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Much has been written on this site about the epic fail of the Susan G. Komen foundation break up to not break up to break up from Planned Parenthood.  Much has also been written about how we should respond to those that help sponsor Komen and the work that they do but I have an issue that I need some help resolving.  Follow below the fold

One sponsor of Komen is Jersey Mike's which is a sub shop that in my community has also been nice to the schools in the surrounding areas by giving teachers very nice discounts for food and also allowing the use of the shop for fundraisers and such.  My school will be having a fundraiser for our PTO at Jersey Mikes soon.   Our PTO is not a political entity what so ever and are doing really great things to help with moral at our school from parent volunteering to sponsoring lunches for the teachers and  helping to pay for supplies.  With all the attacks we as teachers are getting this help is appreciated.  

My question is should I raise a point about this with them or should I let it be?   Or does anyone have a suggestion that maybe I did not think of?   Do I make thisabout the PTO who has been really trying to help us out or do I make it about an organization that Jersey Mikes supports that has nothing to do with helping out schools?  Or am I blowing this way out or proportion.   I wait your answers below


What should I do in response to our PTO fundraiser at Jersey Mikes?

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  •  Tip Jar (8+ / 0-)

    I can't force you to do anything, I can just make you regret it!

    by restondem on Fri Feb 17, 2012 at 03:47:49 PM PST

  •  It's one thing for each of us to decide for (13+ / 0-)

    ourselves whether we'll support Komen or not, but we probably should not make this decision for others.  I'm sure Jersey Mike's thought it was doing a good thing in supporting Komen the same way they think they're doing a good thing for their community.  Let their judgment prevail for them and yours for you.  The PTO really doesn't need to make a decision here unless they use donated funds to pass on to Komen.
    Finally, thanks for being a teacher and trying to do the right thing to make us a better people.  Keep leading by example.

    •  As long as your fundraiser (0+ / 0-)

      has nothing to do with Komen, I don't really see a problem. i would however have a polite discussion with the owner of the shop, just explaining your uneasiness with Komen and your desire to see breast cancer patients helped in a nonpartisan context.

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

      by anastasia p on Sat Feb 18, 2012 at 07:57:56 AM PST

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  •  It sounds like Jersey Mikes (12+ / 0-)

    has tried to be a good community member and to contribute to non-controversial worthy causes.  

    They should get support to continue that, and sincere thanks for their support of the PTO.  

    However a gentle observation to them that Komen has chosen to create a divisive controversy, would certainly be in order.  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Fri Feb 17, 2012 at 04:09:42 PM PST

  •  Why not just go and talk to the owner or (10+ / 0-)

    manager and ask whether they're planning on continuing to sponsor Komen after this blow up and let them know you think it could hurt their business and reputation.  They might well be as disgusted as you with this situation and not be planning on supporting them more.  Or hearing that their supporting them will displease some of their customers might make them reconsider.

    I can't tell you what to do, but I know I would quite definitely not boycott a company for having supported them in the past or even if they do in the future if they're doing good things for the community.  Few things are black and white, and this is one of those gray areas.

    "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

    by gustynpip on Fri Feb 17, 2012 at 04:11:08 PM PST

  •  How does the restaurant support Komen? (3+ / 0-)
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    A percentage of the receipts, or what?  Have you been in there lately to see if the owner has changed his mind about Komen?

    Are you an officer of the PTO?  

    If it's just a donation jar on the counter, I wouldn't make a deal about it since the owner is so welcoming to teachers and fundraisers.

    •  the pink stuff (1+ / 0-)
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      I think they have the komen swag or subs wrapped in the pink wrappers that you can buy from time to time with the jersey mikes name on it and the money goes to them..they are a corporate sponsor so it might be a straight out donation to them.

      Or fundraiser is simply that mikes donates a certain percentage of proceeds from that evenings sales to the school

      I can't force you to do anything, I can just make you regret it!

      by restondem on Fri Feb 17, 2012 at 04:37:19 PM PST

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  •  Okay (3+ / 0-)
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    1. Jersey Mikes donates money to/supports Komen.
    2. Your PTO is having a fundraiser at Jersey Mikes.
    3. Jersey Mikes has been good to your PTO and your school personel.

    I think the key is the walkback from Komen, and the fact that you have a really good deal/relationship with Jersey Mikes that I wouldn't risk shooting myself in the foot for something Jersey Mikes is not responsible for.

    In the short term, I'd just support the PTO and go along with the fundraiser at Jersey Mikes, and keep monitoring Komen for the Cure to make sure that the organization stays free of wingnut politics.  

