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Following lots and lots of terrible publicity around the wages, working conditions and hours faced by Chinese workers manufacturing its iPhones and iPads, Apple asked the Fair Labor Association, an organization widely described as independent although it is funded by the corporations it oversees, to look into working conditions in the factories of its Chinese contractors. The FLA has now looked into Foxconn, the largest and most (in)famous Apple contractor, and:

Foxconn - which makes Apple devices from the iPhone to the iPad - will hire tens of thousands of new workers, clamp down on illegal overtime, improve safety protocols and upgrade worker housing and other amenities. [...]

Foxconn said it would reduce working hours to 49 hours per week, including overtime, while keeping total compensation for workers at its current level. The FLA audit had found that during peak production times, workers in the three factories put in more than 60 hours per week on average.

To compensate for the reduced hours, Foxconn will hire tens of thousands of additional workers. It also said it would build more housing and canteens to accommodate that influx.

Foxconn's changes will also affect other brands with products manufactured by the contractor, such as Dell, Hewlett-Packard and Sony. It will also have an effect on competing contract manufacturers. Consumers, of course, can expect to pay slightly higher prices, although labor costs are a small fraction of the price of the devices, and if you're going to complain that you're paying a little more because Chinese workers are only working 49 instead of 60 hours per week, I don't want to hear from you anyway.

Continuing oversight will be crucial, as it would be altogether typical for the improvements for workers to be rolled back once the spotlight was off Apple's manufacturing process.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 02:00 PM PDT.

Also republished by Progressive Hippie and Daily Kos.

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  •  51% of the iPad's cost (7+ / 0-)

    is profit margins. http://www.appleinsider.com/...

    Only about 2 percent are Chinese labor
    http://grist.org/...

    Foxconn/Apple could increase wages by twentyfold without increasing the price by a penny and still make a profit selling iPads.

    "It is, it seems, politically impossible to organize expenditure on the scale necessary to prove my case -- except in war conditions."--JM Keynes, 1940

    by randomfacts on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 02:13:15 PM PDT

    •  Which makes their entire claim of needing to build (4+ / 0-)

      the device overseas a load of horse apples. So Apple finally agrees to pay a bit more than slave wages but refuses to create American manufacturing jobs. Wow, I'm gonna rush out and get me an iPhony right now.

      "What profit a man, if he gain the world, but has to pay taxes on it?" Paul 8:36

      From the Gospel of St. Ron Paul in the Teachings and Misunderstandings of the Words of Adam Smith

      by ontheleftcoast on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 02:23:04 PM PDT

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      •  No, not really (2+ / 0-)
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        Apple never claimed that wages were the reason why they manufacture their products overseas. It's because of manufacturing flexibility (the ability to reconfigure production lines and workers as changes to products demand) and proximity to factories of components. In addition to the assembly of the devices (which is what FoxConn does for Apple, I believe), there's also production of components like the LCDs, batteries, and silicon. That all happens in Asia, and much of that in China.

        •  And of course none of that could be done here (2+ / 0-)
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          American employees aren't capable of reconfiguring production lines or meeting demands of varying products. And those other components can't be built here either. Well, they would cost more if the toxic waste disposal wasn't "dump it around back" so there's that aspect of it. Sorry, I'm not buying the Apple-washing excuses. This is a cheap PR stunt from Apple. The whole electronics industry needs an overhaul, and Apple has the means to make a real difference. If not them, who? If not now, when? Ooh, but the new iPad has a higher resolution screen! Shiny!

          "What profit a man, if he gain the world, but has to pay taxes on it?" Paul 8:36

          From the Gospel of St. Ron Paul in the Teachings and Misunderstandings of the Words of Adam Smith

          by ontheleftcoast on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 04:05:19 PM PDT

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          •  What? (1+ / 0-)
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            We're not just talking about Apple's production here. We're also talking about the manufacturing for all the component parts. Which Apple buys from other companies, who all have their manufacturing there. So, Samsung, Toshiba, LG, STMicroelectronics, WinTek, all those companies build their things there.  Instead of jus going and ordering parts from a factory a couple miles away, you're shipping stuff from across the globe. Instead of getting parts you need, say screws or whatever, from nearby in a day, you get them in a couple weeks.

