Paulists as a cult? (1+ / 0-)
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    Not just jokingly but actually. No one votes for the guy.

  •  Good for Now. But in November They'll Have the (1+ / 0-)
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    chance to vote out Satan, and that's going to crank them up significantly.

    And also the air war will open up on Obama in a few months.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:46:12 AM PST

  •  Also important to note (2+ / 0-)
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    Aquarius40, ivorybill

    That Romney was carried along by the  LDS vote, when they are removed Romney drops to a miserable 37% of the vote. This race can drag forever and ever, forcing Romney to keep up these races with lousy numbers.

  •  I couldn't attend... (3+ / 0-)
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    JML9999, FindingMyVoice, rja

    the caucuses...the sky was out.

  •  I wonder what the Mittbot (2+ / 0-)
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    angry marmot, Eyesbright

    spent in Nevada to garner his votes.  Whatever it was, the cost per vote would be stupendous.  

    The longer I live, the clearer I perceive how unmatchable a compliment one pays when he says of a man "he has the courage to utter his convictions." Mark Twain

    by Persiflage on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:47:07 AM PST

  •  He can't even count on Mormon turnout. O.o (1+ / 0-)
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    There are about 300k Mormons in the state.  Of course, not all Mormons are Republican, and not all Mormon R's support Romney, but it's generally implied to be his most enthusiastic demographic other than the Ultra-rich.

  •  Sorry Kos. (1+ / 0-)
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    You lost me at "If you were a Republican."

    I can't imagine that. I'd have to go have brain surgery, or something else radical, like drinking an extreme amount. (Enough to lower my IQ)

    Rule of acquisition # 185. If you want to ruin yourself ..... banks are the most reliable way

    by wrights on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:52:09 AM PST

  •  Enthusiasm gap cuts both ways (0+ / 0-)

    before anyone gets to happy about the Republican enthusiasm gap note that in 08 Obama only had to open and office and hundreds of volunteers flocked in to work. People dropped out of school and took time off work t volunteer. I took cars of people to adjoining state as did many others. After his Wall Street presidency and attacks on the "professional left" his turnout is destined for a huge drop off. Meanwhile republicans may rally around Mitt just because they hate Obama so much.  

    •  Reminds me of a song (1+ / 0-)
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      Yes, we'll rally 'round the flag, boys
      We'll rally round again
      We will rally from the hillsides
      We'll gather from the plain
      Shouting the battle cry of freedom

      Ry Cooder did this wonderful version of the Battle Cry of Freedom.  It's kind of wistful, not exactly filled with blustering pride, not with the nationalism of the original, but more with a sense that the battle's not ever really over... that we have to keep moving forward.  

      Here's the deal.  A lot of us feel regrets at the last four years, and think about how things might have been done differently.  Maybe there isn't the wild enthusiasm of 2008, but there's something different now that's as strong and as essential.  The GOP resemble nothing so much as the Confederacy reborn, and just as the Union was exhausted in 1864, we need to see it through in 2012.  We can't go back.  If by obstruction the GOP manages to make the country ungovernable, and they win as a result, then we move into a different and far uglier phase.  But if we can win and get through the next four years, we may have blunted the worst of the GOP and we may find ourselves in far better shape as a nation than we can see right now from our depressing situation.

      So give the tune a listen, and then volunteer and donate. Let's not get diverted by the third party chimera, and let's keep our eyes on the target. Maybe our enthusiasms will be a little more sober, but this is an even more important election than 2008.  People may well remember that come next November.

      “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

      by ivorybill on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 12:15:13 PM PST

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  •  Doing the math: It's what the GOP fear most. (3+ / 0-)
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    ChadmanFL, Aquarius40, Dragon5616

    Romney gets 50% of the caucus, equaling 3.5% of all registered Republicans.

    The other 50% --- the ones who don't like Romney --- equal another 3.5% of all registered Republicans.

    That means that 7% of all registered Republicans were there, which equates to 93% of all registered Republicans not being there.

    Seems to me that "the 93%" just figured out how to do a "#Occupy@Everywhere_Nevada" without even setting foot in the place.  Talk about your stealth flash-mobs....

    I count even the single grain of sand to be a higher life-form than the likes of Sarah Palin and her odious ilk.

    by Liberal Panzer on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:53:12 AM PST

  •  Don't read too much into this (1+ / 0-)
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    The RWNJ's Want Pres O OUT of office really, really bad-History and consideration of their "thinking pattern" tells me they will Support whomever wins the Primary and do so in Droves-they simply are Not excited with the current candidates and don't care that much Who wins-but history suggests they WILL support their winner in the General....
    Those who wish to see the Pres re-elected cannot afford to feel secure about any of this type of stuff.  We cannot relax and believe this election is a "cake-walk" because WE understand what the RW is about, most of the electorate is NOT following and don't Know whats going on as much as we think/want-Period.

  •  "langweilig" comes to mind (0+ / 0-)

    Boring, in English. A re-hash of stale ideas long past their freshness date and long since discredited. By allowing the right wing to hijack the party, the GOP has abdicated its role facilitating new (for them) ideas promoting stability in political and economic discourse. Newt didn't start this movement, but he is Lenin to Reagan's Marx. By the same analogy, Mittens is merely a Malenkov.