    I think the resignation and the walking back of the overreach is something to take into account here, but not to let them off the hook, I'd shift my focus to monitoring Komen's behavior.

    I'd be all in favor of having your PTO ask Jersey Mikes to stop supporting Komen, and divorce itself from Jersey Mikes if they would not, if Komen had doubled down on the recent Komen overreach or had not walked back from where it was in the wake of the public outcry.

    In my opinion, this isn't, or at least it shouldn't be, about Jersey Mikes at all, it's about keeping an eye on Komen. Thinking about your situation, I don't see how it would be good for your PTO and your schools to harm this relationship.

    I think you benefit more from maintaining the status quo with your PTO and Jersey Mikes, and keeping on eye on Komen to make sure they stay with the angels.

    I am from the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party

    by LeftHandedMan on Fri Feb 17, 2012 at 04:16:57 PM PST

  •  Until very recently (7+ / 0-)

    most of us believed that Komen was doing good ( as opposed to doing well).

    do not hold contributions to Komen in the past against Jersey Mike's.

    Otherwise we would all have to walk back those walks we made for Komen in the past...

    As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

    by BPARTR on Fri Feb 17, 2012 at 04:30:02 PM PST

  •  If the PTO is anything like the PTA (9+ / 0-)

    when I was active (and president) one of the hardest things I had to do was be "apolitical".

    No politics at all.  It's in the by-laws.

    So however you feel personally about Komen, Planned Parenthood or how Jersey Mike's feels about Komen and Planned Parenthood, that should have no affect on your fundraiser- especially since you have a history with the store.


    Growing old is inevitable...Growing up is purely optional

    by grannycarol on Fri Feb 17, 2012 at 04:38:27 PM PST

  •  There's a pushback going on (1+ / 0-)
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    I worked hard with my national sorority to get it to pull out of Komen. I heard this week that the far right is organizing a push-back, trying to get even more right-wing action by Komen and still attacking PP.

    I think that it takes a lot of voices through participating groups to make real change happen. Don't be shy.

    Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

    by MrMichaelMT on Fri Feb 17, 2012 at 05:00:07 PM PST

    •  Do you know what more (0+ / 0-)

      they want Komen to do? If they keep pushing, there won't be even a handful of dust left of Komen to do ANYTHING. Surely the foundation has learned its lesson now?

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

      by anastasia p on Sat Feb 18, 2012 at 08:00:10 AM PST

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  •  Komen has put a lot of people in a bad situation (4+ / 0-)
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    Because now not supporting them has become as much a political decision as the alternative. Once Komen brought up Planned Parenthood and abortion it moved into the hot button zone.

    Now Jersey Mike's, through no fault of its own, is in a position where trying to be a do-gooder has turned into a losing proposition. Somebody will be mad at them.

    Although, and this is a way out that's sort of funny, Komen used the absurd excuse of an investigation for not funding PP. Jersey Mike's, or anybody, could stop dealing with Komen by saying it is refraining from supporting them during this controversial time and that they might support them at some time in the future when the dust clears.

  •  You might want to check out your local Komen (2+ / 0-)
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    affiliate and it's likely that Subway Mikes got involved through the affiliate.  The one in NYC seems to be rethinking its relationship with the national.

  •  Relax. Don't give Jersey Mike's a hard time (1+ / 0-)
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    about Komen. Komen is on its way to the ash-heap of history.
    If you get a chance to talk to the owner/management of JM's about Komen, say something if you want.
    Ultimately Komen is going away, support that broader effort, and cut your locals some slack.

  •  franchisee or corporate support? (0+ / 0-)

    Having Komen promo materials and swag pretty much assures that this is not a local program. More likely, it is either part of a mandatory corporate program or a regional operators cooperative effort. Local franchisees usually have a free hand in interacting with the community where the restaurant is located, so supporting your schools is entirely a local decision. If they are being a good citizen in the community, then support them. However, it can't hurt to take the operator aside and let them know how you feel about the Komen situation. In the case where several operators are pooling resources, there may be a good chance of influencing future charity initiatives. Probably less so if it is a corporate effort, but your franchisee might own 20 stores, making their voice more likely to be heard.

  •  This Is the Case... (0+ / 0-)

    ...with many companies.

    My favorite place to buy luggage and gadget cases is eBags and they have also supported the Pink Plague in the past.  

    During this last contretemps, I wrote them and simply pointed out that their sales of this junk might not be as profitable as it has been in the past and as a customer, I was an example of someone who would no longer consider buying that crap.

    I'm not boycotting the company, but pointing out the issue.

    For Mike's, declining the pink sandwich wrapper might be a more impactful way of pointing out the problem.

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