            This isn't a simple thing with a single quick solution and one entity that can fix it all. The US gave up manufacturing of these kinds of products a long time ago, for a variety of reasons, and bring it back isn't a quick fix for a single company.

            •  Of course it's not a quick fix (0+ / 0-)

              But there are companies, companies without $100 billion in cash floating around, that are trying to do it. Early this year a company started making LCD monitors in the US. Apple deserves to be called out precisely because they are the one company in the nation that could make a difference on this front. If they gave a damn about American manufacturing they'd do it. Just throwing their hands up and saying "It's hard" means they're part of the problem, not part of the solution.

              "What profit a man, if he gain the world, but has to pay taxes on it?" Paul 8:36

              From the Gospel of St. Ron Paul in the Teachings and Misunderstandings of the Words of Adam Smith

              by ontheleftcoast on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 05:41:34 PM PDT

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              •  Are the LCDs made in the US? (2+ / 0-)
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                Maybe you should check your facts. I know of no US company with the technology or resources to manufacture large, high resolution LCDs and the investment in a factory to produce them is on the order of 2 Billion Dollars plus.

                I'm willing to bet they buy the LCD panels for Asian sources, where the industry is located.

                The US has a small handful of LCD plant manufacturing small displays for Military/Aerospace applications, and even most of those come from Japan.

                BYW, the Clinton Administrations program to revive LCD manufacturing in the US was a mis-guided, dismal failure since US LCD technology trailed Japanese by a decade by the time it started.

                As I noted up-tread, this is really not as simple as it seems.

                 

                What about my Daughter's future?

                by koNko on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 06:02:11 PM PDT

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                •  The reasons why many companies left the US is so (0+ / 0-)

                  they can pollute the environment without being penalized.  Many countries in southeast Asia have no regulations or the regulation are not inforced.  The solvents used in the assembly of electrical components are very damaging to the environment.

            •  So how about (0+ / 0-)

              Shipping those component parts to the US and then making the ipads here?  Sooner or later, the elements have to cross the ocean, either as completed ipads or component parts.  

              Yes, it's not a quick fix, but if one of the arguments is that a company has to wait a couple of weeks for the parts, then the counter-argument is that the completed product is now days, perhaps hours, away from the consumer.

              •  Only about 1/3... (2+ / 0-)
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                ...of Apple's revenues come from the "Americas" -- which, of course includes much more than just the United States. And, in the long term, I would bet that Apple is looking for more growth in emerging markets other than the United States.

                I can't find numbers for this, but I'm pretty sure a substantial (probably a majority?) percentage of Apple employees ARE in the United States - and at high paying jobs (esp. engineering). Their manufacturing is, of course, contracted out so those are not their employees.

                If Apple were to centralize both their engineering and contract manufacturing in the United States, any other country that they sold product in could complain about the lack of local labor content just as vigorously as those who object to Apple contracting with Chinese companies for their manufacturing. Personally, I think the United States gets the good end of this deal by Apple keeping many of the high paid engineering jobs in the United States rather than shipping those jobs overseas and focusing on manufacturing in the United States.

                Although I'm no expert on manufacturing, there are likely good reasons to want to centralize manufacturing for a global product line in one geographical area. Centralization would likely simplify bringing new products up as engineers would not need to communicate and coordinate changes to multiple sites. It would likely increase the consistency of quality control. It would likely reduce supply chain costs. It would likely reduce training costs (one language etc...) and increase efficiency of knowledge transfer.

                As far as shipping the discrete parts to the US instead of the completed products, it seems to be a more difficult logistics problem. If a single shipment of critical chips required for every iPhone gets delayed, you can't build ANY iPhones until the shipment arrives. If a single shipment of completed iPhones gets delayed, the rest of the world/region still gets their iPhones - much less impact.