  •  There were no "dog whistle" items to attract (2+ / 0-)
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    deep, Fredamae

    It's pretty obvious that the low turnout is attributable to the fact that there were no "dog whistle" items to attract the fundies.  Across America, the Republican powers-that-be are encouraging, nee writing if necessary, anti-choice / anti-woman legislation to have on the November, 2012 ballot.  Perfect example:  the so-called "Personhood" amendment that will be on the ballot in many states.  These dog whistle issues will bring out the christian fundamentalists in droves - and, while they're in the voting booth, most will hold their nose and vote for Romney as a vote against Obama.

    Progressives need to be extremely careful about becoming complacent.  Low turnout in primaries does NOT equate to low turnout in the coming presidential election.  

    To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men. -Abraham Lincoln

    by Eyesbright on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:57:14 AM PST

    •  Additionally, MSM (Corporate Media is Selling this (0+ / 0-)

      notion (illusion) that the RWNJ's are not turning out because their candidate hopefuls are "just that bad"..

      Do You trust Corporate Media?  

      This type of stuff is just beginning and yes-I agree about "Dog Whistles".

      How many times are we gonna fall for this?
      Does anyone hear the RW fretting about this?  Do you see any "pearl clutching"?  No.
      I am facing the fact that RW'rs are much better at keeping their troops in line and on message no matter what they themselves want and believe.  They are party loyals.  Period.

  •  has Mitt been sniffin his hair gel? (0+ / 0-)

    they guy thinks he's a serious candidate. and can't give credit where it's due. and is trying to buy the presidency. people can see that, and he can't?

  •  Harry Reid (0+ / 0-)

    Hasn't he won in a dem...for like EONS?

    Much as the press wants to present it...I'm not so sure it's really that fertile ground for repubs.  This is especially seeing the lack of enthusiasm in this republican primary event.

    - If you don't like gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones who keep having gay babies.

    by r2did2 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 11:59:31 AM PST

    •  Harry Reid is a Mormon (0+ / 0-)

      It's enough to give him a bare majority of votes to win in Nevada.  

      Check out 2010 Nevada voting to see what I'm talking about.  It was a horribly close vote when you consider who his opponent was (Sharon Angle).

      To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men. -Abraham Lincoln

      by Eyesbright on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 12:49:27 PM PST

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  •  Why vote when the GOP bozos (0+ / 0-)

    probably couldn't count the votes?

  •  What a lame excuse (0+ / 0-)

    "Hey man, you going to vote at the caucuses today?"

    "No, tomorrow is the Super Bowl."

    "But, well...why can't you do it today?"


  •  As for nice weather (2+ / 0-)
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    When the Nevada Republicans held their last caucus on Jan. 19, 2008 the high was 55 degrees in Las Vegas.

    On Saturday the high was 57 degrees.

    Try again, losers.

  •  Minnesota (3+ / 0-)
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    Eyesbright, m50bing0, Gneissguy

    It will be interesting to see what the turnout for the Minnesota caucuses tomorrow night will be and what the numbers for the Republicans will be compared to 2008.

    I can tell one thing about this race so far: Romney has not closed the sale yet -not by a long shot.

  •  Florida had a 14% vote fall-off. (1+ / 0-)
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    A dropoff of 277,146, or 14.2 percent.

    Read more here:

    Of course, Newt gets his "facts" wrong.


  •  2012 turn for Dems NV Caucus was much lower too (0+ / 0-)

    However Republicnas had a competitive race and Democrats did not this time. Obama's OFA however has built as good grassroots volunteer base in NV and it is growing with the help of CA OFA.

  •  pretty sad for Democracy when S bowl rates higher. (1+ / 0-)
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    than voting

  •  Thank you oh spirit of all that is good! (0+ / 0-)

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

  •  Based on the GOPs Union Vote rules... he lost! (0+ / 0-)

    Based on the GOP's own Union Busting rules he only won that measly 3.5% in the caucus.

    So the winner of the Nevada caucus goes to "Not Mitt"!

    Way to go Not Mitt!

    "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

    by Wynter on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 02:16:35 PM PST

  •  Had it up to here with these bigots! (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans believe an innuendo is an Italian suppository!

    Republicans: Being a big shot with god as a front!

    People with less cognitive capacity (lower IQ) will be attracted to simplifying ideologies like conservatism. They make it easy, they tell ya who to hate. A conservatives job is to remember the line!

    Frankly, I think all the republican candidates are bigots, even Romney.  The Mormon church is unfriendly to gays:
    Members of the church who self-identify as gay, lesbian, or bisexual may remain in good standing in the church if they abstain from homosexual relations; this includes avoiding impure thoughts and sexual fantasies (Wiki).  That's a laugh.  Polygamists telling others what is immoral?  The Mormons would still use polygamy if it was legal.  As someone from Norway said: polygamy is illegal in Norway because it favors the males right to choose multiple wives while not allowing the same for women!  Pretty astute, I would say!  

  •  In principle this news would be a good (0+ / 0-)

    omen for the Democrats. However there is one major caveat, in that we are lacking a control, or comparison: the turnout for a 2012 Democratic primary, in comparison to the much inflated numbers from the close contest in 2008 between Clinton and Obama. How much of a turnout would a Democratic primary in 2012 have seen?

    Turnout has been low in 2012, as it was much reduced in 2010 from 2008, due in part from disenchantment with the political process, and in part from the Depression level economic conditions in Nevada (and Florida, but less so with New Hampshire and elsewhere, so far).

    H'mm. I'm not terribly into this, anymore.

    by Knarfc on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 10:56:54 PM PST

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