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I am tired of letting Republicans and Tea Party supporters co-opt the term "conservative". Republicans are not conservatives... they are radical fundamentalists and we should be referring to them as such.

From the Dictionary: conservative

con·serv·a·tive [kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv]
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
2. cautiously moderate or purposefully low: a conservative estimate.
3. traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.
4. ( often initial capital letter ) of or pertaining to the Conservative party.
5. ( initial capital letter ) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of Conservative Jews or Conservative Judaism.
By their own definition... they are fundamentalists.
From Conservapedia
A conservative is someone who adheres to principles of personal responsibility, moral values, and limited government, agreeing with George Washington's Farewell Address that "religion and morality are indispensable supports" to political prosperity.
From the Dictionary: fundamentalism
1: often capitalized : a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching b : the beliefs of this movement c : adherence to such beliefs

2: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles

From the Dictionary: radical
d: advocating extreme measures to retain or restore a political state of affairs
The current platform of the Republican Party and the prescribed changes presented by the Tea Party cannot be construed as conservative... it is purely radical fundamentalism.

Can we please stop calling them conservatives and start referring to them by their proper label?

UPDATE: I want to make it clear that I am not generalizing individuals who call themselves Republican. I am framing the Republican Party... which continues a platform of radical fundamentalism. The Republican mainstream ideology is radical fundamentalism, currently. It is not just the leadership. Pretty much every issue poll and candidacy poll in recent memory paints a picture of majority support for radical fundamentalism within the party.

I realize that you can't put everyone in that box... Andrew Sullivan and David Frum are a couple of "conservative" pundits that come to mind that I wouldn't necessarily paint as radical fundamentalists. I am sure that there are many people who call themselves Republican that share their moderate views about conservatism in general.

Originally posted to stonedoubt on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 05:59 AM PST.

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Comment Preferences

  •  When conservatives, at a least the cynics (4+ / 0-)

    among them decided to base their political future on the "politics of resentment" and the southern strategy, they were warned that the monster might not be easily contained.

    See "Nixonland".

    Where are we, now that we need us most?

    by Frank Knarf on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 06:31:22 AM PST

  •  Agreed. I prefer "regressive". (0+ / 0-)

    I'd rather have a buntle afrota-me than a frottle a bunta-me.

    by David54 on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 06:33:10 AM PST

  •  Can I keep calling them asshats? (2+ / 0-)
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    stonedoubt, jan4insight

    Lo que separa la civilizacion de la anarquia son solo siete comidas.

    by psilocynic on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 06:51:52 AM PST

  •  I call them evil and radical all the (2+ / 0-)
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    stonedoubt, jan4insight

    time.

    The are an existential and material threat to me, my family, the USA and the world, all for money.

    Hate them, hate what they stand for.

    The radical Republican party is the party of oppression, fear, loathing and above all more money and power for the people who robbed us.

    by a2nite on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 07:05:14 AM PST

  •  I will use this on yahoo answers (1+ / 0-)
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    jan4insight

    in responding to the trolls trying to storm the barricades.

  •  Just out of curiousity (0+ / 0-)

    Was George Washington's Farewell Address in the Constitution? No? So it's just like all those letters written by the founders that reaffirm the separation of church and state? Food for thought.

    Many Americans fear that universal health care would destroy their way of life. In that it would get them the anti-psychotic meds they need, I agree.

    by ThothXXI on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 10:02:07 AM PST

  •  We already have a conservative party. (1+ / 0-)
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    Mr Green Jeans

    There's only one conservative party in American politics. That would be the Democratic party.

  •  The Far Right is the same in every country (6+ / 0-)

    What the Evangelical Right in this country just can't grasp is that they are the American version of the Taliban or ISIS.

    They see themselves as the antithesis of the Taliban or ISIS but all three groups have the goal of governing their countries according to a strict religious code. They pray to different versions of God but the concept is the same.

  •  Republicans (2+ / 0-)
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    andrewboston, silverfoxcruiser

    the correct label for then would be either Taliban USA, or ISIS US. but then Rethuglicans does well.

  •  I've been saying this for years.... (4+ / 0-)

    except that I prefer to call them "paranoid reactionaries."  Conservatives lost control over the G.O.P. years ago.  Mainstream Democrats are conservative, as gx240 already said.  