          •  Apple doesn't have the technology (3+ / 0-)
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            They buy it. Apple is a fabless company. They design and market products, not manufacture them.

            Without strategic technology they get from non-American companies, they would not exist. Of course, they also depend on technology from American companies too (including their own), but, for example, those displays come from Japanese (Sharp) and Korean (LG) companies.

            LCDs were invented in the US but very few were ever produced there, this was technology developed primarily in Japan and then transplanted to Korea, Taiwan and China (low end small LCDs).

            If you really want to understand this, I suggest you read the book "We were burning" by Bob Johnstone, published 13 years ago, but long after the cows left the barn.

            What about my Daughter's future?

            by koNko on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 05:50:50 PM PDT

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            •  But they used to be... (0+ / 0-)

              ...a manufacturing company as well as a design and marketing house.   Like many of their competitors, they made the decision to get out of manufacturing and contract that work out.  

              Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

              by TexasTom on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 10:21:17 PM PDT

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      •  It's not that simple (3+ / 0-)
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        The global supply chain of parts and services is predominantly Asian. American manufacturers started abandoning consumer electronics manufacturing in the 1970's and by the 1980's it was essentially out of the business, long before Chinese labor entered the picture.

        Consequently, the US lacks a manufacturing base that would require hundreds of billions of dollars to reproduce, and perhaps more importantly, the technology and IP.

        People like to complain Chinese have taken American jobs in this sector but that is hardly the case; the manufacturers with the largest share of value contribution to Apple products are primarily Japanese, Korean and Taiwanese (including Foxconn, who employs most of the Chinese workers).

        BTW, just about any phone you would buy is assembled in China, Taiwan, Korea or Japan, but primarily China. As far as I know, the last US factory making such products was Motorola Libertyville, which ceased production around the turn of the century.

        With the notable exception of a few IC producers such as Intel, American don't contribute much manufacturing to these products, but the value of those parts is relatively high and actually accounts for more value-added than Chinese labor.

        Pretty much the last nail in the coffin was the Dot Com Bubble and Crash which induced the few remaining American companies in the business to abandon lower value consumer products for higher margin IT infrastructure products, and when that market crashed, it took many companies and jobs along with it.

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 05:38:00 PM PDT

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        •  Apple did manufacture in the U.S. early on... (0+ / 0-)

          ... but the web is being pretty uncooperative as I try to find out when that stopped. I wonder if the original iMac was made in the U.S.? I remember being a little bit surprised when I bought a lampshade iMac and noted that the shipping company tracking started out in Taiwan. I don't remember my lime-colored original iMac coming from overseas, but that memory's getting kind of old and unreliable.

          Do you have any info on manufacturing locations over time?

          Moderation in most things.

          by billmosby on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 10:29:14 PM PDT

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          •  I can answer most of your questions (1+ / 0-)
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            Apple had factories in Fremont and Sacramento, CA, Fountain, CO, Carrolton, TX, Cork Ireland (still a service center) and Singapore. I'm personally familiar with the Sacramento, Singapore and Cork plants, from about 1990 onward.

            iMac was manufactured in Singapore.

            Carrolton, TX and Cork, Ireland opened in 1980. Carrolton was before my time and manufactured only Apple II as far as I know. I don't know when it closed. Singapore opened in 1981.

            Fremont was started in 1984 to manufacture the first generation Mac and closed in 1992, when Fountain and Sacramento were opened (the latter was actually a replacement/expansion of the Fremont operation).

            Fountain was sold-off to Apple subcontractor SCI (now Flextronics) in 1996 and stopped manufacturing Apple product soon after. I never visited but know this was, at peak, the largest Apple plant.

            Sacramento started in 1992 and closed in 2004, at which time Singapore and Cork ceased production of box build, becoming service centers.

