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I know I repeat myself often, but thats because in the face of zombie lies and cliches like Gingrich's BS debate line about Obama keeping our enemies safe...one HAS to throw the punch right back and keep em flying.

Osama Bin Laden - 9/11 mastermind, leader of Al Qaeda, $25 Million bounty on his head, remained fugitive throughout entire Bush administration - dead from bullets to the head & chest inside his comfy compound in nuclear-armed Pakistan.

Muammar Gaddafi - Libyan dictator, nuclear proliferator, mastermind of second worst terror attack on American civilians in the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, made into de facto US ally during Bush administration - regime toppled in US-backed uprising...beaten to death with his own shoes after US Predator drone disables his escape convoy.

Dulmatin - Most Wanted Bombmaker on Earth, built the devices which killed 202 people including Americans at Bali nightclub in 2002, $10 million bounty on his head - killed by Indonesian police aided by US intelligence.


Abu Ayyub Al Masri & Abu Omar al Baghdadi
- Top two Al Qaeda leaders in Iraq, Al-Masri was Zarqawi's replacement, Baghdadi was Zarqawi's superior - killed by US Army Apache gunships in joint US-Iraqi raid in 2010.

Saleh Ali Nabhan - senior Al Qaeda leader in East Africa. Participant in the 1998 Embassy bombings and mastermind of 2002 attacks on Israeli tourists in Mombasa - killed by machine gun fire from Navy SEAL helicopter gunships in Somalia in mission ordered by President Obama in September 2009.

Ilyas Kashmiri, Baitullah Mehsud, Abu Attiyah Allah, Tahir Yuldashev, Abu Hafs al Shahri, Qari Zafar, Shaikh Said al-Masri, Jalolov, Saleh al Somali - All among the senior Al Qaeda & Taliban leaders killed by President Obama's expanded drone strike strategy inside Pakistan.

Pirate hijackers of the Maersk Alabama - attacked US-flagged tanker carrying food aid, kidnapped captain of the ship holding him for days - killed on President Obama's orders by Navy SEAL snipers aboard the destroyer USS Bainbridge

Somali bandit gang - kidnapped American demining activist Jessica Buchanan and her Danish colleague for ransom - killed in the course of successful Navy SEAL rescue operation ordered by, you guessed it, President Obama.

Iran - nuclear proliferator, state sponsor of terror - faces harsh, crippling sanctions in its history as imposed or negotiated by President Obama, uranium enrichment program greatly damaged courtesy of Stuxnet intelligence operation ordered by President Obama, and recently saw one of its most sophisticated missile development bases completely destroyed in mysterious circumstances that seem beyond the capabilities of a few Israeli spies with sticky bombs.

North Korea
- To its South faced with a US-ROK alliance that has never been stronger, and the most aggressive enforcement yet of an Arms Embargo as US navy ships and intelligence assets track & intercept suspected North Korean arms shipments to rogue regimes like Iran, Syria, Burma.

Ratko Mladic - fugitive anti-American Serb general responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, fought NATO forces in the 1990s - finally arrested and extradited to the Hague (along with other Serb fugitives) after diplomatic pressure from the Obama White House.

Bashar al Assad
- state sponsor of terror, most immediate & longstanding enemy of Israel - regime possibly on brink of collapse courtesy of growing protests & open rebellion to his brutal rule & sanctions levied by the world with the Obama White House in the lead.

And on, and on, and on, and on...

Sorry Republicans, but Not. This. Year. This President has done more to kick wholesale ass of our actual dyed-in-the-wool enemies than any President since FDR. And he does it in such precise, carefully orchestrated and decisive fashion as to make Tom Clancy cream in his pants. Not one American soldier died from hostile fire in the Bin Laden raid, the Awlaki operation, the entire Libyan campaign, or any of the missions hunting terrorists or rescuing hostages in Somalia.

We gave you your shot after 9/11...you ended up letting Bin Laden go at Tora Bora and instead bogged us down in a trillion dollar war fighting nameless Iraqi teenagers who had nothing to do with knocking the towers down.

