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'I have received a letter written on the Führer's orders requesting that the Jewish question be now, once and for all, coordinated and solved one way or another… I should not want to leave any doubt, gentlemen, as to the aim of today's meeting. We have not come together merely to talk again, but to make decisions, and I implore competent agencies to take all measures for the elimination of the Jew from the German economy, and to submit them to me.'
            Hermann Goering.

As described in Brad DeLong's marvelous blog, Goering's statement followed the infamous Kristallnacht. Also, shortly after the Kristallnacht Martin Sasse, bishop of the Thuringian Evangelical Church and leading member of the German Christians movement, published a compendium of Martin Luther's writings ; Sasse "applauded the burning of the synagogues" and the coincidence of the day, writing in the introduction, "On 10 November 1938, on Luther's birthday, the synagogues are burning in Germany." The German people, he urged, ought to heed these words "of the greatest anti-Semite of his time, the warner of his people against the Jews." Diarmaid MacCulloch argued that Luther's 1543 pamphlet On the Jews and Their Lies was a "blueprint" for the Kristallnacht.

        Interestingly and regretably to the world's shame one of the few public demonstrations of opposition to Kristallnacht was led by, William Cooper, an Aboriginal Australian whose people also had experienced racial based extermination attempts by a Germanic people, who along with a delegation of the Australian Aboriginal League marched through Melbourne to the German Consulate to deliver a petition which condemned the “cruel persecution of the Jewish people by the Nazi government of Germany.” German officials refused to take the document.

    However, lest we forget and thereby minimize the true evil of right wing hate, in addition to the Jewish Holocaust,  Gypsies  were often killed on sight, especially by the Einsatzgruppen [mobile killing units] on the Eastern Front. The total number of victims has been variously estimated at between 220,000 to 1,500,000; even the lowest number would make the Porajmos (Gypsy genocide)  one of the largest mass murders in history. Homosexuals were hunted down like vermin and over 12 million Poles simply were slaughtered to make room for the planned expansion of the German race.

Hate knows no bounds, once begun it becomes an all-consuming bonfire eventually consuming the haters along with the hated.

Recently in another Daily Kos Diary I commented on VDARE's activities at CPAC and the failure of any political leader to condem it.

Perhaps  we have degenerated from "It could not happen here" to "Could it happen here?" to "Is it happening here?"

We should keep in mind, "The last refuge of scoundrels is not patriotism but the claim that no one could see it coming" applies to more that economists explaining away their gross failings when their predictions prove terribly wrong.


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"Why would anyone be morally bound or wish to be morally bound to a civil society that does not share the goal that it’s citizens deserve a fair distribution of wealth, income and power? If the civil society is not dedicated to that end what else could it possibly be dedicated to? What is freedom, to those without wealth, income or power?"
Trenz Pruca.
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  •  I think comparing anything happening (4+ / 0-)

    in America today to the organized genocide perpetrated by the Nazis is just stupid. Not to mention offensive.

    •  doc2 (0+ / 0-)

      I am sorry your knownedgr of history is so limited. Nevertheless, I was not comparing, but warning  that hate always corrodes everyone and everything involved. I take it from your comment that you view right-wing intolerence as a minor irritant that will go away if left alone. I do not.

      •  You are the one who typed the words (1+ / 0-)
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        Is it happening here?
        No. It is not happening here. And if you had even a clue as to what "it" actually was, you would never say something like this, unless it were really true that we have another Holocaust unfolding. And if that were true, as you assert, it would be appropriate to launch a violent defensive struggle against the modern-day Nazis.

        I will continue to fight the right-wing in this country. But I won't be a blowhard and compare them to the Nazis, and then label anyone who doesn't agree with such an extreme position as viewing the right as "a minor irritant".  By comparing assholes like Rick Santorum to mass murderers like Hitler, you make a mockery of those who died under the Nazis (like my entire maternal line).

        I guess you don't have the ability to articulate intelligent criticisms of today's Republican Party without bringing up the Nazis and pleas of "lest we forget". That is pathetic.

        •  Doc (0+ / 0-)

          When you decide to climb out from under the bridge, I find it strange that you find it unnecessary to condemn the rampant semitism and hate that inhabits the right-wing today.

          If hate does not lead to oppression why oppose it at all? Does it have to be demonstrated to lead directly to unleashing storm troopers to to take seriously that it may get out of control.

          If it is impossible to lead to the horrors of the last century because we are different here then perhaps we should all chill when known anti-semites and actual professed Fascists appear and speak at the same event as candidates for the presidency of the US and none of them reject those ideas.

          If the slaughter of Poles, Jews, Gypsies and homosexuals during the last century were unique and could not happen again, then we must ask what it is supposed to tell us other that that we must be vigilant.

          Does it really take storm troopers prowling the streets before one feels something is wrong? Do we excuse the Latinos beaten and shot or gays humiliated by thanking God it is not as bad as it could be?

          No one knows where things will end but we do know where they begin and we know how they begin.

          Remember no one believed it could happen in Germany until it was too late.

  •  quite so. (0+ / 0-)

    I agree with doc2, because this is one of the most explicit times in which genocide was state sponsored, unlike so many events that are compared to the Holocaust.
    But I do appreciate your thoughts on this issue of "never again."