            Only the Cork, Ireland facility remains as a service and and logistics center, and this was the last Apple factory operating as a box build plant ending with the G2 MacPro, although it still does MacPro system integration, and was the integration site for X-san servers until they were discontinued.

            Singapore was the largest pant for notebooks and iMacs, Cork, the most highly integrated in terms of product mix and  business functions, becoming and remaining to this day Apple's international (ex-USA) headquarters.

            Apple's organization and culture were not ideal for manufacturing and I personally think Jobs made the right decision to go fabless, and concentrate on design, which they excel at. In any case, they didn't have much choice as their US manufacturing plants were piled to the rafters with dead inventory and bleeding red ink at the time he returned.

            Manufacturing is a tough way to make a living.

            What about my Daughter's future?

            by koNko on Fri Mar 30, 2012 at 08:05:07 AM PDT

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    •  Indeed (2+ / 0-)
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      The basic issue here is the clout Apple has to force down the prices paid to suppliers and contractors, putting them in a position where they forced to look for whatever means they can to reduce their costs.

      Anyone doubting this can compare the profit margin of Apple suppliers to their own as a majority are public companies (including Foxconn, listed in Hong Kong and parent company Hon Hai Precision Industries, listed in Taiwan).

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 05:09:33 PM PDT

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    •  Wrong, wrong, wrong (2+ / 0-)
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      49% of iPad's cost are COMPONENT costs. That does not leave Apple with a 51% profit margin. You need to account for R&D, design, engineering, fabrication, assembly, quality control, shipping, management, advertising, overhead, taxes and a number of other things to get to true profit.

      Complex problems are seldom answered with simple solutions.

      •  Apple's overall profit margin... (0+ / 0-)

        ...is in the vicinity of 25%, which is extraordinarily high for a consumer electronics company but that's still nowhere near 50%.  Granted, that 25% number is for the company as a whole, which means that the margin on iPads could conceivably be either higher or lower than 25%.

        Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

        by TexasTom on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 10:24:59 PM PDT

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  •  the Fifth Modernization (5+ / 0-)

    slutty voter for a "dangerous president"; Präsidentenelf-maßschach; Warning-Some Snark Above"Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) "Sciant terra viam monstrare."

    by annieli on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 02:20:20 PM PDT

  •  It's still indentured servitude (3+ / 0-)
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    But hey, gotta have that iThingy, right?

    We're resigned to our collective fate because we've been conditioned to believe that this is as good as it gets.

    by Richard Cranium on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 02:20:44 PM PDT

  •  This an ironic title (2+ / 0-)
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    CNN has the story:

    A heavily anticipated report on working conditions at Apple supplier Foxconn documents dozens of major labor-rights violations, including excessive overtime, unpaid wages and salaries that aren't enough to cover basic living expenses.

    More than 60% of the workers at three of Apple supplier Foxconn's factories in China say their wages fall short of their basic needs, according to a report released Thursday by auditors from the Fair Labor Association. The FLA is a watchdog group hired by Apple to audit its overseas suppliers

    This headline sounds like it came from Apple.  The real story is the enourmous violations of labor rights that have occured in the past.  The same article:
    Foxconn, one of Apple's largest suppliers, has drawn harsh criticism from labor activists. A spate of suicides at the company's factories in 2010 garnered media coverage of bleak working conditions, including unsafe facilities and illegal overtime requirements. A story published in January by the New York Times documented the human toll of a Foxconn plant explosion that killed several workers.
    The real key here is that Apple has damn well known all along what has been happening, and is trying to use the report to suggest they had no previous knowledge.  But as CNN notes, this is not new.

    The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

    by fladem on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 02:22:52 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for this, Laura! (0+ / 0-)

    I'm distressed to hear that pay will not be increased.  I'd like to hear of improved accommodations, food service, and a better working environment.

    I've put off ordering an iPad because of this.  Now I feel confident enough to do that.