Maybe the day will come that someone has to deal with Iran or Syria with more than just sanctions and diplomacy and covert ops...but if that day comes I'll take the President who buried Gaddafi in the Desert & Bin Laden in the Ocean instead of the party who thinks we still ought to be stuck in Baghdad.

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  •  Amen to that! (8+ / 0-)

    "I'll take the President who buried Gaddafi in the Desert & Bin Laden in the Ocean instead of the party who thinks we still ought to be stuck in Baghdad."

    Me too.

    Get the job done without photo-ops, without American casualties, and with zero to minimal collateral casualties.  War is hell, but when you have to fight, do it right.

    "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

    by G2geek on Wed Feb 22, 2012 at 09:31:10 PM PST

    •  Mr. Cool, Calm and Collected is taking 'em down... (3+ / 0-)
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      one by one.

      Get the job done without photo-ops, without American casualties, and with zero to minimal collateral casualties.  War is hell, but when you have to fight, do it right.
      Republicans just ain't as good at getting the bad guy.

      It's mostly incompetence. But there's another factor at work here. All Republicans have something entrenched in the back of their minds telling them that if they actually eliminate the enemy they can no longer use that enemy to instill fear in the voters.

      That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history. ~ Aldous Huxley

      by markthshark on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 01:17:58 AM PST

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      •  and don't forget the defense contractor... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...profits.

        A small, special-ops focused military that uses more precise mission profiles is murder to a DefCon's bottom line.

        The bear and the rabbit will never agree on how dangerous a dog is.

        by fromer on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 03:58:40 AM PST

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  •  someone ought to write a speculative history story (11+ / 0-)

    ..... about September 2001 with Gore in the White House.

    It was well known in the geek universe that Gore was very close to the intelligence community and took their words seriously.  The proof of this being Gore's support for NSA proposals to restrict civilian cryptography, something I was involved with at the time (keyword "cypherpunks").  Yes, we were all fighting Gore over that issue when he was VP, and ultimately we won (thus giving the world secure transactions over the internet, among other things).  

    If Gore had been properly sworn in, he would have taken the CIA seriously when they pulled the fire alarm in the summer of 2001, saying that AQ was planning a major attack in the US, involving aircraft.   At minimum he would have quietly increased airport security.   He might very well have gotten the field reports of the FBI Special Agent who investigated the AQs who were taking flying lessons on jumbo jet simulators but were visibly uninterested in learning how to land 'em.  

    The result would have been that the 9/11 hijackers would all have been caught before or while they were attempting to board their airplanes.  The incriminating material they left behind, such as in their cars in the parking garages, would have been discovered quickly.  They would all have been put up on charges of conspiracy to commit air piracy.  And they would all have been sentenced to 20 years to life in prison.

    The news headlines on 12 September 2001 would have been "Hijacking plot foiled: terrorist attack alleged!"  And as the scope of the plot was disclosed to the public, the overall response would have largely been one of incredulity.  The extreme right and extreme left would both claim that the whole thing was cooked up to give Gore more power in office.  The vast majority would simply be glad that a bunch of dangerous badguys had been caught.  

    Gore would have demanded the turn-over of Bin Laden as a co-conspirator or mastermind.  But when the Taliban refused, he'd have used covert ops to get him one way or the other, alive or dead.  If it was necessary to go to war agains the Taliban, it would have been over & done within a year or at most two, ending up with dead Taliban and dead Al Qaeda, and a rapid exit after the job was done.

    AQ would never have grown its "brand" as it did starting with the Iraq war.  There would not have been an Iraq war.

    The US economy would not have been sunk into a trillion-dollar hole in the desert.

    Since the 9/11 attacks would have been prevented, the economic recession that followed would also not have occurred.  In all probability the Crash of 2008 would never have happened, though a lesser recession might have.

    And all the repressive measures passed under Bush, including the torture policy, would never have seen the light of day.

    That's the difference that a few thousand votes made in 2001.  Think about it next time someone tells you they aren't motivated to vote for Obama this year.

