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Americans Elect is, according to its website, "a nonpartisan nonprofit whose only mission is to let the American people directly nominate their choice for president."

AE is largely, and secretly, funded by Wall Street types who support what Justin Elliott of Salon has called "a kind of pro-establishment, 'why can’t we just all get along by agreeing to dismantle Social Security'-style centrism."

AE has spent many millions getting on the ballot in about 15 states, including some biggies like California, Florida and Ohio.

AE is currently holding "the first national online presidential primary in U.S. history," open to its 400K or so members.

Online voting began four days ago.

Guess who's winning.

Who else but Bircher Ron Paul, whose few fans are dedicated freepers of polls like this.

As of now, Paul has 919 votes.

The rest of the Top Ten are:

Jon Huntsman, 635

Bernie Sanders, 452

Barack Obama, 346

Mike Bloomberg, 277

Buddy Roemer, 225

Stephen Colbert, 205

Gary Johnson, 160

Jon Stewart, 135

Elizabeth Warren, 108

None of these people, AFAIK, have expressed any interest in being a third-party, Wall Street candidate for President.

But even if they did, and they won the online poll, it wouldn't matter.

Because the AE board of Wall Street types will decide who gets the AE ballot line, no matter what its members say.

Two things stand out about that Top Ten List -- first, the number of votes shows that this well-publicized national effort has so far garnered fewer votes than most state legislative races, and second, is this all about trying to draft billionaire Bloomberg?

My cynical quess is that the AE board will ignore the online voters, and give their ballot line to Romney, who none of their members have voted for yet, but is closest to the "pro-establishment, 'why can’t we just all get along by agreeing to dismantle Social Security'-style centrism" of this bogus Wall Street outfit.

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  •  Tip Jar (11+ / 0-)

    A public option for health insurance is a national priority.

    by devtob on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 07:20:34 PM PST

  •  Wasted effort, as Paul wont run (5+ / 0-)
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    Wee Mama, Cedwyn, Trix, devtob, jj32

    third party (yet?). Paulites are sure annoying, however.

    OTOH, this shows some chutzpah:

    Barack Obama, 346

    "Space Available" is the largest retail chain in the nation.

    by Free Jazz at High Noon on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 07:29:17 PM PST

  •  "Centrist" = Aristocratic Wealth, Everyone Else (2+ / 0-)
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    devtob, supercereal

    working poor, poverty for most seniors, no foreseeable serious action on climate change, indefinite growth in fossil fuel.

    Sounds like we already have 2 centrist parties.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 07:36:01 PM PST

  •  Is it too late to "nominate" someone? (4+ / 0-)
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    Cedwyn, Trix, devtob, side pocket

    Given their low participation rate, is there some way to flummox them by  rallying kossacks to "vote" for Vermin Supreme or somebody like that?

    The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges. ~ Anatole France

    by ActivistGuy on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 07:43:02 PM PST

    •  Vermin Supreme (0+ / 0-)

      has eight votes so far.

      Friends and family, presumably.

      He's tied with Joe LIEberman, Robert Reich, Andrew Napolitano, Hillary Clinton, and Roseanne Barr.

      A public option for health insurance is a national priority.

      by devtob on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 08:25:09 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  They're angling toward Bloomberg... (2+ / 0-)
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    Trix, devtob

    ...and the most prominent Dem they can find to take the VP slot (Bayh?).

    Their Super Pac's bigger than your Super Pac.

    by Minerva on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 07:48:43 PM PST

  •  Pretty silly if you ask me. Money is a joke to (1+ / 0-)
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    devtob

    these people. What type of return on their investment do they possibly think they are going to get by pouring millions into a candidate that CAN'T win!?

    "As we celebrate mediocrity all the boys upstairs want to see how much you'll pay for what you used to get for free"

    by Tim D M on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 08:01:40 PM PST

    •  A 1-billionaire putting $10M (0+ / 0-)

      into a political project is just 1 percent of his (in this case) net worth.

      Essentially pocket change.

      The obvious goal of AE is to defeat Obama, because of Dodd-Frank, and the AE board will pick the candidate most likely to do that.

      It certainly will not be Ron Paul.  

      A public option for health insurance is a national priority.

      by devtob on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 08:38:20 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Here's a thought for them... (1+ / 0-)
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    devtob

    Go Pat Go!
    Go Pat Go!
    Go Pat Go!

    (kind of makes 1996 come rushing back, doesn't it...)

    Their Super Pac's bigger than your Super Pac.

    by Minerva on Mon Feb 06, 2012 at 08:01:57 PM PST

  •  Hillary's on there twice, (2+ / 0-)
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    bkamr, devtob

    so is Bloomberg, as Blumberg.

    Michelle Obama has 3 supporters, as does Rand Paul.

    I'd have to go with Bernie Sanders, with Michelle as VP. As smart as Obama is, you know she has to be smarter.