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 02:58:08 PM PDT

    •  Workers are still being berthed like steerage... (0+ / 0-)

      ...on the Titanic.

      When you have to live on the work site in conditions such as these workers experience, there is no "quality of life" so to speak.  And I say that fully realizing that perhaps this is better living conditions than many of the workers are accustomed to.

      We're resigned to our collective fate because we've been conditioned to believe that this is as good as it gets.

      by Richard Cranium on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 03:55:59 PM PDT

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  •  What they missed out (3+ / 0-)
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    The section I highlight is significant by its absence in the puff pieces that quote the Apple press releases.

    The FLA said Foxconn had agreed to comply with the association's standards on working hours by July 2013, bringing them in line with a legal limit in China of 49 hours per week.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/...

    So Foxconn will take 15 months to comply with Chinese law on how many hours they can demand their workers toil for them.

    Fight poverty, oppression, hunger, ignorance, disease and aggression wherever they occur.

    by Lib Dem FoP on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 04:02:18 PM PDT

  •  Just saw this elsewhere (0+ / 0-)

    What great news.  So getting upset about working conditions of the human beings who actually make our shit can produce measurable progress for--  potentially -- millions of people.  Which, inevitable flaws and all, and all, is a nice last diary to read tonight.

    ...j'ai découvert que tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos dans une chambre.

    by jessical on Thu Mar 29, 2012 at 08:12:37 PM PDT

  •  except this is actually a pay cut... (4+ / 0-)
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    if they're being paid hourly and that hourly wage is not going up.

  •  Apple is trying to do the right thing (1+ / 0-)
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    What about every other manufacturer that uses China's labor force?

    Don't hear much about any other companies complicity.

    F*ck those idiots and the voters they rode in on.

    by roninkai on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 12:45:46 PM PDT

    •  There were similar reports in 2004 and 2006 and (0+ / 0-)

      Apple said they would change working conditions then.  So why should we believe them now?  And is it really going to take 15 months to make these changes?  They could make these changes by Monday if they wanted to, but then you would not be able to have your I-pad!  

      The American consumer is the problem.  If we stopped buying Apple products until the better working condition were verified those changes would happen so quick.  

      When I said we I did not mean me.  I try very hard to buy only products made by US workers who are part of a union! I will never buy an Apple product.

      •  Yeah, of course. (0+ / 0-)
        When I said we I did not mean me.  I try very hard to buy only products made by US workers who are part of a union! I will never buy an Apple product.
        Please tell me what kind of computer you typed that comment on—because odds are pretty good that some, if not all, of the components of the computer weren't made by American union workers.

        You also don't happen to have a cell phone by any chance, do you?

        It always strikes me as funny when people using HPs or Dells or Samsungs get all self-righteous about Apple's labor practices. Do you seriously think that having a different company's name on the computer doesn't mean it's getting its Intel Inside from the same overseas factory as the processor inside my MacBook?

        "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

        by JamesGG on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 07:02:09 PM PDT

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  •  Maybe it took a new CEO (3+ / 0-)
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    for these changes to take place.

    Maybe once the lord and savior (Steve Jobs) is no longer at the company, the company itself is no longer considered godlike.  So a little change may be possible because the blinders are off...

    Barack Obama for President '08

    by v2aggie2 on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 12:46:02 PM PDT

  •  Apple is just the latest iteration of the... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...Robber Baron syndrome.  

    Remember when the iPhone came out that had a problem with its antenna?  Steve Jobs, to save money, secretly told Apple to “tough it out” and tell users to quit whining—it’s only when the issue became a public firestorm that he performed one of his famous video speeches, where he walked back and forth in front of a big screen, saying “Apple will make good on the antenna issue.  We’re not going to abandon our customers, because that’s not what Apple’s about.”

    Bullshit!  Screwing everybody out of every last penny is exactly what Apple is about; they’re just like every other business these days.  Jobs ran neck-and-neck with Bill Gates in the crappy ethics department.  You could fit the compassion of those two into a snail shell and have room left over for a BlackBerry.