    "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

    by G2geek on Wed Feb 22, 2012 at 09:47:35 PM PST

    •  I'm not fully with you on this--- (1+ / 0-)
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      Let's not make Gore out to be a deity here---who knows what a relative neophyte who had been in office 7 or 8 months would have done?  Also this isn't all on the president...FBI and CIA hardly spoke to each other--communication was definitely in a shambles or non-existent...  remember Al Q had a plan cooked up in 1995 as well (after the comparatively small attack on the WTC in 1993)....this stuff woudn't have gone away.

      There's no way of knowing how things would have progressed under a different president.  But I think you're attributing too much to what Gore would have been able to  do.

      •  no deity at all. (6+ / 0-)

        Don't forget my opening paragraph, saying clearly that Gore wound up on the wrong side of a significant policy issue due to his closeness to the intel community.

        The rivalry between FBI and CIA would not have gotten in the way at the level where the President is looking at reports and giving orders to the agencies.  

        Look, if I was President, and CIA came to me with foreign intel about a planned domestic attack, I would have put FBI on alert for any domestic indications of the plot.  That would have brought in the reports of the AQs taking flight training, and that would have been sufficient to put those people under surveillance and ratchet up airline security.

        All it takes is for Gore to have taken the CIA briefing seriously, and the rest follows like deterministic Newtonian billiard-balls.  

        And we know Bush did not take the CIA briefing seriously, and the CIA guys were running around doing everything short of smooshing a whipped-cream pie in his face, to try to get his attention.  

        Anyone else in office in the post-1980 world, where jihadist groups were recognized as an axis of threat: Bush Senior (former CIA director), Clinton, Gore, hell even Reagan, would have taken the CIA briefing seriously and gotten the ball rolling.  

        Bush Jr. was uniquely incompetent in office, as his response to Katrina showed, as Tora Bora showed, etc. and so on all the way down the line.  So it's not a stretch to say that his failure to take the CIA seriously was another instance of incompetence, and one that would not have occurred under a different administration.  

        "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

        by G2geek on Wed Feb 22, 2012 at 11:09:33 PM PST

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      •  I do think 9/11 would have been averted... (2+ / 0-)
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        When Clinton-Gore were faced with elevated threats to the homeland (as in the run-up to the Millenium) they chaired national security meetings focused on dealing with that threat. Its where department heads got a little kick in the ass and cooperated a bit better...so maybe the CIA mentions to the FBI that two of the eventual Flight 77 Pentagon hijackers are in-country...and the FBI's investigation into Moussaoui moves up the chain of command so the Director has something to show to the President.  Before you know it, Mohammed Atta and the others decide the mission's been compromised and call off the plot and 'go back to the drawing board' in Afghanistan.

        And efforts to track and kill Bin Laden would have been taken more seriously than Bush did. And notably, under Clinton the Navy SEALs received considerable experience in hunting High Value targets from missions hunting Serb war crimes suspects in the Balkans.

        But...I do still think that something would have gotten through, though doubtful on the scale of 9/11. Thus forcing us to deal with Al Qaeda out in the open as part of the national debate, and not covert ops as might have been Gore's preference.

        The Iraq war simply wouldn't have happened on Gore's watch. Not for that length, not for those reasons, not under those parameters, and NOT while Osama Bin Laden breathed free air.

  •  Well done (2+ / 0-)

    Of course the Republicans don't let the facts get in the way of the storyline they want to keep telling.  But have you noticed lately that the story line has shifted somewhat from talking about what Obama has done during his first term, to all the terrible things he might do in his second?

  •  Like internet tough guys ... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... the Republican candidates were puffing out their chests in the Arizona debate about what they'd do to Iran, by golly, if they got a chance to nuke'em!

    I can see a really nice question in a General Election debate in which the moderator quotes Romney before asking him the question:

    MODERATOR:  "Governor Romney, you have said, and I quote, 'the current President has not taken the threat from Islamic terrorists seriously,' but in fact, during his watch [run through the list in the diary] ...."

    Republicans, like Zombies, just want to get a head.

    by Tortmaster on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 03:14:41 AM PST

  •  Not taking issue with the main point of the diary (0+ / 0-)

    (that President Obama has been far more responsible regarding national security than his critics give him any credit for), but some of the facts listed seem a bit iffy.

