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Sometimes you have to throw humor at a subject in order to see it in the right light.

So it goes with Rob Reid's SOPA presentation on TED.

You see,

Identifying actual losses to the economy is almost impossible to do unless we use copyright math...
The movie folks tell us that our economy loses over 370,000 jobs to content theft which is quite a lot when you consider that back in 1998 the bureau of labor statistics indicated that the motion picture and video industries were employing 270,000 people, other data has the music industry at about 45,000 people, so the job losses that came with the internet and all that content theft has left us with negative employment in the content industries.

This is one of the many mind-blowing statistics that copyright mathematicians have to deal with everyday.

The rest of the presentation is just as funny and insightful. I highly recommend it.

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  •  Tip Jar (4+ / 0-)

    "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." - Originally said by someone who can do neither.

    by bondibox on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 08:09:18 AM PDT

  •  Bad math (0+ / 0-)

    I've always disagreed with the math that they use to determine losses from copyright violations, but I think this post is misrepresenting the jobs claims by the industry.  When they say they're losing 370,000, you need to add that number to the existing jobs and that's how many jobs that they're claiming would exist but for copyright violations.    

    I don't agree with their numbers, but it's good to correctly state their argument before shooting it down instead of misstating it just so you can mock them.

  •  the net destroyed the music business (2+ / 0-)
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    bondibox, quill

    in the late 90s the chain was broken. There are generations that don't think about buying music. The argument can easily be made that the music business itself started the process by being a swamp of lawyers who had no interest in music for the previous two decades but the job and career losses are real. There used to be jobs for low / mid / high end recording engineers. Publicists. Record store employees. Road crew. Those jobs are still there but the amount of people employed is levels of magnitude lower.

    It did lead to a time, today, where it's a good time to actually be an artist. There's a lot less money but the artists keep a lot more of it. Times change but ... choke sob ... won't someone think of the lawyers ?!? ... sob ...

    If you didn't like the news today, go out and make some of your own.

    by jgnyc on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 09:18:58 AM PDT

    •  What hurt the music business (1+ / 0-)
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      was chain radio station ownership and drug law enforcement.

      Musicians in the 1960s bombed out of their minds on LSD and pot created.

      Independent radio station owners in the 1960s could and did take chances on new music.

      Apple is worth $500 bilion in large part because of music buying.

      •  Apple is worth that much because of device buying (0+ / 0-)

        Apple makes their money on the whole supply chain. They make iPhones, iPads. Don't have the numbers but my guess is the iPhone generates some serious cash flow for Apple. Unclear if iTunes compares.

        If you didn't like the news today, go out and make some of your own.

        by jgnyc on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 01:18:34 PM PDT

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    •  I bought lots of music then because (0+ / 0-)

      the record clubs were selling top-notch opera CDs at good prices.

    •  Bands tour like crazy nowadays (0+ / 0-)

      In the 1960s, the Beatles couldn't be bothered touring after 1964.

      •  technology changes everything (0+ / 0-)

        Bands tour like crazy nowadays but to much smaller audiences and a much, much smaller piece of the zeitgeist. Not that that's a bad thing. Between midi and protools you don't need to be able to perform live to make a record (see: The Cranberry's first record. They couldn't play at all and the record sounded really good)

        And sound put the movie theater pit bands out of work and there's been very, very little day job work for violinists since.

        If you didn't like the news today, go out and make some of your own.

        by jgnyc on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 01:17:04 PM PDT

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    •  Record store business has been swallowed (0+ / 0-)

      up by Amazon and Apple.

      •  the chain stores were already gone by iTunes (0+ / 0-)

        there's still small vinyl stores around. iTunes was a classic example of the lawyers at the top of the game in the 90s missing the boat. The majors could have created iTunes in 1999 when they finally noticed Napster. They tried to erect a sea wall and got swamped by the future. Apple would have still been in the game but wouldn't be most of the game like it is now.

        If you didn't like the news today, go out and make some of your own.

        by jgnyc on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 01:14:12 PM PDT

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    •  Having three songs on a twenty track album (1+ / 0-)
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      at CD prices broke the music business.

      I won't buy at the prices now, I got burned too often in the 1990s by paying $15 for a CD that turned out to only have a few good songs - the ones that had been played on the radio.

      Most of the music I buy now are either collections of Greatest Hits, $5 Amazon mp3 specials, or used, not because I don't want to support music artists but because what I'd get isn't worth what I'd have to pay!

      And I don't even get to listen to the radio singles anymore because the overplaying finally wore out my last nerve just as I went to college and had a bit of entertainment money in my budget. I wouldn't have bought a lot of what I've bought new in the past 6 years if it wasn't for the music companies themselves starting to put the music videos on Youtube, and that includes the Greatest Hits CDs.

      Prayers and best wishes to those in Japan.

      by Cassandra Waites on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 12:19:29 PM PDT

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