    Life is a shipwreck. But we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats. — Voltaire

    by agrenadier on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 10:22:42 AM PDT

  •  While I normally have a very strong knee-jerk (0+ / 0-)

    reaction to people comparing other than the most heinous state-sponsored genocide on a mass manufacturing basis to the Shoah, five words give me pause today that I never thought would ever be used together in a sentence.

    "Rick Santorum, viable Presidential candidate"

    For all  the glee at voting for him in Michigan, however comical we find him to be, it truly makes me quake in fear that a radical theocrat would be even this close to the nomination by a major party.

    The people I thought were the crazy minority muttering in the corner are far more numerous than we thought, and they are being emboldened. Should they succeed, I fear I will not recognize my country, nor shall I trust it.

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    by dhonig on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 10:37:55 AM PDT

    •  The Saudi regime is not the 3rd Reich. (2+ / 0-)
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      doc2, angry marmot

      (ironic twist just to piss off Santorum by comparing his presidency to a Muslim theocracy).

      The only point of bringing up the Holocaust in relation to a socially conservative right-wing in the U.S. is to get people to yell and scream thereby increasing the visibility of the diary.

      I mean--sorry--but ultrasounds are not Mengelian experiments, overzealous cops at Occupy rallies are not the SS, and the elephant is not a goddamn swastika.

      Please, everybody, lose the hyperbolic insanity.

    •  Dhonig (0+ / 0-)

      Thank you for your comment.

      A simple perusal of People For the American Way Right-wing Watch and the Southern Poverty Law Center Hate Map and I promise you that you will be stunned about how extensive and connected to political power these individuals and groups are.

  •  This number must be wrong (0+ / 0-)
    over 12 million Poles simply were slaughtered to make room for the planned expansion of the German race.
    I think 12 millions is the total number of non-combatans the Nazi-Germans are estimated to have killed (of which half were Jews).

    Maybe you meant to write that 2 millions ethnic poles were killed by Germans, which is the number Wikipedia gives. Overwhelmingly civilians. The article gives Polish sources, so maybe that number is somewhat  high.

    When the Kristallnacht happened Stalin had already killed 110 000 ethnic Poles in the Sovlet Union in one of the so-called "national operations", and the Soviet Union would kill about 100 000 more civilian Poles in 1939 after the invasion of Poland, when the Nazi killings also started.

    "Walking into someone's diary is like walking into someone's home. You are a guest. Act accordingly." Kos

    by Mariken on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 10:52:20 AM PDT

  •  Last Comment (0+ / 0-)

    Although I suspect no one will note this last comment of mine, but to me the most tragic thing in the post was that following Kristallnacht, of all the world leaders at the time, only an aboriginal Australian objected. It was Kristallnacht for God's sake. What was the rest of the world thinking? It could't happen here? We did not see it coming?

    •  I've been studying this (0+ / 0-)

      as background to some novels I'm writing.  And one thing that really sticks out, is that the world's attitude to Jews before the Holocaust was very different than our knee-jerk response today.  Basically, nobody except the English, Americans, and Dutch really cared much.  The attitudes of most Europeans weren't as virulent as the whipped-up hatred of the Nazis, but when you came down to it, they didn't have much interest in going out of their way to protect "yech, Jews".  Even FDR resented pressure to have to DO something about it.  The world had been suffering from the Depression for a decade.  Unemployment was still massive, and starvation a real problem even in Britain, which was doing well compared to most other places.  Nobody had jobs or money to spare for penniless refugees, and nobody wanted to be saddled with responsibilities they couldn't afford.  Especially for Jews.  You have to read a lot of things written at the time by non-Nazis to get a feel for just how pervasive the prejudice was.  Today we all read Leon Uris novels and see Exodus as kids and learn about the heroic bad-assed Israeli Commandos.  But in 1938, Jews were seen by Europeans as cowardly, greedy, and dishonest; the only positive Jewish role models were in the Old Testament.

      Right now I'm writing about the Evian Conference in July of 1938, which attempted to find an international solution to the problem of six million stateless refugees being dumped out of Germany.  Out of thirty-two participating nations, only one, the Dominican Republic, was willing to receive a substantial number of immigrants, and that was because the Dominican dictator, Trujillo, wanted to increase the White population of his country to stave off Black immigration from Haiti.  Few of the refugee Jews accepted his offer, quite possibly because his sanity and the offered sanctuary looked every bit as shaky as Hitler's.

      If anything, I think the history of the Holocaust should be seen as a lesson to us all about the consequences of being blinded by prejudice, of whoever the "outsider" is today; and as you state, of allowing ourselves to believe in the harmlessness of hate because of our confidence in the protections of polite society.  Europe of 1938 trusted in the protections of polite society, and again and again Hitler took advantage of that trust and that willful blindness to steal a march or a territory in the confidence that nobody would be prepared to withstand his bad manners.  It was only when his enemies got over expecting him to follow the "rules" that they started to win.  While it's important to be generous and allow for misunderstandings, it is also extremely important to recognize sociopaths for what they are and stand up to them before they can carry through the worst of their intentions.

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