    "All politicians lie. The question is, whose lies can you deal with?" - L.Z. Granderson

    by LADave65 on Sat Apr 04, 2015 at 12:03:12 PM PDT

    •  Exactly! (0+ / 0-)

      As you say, the genuine Conservatives were booted out of the GOP years ago, when the leadership went (according to the definitions I remember from Political Science class) "Radical Reactionary." There may be a few old-style conservatives left among the rank & file who haven't been paying attention & therefore don't realize they're an anomaly. Unfortunately, they still vote Republican in most elections--maybe just out of nostalgia. The rest became either Independents or Democrats.

  •  Another way to think of them is (4+ / 0-)

    The Koch brothers useful idiots.

    Useful Idiots was a Stalinist term. PaPa Koch worked for Joe Stalin from 1928 to his death in 1953 then continued working for the Soviet Union building oil refineries until they did not renew his contract in 1956 when he became a founder of the John Birch Society and a staunch anti communist after working for them 28 years.

    Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. John Leland

    by J Edward on Sat Apr 04, 2015 at 01:08:18 PM PDT

  •  Minions of the 1% (2+ / 0-)
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    bringing their torches and pitchforks to your town.

    Some days it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints!

    by SpotTheCat on Sat Apr 04, 2015 at 01:17:25 PM PDT

  •  divide and conquer (1+ / 0-)
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    silverfoxcruiser

    is their prefered modis operendi keep everhyon looking at everyone else as they pick pocket you and find some new group to blame for your loss

  •  Too many in Congress are paid to support radica... (1+ / 0-)
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    silverfoxcruiser

    Too many in Congress are paid to support radical Christian fundamentalism. They when will the moderate Muslims wil stand up against their radicals. I wonder when US moderates will stand up against our religious radicals.

  •  If the Founding Fathers were conservatives, the... (3+ / 0-)

    If the Founding Fathers were conservatives, then we would have remained a Crown colony.

  •  No, you can't put them all in the same box but ... (2+ / 0-)
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    opalwolf, silverfoxcruiser

    No, you can't put them all in the same box but true conservatives are allowing the extremists to lord over them. The fundamentalist are taking us all down with nutty religious beliefs that most people of faith take exception to.

  •  Radical Fundamentalism = Taliban (2+ / 0-)
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    andrewboston, silverfoxcruiser

    All religious fanatics share a common belief that if you don't believe what they believe, you do not have any rights, including ultimately the right to life.

  •  And They will tell you how to think and live. (1+ / 0-)
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    silverfoxcruiser

    And if you do not do as they say off to jail and the death house. That is where the GOP will take you poor people. And if you are not poor they and their wars will make you poor.

  •  They are remaining silent (1+ / 0-)
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    silverfoxcruiser

    Those like Frum or Sullivan used to be considered the far right but like you explained have migrated to the extreme right and are now radical fundamentalists.  The tea partiers and the christian conservatives have run out all the moderates and forced anyone who wants to run to co-opt their radical fundamentalist agenda to win the primary.  These positions may win them the primary but they are then labeled and any attempt to move even to moderate republican positions give their opponents an advantage and a win.  The republican party's platform now doesn't squared with where the majority of Americans are.  After the last presidential election they blamed it on Romney and not their values.  They got the results of polling after the election and it became obvious that they and their values were the problem.  Instead of moving to where the majority is they have decided to double down of their beliefs as they are trying to lie to the electorate by stating they are for women's rights and equality for all but they cannot help themselves by voting against equal pay for women, repeal of the ACA, raising of the minimum wage, immigration reform, LGBT rights, and anti-religious freedom.  

    They republican party, the conservative movement wants a return to the times of white rule where men called all the shots.  Women and minorities were second class citizens.  The problem is they are being left behind every election they refuse to accept women and minorities as equals.  Conservatives believe that they nearly won the last election and if more Christians would have voted they would have won.   They feel that their anti-voting agenda has worked to lower turnout for democrats and some have openly stated this as the objective to passing their new voting laws.  The SCOTUS helped them by stripping parts of the voting rights act to make their discrimination possible and in places like Texas local municipalities could make any seat in the elected government an "At Large" seat which would effectively marginalized that elected member of city council and nullify their seat.  This has been done to keep white majorities over Latino representatives even though they were the majority.  The republican party can keep saying they are not racists and bigots but the actions say differently.