    I don't believe Gaddafi suffered death by shoe. He was beaten and stabbed before his death, but it was a bullet that did the job.

    More important than that minor quibble, I have nowhere seen evidence presented that our President ordered the Stuxnet operation. I'm fairly sure from what I've read that the consensus is that it was an Israeli operation.

    As for Assad, first, he's not out of power yet. Second, if and when he is, it probably won't be because of President Obama's actions up to this point. It will probably be through the bravery and sacrifice of some of the Syrian people. In my opinion that is as it should be.

    The above notwithstanding, I feel much safer with our President than I would if any of the GOP clown brigade were at the helm.

    My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.
    --Carl Schurz, remarks in the Senate, February 29, 1872

    by leftist vegetarian patriot on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 08:47:10 AM PST

    •  A little poetic license on Gaddafi ;) (1+ / 0-)
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      Its clear from the video he got the full Viggo the Carpathian treatment.  Beaten, stabbed, at one point he is indeed beaten with his own shoes, and of course finally getting the coup de grace bullet in his forehead.

      In short, he rivals Mussolini as having died about the most horrifying death any dictator has ever died to.

      On Syria...yeah Assad isn't out yet, but because this President has done what he could to nurture the Arab Spring movement the Baathist regime is in its weakest, most isolated state ever.

      If we had done what most of the GOP establishment and neocons wanted to do...namely side with Mubarak as he crushed the Tahrir camp with camel-riding goons and secret police...Assad's grip on power would be iron tight and Gaddafi would still be sitting pretty in Tripoli. And Iran would have been able to point to Cairo as rationale for their own brutal crackdowns on democracy protesters.

      Tunisia sparked Egypt. Egypt sparked Libya. And Libya sparked Syria.

      Obviously Obama ain't been perfect on the Arab Spring in all places (cough Bahrain cough)

      And on Stuxnet I think the consensus is that it was likely a joint US-Israeli intelligence operation that Obama embraced and accelerated. Even if it was just the Israelis, we at least had/have something similar in the works.

      Truthfully I find that recent missile base explosion far more interesting. The extent of the destruction, and reluctance of Iran to even admit something went wrong suggests to me it was a covert airstrike by stealth aircraft. Though most revealing is a recent Iranian complaint to the UN which described that singular incident as a "military strike" as opposed to the other likely Israeli-led bombings which they called either 'espionage' 'criminal acts' or 'terrorism.'

      If I had to guess...Obama decided that the base, which was conducting a long-range missile test that day, represented an imminent threat and launched a covert strike with either TLAMs or F-22 strike fighters...and the Iranians were so caught off guard they decided to cover it up for fear of admiting weaknesses in their much vaunted aerial defense network.

      •  I do not oppose all foreign intervention (0+ / 0-)

        all the time. That would be Ron Paul's foreign policy, which I consider simplistic and misguided (rather like his positions on everything else). I do oppose military action (both overt and covert) most of the time. Our President has used our military more as a scalpel than as a club and I cannot but admire the skill he has employed in so doing, especially when compared to his predecessors. He is still somewhat more hawkish than I (and I believe I am probably more hawkish than many on this site).

        Further, I am not sure how much credit he can be given for the Arab Spring. Staying out of it as much as possible (we were pulled into Libya by our allies calling in their sizable markers) was probably one of his best decisions yet. Given that there was and is political pressure to wade in, resisting that pressure was commendable, but I don't believe this negative decision should count as a positive achievement.

        I do not wish us to go to war with Iran or support any other nation in such a war, except and unless Iran attacks first. I also do not believe that it is possible in the long run to prevent them from getting nuclear weapons if they want them, or anything but self-defeating to use military means to try to do so. If anything, it will only spur them to rationally emulate North Korea and the other nuclear powers in gaining a status of "too dangerous to mess with". Iran is no more likely, in my estimation, to use nukes than any other nation. Contrary to the common political rhetoric, the people running the show there are not madmen (Ahkmadinejad is a flake, but he isn't in charge).

        My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.
        --Carl Schurz, remarks in the Senate, February 29, 1872

        by leftist vegetarian patriot on Thu Feb 23, 2012 at 10:22:43 AM PST

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