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Rep. Paul Ryan introducing his not new, not bipartisan plan. (Jose Luis Magaua/Reuters)
The big sell job House Republicans are trying to do on their budget continues, with a special focus on their Medicare "reform." The new sell job seems to amount to, "Now with more Ron Wyden!" with the word "bipartisan" included in every statement.
Republicans enter the debate armed with new polling from a conservative firm that surveyed 50 battleground House districts and shared the keys to winning with the House leadership.

First, they should label their effort “bipartisan”—no longer a stretch given that Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) is supporting the latest Ryan Medicare plan. About 46 percent of voters, the poll found, supported a plan to “fix Medicare,” as long as it provides choices and preserves the program.

Those key words have been echoed repeatedly by Republicans defending the plan in the past week.

The only problem (both for the Washington Post reporter here and for the House Republicans) is that Wyden isn't supporting the current Ryan plan. He's stubbornly not backing away from the "white paper" he developed with Ryan, but this isn't that plan and he doesn't support it.

But a single disgruntled Democrat, still smarting from having many of his ideas ignored in the final health reform bill, does not make a bipartisan plan for Medicare. And slowly starving the program of funding, passing more and more of the costs onto seniors, isn't by any stretch of the imagination "saving" Medicare.

There's nothing new in the House Republicans' political strategy, and there's very little new in Ryan's plan for Medicare.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 11:18 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (22+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 11:18:37 AM PDT

  •  Dems better be ready to fight back against this... (8+ / 0-)

    As GOP seem to have this all plotted out and think they only lost last time because they lost the frame war - not on the actual ideas.  

    I think they plan on this being the August silly season stuff.  

    Dems should be pushing back like crazy.  But damn politifact give the GOP a huge talking point here with the "lie of the year" garbage where Paul Ryan blasted out an email to SuperPAC supporters to stuff the politifact voting box to vote "end medicare as we know it" the lie of the year.  

    •  Yes Republicans are that Cynical (0+ / 0-)

      The only things they care about are related to spinning regressive, unpopular policies and legislation. They will do it over and over and over until they figure out the right combination to win the spin on Medicare "reform". They will not give up. And if Democrats don't commit to a unified fight against the campaign of their lying opponents then the Republicans will eventually succeed.

      The current problem is that Democrats are not united in their opposition to Republican cynicism. D's keep playing each legislative confrontation as if they are playing with honest opposition; and D.'s look weak and gullible.

  •  It is a bit like making art from cow dung (4+ / 0-)

    It is difficult to shape as it is runny and even when they pile it high the whole thing still smells like what it is...crap.

    Roman Catholic by birth---thoroughly confused by life.

    by alasmoses on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 11:32:51 AM PDT

  •  Where vampire capitalism? There vampire capitalism (3+ / 0-)

    slutty voter for a "dangerous president"; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare."

    by annieli on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 01:33:48 PM PDT

  •  Politifact's lie of the year, 2012 edition (4+ / 0-)
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    JML9999, antirove, ceebee7, Timothy J

    Given how Politi-Hack distorted what Democrats said about the Ryan Plan in 2011, what GOPers are saying now is false. Ron Wyden only supports the Ryan plan w/ respect to Medicare and even that has qualifiers in it. Wyden does not support the Ryan budget — just as it pertains to Medicare and Medicare only. No doubt Politifact will not parse the claim of "bipartisanship" as harshly as they did the End Medicare as we know it meme.

  •   Hmm A movie (3+ / 0-)
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    ontheleftcoast, annieli, bythesea

    Script written by a Makeup Artist
    Directed by a Choreographer
    Cinematography by a Caterer  

    Response: If you "got it" you wouldn't be a republican

    by JML9999 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 01:36:17 PM PDT

  •  They never change what they do. (3+ / 0-)
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    JML9999, OleHippieChick, ceebee7

    They just change the way they talk about it.

    For 30 years, that's all it's ever been for the GOP.