  •  I think this "American Elect" thing is a scam (2+ / 0-)
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    Karl Rover, devtob

    in order to try to get a "sorta" dem on the ticket in hopes dem leaning voters jump ship in enough swing states in order to siphon enough votes off to get a Romney win in a key state.

  •  "Bogus" or not, it takes votes away (1+ / 0-)
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    devtob

    from somebody - and that somebody is likely to be a Dem candidate. And, while it may not amount to jack, this cycle, look for this nonsense to grow exponentially in reaction to #OWS and the librul socialists. And, yeah, this time out it's about "drafting" Bloomie. 2016 maybe they "draft" the KochBros. The threat may not be serious this year, but this astroturf crap is something to be taken seriously.

    •  It's not going to matter (1+ / 0-)
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      devtob

      Nader and other lefty parties were on the ballot in 2008 and 2004. They did not even come close to changing the outcome of the election.

      •  Nader got well over 2 Million votes (0+ / 0-)

        and well over 2% of the vote count in 2000. Did it cost Al Gore the election? Maybe not. But it didn't help. This Wall Street 3rd party horse$h!t is all about putting yet another boot on the necks of the 99%. This time by attempting to steal their votes or, like Nader, do their best in watering them down. I take that seriously.

        •  2000 is a different story (0+ / 0-)

          There was a strong base of support for Nader that year. No such base exists this year or four years ago or eight years ago, for that matter.

          •  Ah, but there IS interest out there (0+ / 0-)

            in 3rd party politics. The average joe blow would-be voter is sick of this two-party horse$h!t where nothing gets done. Is why they don't bother to vote. And, I can't say that I blame them. Wall Street well aware of that and plays into their hands, beating the drum for "power to the people" politics. The "perfect storm" could be 2016 or 2020, but there's little doubt this Astroturf happy horse$h!t becomes a huge factor in the general election much sooner than later. And, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if sooner becomes 2012 when nobody looking, nobody paying attention. Ron Paul takes the college-age votes away from Obama. Not a bad candidate for "Americans Elect" to send out on that initial run just to get their toe in the water. But whether they do or don't there's little doubt that such an effort happens way sooner than later.

  •  I don't see the point of (1+ / 0-)
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    devtob

    allowing voting for candidates who don't want to participate.

    Ron Paul will win the voting and Buddy Roemer the nomination this way, making the process a double joke.

  •  I wouldn't dismiss this (1+ / 0-)
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    devtob

    I have written a little bit about these guys and the No Labels group as well. I am still trying to ascertain if they are completely separate groups or if one is the election arm of the other.

    This group is putting some bucks into getting onto the ballot. It doesn't matter what is happening now in this preliminary round since from what I have read, and what the diarist has posted, regardless of how people vote, they have a super committee that will determine the final nominees, which has to be someone that they think has the requisite stature and experience.

    Notice Huntsman at the top? I have long posited that the only reason Huntsman was in the primaries to begin with was to initiate the process of getting a little name recognition and that he would emerge later as the candidate of the No Labels Party/Americans Elect if they emerged from the shadows, which they are starting to.

    I've always said that nature hates a vacuum and that with the antipathy or outright disdain and disgust that polls reveal about how Americans feel about the two parties and the entire Congress, that the time was right for a third or even fourth Party to emerge.

    Americans Elect is the rich bi-partisany construct that will allow both parties to ditch once and for all their fringes. The Republicans can finally say "screw off" to the Tea Party (hey! we need more taxes - just on the right people) and the Dems can finally say "screw off"to those annoying lefties with their civil rights BS and whimpers about single payer.

    When election time finally rolls around, imagine the unlimited Super Pac money these guys can flood the airwaves with for their Huntsman/Bayh (as an example) ticket which will castigate both parties as failures and tell America it's time for a "New Beginning" and an end to gridlock.

    Since I agree with this diarist that this is the Wall Street Money Party, If I were their copy writer I would use the theme.

    "It's Brunch in America".

    Anyway, people who are laughing in this thread won't be laughing long when this election season is turned on its ear by these guys.

    And this is where the Democrats pay the price for blurring the lines until they became indistinguishable from their supposed foes. All their new found "moderate" and Third Way and independent friends will go play with the new kid in class leaving them with . . .their alienated Liberal/Progressive former base which they have dissed at every opportunity?

    As a Liberal/Progressive Democrat (yes, that's me, I'll stand still for a few moments of gratis hippy punching) I could see this as a good thing if all the moderate, centrist,Third Way, Blue Dog, DINO types leave to unite with their true soul mates and leave the remnants of the party to people who believe in old hat Democratic fundamentals like Rule of Law, Civil Rights, Social Justice, living wages, Safety Nets, Single Payer, Environmentalism, Public Education and the like. I'm just being honest here. It would save people like me from having to wander around in the disaffected wilderness if we have the footprint and studs of the old party to work with.

    We are going to be living in interesting times.

    “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

    by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Tue Feb 07, 2012 at 03:07:06 AM PST

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