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There is an email going around asking us to all pray at the same time each day for our endangered country. My friend sends them to me, mainly because she knows I'll send a rebuttal. Her addition was the comment

I would ask that we change “the Bible” to be “the ten commandments”
My answer, and the email, after we genuflect at the kneel-o-kos.

Here is the message of the email

>      PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE IN YOUR LIST.  IF WE ARE NOT CONCERNED ENOUGH NOW TO DO THIS, THEN DO NOT COMPLAIN AFTER THE ELECTION!!  
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> Subject: Fw: One Minute each night
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> This is such a seemingly simple thing but it could have a tremendous impact on our country.
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> ONE MINUTE EACH NIGHT
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> This is the scariest election we as Christians have ever faced, and from the looks of the polls, the Christians aren't voting Christian values. We all need to be on our knees.
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> Do you believe we can take God at His word? Call upon His name, then stand back and watch His wonders unfold. This scripture gives us, as Christians, ownership of this land and the ability to call upon God to heal it. I challenge you to do that. We have never been more desperate than now for God to heal our land.
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> This election is the scariest I remember in my lifetime. 2 Chronicles 7:14. 'If my people, which are called by my name shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.'
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> During WWII, there was an advisor to Churchill, who organized a group of people who dropped what they were doing every night at a prescribed hour for one minute, to collectively pray for the safety of England , its people and peace. This had an amazing effect, as bombing stopped.
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> There is now a group of people organizing the same thing here in America .
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> The United States of America , and our citizens, need prayer more than ever!!! If you would like to participate, each evening at 9:00 P.M. Eastern Time (8 PM Central, 7 PM Mountain, 6 PM Pacific), stop whatever you're doing, and spend one minute praying for the safety of the United States, our troops, our citizens, for peace in the world, the upcoming election, and that the Ten Commandments and what they mean will be followed more here and everywhere.
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> If you know anyone who would like to participate, please pass this along. Someone said if people really understood the full extent of the power we have available through prayer, we might be speechless. Our prayers are the most powerful asset we have. Thank you.
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> Please pass this on to anyone who you think will want to join us.
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> God Bless You!!!
 
So I said:
No, dear, changes are not allowed. They are only interested in prayer from the "right" kind of Bible. The person who originated this email isn't looking out for the freedom of all Americans to live according to their own religion, they want the "freedom" to make everyone follow the religion they think is the "right" one. Is it OK if I say one of the prayers to Buddah? or this Wiccan prayer? I know this one from the Koran will be well received! No? Which one of the thousands of different Christian churches in the US is the correct one to get the prayer from? Did you know that many people don't consider Catholics to be Christians at all? Quite an eye-opener when I lived in the south. What about the many citizens of our country that are agnostic or atheist? Should they just be ignored cause, you know, only christians count? These people are the same ones that will scream and shout about Sharia laws, yet they are the ones trying to enforce religion through the government. Same thing from where I am sitting.
As to the claim that the US is a Christian nation, here are some word from founder Thomas Jefferson:

I am for freedom of religion, & against all maneuvres to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another. --Letter to Elbridge Gerry (1799)

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and State. --Letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT. (1 January 1802)

Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law. --letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, from Monticello, February 10, 1814.

 I do agree that this is a scary time. My prayer is that every one of these misogynist religious ideologues is voted out of office; that their religion is kept out of our government and away from our reproductive systems.

My friend, who is not Christian, is very well meaning, but she hates politics. That is why I encourage her to send me these things. I am happy to rebut them for her, as well as anyone else she sent it to.
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  •  One of my friends used to sent me those... (4+ / 0-)
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    4mygirls, hnichols, Smoh, Tennessee Dave

    chain text messages like "Angels are crying from heaven, pray tonight for your greatest wish, if you forward this to 48 people in the next 6 seconds, your wish will come true, otherwise, your true love will be hit by bus"...I might be paraphrasing, but I think you get the point.

    It used to irritate me, but she is quite religious and on the gulible/naive side, so I never really wanted to burst her bubble with what kind of nonsense this was.

    I think at 9pm every night, I'm going to anti-prayer, maybe cancel out some of the crazie's prayers.  I'm still not clear on how they think praying at the same time is going to make any type of difference on anything, but whatever.

  •  how funny and how sad (2+ / 0-)
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    4mygirls, Tennessee Dave

    Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

    by Smoh on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 04:13:11 PM PST

  •  Back during Desert Storm times, I met the Lydia (2+ / 0-)
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    4mygirls, Tennessee Dave

    Society. They were sort of similar to these people although we're talking back before the internet. The ones I met were specifically praying for individual politicians to have wisdom and make good decisions. They were not praying any political agenda, simply upholding, recognizing and positively praying for their good and the good of us all. I really respected them for that, as it seemed to me that is where religion should intersect with politics when they do.
        They also had a bookmark which happened to have the entire text of Matthew 17:21 on it, because they really believed in it and dedication to prayer and fasting for the public good was their thing. But I had just read Matthew in my Bible and it had relegated that bit to a footnote. That was my first inkling that new translations were not just translated word for word, but might have been changed...
         So anyway, that whole discussion is only tangentially relevant. That was just a snippet of my learning process. I seem to land somewhere on the line: too secular for my Christian acquaintances, and rather too Christian for most of the rest of my family and friends...but I try to walk the line explaining each faction to the other.

    But you said your friend

    is not Christian, is very well meaning, but she hates politics.
    So why does she even get these things and send them on?
    •  I think it's the feel good, prayer is OK thinking. (2+ / 0-)

      I believe she didn't even notice the glaring-"do not complain after the election" bit. She has not been forwarding any more political junk lately. This one slipped by, as I told her in a later message, this one was less religious and more political under the surface.

      Oh for crying out loud!

      by 4mygirls on Mon Feb 27, 2012 at 05:31:35 PM PST

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