    Fight until we win. Then we can begin arguing about the details. - Kwickkick (RIP) 2009

    by RickMassimo on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 01:37:13 PM PDT

  •  all dems have to do is, call it "Coupon Care"... (9+ / 0-)

    and watch that plummet to 12%

    About 46 percent of voters, the poll found, supported a plan to “fix Medicare,” as long as it provides choices and preserves the program
    .

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

    by tuma on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 01:40:05 PM PDT

  •  Regrouping? Should be: Run from Ryan idiocy n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    OleHippieChick, ceebee7, bythesea

    *Austerity is the opposite of Prosperity*

    by josmndsn on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 01:43:27 PM PDT

  •  R reform always = deform. (3+ / 0-)
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    annieli, Philip Woods, Timothy J

    But with Dem rubes like Wyden........who needs Eddie Munster?

    Please sign the White House petition to Flush Rush from AFN (Armed Forces Network).

    by OleHippieChick on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 01:46:29 PM PDT

    •  In Eddie Munster's defense, he was smart, he knew (2+ / 0-)
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      when someone (say, some monstrous relative) was trying to pull a fast one on him, and fully understood when there was about to be some sort of monstrous activity, often anticipating it and seeking the most opportune vantage point.  And even in school he stood out, with the support of very, very loving parents.  Diligent, smart, industrious, good follow-through, a ready smile, creative thinker, great social skills--always ready to partner and team with whomever showed initiative or lead the way himself...and consider that he had no festering problems with corporeal or non-corporeal bullies (at least not more than 1/2 an episode) even if he had festering relatives, and had the approval of his parents for whatever 'homework' he was working on, and would humbly accept the help and guidance of a helping hand when prudent to do so.

      When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

      by antirove on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 02:01:48 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Dems need to run an "Iiiit's Baaaaack!" commercial (5+ / 0-)
    •  You can't get 'the Ryan' out of that budget no (0+ / 0-)

      matter how that GOP repackages and buffs it up.  The stench lingers and high impact threat to the financial and health security of American families and seniors is still there.  The Ryan plan to indenture and beggar most Americans to the wealthiest 1% is still the top priority of this very concerned, and serious enough to kill, GOP House leadership.  Your non-stop participation in Government Austerity is the only way to keep the wealthy (Job Job Job Creators) on the path to all the rewards, hopes, dreams and spare change Americans can still offer.

      Look--see, these GOP Anti-Big Government Coupons for rising Poverty, Declining Health & Pre-Mature Death Sentences are really good for the massive majority of us, since they help reduce evil, hiddeous government spending...although we're not really going to allow the government to get out of debt anytime soon, and in fact intend to drive up the deficits far higher making the Defense industry barrons even wealthier.  So, yes, these coupons happen to feature long-term deficit bloat for the 99% of us, but you shouldn't be scared by that and to make up for it the GOP is unselfishly providing massive tax relief to the wealthiest 1% of us, and now we even have 1 less flip-flopping bi-partisan supporter (ok, so we only had 1 before).  

      The Trillions in Trickle Down Deficits and Debt will be shared fairly by most Americans unless falling in the top income brackets, which we GOP continue to call, with great sincerity, awe and respect, "Great Americans, Over-Achievers and Our Job Creators" and they will feel so very privileged to honor your Poverty & Death coupons for 50% of face value, declining annually, and will do their best to accept all the interest payments due on the national deficit & debt, which will be funded by the real hard working working class tax payers, who may still have jobs of some sort. And, wait for it, they will have more national loans with even more interest due.  It's like PayDay Loans for everyone and everyone (but the Job Creators) will be saddled with a mortgage sized share of the national deficit!  Greed is really good for job creators and Debt is what's good and coming to you for the rest of you tax payers.

      When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

      by antirove on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 02:22:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Also need to make Wyden run away from this. (1+ / 0-)
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      greengemini
  •  I look at Paul Ryan and what I see... (2+ / 0-)
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    OleHippieChick, ceebee7

    ...are all the propaganda ministers of the great murdering dictators of the 20th Century, who first realized that if you tell a lie often and widely enough, and keep changing the subject from one lie to another, you can bamboozle almost anybody.