     Another conservative argument is that the religious freedom laws were intended to protect the christian religion which is under assault by liberals and the liberal media.   They state there are people actively trying to attack Christianity but they can never give an example.  they immediately start their rants about a Jewish Rabbi being forced to sing Ave Maria at a christian wedding or a pizza shop being forced to make pizzas for a gay marriage.  Both of these example are ridiculous and would never happen but they tell these extreme examples to stoke fear in Christians as if they are under attack.  The truth is conservatives want to be able to freely discriminate towards whomever they want and not be able to be held accountable in court for it.  They state it is religious beliefs that are driving it and somehow these businesses have managed to serve hundreds and even thousands of adulterers, divorced men and women, and other various sins the bible state they should not accept.  So its really not offensive to them all the time or at all.  It is selective discrimination and selection offensiveness.  It is not real it is just gives them the ability to decide on a daily basis who they will or will not serve.  They want to ignore the public accommodation laws held up by the Supreme Court.  Every one of those businesses should be boycotted and do not deserve our patronage.   I would also recommend people read the other Daily Kos columns
    "You cannot be a Republican and a Christian" and "An open letter to Dr. Laura Schlesinger".  These are excellent pieces pointing out and asking conservatives and christian to evaluate who they are.  

  •  Reactionary (1+ / 0-)
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    silverfoxcruiser

    Personally I like radical reactionary. But radical fundamentalist will also do. The two terms are just different faces of the same attitude.

  •  I am very thankful (2+ / 0-)
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    silverfoxcruiser, BeninSC

    That this was reposted. I missed it in 2012. The essay itself and the ensuing comments have been a really enlightening, and mostly civil, discussion. Way to go, Daily Kos members. I feel gratefully enlightened. I am not kidding.

  •  Should be FOP (Fundamentalist Opposition Party)... (0+ / 0-)

    Should be FOP (Fundamentalist Opposition Party), not GOP because they are "opposed" to almost everything and there is nothing "grand" about them anymore.

  •  Thank you (0+ / 0-)

    I was beginning to think I was alone.  Although I've come to think of the Tea Party as a faction of the Republican Party who leans towards being more Libertarian than Conservative and they are dragging the rest of the party to the right or running them out of office.  David Koch ran for VP in 1980 on a severe Libertarian platform.  You can find a copy of the newspaper article from that time on Senator Bernie Sanders website.  I have a copy and I can check off what the Republicans have been doing off this list and since they are following the orders of the Koch's by and large, they run as Conservative Republicans as a front, but are really radical Libertarians, who when run as Libertarians get few votes, but at least those candidates are honest about how they are and what they stand for but the Republicans today stand for nothing, campaign based on nothing of value and idiots vote for them because they are anti gay, anti abortion, pro guns, etc. and ask nothing else of them, then complain because their lives are so miserable.

  •  Thank you. (1+ / 0-)
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    Obi don

    Haven't they always been known as the "Radical Republicans"?

  •  CONSERVATIVES WITHOUT CONSCIENCE (0+ / 0-)

    is the book by John W. Dean (yes, that John Dean of the Watergate scandal), and we all need to read it and understand the distinction he draws by labeling the Righteous Authoritarians as the true target.

  •  The only things they conserve... (0+ / 0-)

    are the worst parts of U.S. history.

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    by JohnnieZ on Sun Apr 05, 2015 at 06:29:28 AM PDT

  •  Anarchists is even more accurate. (0+ / 0-)
    •  I'd agree with the "Anarchist" label except... (0+ / 0-)

      They're quick to say "The government has no right to tell me what to do!"--which sounds like pure anarchy.
      However, they're fine with telling everyone else what to do (e.g. what to believe, how to dress, who to marry, what version of history to teach in school, etc.) and they expect the government to enforce these rules on their behalf--and of course to defend their private property at all costs.

  •  some thoughts (0+ / 0-)

    Anybody with a "Buybull" in one hand, and a flag in the other (ie. rethugs) are fundamentalists...the 'mental' part of this word being highly questionable....

  •  Radical Fundamentalists (0+ / 0-)

    Vote them all out!

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