    "The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity." --W. B. Yeats

    by Pragmatus on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 01:14:19 PM PDT

  •  Apple and Foxconn have been around this PR track (2+ / 0-)
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    several times before.  Let's wait awhile and monitor results.  DKos' own FP has a piece up about GE's deceptive advertising.  Oil companies have long presented ads touting their sterling environmental efforts.  What is it with words, as if we're neurologically wired to believe?

    Those who forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.

    by CarolinNJ on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 01:15:10 PM PDT

  •  I'll bet you Apple raises its prices just to be (1+ / 0-)
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    spiteful jerks.

    •  People who buy Apple products care more (1+ / 0-)
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      about appearance than function or cost. Apple could raise prices 10% across the board and their target market wouldn't even blink.

      •  Thanks for the diagnosis, Dr. Frist. (0+ / 0-)

        Any other insights you'd like to offer without any actual evidence of the views of the people about whom you're making a vast and sweeping generalization?

        "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

        by JamesGG on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 07:06:50 PM PDT

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  •  I heard a report on NPR (1+ / 0-)
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    which said that many Foxconn employees are going to be hurt by having their overtime reduced to the legal limit of 49 hours. This is very American! Where pay structure is shaped with OT in mind.

    No Jesus, Know Peace

    by plok on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 01:37:39 PM PDT

  •  Steve Jobs had to DIE before this could happen. (1+ / 0-)
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    He simply ignored and dismissed human rights and environmental concerns about Apple production for years. Mere months after his death, there is finally a third-party analysis, and there can be some movement in a better direction.

    The man was not a hero. Not at all. However groovy the gadgets he provided us.

  •  HOW much an hour are these people paid? (0+ / 0-)

    of course, this being the internet and all,

    and money being a base and lowly thing,

    and politics being about "I have a Dream" and noble speeches and NOT delivering the day to day goods,

    how base and lowly of ME to ask how much they're making!

    rmm.

    Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much: such men are dangerous

    by seabos84 on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 01:58:17 PM PDT

  •  Does anyone really NEED these Apple things? n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    I will vote for Obama, and every Democrat I can vote for, in 2012.

    by Food Gas Lodging on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 02:15:36 PM PDT

    •  Apple specifically? No. (0+ / 0-)

      But I couldn't do what my clients have hired me to do without a powerful laptop and a smartphone.

      And there aren't any companies out there who are any better on this stuff than Apple is.

      It's more that non-Dell users don't feel the irrepressible psychological need to get self-righteous about how they would never use a Dell.

      "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

      by JamesGG on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 07:05:39 PM PDT

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  •  OT Ipad 3 looks about the same as iPad 2 to me (1+ / 0-)
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    I've done side by side comparisons at Best Buy and I could only tell a subtle difference in screen quality, even though it's supposed to be twice as sharp. The main difference I noticed was the clunkier feel in the hand and the heat. Rear camera is better, but who ever uses that?

  •  The Foxconn/Apple announcement smells like ... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...Dung.

    That Giant Sucking Sound Is Wall Street Billionaires Drinking Your Blood.

    by olo on Sat Mar 31, 2012 at 04:49:08 PM PDT

  •  And the Past Workers? (1+ / 0-)
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    Are they planning to pay back the abused workers?

    --Sent from my iPad

  •  Offshoring (0+ / 0-)

    Is it a win-win game? Aug. 2003 by Diana Farrell

    Fourteen pages, four footnotes, used by U.S. corporations to justify offshoring everything in the U.S. that wasn't bolted down.

    Brought to by McKinsey Global Institute and Diana Farrell. The same McKinsey Global Institute that hired Chelsea Clinton right out of college for a six figure salary, the same Diana Farrell that now serves as Deputy Director of the U.S. National Economic Council in the Obama administration.

    I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

    by superscalar on Mon Apr 02, 2012 at 01:42:11 PM PDT

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