    "The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity." --W. B. Yeats

    by Pragmatus on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 01:46:48 PM PDT

  •  Ryan shows off his Republican instincts, ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... by elbowing the woman out of the picture

  •  Wyden needs to make a major statement (8+ / 0-)

    that he does not support the "new Republican budget" as it's being trumpeted.

    Seems to be a new offensive by the right on several issues the last few days... which tells me nothing more than that there has been a massive new influx of money and a few more framing instructions from corporate America and its thousands of lobbyists and the entire right wing propaganda machine...  your corporate dollars in action...  Express purpose: Continue major occupancy of the public dialogue bandwidth -- try to increase discredit of Trayvon, push rightwing issues, focus attention OFF the Republican War on Women, improving economy, etc.

    I expect this model to be the flavor of the rest-of-the year.

    Dems need to re-group and energize.  We've lost the momentum that OWS and its progeny engendered.

    Kick apart the structures - Seth

    by ceebee7 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 01:48:58 PM PDT

  •  What can be done to get the media to take (2+ / 0-)
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    annieli, ceebee7

    notice of this kind of malarky and report on it? It's so very frustrating to me that network news readers don't just read the news straight from Daily Kos.

    Eliminate tax breaks that stimulate the offshoring of jobs.

    by RJDixon74135 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 01:49:08 PM PDT

  •  So Wyden's just (3+ / 0-)
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    Timothy J, Philip Woods, bdop4

    another hapless Dem getting punked by the Repub masters of bait and switch. If Wyden has any character he'll get his face on tv and start bitching.

    Anyone taking bets?

    •  Air Ball of the Year Nominee - Ron Wyden (1+ / 0-)
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      TRPChicago

      As a former constituent who thought Senator Wyden had a working brain, I am astounded that he let himself be used by these right wing zealots in the first place. He certainly didn't need to be seen in the same area code with any of them.

      After watching Obama get slimed by Boehner and company every time he tried to out-compromise himself, how could Wyden not know better?

      If he doesn't get out there and renounce the latest Republican effort to impoverish America, he should be fitted for a large dunce cap.

  •  Marketing is not the problem... (0+ / 0-)

    I know we're all supposed to be hypnotized by the ability of Frank Luntz and his ilk to magically manipulate language, but ultimately Luntz is just another high-priced consultant telling people what they want to hear.  (And frankly, G.W. Bush won twice not because of slick language but because, in this order, (1) he got a lot of Latinos to vote for him and (2) the Ds nominated poor candidates.)  Happily, the Rs buy into this lie as well, as they see problems not with the substance of their policies but with the language used to describe them.  Yup, that's the problem.  Keep paying the consultants guys, they will gladly keep taking your money.

    You can call the Ryan plan whatever you want.  When grandma's blood pressure pills and hip replacement are no longer covered and instead she gets a stack of coupons in the mail, it won't matter whether you say Medicare was "fixed," "saved," "improved" or "killed."  Medicare is understood as a form of health insurance, and "insurance" that doesn't pay in the case of loss is not insurance, regardless whether it's "bipartisan" or "free market" or "new and improved."

  •  Ryan Plan will privatize medicare (1+ / 0-)
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    "end medicare as we know it" is too long and vague.  "Privatize" worked well to keep their paws off social security, and it's an accurate description here too.  

    And we all know how much Luntz hates the word "privatize"

  •  It's all a matter of audience! (0+ / 0-)

    The goal is to provide the gullible ones an alternative they can believe in. They need an excuse to vote against their own  interest! No matter what we say the wont beleive us, after all we a the Devil's Spawn(Democrats).

    Disabled Viet Vet ret. My snark is worse than my bite

    by eddieb061345 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 02:45:17 PM PDT

  •  It"s not a "problem" (0+ / 0-)

    because they aren't interested in the truth, all they're looking for is political cover so Rush and his lemmings can sell it to low information voters who then line up to post their shit on every internet site on the planet.

    Money doesn't talk it swears.

    by Coss on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 02:53:40 PM PDT

  •  Republicans can't hide their lies anymore (0+ / 0-)

    too much water has passed under the bridge and the voting public knows full well where ryan and his cohorts stand. they have lost the election already due to their own stupidity in the ways of successful politics

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